I wish we could be friends with America again
>>226003669Who said you can't? What's stopping you?
>>226003669https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpfhSdJnEVM
>>226003669meh US-Brazil relations are still pretty good. I'm an American but grew up in Brazil (dad works in Agribusiness so big opportunities in BR) and never felt like "tensions" amounted to anything of substance. I was there for the Snowden leaks and NSA spying on Dilma shit, the Bolsonaro term, and been hanging out with Brazilians in Aus throughout this election period and literally nobody cares that hard
>>226003669how come they managed to convince Brazilian Germans and Brazilian Italians to declare war on Germany&Italy? Weren't BR Germans and Italians actually the dominant political and business class in Brazil?
>>226004328>Weren't BR Germans and Italians actually the dominant political and business class in Brazil?Lol no. The Brazilian ruling class was, and still is to a lesser degree, primarily of Portuguese descent.
>>226004328No ties to the nazi party that rose to power rapidly. Lots of German-Americans fought for USA too.
>>226003720>I'm an American but grew up in BrazilDios mios...
>>226003669Aren't you both commies now?
>>226004328People emigranting to the new world aren't typically the biggest lovers of the old country. They light love the culture, but culture is not the same as government.
>>226004328Lmao, not... they was poor peasants rural farmers iliterares with 18 children per couple, many of them even slavized in plantations by the portuguese injun mixed landlords
>>226004466Holly shit, not. German brazilians are random poor or middle class small farmers
>>226004328We are mostly Poortuguese. Always have been
>>226004400Your last presidents were>Rousseff>Temer>Bolsonaro>Lulaonly the last one is of Portuguese descent>>226004466ok so why is southern Brazil the richest part of the country?
>>226004591Lula alone has been in power for about the same amount of time as the other three combined and he will still serve one more term. And that's just the presidency. The Supreme Court and the leadership of congress is primarily of Portuguese descent.
>>226003669You've never been friends and Americans don't know what Brazil is
>>226004591>ok so why is southern Brazil the richest part of the country?I think you got it in reverse. I'm pretty sure the migrants went south because it was rich, just like they went to the USA's north for the same reasons instead of bumfuck nowhere in Georgia
>>226004784It's kinda weird how Brazil lacks global relevance for such a big and resource-wealthy country. It's like they try to stay isolated on purpose. I don't think I know at least one Brazilian company.
>>226004591With dificult and hard work, not wasting few money, studying new agrarian technologies, etc...
>>226004809>I'm pretty sure the migrants went south because it was rich,when the European immigrants were coming to South Brazil, it was just a thick forest, not even arable land. Its economic value was zero.
>>226004815That's the point, by WW2 times they were already a serious business and political force. Combined GDP of SP+PR+SC+RS would be higher than the rest of Brazil.
>>226004830Many came tricked with fake promices like in Brazil was one economy like US, left little Poland, Lithuania because in Brazil the trees grow golden of fruit trees and not work is necessary to grow wheat
>>226004328The immigrants had economic power, since they weren't lazy like the portuguese elites, but not political power.Some ships were sunk on our coast, german submarines were blamed, and the old elites of couse found an excuse to steal the wealth from the immigrants, and close the newspapers and schools in foreign languages, even Polish was outlawed.. lmao
>>226004910>like in Brazil was one economy like US,Depends on the period, while in the early 1800s people would indeed immigrate to the US to work in agriculture, but in late 1800s people would only come to work in industry. In Brazil everything was always about agriculture.
>>226004910Look here the trees myticals that give golden, Johann
>>226004416>Lots of German-Americans fought for USA too.You speak as if though conscription wasn't going on at that time. The Germans were sent to fight the Japanese. Likewise the Japanese were sent to fight the Germans.
>>226004961>Polish was outlawedThankfully historical justice is being brought backhttps://notesfrompoland.com/2022/08/01/polish-made-official-language-in-brazilian-town-founded-by-poles/so now I finally have a tropical place where I can retire
>>226005032https://youtu.be/pdJadJFbqrU?t=1525even local black people speak Polish therevgh
>>226005032Tropical? Kys, nor all Brazil is a tropical paradise
>>226005074Buddy, Rio Grande state is one steppe cold like Mongolia, -5C/25F in a bad winter and snow is common
>>226005074to me it's tropical enough, it's barely +5 C here now
>>226005110I imagine you complain of 5C, walking vy Rio Airport to reach it, with temperature of 45C all year
>>226003698Lula ou algou
>>226003669It's not worth it. America is a terrible friend.They wanted to kill our empire. They funded the IRA. They actively wanted our decline. But blighty ain't heard no bell
>>226005129>with temperature of 45C all yearthis is heaven
>>226005195OP is a retard, what did you expect?
>>226004328>traitors that abandon their country to seek their own self-interest>"why didn't they side with the homeland?"I guess we'll never really know the answer
>>226006224>traitorslmaolife was fine here until you put a bald buffoon in power.it's not our fault that the new italian state was so incompetent that it was not even capable of feeding its own people, btw.
>>226004328>Weren't BR Germans and Italians actually the dominant political and business class in Brazil?No
>>226005195I hear this all the time, and I genuinely wonder, is the U.S. an especially bad ally, or is this just how international politics works? After all, it’s not uncommon to hear about minor acts of backstabbing between allies
>>226003669Jews and Asian Jews won't let us
>>226005195Every Brazilian knows this, except for the lunatics.The U.S. sabotaged Brazil, staged a coup, infiltrated spies, sabotaged its nuclear and space programs, and carried out a “law fair” coup.
>>226005195>>226005247>>226010349Shut up libtard
>>226004830>arable landSouth brazilian land is the most fertile in the country because of an old basaltic eruption, subtropical climate makes it perfect for grain. Not sure if they knew about that tho
>>226011451but this land was inaccessible before someone cut down the jungle
>>226004809I mean not really, a large part or the majority of German migrants in the US mostly went to empty spaces where they got free land and built it up.It was probably similar in Brazil.
South is is not the rich part of the country. Southeast is. São Paulo and Rio de Janeiro.The part that have jews of course
>>226003669After today, we will be Brazilbro. Kick out the euros out of here like the good ol' days.
>>226012205more like O Sul creates wealth, while SP and RJ redistribute it (while consuming half of it)
>>226012389São Paulo conquered and influenced the southern interior. In fact, Santa Catarina was irrelevant, while Paraná was part of São Paulo’s territory, back then, there were only Gauchos and Caipiras.And yes, I am a Gaucho.The colonies have always been poor and remain relatively isolated and poor. Santa Catarina’s wealth is concentrated entirely along the coast and in a few specific cities with specific industries.São Paulo is a behemoth; its GDP is greater than that of all the other Brazilian states combined. São Paulo’s GDP is greater than that of all the countries in Latin America.My great-great-grandfather sold meat to them and bought coffee. He also served in a few of the later tropas.
>>226012587>São Paulo is a behemoth; its GDP is greater than that of all the other Brazilian states combined. yeah, because it sucks out wealth from all the other states
>>226004809No, the South was a huge forest. Europeans were brought here to populate these areas.
>>226012641He certainly doesn’t steal from the backward Poles who live in isolated villages.There’s no reason to lie: while the Rio Grande region was slow to industrialize, São Paulo was the engine of industrialization. Even further back, the farms in São Paulo were models of excellence, while we were raising cattle with very little know-how.São Paulo contributes much more to the federal government than it receives; it is by far the most robbed state in the union.
>>226012766Poles, together with Germans, literally turned that wasteland into a Brazil's powerhouse. But that was possible only because our ancestors didn't have to pay taxes (and now the taxes are so high!)
>>226012888Delirium.
>>226005195>>226009759I think the US after the war pretty much pressured and sanctioned every Anglo colony and fucked them over.It was also one of the big goals of the globalist organization UN they founded(together with the UK, Churchill seemed pretty naive for trusting them) to stop European colonies.
>>226013468Okay, but is this something specific to America? Or is it just that powerful countries are a bunch of bastards? Because I don’t believe for a second that the superpowers of the past weren’t exactly the same. So, I don’t get why some people talk as if being treacherous were a specifically American trait. That’s just what everyone does, no?
>>226005195The UK did the same shit throughout its historyIts just what major powers do
>>226003669Too late. The JEWSA has betrayed us countless times. It's impossible to trust them at all.
>>226009792this
>>226004328They were dominant in working the fields
I wish we could firebomb europeans again
>>226013468Hilarious how now the UN is a bad actor holding countries back
Good thread.
>>226016942>>226009792shut up dude, ffs