Unironically what can you do when you feel like this?:/
>>226018520become transsexual
idk what would make the north american native cooler than shit like zulus in africaalso northern euros lived in stick huts for like thousands of years
>>226018520who gives a fuck about ancestry. it doesn't make any difference in your life.
>>226018520this is the core of muh ancestors larpautists trying to feel like they belong
>>226018520Who the fuck is the guy in right supposed to represent?
>>226018520Just steal somebody elses. Blacks became hoteps
>>226018520feel what? What you trying to portray with this image
>>226018520realized that muh ancestry is a big ole fucking larp and you should learn to stand as an individual and be proud of yourself for your own achievements and decisions in lifenone of us asked to be born
>>226018865Fanatic individualism is a good way for your culture and heritage to get erased.Just look at any western country to see how well it is working out.
I don't care about my ancestry, I have dedicated my life to a country that none of my ancestors were born in or had anything to do withI don't fit in, I've never fitted in so why care?
>>226018560>zulus in africaWhats cool about them? They're remembered for winning one battle and then getting conquered
Be born with a better ancestry. Don’t know what to tell you bud.
>>226018919>muh culture and muh heritagelarp larp larp sahur>Just look at any western countryso the highest quality of life countries in the world founded on principles that agree with my own, coolenjoying that midterm loss chud? soak in it
>>226019015Isandlwana was the worst British defeat of the Victorian era. had the Zulu committed to guerrilla after it, like they intended to, instead of listening to a retarded shaman that convinced them to zerg rush the machine guns because they were "invulnerable", there's no way the British could have won, when the Zulu could field 40k soldiers. The Xhosa that was much smaller in numbers and unorganized held the British for 100 years during the Cape Frontier Wars
>>226018520I don't care about my ancestry as much as I care about my religion but I'm attached to this land and the people in it so idkcan't feel the same way about immigrants and groups that arrived here only two centuries ago and I can't help italso the average black American has more Mayflower ancestry than the average white American, I also don't understand why black Americans want to be anything except American when they're the group with the most consistent legacy in the country after Native Americans, and when I see white Americans larping as colonists I can't help but cringe because most of them have no genetic connection to those people
>>226018520I'm a Slav(e) and nothing will fix that...
>>226018865>>226018919There is a balance between these two extremes. You can appreciate your heritage as it is a way for you to connect with other people. Do not make it your personality.
>>226019015They conquered lots of other negroes before running afoul of whitey, for what that's worth.
>>226019261>worst defeat>only 900 brits dead>gets conquered anywayWhatever helps them cope with being conquered.
>>226019015As opposed to Finland which won 0 battles before being comquered?
>>226019240Nta, but those principles and quality of life … are the result of a specific culture and heritage bud.
>>226018520I pity anyone who would feel like OP image.People who care about their ethnicity's / country's history as something to cling onto for a sense of self are just hollow & empty inside. No amount of larping will fill the hole you feel inside.Ignore the vague and shallow historical identity, that doesn't define you, no matter how "glorious" or "shameful" it might _be_, embrace who you are today, be free of this mental shackle, be happy, but most importantly, be mentally free. Only then will you truly love yourself.
>>226019345This. Some larp is healthy. Too much larp is sad.
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>>226018570this
>>226018570>>226019760You literally wouldn’t exist without an ancestry. Nothing of you would be without it.
>>226019821Okay and I literally wouldn't exist without oxygen. Do you see me obsessing over it all the time?
>>226019741he's right retard
>>226019849You don’t have to obsess over it but pretending it makes no difference at all is equally as silly.
>>226018520If your self esteem is derived from the accomplishments of your ancestors, you need to hang yourself immediately.Blacks were enslaved for hundreds of years and they made greater scientific achievements than Mexcrements ever have.
>>226019897The difference it makes is completely negligible. You make more difference by living in the present and focusing on yourself in the here and now
>>226018520Who the fuck is this guy supposed to be?
>>226019947It's a Mexican self-insert
>>226019686>Too much larp is sadthat's basically this whole board
>>226020000Quads of TRVKE.
>>226019821Okay, and?
>>226019874I do like how he had such a picture ready though, says a lot about his browsing habits. But it's okay, he probably identifies with what I described and feels personally attacked and has to lash out.I myself am a second generation immigrant (mixed eastern european) with almost no connection to my homelands. I know too many people who stress about their identity crisis of being immigrants and feeling no connection to their homelands, and I always ask "So what? Who cares? You are you, doesn't matter what predefined label you slap onto yourself or lack, you are still you.".
>>226019932I agree that living on your own merits and in the now is ideal and more important, but even if you don’t care, others will care. Not even going full chud, but you’d go through life different as a black person vs a white person. That’s just the most obvious example.
>>226018520why not like just blax it? Kigali seems full of rootless OoA-returnees. I'd guess a multicultural new ground like that is the closest to home if all else feels shameful or bad.
>>226020154>but you’d go through life different as a black person vs a white personyeah and that's what we call living in the present. You accept the realities you deal with in the current era. Besides, people will only immediately care about what they can physically see. 99% of people won't give a shit if you're half X and half Y because they will only see your physical appearance and that's what they will judge you on. Your actual ancestry isn't the important part, the important part is YOU
>>226018520I basically know all my peoples mythos, or at least my specific tribe. Aside from that most of them can fuck off the greedy cunts.
Feels a bit shitty in a way to not call him a native since he came here at four, but this guy made some of the most quintessential Swedish music and was born in Czechoslovakia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georg_Riedel_(jazz_musician). Made the music for the Astrid Lindgren movies, so most Germans have probably heard it too. Feel like there's a tendency for non-natives to out-native the natives sometimes.
don't worry as you can tell even from this thread you are born in the era where everyone is an equally worthless replaceable individual
>>226018520Blacks will never admit they don't like their ancestry. It must be implied in a variety of ways without being explicitly stated.
>>226020102>I know too many people who stress about their identity crisis of being immigrants and feeling no connection to their homelands, and I always ask "So what? Who cares? You are you, doesn't matter what predefined label you slap onto yourself or lack, you are still you.".I would really like to know what goes on in their heads that makes them think like this. Like why would you ever be going through an identity crises when you have your own identity as an individual? I wonder if it really is just something so simple as low self-esteem or if there are more aspects to it. Because I 100% agree with everything you said
>>226018865>>226019240retarded faggot, I am a chud and I probably am 10x more successful than you in my private life
>>226020226But YOU only exist a certain way because of your ancestry. There are other direct impacts that are less apparent, like your attitudes and worldview. It’s like caring that’s it’s raining but not the why it’s raining. Learning why it’s raining can be helpful.
>>226018550Transracial*
>>226020263It's quite demoralizing when everyone else gets to brag about their ancestors being kings, queens, soldiers, explorers, conquerors and the like, while all we've got to look back on are centuries of exploitation and forced servitude. No wonder a lot of us become Hoteps.
>>226020508only loser whites brag about those things
>>226020533The only time I've seen euros embrace cultural heritage like whats in the OP, is that Norway row thing from the world cup
>>226020406I can only speak from personal experience but there is nothing about me that matters because of my ancestry. Beyond the fact that I'm white, literally none of it has made a difference in who I am as a person. I fail to see how it could. In another thread some anons were talking about medical reasons like maybe you are more predisposed to a certain illness because of your ancestry or something but outside of outlier things like that or if you wanted to a get a passport it's completely inconsequential. My attitudes and worldview have nothing to do with my ancestry, they have everything to do with my life experience from being alive. Me being white has certainly had effects on my views and things growing up in a country where it feels like there is never-ending racial tension (at least among certain loud groups of people) but my actual ancestry has NOTHING to do with that at all. Every example you can give of ancestry mattering matters infinitely less because of ancestry than it does simply due to your upbringing and life experience.>but your upbringing comes from ancestry and culture and whateverokay, and? My upbringing obviously influenced me but it does not define me. I was raised catholic but I haven't been to church in years.
>>226020286I think it stems from low self-esteem and too much exposure to online content larping about how important this shit supposedly is.That combined with how we are currently in such a lonely and isolated era of humanity, people are making friends or meeting new people enough and they are desperate for connection just like the rest of us, so they cling onto whatever can give them a sense of community.
>>226020671people aren't*
>>226020671that's a good analysis
>>226020586I don’t know how more simply to put it other than it supplies the most fundamental context of your existence. If you truly don’t care, I can’t make you care about it, and you’re not obligated to.
>>226020931>I don’t know how more simply to put it other than it supplies the most fundamental context of your existenceThe fact that there are people living lives to their fullest without knowing anything about the "fundamental context of their existence" just goes to show that it isn't all that important, regardless of how you word it
>>226018520Solo abeja tu mismo
>>226021043It’s like history, but just family history applied to you specifically. You could go your whole life not knowing the slightest thing about history, but that doesn’t make it unimportant. If you can’t figure out why history might be important, then we’re not going to go anywhere with this conversation.
>>226021133well, realistically, history isn't all that important lmao. Like isn't a history degree basically completely useless aside from just going back to school to teach history to other people?And why is history important? So we can learn from our mistakes? Just look at Israel and Palestine, they have plenty of history and it isn't helping that conflict at all. Look at how (some, not all) black people in America victimize themselves because of slavery. Sometimes I genuinely feel it would be better for people to ignore some aspects of history
>>226020508>while all we've got to look back on are centuries of exploitation and forced servitude.Why don't they embrace their nomadic tribal history? Many of the tribes still exist and still live that way. But no it's not good enough. We wuz going to space and shit.
>>226021209I'm sure you feel the same about Israel
>>226019947his oc donut steel
>>226018520literally every group of people on this planet has been subjugated at some point in history. iirc there are currently more slaves on this planet than there were during the transatlantic slave trade. Your ancestry is vast, there's plenty of history before and after any of them being enslaved. And most people don't come from warrior or explorer stock, your ancestors, free or not, were most likely farmers, fishermen, craftsmen, and laborers.
>>226018520Be like the Jews and work hard to be the best generation in the history of your race. They pretty much got raped for 2000 years straight and are now the most powerful nation on earth
>>226018520Just larp as aztec or nahua or whatever
>>226019015mfecane was bretty based
You have the opportunity to create your own ancestry, your own traditions, your own values. Being chained to aesthetics from 2000 years ago is a burden.
>>226019947me
>>226018520Why is it missing the Egyptians, they wewuzz that one more than the others
>>226019650Being derooted from your culture is objectively the most soulless and "hollow" feeling. My Germanic ancestors wrote/built so much cool shit. Eddas, Goethe, Schiller, Kant, Jung, Heidegger, Kyffhäuserdenkmal, Walhalla, basically all recent inventions in science and technology. It's an amazing feeling to take it in. You're just calling it "shallow" because you're coping about being a mutt KEK
>>226022113People make claims like this and then find out that they are genetically Polish or some shit, and their grandparents moved to Germany in the 50s, changed their last name, and just never told anyone that they were Polish.
I took this ancestry test and was 98 percent norwegian. Apparantly it is so rare, so people cant figure out my ethnic origin.
I really like the history of my ancestors and it’s fun to engage in, in a different kind of way you might for one that you aren’t related to. But gloating about it is what thirdies with grievance politics do, like who fucking cares?
>>226020508The reality is that that shit is over and done with, and if you care about who you consider your people, your focus needs to be on the present and the future. Greek civilization basically died in the 2nd century BC, and modern Greece is a dump bereft of any relevance to the world. If there's Greeks that care about the Greek polis, their priority has to be in uplifting the nation over being fixated on things that happened 2000 years ago. If blacks want to feel better about who they are, we wuzzing as indians and moors isn't going to make them any less poor and degenerate in the present. They need to work on building themselves up and creating a legacy for their descendants.
>>226020533anti-White cope
>>226022185then they find out the "Polish" ancestors were actually even older Germans who originally traveled East.
>>226023242You lost.
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I feel the same I wish I was a northern euro woman(I am a Greek woman)
>>226023427Why not just move to northern europe then>>226023395First girl looks cute
>>226023432I mean isn't the op topic about ancestry
>>226018520be a Chad nothing-doer and self-accepter
>>226018560Yeah but we destroyed Rome and found America, so the aura is still there.
>>226023451Okay but if you learn the language+look like the locals+follow their customs (sometimes even more than the locals do), you can fool even yourself into believing it
>>226018520Become your own person, like me>no allegiance to any culture or heritage >independent and rational>atheistic tendencies >don’t feel nationalistic towards any country
>>226020533I am successful (6 figure job, own a home, married with children), white, and can trace my genealogy multiple ways to kings.Why do people knee jerk relate interest in and reverence for ancestors with lack of personal achievement? Is it the only way they can cope with ancestral shame?
>>226018520Almost all of the people I've seen that search their direct ancestry and try to portray it very cool or even imagine some things, they were all full blown schizos.
>>226023827>and can trace my genealogy multiple ways to kings.Which kings
>>226019874>anime posting retard>being right on anything
>>226023897I can trace several ways to Henry VII of England through James V of Scotland’s illegitimate sons. One way is by his son the Earl of Orkney who has a lot of descendants in Sutherland and Caithness today. Two other ways are by the Campbells of Cawdor, one of which married a great great granddaughter of James V’s other illegitimate son the Earl of Moray, and I can trace my line to two of that guy’s great great grandchildren by separate means. That’s the most fantastical but the sources are strong for one of the Campbell of Cawdor routes.There are a couple other routes to Scottish kings: the MacDonalds of Sleat, the MacKays of Strathnaver, the MacKintoshes of Dalmigavie, the Campbells of Ardlarich, and the Sutherlands of Little Torboll are the most noteworthy ones. Some are more likely or better supported than others. Once you find any connection to Scottish nobility, it starts looping on over and over and the same people appear again and again (it should be noted that most if these families are in the northeast of Scotland, and even the connection to the Sleat family is by a MacDonald cadet who settled near Cawdor) and there’s no point naming the same kings constantly for all of them. None of them have a connection to James V or a more recent king.There’s one non-Scottish line that were plantation owners in Virginia, and they can be traced via 17th century visitations to people that eventually go back to Edward I.I can trace some of my wife’s lines to Edward III as well.
>>226018520I just play video games. I can be whatever I want and (more or less) orchestrate my own origins there.
Very suspicious posting in this thread
>>226018520it's strange that we don't we wuzz about the empire. on the contrary people think little of their heritage or even demonise it.is muh empire a thing in england? genuinely though if another other people were in our position, they would bring it up in every conversation. see how much we wuzzing other normal indians and chinese already do, imagine if they had a global empire.
>>226018520I doubt anyone doing "white people stuff" is doing it with their ancestry in mind.When a black person is procrastinating doing "white people stuff" with feelings of bad, it's probably just not what he wants to do. And why should he? Africans superpower (besides athletics) is timing and situational awareness. Like in improvisional music, comedy, fighting and socializing. It's very hard to learn and I guess it's why it's not brought up to light very often. It doesn't help employers get the well-planned job done timely. On the opposite, it might have made the black guy able to talk and charm his way free from that long-term investment he can't feel motivated by.So just be yourself, not your ancestors lack of whatever you have or appreciate. You are free to prove yourself in a group with others now accomplishing things. It's no mystery why African circumstances have led to a different culture and history. It was good enough without the engineering. Today, OVER engineering (bureaucracy and technology) for the sake of capitalism and cementing social status is a huge problem.
