Question for anons who are from former communist countries, what do your parents and grandparents think of the communist period? Also if their are any boomer uncs on /int/ who saw it themselves, what was it like?
>>225470993That it was shit, and that they are glad ussr fell apart
I would sacrifice everyone on int in a satanic ritual just to be able to watch Azra perform live in Dom Omladine Beograda in 1981
>communist country>still has private property and moneywtf
>>225471106communism is endgoal of marxist leninist socialism chud
Communism is the friends we make along the way.
>>225470993The state didn't wither away the union did. The SFSR still exists they just renamed it to the RSFSR.
>>225470993My grandparents are dead and my parents are almost completely indifferent, there are things they liked and hated about yugoslavia. It wasn't all good but it certainly wasn't all bad either.
I bet they think it was the good old days fucking boomers.
>>225471102Sorry. I don't think I'll be able to attend that ritual.
>>225471060>>225471175did sovietpipo really have triangular milk cartons?
>>225471060Do you enjoy capitalism now
>>225470993my mom and aunt did swim meets in murmansk and my babushka went with. it’s funny because she says «communism you don’t want that» while at the same time replies «oh god yes» when asked if russia was better then
>>225470993>ParentsThink it's shit>Grandparents Think it's the best thing ever
>>225473506I think so too it’s badass as hell
oh yeah and my dad was bragging something mysterious about soviet spetznaz GRU in his time as a tank commander in the Norwegian military when I was a kid… but idk what that was about desu
>>225471899I guess?>>225473444Very much
>>225470993of the communist period?both parents hate it and are anti-russian influence and pro-western influence. Grandmother still thinks that the dissolution of soviet union was a capitalistic psyop and the biggest tragedy for armenia, thought with the leakage of various documents and especially russia's politics in recent years she's far less pro-soviet than before, but still thinks that it was the best country.
>>225473506pretty much this, old people that lived through Stalin's gulag era love USSR, younger generations of Khrushchev and Brezhnev era are not like that even though life then was objectively more comfortable.
>>225474897Nice, Ukraine is my favorite soviet republic btw :^)
>>225471106Comminism has never been tried.
>>225475043Well, good thing the soviet republic doesn't exist anymore
>>225475061Communism was the goal not the system, they were socialist nominally. It's basically an eschatology they're promising a heaven on earth/thousand year kingdom/city of god/etc.
My mother is super nostalgic about the communist period. But that's expected since she was 24 when Yugoslavia dissolved plus she actually got to live the "our passport used to be one of the strongest in the world" meme and she is from a small village that had dirt roads and no running water when she was a kid until the communists took care of all that and now today no authorities give that village any help or attention
>>225471060Ok Banderite.
>>225473506Really? How old are your parents? I think most people who were born before 1975-ish glaze the commie period
>>225475223>it's basically an eschatologyIt's not, you understand it as such because your perception of history is steeped in idealism and, you said it, christian eschatology.It is a logical conclusion to the end of history, derived from analysis of history itself: if all civilisations are class and class is determined on claim over means of production versus no claim/access, then to abolish classes there could be no partial/private claim on the means of production. They should belong to all humans and they should be worked and made to bear fruits for all.
>>225477558My mom is fiercely religious so she's monarchist, my dad is pro free market, freedumbs and other shit etc so he's right wing
>>225471106Communism is a pathway not a destination o algo así
>>225477638I'm an atheist and the difference between communism and socialism is that socialism just puts power in the hands of state to a limited degree communism does the same to an extreme degree but says it's only a temporary solution.
>>225471106>you have money>but its worthless>and at some point you needed to have a food stamp to buy food anyway>and if you wanted a car you had to get on a list and wait a few yearsso why have money
>>225477959You may be an atheist, but you are also unschooled on historical materialism. Step it up and sharpen your dialectics.
>>225470993My grandpa was a military officer so first he fought the nazis and their minions, and later, once Poland got """liberated""", he had to hide and make up a fake surname for himself to not get gulag'd or Katyń'd by soviets. I never met him, but I imagine the answer to your question would be pure unadulterated hatred.The other grandpa joined the AK (Home Army, resistance underground in occupied Poland) as a courier and later, when commies took over the country, as a part-time executioner (I think it got him traumatised a bit, he didn't want to do it but they were shorthanded at the time), and since AK lads were being hunted down and gulag'd by commies, the answer would also be pure unadulterated hatred.My parents speak about PRL with nothing but scorn and always say how much better everything is nowadays. My father was in Solidarity and I heard dozens of anecdotes from him and my mom about standing in lines for hours to buy the most basic utilities or food, or about having to sprint away from drugged up militiamen chasing students to beat the shit out of them with rubber clubs for "illegal public gatherings" or some other bullshit excuse. Awful times. Being ruled by servile traitors, ideological fanatics, and power tripping retards is not fun.tl;dr:>>225471060
Beria would have saved the soviets.
>>225478095Eh same as today under capitalism in name as well.
>>225477523I mean, I like Antonio Banderas as an actor, but I wouldn't call myself "banderite"
>>225478150Not that I don't hate the modern corporate dystopia we're all living in, but no, it's absolutely not the same. Not even close.
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>>225478220Worse then.>>225478190Your country is suffering from your own fascists, your own paramilitaries. Remember that, always. All the people you lost to attacks and to immigration are because your fascists provoked russian engagement in ukraine according to usa/NATO planning, thinking that ukraine would be another vietnam for the russians. It was the usa/NATO paramilitaries who shot people in Maidan squuare, organised the coup, burned tge unionists and prepared to draw russia in. Everybody knows this.
>>225470993My father ran a small town's branch of the secret police in the USSR and had a rape dungeon built under his house with public funds for "interrogations" so he could work from home. When communism fell the townspeople lynched him and units of the secret police covered it up (banning any news from coming out about it and turning the house into a regular police station).
>>225478520Just so you know, I'm not reading all that schizobable
>>225478690how do you feel about ukranian women not being conscripted for civilian or military service? I'm assuming you're a man?
>>225478690Conceding the argument then by calling it crazy? Ok, accepted, bitch. You can't even argue. What is there to argue against anyway? Nothing. I laid down the history for you.And I haven't even mentioned that everybody knows about the baby farming mafia (surrogate mothers).Enjoy getting split by the rest of the european imperialist vultures now that the crusade against russia failed.
>>225478520why do russia's strongest internet warriors never live in russia>>225473506boomers here generally strongly dislike the USSR period but they're also nostalgic for their own youth, I think that's the biggest factor>>225470993communism is seen in a strongly negative light here but I doubt it's so much the actual communism as much as the fact that it was the russians doing it
>>225478741no ethnic westoid cares this much about some slav spat, vanya.
>>225478809Not a russian internet defender. Just reading history. And the war is affecting us too. Not only in inflation. Not against any people in general. Just pro-worker.
>>225478842nigger you came out of nowhere to seethe at a random ukrainian you are OBSESSED.
>>225478828I know in your thick fascist scull nobody could take an opposing view to you unless they are muslim/russian/faggots, but keep in mind,please, that you are a moron who can't even spell historical materialism. You see a picture of Marx and do the sign of the cross.
>>225478716Mixed feelings. Last I've heard, there were approximately 75000 women serving in the defense forces, mostly in support roles. I do think they could be involved more in defense production though, and have the same travel restrictions as men through, but it's kinda pointless at this point.
>>225478741Make a coherent point first, bootlicker
>>225478896*The travel restrictions are pointless
>>225478912Just remember what I said.
>>225478964I won't, because I didn't read it.
>>225478866Irish Marxoid boot licker
>>225470993>what do your parents "it was dogshit but I was young and healthy and not disillusioned so ackshually it was ok" >and grandparentsantisemitic commie haters
>>225478982>>225479037Seethe. You'll all be communists by the end, history itself will make you.
>>225478982And yes you did read it.
good thing victory of communism is always in the future and never in the present
>>225479441I literally read to the point where you used the term "fascist". Wanted to stop after "paramilitary", but gave you the benefit of the doubt. How do you expect to be taken seriously when, you write stuff like that in the first sentence?
>>225479427Highly unlikely
