Are Lebanese Ar*bs?They are whiter and more civilized than Spaniards and they are great marchands.
>>225557101They are technically Arabs, but don't call them that since they're xtian. Also they got flooded with infinity moslems so they lost their cunt.
>>225557101>>225557783Fucking imbeciles. Lebs are not Arab, they are Greek and Balkan.>>225557783Muslims in Lebanon are Shias.
they're so civilized that they somehow manage to make peak civil war syria look like a competently ran country >>225557783wrong, christians were always a minority everywhere in MENA
>>225557101>sunni arab arabs>shiawhiny arabs>maronite gay arabs>druzefake arabs
>>225557101They're as arab as arab can beIm not sure where the idea they're any different even comes from. They have no feats, they're as much of a dysfunctional shithole, their diaspora acts the exact same
>>225557101>Are Lebanese Ar*bsIMBECILE! Lebanese do not speak Arabic they are Phoenician!
>>225557101Linguistically and politically, yes. Ethnically, no. They descend from Phoenicians and Canaanites, which are different from the ethnic groups native to the Arabian peninsula.>>225557973>wrong, christians were always a minority everywhere in MENAThis is just wrong. In the 4th to early 7th centuries Christianity became the dominant religion over much of the eastern roman world and even had large communities further east in persia and mesopotamia.
>>225557101Don't French people look the same as Spaniards?
>>225558224Arabs hate the fact their ancestors used to be christians because it means they were infidels at some point, even though honestly it should only reinforce the superiority of Islam in their eyes
>>225558224>This is just wrong. In the 4th to early 7th centuries Christianity became the dominant religion over much of the eastern roman world and even had large communities further east in persia and mesopotamia.Wrong, maybe in the large diverse cities with a lot of trading volume but the vast majority of rurals (who happen to be the vast majority of the MENA population) was never christian>>225558325?Even your own armchair psychology analysis immediately crumbles on itself. What a weird thought process did you just hit the auto fill suggestions without seeing what you were typing or what
>>225558224Why do Americans think ethnicity is a synonym for genetics?
>>225558515This doesn't match the archaeological evidence. Rural Christianization was slower and less uniform than urban yeah, if you look at places like Palestine, but by the 5th and 6th centuries Christianity had spread extensively through the countryside. Northern Syria alone is a strong example of this because archaeologists documented hundreds of late antiquity villages around Antioch representing a fully Christian society.Also a vast majority of Egyptians were Christian when the Muslims came in 641 and Egypt was overwhelmingly rural. For the sake of legitimate argument I agree that saying the whole of MENA instantly becoming Christian under Rome is wrong since it's not that black and white, but saying Christians were ALWAYS urban minorities and the rural population was never Christian is also intellectually dishonest.
>>225558744How else do you inherit your ethnicity, retard?
>>225557101>chad phoenician sailors>never conquered cypruskek what a subhumans
>>225558857>but by the 5th and 6th centuries Christianity had spread extensively through the countryside. Northern Syria alone is a strong example of this because archaeologists documented hundreds of late antiquity villages around Antioch representing a fully Christian society.Byzantine SETTLEMENTS******* ≠ converted local population/christian society>Also a vast majority of Egyptians were Christian when the Muslims came in 641 and Egypt was overwhelmingly rural.Baseless claim, they found them in turmoil with byzantium too to add insult to injuryThis is still just the small 200 year window out of +6000 years by the way. Even if you somehow make a case for that, the rest of the timeline shows that christians were undeniably an urban minority that never managed to establish any concrete influence until missionary expeditions in the 19th century
>>225558879Genetic material is an irrelevant tool when discussing what makes an ethnicity one or not, you dont "inherit" ethnicity you get molded into one and each generation of the same lineage can be a different ethnicity depending on circumstances. Your grandparents were germano-nigerio-franco-mexican or whatever, you'd get laughed at for claiming any of these because you're a New york american or texan or whatever
>>225559010You're shifting the goalposts. You originally said Christians were always a minority everywhere in MENA so that's what I was responding to.Byzantine settlement doesn't mean a colony of ethnic greeks dropped into a pagan countryside. We literally have archaeological evidence. Oxford handbook of early Christian archaeology specifically says hundreds of villages in Antioch's hinterland demonstrate a fully Christian society from the later 4th century onward which constitutes Christianity outside of major cities.Egypt is even less ambiguous here because the Cambridge history of Egypt says outright that the great majority of Egyptians were Christians at the time of Muslim conquest. Lots of other scholarship specifically identifies the copts as teh majority population. 7th century papyrus show indigenous Christian elites administering rural taxation and agriculture after the conquest.The claim that Christians had no concrete influence until the 19th century missionaries is just straight up wrong too. There were powerful Syriac monasteries and schools, Coptic institutions, Armenian kingdoms, Christian Byzantines of Asia Minor, Church of the East networks going into Persia and other parts of Asia, etc. many centuries before modern western missionary activity.Nobody is arguing that every part of MENA was Christian or that every rural population converted. Persia/Arabia/various local populations are obvious exceptions but "Christians were always merely an urban minority everywhere in MENA" is just not supported by historical and archaeological records.
They're civilized because of the relatively large Christian population and they've become less and less so as that population has declinedLebanese Shiites are basically the same genetic stock and they might be the most belligerent and retarded out of all of the Arabs, which is really saying something.
>>225559068Fair given that yes they're not the same, but what I meant was Lebanese people are largely descended from older Levantine populations rather than a full replacement of their native population by Arabian Peninsular peoples. Arabization was a linguistic/cultural/political thing. Whether that makes a Lebbo ethnically arab is a different question because Arab itself is an ethnolinguistic identity. There are plenty of Lebs who identify as Arab while others identify as just Lebanese/Levantine/Phoenician/Syriac/Maronite/whatever else is out there.
>>225557101yes
>>225559224>You're shifting the goalposts. You originally said Christians were always a minority everywhere in MENA so that's what I was responding to.And i still stand by it>Oxford handbook of early Christian archaeology specifically says hundreds of villages in Antioch's hinterland demonstrate a fully Christian society from the later 4th century onward which constitutes Christianity outside of major cities.Meaningless drivel if you dont post the proof. You will find that they're mostly talking about settlements>Egypt is even less ambiguous here because the Cambridge history of Egypt says outright that the great majority of Egyptians were Christians at the time of Muslim conquest. Lots of other scholarship specifically identifies the copts as teh majority population. 7th century papyrus show indigenous Christian elites administering rural taxation and agriculture after the conquest.See aboveWait am i replying to an AI summary lmao>There were powerful Syriac monasteries and schools, Coptic institutions, Armenian kingdoms, Christian Byzantines of Asia Minor, Church of the East networks going into Persia and other parts of Asia, etc. many centuries before modern western missionary activity.Yeah man so powerful that the only major christian power in the region since byzantium was crusaders from europe >>225559356>Fair given that yes they're not the same, but what I meant was Lebanese people are largely descended from older Levantine populations rather than a full replacement of their native population by Arabian Peninsular peoplesIrrelevant chain of thought that leads nowhere since we can just say that said phoenicians were just bronze age canaanite larpers so on so forth until we reach the first homo sapiens to settle in the region
>>225559668>Meaningless drivel if you dont post the proof. You will find that they're mostly talking about settlements>Wait am i replying to an AI summary lmaoNo.Here is some documentation since you're saying it's baseless though. Bar page 409 and 420 specifically discuss locally funded village churches and conversion of rural villagers so it's not just byzantine colonial settlement. Wilfong page 175 states the majority of Egyptians were Christian at conquest and Saleh page 400 lists Copts as Egyptian majority while discussing their transition into a Muslim majority.https://www.researchgate.net/publication/231907730_The_Christianisation_of_Rural_Palestine_during_Late_Antiquityhttps://academic.oup.com/edited-volume/28038/chapter-abstract/211931516https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/abs/cambridge-history-of-egypt/nonmuslim-communities-christian-communities/43B678CF1F0164A03F74A21F711E6DC1https://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctv1b9f5mn
>>225559224nice chatgpt response
