DJT is a language learning thread for those studying the Japanese language.Japanese speakers learning English are welcome, too.Read the guide linked below before asking how to learn Japanese:https://web.archive.org/web/20220326112058/https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/learn/guide.htmlGrammar references: https://djtguide.github.io/grammar/grammarmain.htmlArchive of older threads: https://desuarchive.org/int/search/subject/Daily%20Japanese%20Thread/Translation requests, insults, politics, reddit posts, lust, learning method / eceleb discussions: >>>/jp/djtPrevious Thread: >>225647753
おつ
ご苦労様
苦労しかありませんわ、このスレに
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今何がおった
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Ohio.
>>225688598保守-兼-雑談:オーストリアノンは『生徒会役員共』をよく読んでる印象あるけど精神的 正統 続編である『穴がある』も読んでるの?どっちのほうが好みとかある?
>泥棒 = thief>泥 = mud, 棒 = stick>stick in the mud = 古風で頭の固い性格で、新しいことや面白いことを嫌う人>なので thieves = sticks in the mudJapanese has filled my head with random associations like this
>>225706143面白い連想ゲームだね
>>225707000ただ厚切りジェイソンの動画を見ていったら突然思いついただアイデアhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2icA1VaYg80&t=55s>兎に角 (anyway, for the time being (let's do X), (let's to X) for now)>兎 = bunny, 角 = horn>horned bunny = jackalope (JACKrabbit with anteLOPE horns)>よって、anyway = jackalope
>>225707804なるほど
アルミラージこわゆす :(´◦ω◦｀):
So, here's a summary on わけ, one of the words that makes students want to slit their throats in frustration. Hopefully I haven't missed any cases (hehe, cases/わけ)>わけではない: 別にあなたのために弁当余分に作ったわけじゃないわ->It's not like I made an extra portion for you or anything (you b-baka)>わけにはいかない: 負けるわけにはいかない!->I can't afford to lose!/I can't lose!explanatory sentence + second sentence with わけ. このネックレス、ダイアモンドじゃん! 高いわけだね->This necklace has diamonds in it. No wonder it's expensive!>わけで (giving reasons. also see 次第で) 会議が想定より早く終わったわけで電話しようかなと思った->The conference ended sooner than expected, so I thought I'd call (you)>わけがない: 勝てるわけがない!->There's no way we can win!>わけがある: そいつの敵対的な態度には訳がある->There's a reason why he's so hostile (more literally, there is a reason for his hostile attitude)>わけか? (to confirm the speaker's message) A: なるほど、会議が来週に延期されたわけか?->I see, so the meeting was pushed back to next week>つまり... わけ(in other words): A: 先生は追試は再来週って言ってた。 B: つまり、落ちたわけだね。->A: There's a make-up exam 2 weeks from now. B: So, in other words, you flunked the examI've always felt saddened that no one has ever made lists of cases/templates like these. It really helps summarize the ways to interpret these wordsPS: わけ gets lost in translation so often it makes you want to hang yourself
分け訳( ˘ω˘)ｽﾔｧ
あげ
蛮婦
I live just like NHK ni Youkoso! Seriously, it's exactly like that. I go to the hospital every day. Even my apartment looks just like the one in the series. It's the kind of apartment you'd see in Yani Neko, too. And why was I born in Chiba Prefecture, Japan, so close to Tokyo?私の生活は、まさに『NHKにようこそ!』そのものだ。本当に、あの作品とそっくりなんだ。毎日病院に通っているし、住んでいるアパートだって作中のものと瓜二つ。そうだな、『ヤニねこ』に出てくるようなアパートと言えば伝わるだろうか。それにしても、なぜ私は東京に近い千葉県なんかに生まれてしまったんだろう?
>>225712876can i visit u?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYNj8utImZw
>>225716126>>225716208どうぞ
\((i))/
>>225703401お恥ずかしながら、あたし第一話しか読まなかったんです。ギャグよりエロさの方が重視されそうなのであまり興味湧いて来ませんでしたわ>マガポケの大体が価値のないお色気漫画なので偏見の目で見ていた可能性もありますしもう一度やってみましょうか
SYDの方がよっぽどエロい! ( ｰ`дｰ´)ｷﾘｯ
What is the difference between 草花 and 花? both are just defined as "flower" in JITendex. Why would you use one over the other?
>>225721183花 = flower草花 = grass and flower
>>225721235The dictionaries dont say this though.I understand that the grass kaji is there but why would you use that particular word instead of just saying 「草と花」?
>>225714620チーバくん will be your Misaki :3>>225720741どこが〜
Big lady
>>225721516>草花(くさばな)>花の咲く草 (grass that yields flowers)>また、草に咲く花 (also, flowers that blossom in the grass)デジタル大辞泉より
>>225721516>>225727785You don't need to remember such ambiguous word anyway. I instantly realized you were reading text from some personally programmed eroge >>225721183because it's the kind of writing that sounds like an elementary school student tried really hard to use difficult words. It doesn't sound professional at all.
>>225728137>>225728137あんがと。>>225728137>Personally programmed erogeエブニクル2なんですけど。俺が作ったもんじゃないよ。
It's so funny when companies try to translate ご了承ください (e.g. after 画像はイメージです。実物と異なる場合がございます)>Please understandbasically 理解してくれ/わかってくれ->I implore you to understand. This is rude. Why the hell am I, the customer, being ordered to be understanding of the business's failure to provide proper service?Nintendo has infamously used this translation and everyone's memed on it to no end (see offshoots like "smarr indie company, prease understando")>Thank you everyone for your patience and understandingWorks, e.g. at the end of a blog entry about planned maintenance, but you shouldn't use this when you ship a defective product or wrong someone (people absolutely don't appreciate getting damaged goods)>We apologize for any inconvenience and thank you for your understandingWorks in some cases, but it's not ご了承ください. This is closer to ご迷惑をおかけいたしますが、ご理解いただけますと幸いです
>>225731338Forgot to add.Sometimes it's better to just discard it.Product image for illustrative purposes only. Actual product may vary. (no need for ご了承ください)It's a disclaimer to cover your ass. No need to ask people to "be understanding" (at least in the West)
Does anyone recognize these kanji? I barely see that bottom right blue one as 愛. I thought maybe it's Kuji but a lot don't match.He's a Buddhist priest if that helps.
>>225737230these characters are called Bonji 梵字, so not Kanjionly used in Buddhismhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siddha%E1%B9%83_script
>>225737916Very cool! Thank you so much! I'm going to try and match the symbols now.I also thought they might have been 神代文字 as well but that didn't seem right.
>>>/vg/585538147>"Why does Yukari, the widest Hyakkaryouran, not simply eat the other Hyakkaryouran members?”whats the definition of eat in it
>>225738143I think they might've meant it literally?>but idk anything about Blue Archive, I'm not a lolicon
>>225738291>I think they might've meant it literally?>I'm not a loliconneither can be true
https://youtu.be/YhxE7phe6wM?t=553
>>225739859なんという悪質なニセ番組(´ε｀;)ｳｰﾝ…
>>225739859And this is why you learn Japanese before you step into Japan and not after, kids
>>225738883They both can be and are true :3
that's right ;3
>>225721617Yuru-chara Chiba-kun is shaped like Chiba Prefecture, and he looks like he’s parasitically attached to its shoulder.
なぜ「まんこ」は検閲するのに、肛門は検閲しないのか?
自分のことに心配がある
>>225745816¡desu no! XD
>>225746737
how many of the no gaijin allowed places would let you in if you spoke good japanese?
>>225747056>no gaijin allowed placesI don't know any such places (maybe some shops in redlight district but no idea)
>>225747056there's no chance with a gaijin with blue eyes (ΦωΦ)
>>225747056I wonder how good my japanese should be to visit one of these Mahjong clubs.I'd love to play with some japs irl. Especially if they have an automatic table.
>>225747472me on the center ∑:3
>>225747845Cute mahjong kot
>>225747845now that's meowjong
>>225748994それな(๑ᵔᗜᵔ)σ ｿﾚﾅｯ
子猫かわいいね
I heard y'all like flashcards *unzips pants*come get some vocabulary here, *ahem"
>>225747372>アスール超音符 in transliterations is my worst nightmareThey say accented vowels in Spanish are longer, but natives are incapable of perceiving it. Doesn't help that double vowels are separated into 2 separate syllables (reemplazar, cooptar, etc.)
wiki見てたけどギリシャ語の難易度頭おかしいやろ...
I could fight all of you
Thats right, run scared
>>225758992fight the non whites in your country instead John
( ˘ω˘)ｽﾔｧ
>>225747845https://youtu.be/e6K8Bt7FOco?t=554>>225757401現代ギリシャ語に手をつけるのは13歳でも手遅れな気がするんだよなｼﾗﾝｹﾄﾞ
みんな、今日何をする?仕事に行くの?今日は国の休み、でも明日現場にいきます。
>>225770107毎日の俺は休みです
>>225770392いちばんNEET
>>225770466最近チームフォートレス2遊びます毎日は6時間以上ですNEETとして、俺は日本語が練習していはず、でも。。。
>>225770654今、日本語あまりをべんきょうしてない。別の人が、シットポストはだいじょうぶです。
https://youtu.be/hyNOuebkny8?t=992lmao
>>225770021fuckin' cool English speakers! aren't they? xD
もじゃもじゃ(*ﾉｪﾉ)ｷｬｰ
>>225770947やっぱギリシャって落書きも哲学的なんかな
>東欧セルビアで25日、議会(一院制、定数250)総選挙が投開票され、14年ぶりの政権交代が確実となった。与党連合を率いるブチッチ前大統領が同日、投票締め切り直後に敗北を認めた。>強権政治への抗議運動から派生した学生主導の新興中道勢力「学生リスト」が地滑り的勝利を収め、議席の過半数を確保する見込みだ。フランスのデモとは大違いw
Cream soda? That's not how I remember it
Soda float? That's not the name I remember hearing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7p8RfSrjfhYsasuga
>>225773556クリームソーダはこんなやつ
>>225772557スレ間違えてるぞボケ>ブチッチ前大統領
んっ、にゃ〜
>>225790596蛮婦or蛮夫?
晩プーです farting in the night xP
ただいま晩ご飯食べたところですこんがり焼いたローストビーフと焼きジャガイモおいしかったです
>>225795637looks so yummy! im jealous of you _(:3｣ ∠)_
え
>>225797484Don't beただの牛肉なんだけど。レストランのものに比べたら靴の裏みたいな味といってもいいだろう
>>225800466なかなか贅沢な台詞さすが世界一牛肉を食べる国やな
https://x.com/misaki1375089/status/2096617200195170723ヤバい
>>225803012世界一牛肉を食べる国ってあんたのなんですけど?やっぱり和乳美味しくてたまりませんわ
雨ga降ってる
Are the nips on Xitter still salty about France or did they seppuku in shame?
>>225807449Mostly it was just the "French" and the Japanese calling each other slurs there really wasn't anyone salty desu.
>>225807195中に人がいるね ∑(ΦωΦ;)
>>225807449https://twitter.com
>>225808594そうだ、その人は俺だ。(俺はたまに猫をレイプする)
猫を被る(意味深
>エブニクル2>敵>スウェーデン人
>>225805468>ten>teen>teeenスレ毎に10ページ目を達成した回数 (´･ω･`)
i'm beginning to understand a lot of dialogue even though i'm not progressing particularly hard and i still use english subsnot really sure how to /immerse/, probably need to watch shit i dont care about actually understanding
>>225818215Some things you can do>try to detect cliche structures (そういうつもりはなかった->I didn't mean it that way, ヒーロ気取りか?->are we playing hero now? (X気取り), etc.)>pay attention to onomatopoeic and mimetic words (しゅるしゅる, しゅわしゅわ, じゃりじゃり, ふわっと, etc.). you are gonna have to force yourself to incorporate those into your vocabulary>write a bucket list of hard to understand/use stuff, like how they tack on modified nouns at the end of sentences, something that doesn't really exist in English (would be redundant to say stuff like 電車が遅れる模様です... you'd just say "the train seems to be running late" (no signs of 模様))>add notes to words (e.g. formal, humorous, technical term, used when disparaging someone, said ironically, only applies used to refer to oneself, disparaging, shows contempt, compliment, self-deprecating). flashcards from premade decks often lack this info. the kind you'd scribble in class on your notebook
>>225818646i'm actually fairly good at picking those up i think ill skip it i just want to /immerse/ like i did with english
>>225818714If you want to pick up words like natives, it's as simple as watching/reading and trying to guess what a person means (not just what they said) and why they used those words, with the occasional dictionary lookup.Your biggest obstacle is gonna be the 使い分け(differences in usage) that need to be explained by someone who knows the language.If the going gets too tough, you might think of writing down the things you don't understand and leaving them for later. It's better to leave a hole than just give up
ぼくが出来ないと思う
>>225819279>differences in usagelike every other languagewhat do you think should i do? watch anime with nip subs? or double subs? i dont really read anythingi think i can attribute my partial success to the fact that i have a ton of time in commute when i can do anki
>>225819458>like every other languageExcept it's tougher with Japanese because you'll encounter difficulty navigating through the way some concepts are rendered, like the くらい/ほど/程度/だけ group. And you have tons of words for the same thing, like 年寄, 年配者, 高齢者, etc.Like, imagine stuff like べく vs ために. Both will yield "in order to" as a translation, but the usage varies greatly (former implies a strong desire to to it on the part of the speaker). Also, からには vs 手前 (former expresses you're doing it out of a sense of duty/with conviction, the latter implies like you're doing it to avoid losing face (because you promised it, you made a public declaration))
cant learn kanjis
Did you know that this too is impermanent, characterized by suffering, and neither self nor belonging to self?
うp
me in the rightest (●_●- )
>>225824873Never in the wrong? I kneel
Did you know that when you experience a pleasant feeling, if you approve, welcome, and keep clinging to it, the underlying tendency to greed underlies that? And that when you experience a painful feeling, if you sorrow and wail and lament, beating your breast and falling into confusion, the underlying tendency to aversion underlies that?
Did you know that without giving up the underlying tendency to greed for pleasant feeling, without dispelling the underlying tendency to aversion toward painful feeling, without eradicating ignorance in the case of neutral feeling, without giving up ignorance and without giving rise to knowledge, it is quite impossible to make an end of suffering in this very life?
>>225820625honestly i dont think i can appreciate this advice at the stage i am, my comprehension is still fairly rudimentary
>>225825556maybe.. yes? m(_ _)m
>>225826104I just cited grammar points that can have similar translations but with different registers and nuances. When you learn them via grammar drill books you'll often be left wondering how to use the more advanced expressions (without sounding like a dumb weeb at least)You should at least be familiar with くらい, ほど and だけ at the very least>>225826654さっきの冗談だったので失礼しました。実は>I'm IN the right = 私が正しい/私の言う通りだ>I'm ON the right = 右側にいる (映っている?)ちなみに、I'm IN the middle = 中/真ん中にいる前置詞って本当に地獄の底から這い上がってきたような恐るべき悪夢と言っても過言ではない
>>225827831i dont intend to learn grammar at all it's a waste of timeif you come from a grammatically rich language like polish to something like english or even worse, japanese it just feels like a toddler babble or maybe it's just me being really good at learning languages but to be fair i've tried using english since i was like 5
>>225827898But those 3 words are a must have regardless of whether you devote time to dedicated grammar study.
>>225827831あんがと先生!!I wanna beat all the prepositions! ᕙ( ˙꒳˙ )ᕗ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5Ws8OhnrOEへぇ......................................
>>225828117>「叱責されて強くなる」はやっぱり正論>働き改革だのなんだののせいで苦手が成長しない>日本人はパワハラ環境下の方が生産性高いI'm pretty sure that shitting on people, and higher-ups throwing their weight around and making them feel like they're on thin ice will give them ulcers rather than get them to (strive to) become more productiveBut I don't live there, so I can't really give an opinion
IT系第二新卒の募集は終わったけどses/sierさんたちは年中募集してるらしい。
>>225831249¡qué pedo! :O
>>225831412
>>225832099only señorita will win! (ㆁωㆁ*)
>>225832222
hay hay~ (((:з)⌒(ε:))) ｺﾛｺﾛ
>>225747056probably 95% of them because most of these "xenophobic no foreigner allowed businesses" are actually just businesses who cannot serve people who don't speak japanese, hence the restriction
Is the DJT discord server still active?
>>225831412But pedo = おなら (*ﾉωﾉ)ｷｬｰ
Can someone tell me how to say"Is it okay if I recline my seat?" when on the trainSomeone said this to me and I understood what he said and yet I can't actually parse it. I just heard some words and the context. How do you say recline the seat? And on that note how to say "out the seat back upright"
>>225839112Here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7A6w0VIFbo>席を倒してもいいですか>exact words in the video: ちょっと席を後ろ倒してもいいですかI was gonna make a joke about crushing the ribs of the person behind as thanks but I was concerned someone might take it seriously>"put the seat back upright"席を元に戻す(return the seat to its original position)席を前に倒す(recline the seat forward) also exists, but that also includes reclining it beyond an upright position
日本のツイッターがオモロすぎいる。
こんばんはdjtのメンバー
you sorry fool you could not be the chosen one
>>225846914選ばれしものを出来損ない呼ばわりするとは。。。 失礼ですこと
/((i))\
I shall slumber, until I am awakened again...
The Nightmare swirls and churns unending
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIRTvI4o2pY
>>225851309おなだんmad頼む
aforebefore...cfore
d4
あなたに対して性的に積極的すぎたのなら謝るけれど、すべて私のせいだとは言い切れないはずよ。
>>225854445とりあえず小さなチ○チ○をしまいなさい
>>225854528あなたのものより5インチ大きいです。
>>2258531378四歩
子供の時に戻りたい
>>2258546305三桂成
>>225864091酷いマイルールww
宇宙麻雀もとい宇宙将棋! Σ(￣ロ￣lll)
Sell me on learning Japanese.
>>225873210bragging rights before god-tier nootropics and brain chips make language learning a joke?
god please give me a chip for speaking Greek? (@_@;)
>>225873210uhhhhh you can learn all sorts of new slurs about asians... and you can go to japan I guess and call people those slurs?
just call me nigga, fella B^)
>>225873210Learning languages keeps your brain in tip-top shapeFun puzzles to crack constantly. Not so fun ones as well (there's no consolidated list of common pitfalls and how to avoid them, having people explain stuff to you is definitely a shortcut)Feels really good to know what characters are really saying (a lot of little touches get lost in translation)Some words are hilarious. e.g. 弊社 is translated as "our company". If you translate it literally, it's closer to "our ruinous company". You have people uttering words like this with a straight face all the time. Words like 睥睨(hey gay?) are also funnyThe shock in people's faces as they see you read and interpret moonrunes effortlessly
wally>>225873279>god-tier nootropics and brain chipsyou're retarded
>>225873584your district's Ordnung lets you post on 4chan?
I'm in the middle (´灬｀ )
>>225874046パレイドリア現象
>>225874090身も蓋もないでんがな _(:3｣ ∠)_
