Who wins?
>>225555825Modern day Somalia can't even control it's own country so Rome wins by default
>>225555825lol
>>225555825>>225555841Somalis might have an IQ of 50 but they have AK´s ad RPG´s. A single Somali on a rooftop could shoot and kill hundreds of roman soldiers.
>>225555905thisi’m as chuddy as the next chud but let’s be real here
>>225555825I think you can send pearls and golden bracelets to Somalia and they'll slaughter eachother for them
>>225555905But will there actually be a Somali on the roof or will he be too busy shooting his neighbor?
>>225555905The Somali army is deserting at speedrunner levels when there are like 70,000 troops surrounding whatever military base they are on, then the Romans have AKs and RPGs too.The Somalis aren't even in control of their own country.
>>225555825kek
>>225555825Sorry Romaboos but this one goes to the bulbheads. Your gladius and posca can't beat AK-47 and black magic.
>>225555825If Somalis can bring down a U.S. military helicopter, they can wipe out a Roman legion
>>225555905Cool, then the Somalis run out of ammo after a few skirmishes, or Rome now has rpgs and aks
>>225556110Even the most dirt poor thirdie nation can produce their own ammo for small arms. They'd be fine.
>>225555992They were coming out of an even bigger civil war with an even poorer country than rn when they btfo Op Gothic Serpent and forced peak US hegemony to withdraw all troops
>>225555825Of course Somalia's going to win. You guys really underestimate the AK-47. War is all about ranged weapons.
>>225555825Romans, ofc
>>225555825Chuds are such retarded creatures
hmm this one a tie maybe
>>225555825>roman empireFucking lmao, how braindead do you have to be to think a preindustrial military force has any sort of chance against modern warfare weaponry? European/white supremacists are a special form of braindead even amongst the already braindead cohort of racists.
Final VerdictShort Term (Weeks): Absolute victory for the Somali military due to overwhelming technological superiority.Medium Term (Months - with cut supplies): Total crisis for Somalia. As guns go click on empty chambers, the sheer scale of the Roman Empire's demographic mass catches up.Long Term (Years): A bloody, grinding stalemate. The Roman Empire could successfully capture and garrison major coastal cities like Mogadishu through sheer, unending waves of manpower, but they would likely fail to conquer the rugged interior, ultimately finding that holding a modern, un-industrialized arid theater without modern infrastructure is a logistical sinkhole from which even Rome would have to withdraw.
>>225555905What's stopping the Romans from sourcing AKs and RPGs too? Somalis don't manufacture those themselves.
>>225555905Why cant peak Roman Empire have AKs and RPGs too? Who is stopping them to get those?
Some of these comments are pretty funny.
>>225556394>>225556492The fuck are people trained in using spears and slowly moving towards an enemy going to do with guns? Jesus christ, this is as retarded as the youtube comments. Do you think people can just magically become proficient with high powered weaponry without extensive training? They'd sooner blow themselves up before ever killing an enemy solider.
>>225556394There isn't any. Sub-Saharan Africans only do small scale skirmishes when they fight each other. The Romans are capturing some of the Somali weapons at some point then the situation completely changes.
>>225556544>then the situation completely changesYeah, entire battalions get killed from friendly fire.
>>225556524Have you ever watched African combat footage bro? They don't even aim the guns, they have genuinely no tactics to speak of. It's available for free on the internet right now.
>>225556394It's retarded chud gamebrain question don't take it seriously. Like when spearman face to face with tank in Civ game. In reality the romans might get shot en masse then one of them stumble upon an AK and then try to get more. After that it might turn to favor whoever have the best chain of command. So maybe rome will win.
>>225556572Mate, Africans have been besting European and American militaries for a while now.
>>225556524They can hire some mercenaries and Somali deserters to train their forces.Romans weren't retards, they had good strategists.
>>225556544Unless they take a POW, Romans would still struggle with knowing how to put bullets in a magazine and load a clip into the rifle. They would also struggle heavily with recoil.
>>225556608>they had good strategistsWith strategies that don't work in the current era. Are you people pretending to be stupid or what? We're talking about entirely different battlefields with entirely different approaches to combat. What are the Romans going to do if they see a drone fly in and wipe out a bunch of soldiers? Worship it? We're talking about people that still believed the gods made fire and shit.
>>225556370The Roman empire has never been good at naval warfareThe only other way into Somalia is through the Ogden - at the very most Romans might be able to send a few troops into the oases of Somaliland, but it's a very barren land both on the coast and the interior
>>225556640If papuan rebel can figure out how M-16 works, anyone can. I would wager you can even train an orangutan to use a gun.
The fastest Somalian warlord to cross the Rubicon immediately resumes war against Somalia after declaring himself Gaayus Juuliyoos Qeysar.
Give a nig an ak-47 and put him on one of those toyota pick-ups and he can kill hundreds of trained roman soldiers alone.
Ancient Roman blacksmithing techniques, folded over CCIↃↃ times.
>>225556606Examples?
>>225556640There are like 3 fucking buttons/levers man what the fuck.
>>225555825reminder that rome was taken down by technologically inferior barbarians. what more if it faces technologically superior barbarians? even if rome is at their peak
Serious question. Does Somalian military exist and can it organize thousands of people to march thousands of kilometres to actually attack something?
>>225556726>teach him how to run a CNC machineNobody mentioned that the Romans get to have an entire technical college dropped on the 7 HillsOr is this now considered common knowledge
>>225555825Somalia if short burst blietzkrig warRome if long-lasting strategic mindgames
>>225555825You guys never watched zulu?
>>225556914Somalia has a military. Currently, they are engaged in rooting out domestic Islamist militant groups that have taken on a cult-like character. There is also the Somaliland military, which governs an independent region.
the somalian threat comes from its diaspora that gets invited into western countries by leftists
>>225555825You'd have to be retarded to think Rome would win. The romans always had problems with counterinsurgency, and the somalis will also have machine guns and automatic rifles. They are just doomed.
>>225555905Romans can get AKs too, you know? They had plenty of gold, so they could trade it with the Russians.
>>225555825SomaliaPeople really underestimate firearms vs swords lol
>>225555825>Modern ak-47 vs spears and bows because crossbows didnt even exist yetThe roman empire is getting raped
>>225555905they would job to a roman troop with a ballista
>>225558138>>225558572Romans are going to get guns as the conflict progresses. 80% of the Somalian army deserted in 2008. They are made of paper.
>>225556492The American Government.
>>225556601Yeah, maybe Rome will win. You never know. The Somalians might have a better chain of command!
>>225555905A single Somali on a rooftop is more likely to shoot his comrades or himself in the head than hit any enemy target
>>225556524And Somalis somehow have been training their whole lifes according to western special forces standards? They are retards with rusty soviet weapons.How could Romans possible figure out guns? The most advanced civilization of its time surely was made up of fucking retards that cant learn from observing.You are 80 IQ and you think you are intelligent. Its fucking tragic.
>>225555905>>225555825Roman slingers would body Somali freaksWhy would you assume the Romans would fight on melee? They were quite adaptable. They could realize that charging on melee is extremely deadly so instead they would rely on the element of surprise and their own ranged weapons.
>>225556524Are you talking about Rome or Somalia?
>>22555616 No they don't
>>225560466What the fuckWhy is that deleted post from 2014
>>225561280He is a time traveler.
somalians start another civil war mid fight.
>>225559776Modern day Somalians have magnitudes more familiarity with the related technology than ancient Romans, including modern education. >The most advanced civilization of its time surely was made up of fucking retards that cant learn from observing.They'd be dead long before becoming remotely familiar with the technology. You are really, really understating the sheer technological and knowledge divide involved here. Modern Somalians with modern weapons would appear closer to gods than humans to your average Roman from the time. >You are 80 IQ and you think you are intelligent. Its fucking tragic.What's tragic is that your racist worldview is so intellectually bankrupt that you've thrown all reason and logical thought out the window in order to justify it. U>>225559964You racists really are shamelessly ignorant about the world.
>>225559848>so instead they would rely on the element of surprise and their own ranged weaponsWhat, and get gunned down from a distance longer than they can see or possibly hope to throw?Christ.
>>225562216you didn't answer the argentinian's question
>>225562276Yes I did, read the comment.
>>225562300oh you're just black
>>225555825Romans would have numerical advantage and would just steal enough modern technology from somalis to grind them down.
It would be like in alien invasion movies in which the aliens have superior tech but are dumb as fuck and the smarter humans outwit them and slaughter them all
>>225562216>Modern day Somalians have magnitudes more familiarity with the related technology than ancient Romans, including modern education.Their familiarity is seeing technology and using it when some else has made it. This does not change that they can't feed themselves and they have no industry not run by other races.
>>225556110Somalis have not run out of ammo for the last 40 years
>>225555825>Modern SomaliaWhich one? There's like five major groups in Somalia fighting each other.
Battle of cannae would seem like the good times compared to what would happen, that time gap is just way too much, not to mention the Somali gov now has Turkish drones, I wonder if just a warlord there would be able to handle it
>>225555825the Romans win if they can use katanas
Can he take out a legion by himself?
>>225563148Maybe if that rusty old rifle doesn't explode in his face first
>>225555825Didnt Rome already lose to their Nubian neighbors several times? Back then?
Rome easily and it's not even close. They'd know their first legion is getting murdered by magic flying rocks and plan accordingly. Eventually they'd negotiate or capture their way into a supply cache. Probably by playing 1 of the 1000 clans against each other like they've done countless times before
>>225555825Bruh a bunch of barbarians took down the Roman empire why do you think Somalians with AKs can’t
>>225555825>european defending identity-izzat
>>225555905Somalia is a very fractured country, even when not counting the parts they don't control. All it takes is one Somali to sell guns to the Romans in exchange for garum or a slave girl.
>>225563434the author specifically mentioned at its peak (Augustus rule)
>>225555905After a certain point, an organized army can become large enough to negate any technological advantage the enemy have. Somalis would only be able to control the red sea, but rome never had much interest in that region to begin with.
