When did you become an atheist iyc?
Jainchads won
>>226065668We don't talk about jainism.
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I'm not nearly as anti-religion as I used to be but that's only because I realised just how many problems I have with them are catholic-specific.Outside of some tiny cults centered around 1 guy keeping you in the basement it's honestly the worst religion on the planet. My country is a defacto colonial entity existing solely to extract wealth and send it to the vatican, I guess also as a place to exercise their protection racket for pedophiles.Orthodox is probably second worse, their churches side with the worst dictators and go against normal democracies but at least the money mostly stays in the country.
it was pretty simple really
Both of my parents are atheists so I was never religious in the first place
I was born and raised atheist and my parents before me are also atheistsMy grandparents had the love of God bombed out of them
at birth
Honestly I was like that when starting to feel atheistRight now I just don't think about religions outside anthropology and history
>>226065652he's reaching for the magic mushrooms in his pocket
identity politics are the religion of the atheist
>>226065652when they said pray and go to church more often instead of playing video games
>>226065652I did for a bit in my late teens, but reading through major literary and philosophical books made me re-appreciate the question of God. Plato, Spinoza, Augustine, etc. I wouldnt say im any clear denomination, but I understand the attraction towards something higher than the here and now.
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>>226066107>Plato, Spinoza, Augustine, etc.You're pretty dumb if you think those are anything alike.Out of these I'd say only plato had ideas worth paying attention to. Spinoza seems like a Terry Davis of his day. Augustine can go fuck himself.Read Nicomachean ethics, Aquintas plagiarised it and made it retarded so you might recognise some of the ideas, but this will be way more useful to you than that drivel they've been feeding you.Here's a fun fact: 1+1+1=3
>>226066205>if you think those are anything alike.I didnt say they were. Just that they considered the Idea of God. Which they did from different angles.
>>226066212>>226066186Atheism is more rational than belief in the Abrahamic god.
>>226065652I'd more or less force belief in God and Jesus up to like, 14. Weren't even an explicitly religious household. I felt alienated and alone, trampled upon, longing for justice, and needed someone who actually gave a shit about me.Well that last part hasn't changed at all, people care even less about me now, but I guess my brain grew too big for delusionmaxxing.
>>226066186This has nothing to do with atheism tho
>>226066243until that Abrahamic god makes his laws and morals the most popular on earth, with books and prophets that cited prophecies
>>226066258>I'd more or less force belief in God and Jesus up to like, 14Huh?
>>226065652Hindus and Jews don't proselytize. Christians (it looks like it's just a Catholic in there) proselytize. Muslims don't really proselytize anymore (forced conversion fell out of fashion).What the Catholics used to do, and what the Hindus, Jews, and Muslims have now in common is that their primary method of increasing their numbers is by simply breeding more. Jews and Muslims are very inbred due to this. I don't know if Hindus are also inbred. I don't know enough about Hindus to know what the reason is for their strategy of high fecundity with seemingly no planning or intention to build anything up or leave anything behind for successive generations, but it does seem to hinge heavily on other countries accepting their societal refuse. The Christian and the Atheist are the most similar because they are universalist and have been integrated into the west; so anyone is technically capable of being integrated into Christianity or Atheism. But Atheism isn't really anything, it then just becomes whatever the dominant cultural force is at the time. Even ironically, Christian. You see now the phenomenon of culturally secular westerners deus vulting or shilling for gregorian chants or orthodoxy or whatever they think is cool at the moment. But more often than not, an atheist is just the product of the corporate, academic, and media apparatuses in his society. This is why a Chinaman or a Japanese doesn't have dyed blue hair and a bone in his nose. And to the extent that they do, there is an always obvious cross-pollination from the west going on. >>226066243Depending on your capacity for reason to begin with, it is more rational to just submit yourself to the stream of whatever is culturally dominant. So logically we can expect a greater number of atheists in a culturally secular country, and hindus in a hindu country, etc. Britain is culturally secular, and so therefore you are atheist.
>>226065652this image takes me back to being a preteen on ifunny.com posting atheist memes and arguing with christians to cope with being a virgin loser.
>>226066296>until that Abrahamic godHe didn't do any of that the people who made him up did.
>>226066296Two more weeks
>>226066258>Weren't even an explicitly religious household.I imagine growing up in a European country is an absurd and surreal experience.
>>226065815same case, sometimes there's no choice but to be well versed in christian theology when getting European history
>>226065652around 12-13
>>226066428Christian theology it's kinoLove the mystic period
>>226066480Dominicans and Franciscans were among the first anthropologists in the Americas, thanks to them we have a primitive ethnologue catalog of indigenous peoples.
>>226066296No, that doesn't make that Abrahamic god any more rational. Rationality is not a democracy. The majority believing that 2+ 2 = 5 still doesn't make that true.
>>226066531Indigenous stuff is kino tooSadly only the Christian interpretation remains
>>226066644>>226066354weird how everyone conveniently ignores this>with books and prophets that cited prophecies
I don't know, like 13. I ended up getting Pageau'd, though.
>>226066688>>with books and prophets that cited propheciesAnd what's that supposed to prove?
>>226066688So when's the world ending?
>>226065652The opposite, the older I got the more it made sense to believe in a higher being. Also seeing atheist's flip flopping on science they don't agree with further cemented my stance.
>>226066797I forgot to include, that last part is why Atheist's don't like Religion. They just like shit that agrees with them and the structure of religion comes into conflict with that. That's why you see scientists getting cancelled over the supposed pursuit of scientific truth.
>>226066887How many times have Atheists burned religious people at the stake for not believing in what they do versus vice versa?
christianity... the horrible cage of being a decent person
>>226066960C'mon, man. The 20th century is within living memory.
>>226067002No correlation. People use religion to justify whatever. If you'd skip that part entirely and just admit you pass judgment according to your feefees you would look less retarded than you currently do.
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I think there is some meaning in universe, just that it is unknowable. But sure as shit no religion man has come up with is correct, and religious people are weird (outspoken atheists are weird too). I guess this is pretty close to default stance when you grow in secular society.
>>226067017 tell me then>>226067002>being a decent person
>>226065652Didn't, it's the natural state when you aren't indoctrinated by any of the cults as a child. When you later learn about them in school you just laugh at them and can't really fathom that there's people that believe it.
>>226065652>I'm happy outsidekek
>>226067142>>being a decent personeven John Wayne Gacy can be a decent person when you're an atheist
>>226067599If John Wayne Gacy were a christian he'd justify himself pointing at the bible and think himself a decent person.
>>226065652Why would atheism be associated with tech bros?Im atheist from the perspective that I need proof. Some shithead horrible teacher and miserable grandma also left a terrible impression for any other reason to associate with it other than god exists, and some more complex thoughts on it. Im from orthodox country btw.
I became an atheist when I was 11 and then I became a theist when I was 19 and remained a theist ever since
>>226067002lollmao
>>226067686prots are not christian, they worship satan
rejecting abraham is one thing. the stories, are just stories. we exist, and that weird enough.
>>226067599The difference is that an atheist can judge themselves whether that's the case or not. If JWC converted on his deathbed, christiands and God would be forced to deem him decent.
>>226067730Catholics are not christian, they worship the anti-christ
>>226066688I can write books too
>>226067815>The difference is that an atheist can judge themselvesyou don't believe in the afterlife, that means your government is the one that judges you, or whoever has power over you>>226067831Catholics have miracles, you have Mohammedans raping you to extinctionhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6Zu0iAhSpU
>>226067509thist. Sven
>>226065652Always been, I was raised irreligious
>>226066186>We don't know the details of everything with our current methods and technology, therefore a magic sky wizard made everything>Where did the sky wizard come from? Uhhhh who cares he was always there or something
>>226066243rationality doesn't exist in atheism
>>226067909lemme read my book nigga*reading*oh my interpretation of a passage that some nigger made when he was eating beans says that you are gay. send the pope $200 to popelane 300 vatican city, so you can change that fact.
>>226068016I mean yeah but you're getting raped to extinction right now as we speak
>>226067979>Where did the sky wizard come from?Someone had to create beetles so sky wizard spontaneously came into existence.
>>226067909>Catholics have miracles, you have Mohammedans raping you to extinctionIs this why Mohammedans are clearly the happiest race on the planet?>>226067577
>>226065652he became one during his twink death
>>226068086that graph is from prots, not Christians
>>226066186you can replace nothing exists with god exists and it would feel the same truth be told
Always have been. I just don't tell people that because it's seen as pretentious. At best I just say I don't care about religion
>>226068033>>226067909>huezilian endlessly fantasizing about rapeChrist's strongest soldier, everyone
>>226068114>those were zainichi-christians!medsConvert to islam immediately, heathen
>>226068200I'm just telling you what's happening to you right now, if that makes you uncomfortable that's a (You) problem>>226068223nah we genocided them countless times and they worship a faggot that got fucked by 30 men
>>226068271Literally in your dreams, you disgusting pervert. Good job proving >>226067120 right, since you're definitely not a decent person.
>>226068379nigga they're still bitching about that one time when Catholics from Iberia genocided them over 1000 years ago, then the Crusades, and now they bitch about the Jews genociding them, their entire religion is about being a bitch, that's why they worship oneatheists are the only ones getting genocided by those faggots because you just so happen to be even faggoter than them
>>226065652If atheists are so happy, why are they so miserable online? Curious. Also, Stalin and Mao, two biggest mass murderers ever since Genghis Khan, were atheists. No, you don't get to disown them, just like we don't get to disown ours.
>>226066186I don't know what 264829 x 1482618 is, but if you told me the answer was 4, I know enough to say that it's for sure not that.
>>226068520>No, you don't get to disown them, just like we don't get to disown oursNot how it works, since neither killed anyone in the name of atheism. Because atheism is not an ideology or worldview in itself. Meanwhile there is no shortage of idiots killing in the name of Jesus.
had my atheism stage at 13 grew out of it
>>226068033and you aren't? maybe if you read the books enough things will turn out better? toilette-paper is what it is.
>>226066688I'm catholic and all, but this is a circular argument.
>>226068902im sorry that i was mean, my friend in christ. have some pslams in kind. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVoidzxrLfc
>>226065652Hinduism sees all the cages as one.
my parents just literally never mentioned religion growing up. I don't think they're atheists (or at least, they don't identify as such).also all of my experiences with religious people freaked me out as a kid.
>>226065842With those he'll get closer to God than any sober religious person has.
>>226069922Lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky lucky
>>226068520The happiest countries are all secular leaning or majority irreligious. Most terminally online atheists are ex-religious people recovering from religious trauma so of course they're miserable.People raised without religion being a strong presence in their life aren't like that.
>>226065652i was raised without religion so i don't have a complex about it.my family judges religious people but only because of the political associations, not because they believe in a certain theology or lack thereof.i went through a phase where i went to church for exactly the political association that my family hated, but i never truly believed.i feel lost and without purpose. i don't believe in anything. i have no community. i hate most people anyway.i feel used by women, misled by my elders, and trampled by the competitive nature of achievement. i always wanted to live a simple and peaceful life ever since i was a child. i have that life now but i'm very lonely. nothing satisfies. nothing motivates. sometimes i want to believe just to have a purpose.
My mom is my god
hinduism barely counts as a cage im ngl
>>226065652im not religious but i am studying early buddhism for my inner peace and to reduce sufferingeverything in the world changes and attachment only breeds more suffering accept your feelings as they are dont avoid it
>>226070906I wish I could be Buddhist but every attempt a Westerner makes to Buddhism they just end up recreating what they want from Christianity.
>>226065652I kind of always was. My family was Catholic, but from a very young age I just thought religion/God was a comforting thing they tell children/themselves, much like Santa Claus, and I played along with it for Sunday school.
I'm not an athiest. My issue is religion. This is due to my parents being essentially fundamentalist christians when I was growing up. I say essentially as they would both vehemently deny the fundamentalist label. There were a lot of additional rules they followed that had no basis in protestant christianity, the evangelical christianity they subscribed to, or really anything at all aside from their peer group and their ad hoc ideas about morality. All manner of things were sinful, according to my parents, often with no predictable framework to follow. My siblings and I were constantly made to feel guilty for sins we weren't told were sins, or we didn't understand why they were sins, or why our parents became so angry about whatever trivial thing is happened to be that week. They'd say this television show is banned in this household, this activity is a sin, that family who live down the street are sinners and if we play with their children we are playing with the devil's spawn etc. You get the idea why I developed an issue with organized religion. All these extra ad hoc ideas originated from my parents' extended families and their "prayer group" and no doubt some televangelist scam artists as well.
>>226071194I use ad hoc here because it felt like they would come up with a rule, and penance for it, on the spot, tailored to whatever the wrong doing was, to placate/please god, or something.
>>226065652I never believed in God so i guess always have been
>>22606565213 then stopped at 20. Atheists claim not to believe in God, but they all believe in a devil.
>>226071194So you concluded all organized religion is no different than American-style Evangelical Christianity?
>>226065668shut the fuck up retard being born a Jain has malnourished me upto my entire adulthood. FUCK vegetarian cuckoldry.
>>226071720Soured on the whole thing yeah
>>226065652I am a diehard materialist-atheist. That is what AC Clarke and Asimov taught me when I was young.
>>226071795Makes sense. It's not like there are many other ways to practice the religion.
>>226065652Since I was born, the veil of religious lies finally fell away when Internet access appeared.
It's not that religion itself turns me away, but rather religious people. I have never met someone who is seriously religious and appears sane. Christians, mostly women, have appeared neurotic, the priests uncaring, literal agents of foreign intelligence. Muslims angry and retarded, juts hands up in the air and Allah take the wheel, very slave like. The few good religious people were following only some rules plus they weren't some idols that I wanted to strive to be. Anything Eastern-Hindu adjacent are just cults here, trying to have sex with women and kids and steal money from desperate people. Never seen practicing jews desu.However I do think that religious belief might be something that your average normgroid needs in order for society to function.
>>226065652When I read the bible, It's obvious bullshit. That being said there's no positive incentives to being atheist, It's better to LARP as religious
>>226071194Armerican evangelicals are among the most devilish spawn there is, ironically. Retards incarnate.
>>226072730>>226072730>there's no positive incentives to being atheistWhen you LARP as being religious, you give more social power to the religion you LARP as, that has detrimental effects to your society. You should be an out and proud Atheist so that Atheism becomes more entrenched in Italy. You're fortunate that if you did become an out Atheist, you wouldn't be harmed in Italy(assuming your parents or other family members aren't religiously intolerant).
>>226066186Every educated religious person believes in the big bang and evolution too btw
>>226073127Transformist ideas used to be somewhat well-spread in the muslim world up until the philosopphers got acked in the 12th centuryBasically no religious or educated person has denied the fact that celestial objects are spherical for the last 2 millenia in the westAnd the big bang was theorized by a catholic physicianThis kind of images is exclusively for the enjoyment of the lowest IQ subhumans
>>226073103>that has detrimental effects to your societyAtheists in Italy argue in favour of leftism, drugs and the like. Keeping some degree of structure with the modern catholic church is not a bad thing
>>226073244The catholic pedochurch is trying to replace you with retarded apes as much as demented leftists
>>226065652But i'm happy in my cage. Very demure and mindful. You could say I'm unbothered, moisturized, happy, in my lane, focused and flourishing
>>226065652atheist cage
>>226068520Atheism is not an ideology, it's the lack of one. Athiest lunatics don't kill people in the name of atheism. Meanwhile you have Islamic retards attacking people for drawing cartoons in the name of Islam
>>226074266atheism is an ideology in a sense that when people declare themselves as atheists, it is making a statement of world view in relation to theists. coming from a non-religious society where no one cares about religion is the default position, outspoken atheists are viewed with similar suspicion as outspoken religious people.
>>226065652I went from agnostic all my life to getting closer to christianity because it brings me a sense of comfort and belonging. Nobody in my family cares about religion.I just need to believe in something, and I think belief and having a well established moral code can be beneficial. A lot of people take pride in being an atheist until they have to face death or a very difficult time in their lives, and then they realise the value of faith.
ngl, for a european, paganism has more soul than atheismhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxHsWNV05dI
>>226074422You can believe that god exists without worshipping an Israelite tribal wargod
>>226074449i respect pagans. i mean obviously it is as made up as all other religions, but tying your world view into your own people and land makes it more soulful than taking foreign middle eastern myths as your own.
>>226074507Let us not forget that, although Christianity and Islam both stem from the Abrahamic faiths, Christianity, during its expansion across Europe, absorbed many pagan customs, festivals and ways of thinking. That is why people feel a connection to Christianity but not to Islam, because Islam lacks that element of pagan Europe. Even though they are sister religions. Pagan Europe is the very core of Europe’s soul
>>226074589yup, always found it funny how christians tried to co-opt midsummer's solstice celebration as christian festival here. yeah sure, we are burning these bonfires, drinking and dancing because of john the baptist lmao
>>226074422>A lot of people take pride in being an atheist until they have to face death or a very difficult time in their lives, and then they realise the value of faith.Pathetic headcanon by religgersPeople not believing in your jewish fairytales makes you seethe so much you've been making this retarded shit up for centuries
>>226065652Why are the atheists hip and knee censored
>>226065652I've always been a theist. I was raised Christian, but not strict, but even though I was Christened I just cared about God, Jesus was 'just' some bloke.
>>226065652always was. i was born in communist bulgaria and my childhood in the 90's did not involve any religion at all. to this day i still haven't seen a bible in real life
>>226066186as if religious lore less insane
>>226074669John the Baptist wasn't even a christian figure lol, rather an early competitor that got co-opted.
>>226071229>I depicted myself as a chad and you as a soyjak, I have already won!
>>226066205>if you think those are anything alike.youre such a dumb pseudointellectual nigger who tried to put words in this mouth hahah nigger you cant even fucking read kys
>>226076251You have to telepathically accept a 2000 years old jewish zombi as your lord and saviour or you will burn for eternity o algo
>>226067599Even Dysmas can be a decent person when you're christian
>>226066317> muslims dont proselytizeThey do, they just do it less openly. They don’t stand on corners and preach, at least not as often, they target vulnerable individuals > forced conversion fell out of fashion It never did, they just can’t do it openly in the west, except places like prisons or schools with Muslim majority
>>226073676Hot
>>226076877>They don’t stand on corners and preachThat's literally what dawah is. you're making up stuff with no understanding of reality.
>>226065652Uh oh
>>226065652I guess I'm closer to agnostic than atheist, but, that's just splitting cunt hairs with a chainsaw.Young... 3, 4? I basically came up with the Epicurean paradox on my own, and my parents' response was something like "We don't really like the people at church anyway. We just wanted to give you the option"I don't rule out the possibility that something sentient was on the other side of the big bang, or sent something to fuck monkeys until they came up with taxation, but if it's even paying attention, it's either strictly observing, or it's a sadist.
>>226075279I don't care what you choose to believe in, faggotYou're gonna be praying to Mecca soon anyways, either you want it or not
>>226077385Uh oh
>>226078732why are you hating on your fellow christians? why are online christians like this ?
>>226078792who said I'm hating on them?
>>226071229>I depicted myself as Carl Sagan, I've already won 420 blaze it
