do you think we'll maintain earth-nationalities when we colonize places far from earth?
>>226143312I hope not, but probably we will
Yes but they will be 100% larp, everyone's going to be full mystery meat by then
>>226143312Not for long. They'll evolve into their own thing pretty quickly. Though if it's various nationalities on one planet they could still be separate identities, but space-jews will be pretty different from Earth-jews probably. Though perhaps they'd be the exception that proves the rule now that I think about it.
>>226143312Europansies not welcome on Io!
>>226143312Yeah I think we will still have major nationalities in spaceEuropeans will unite and be just general whites but chinese will be their own thing, maybe russians too if theyll actually manage to build working rockets Better question is will there be religions in space, space jews/christians/muslims status
>>226143350Everything is already mystery meat if you go far enough in anthropological history and migrations. Human social identities are almost entirely a relative fabrication already.
>>226143312>colonize places far from earthwe'll never leave the solar system but maybe we'll invent racism against people who live on mars in some years or something
>>226143312"We" will never colonize space only wealthy pedophiles will
>>226143312countries will fuse into bigger blocks and those will be administrative regions in the globohomo government. it already feels like we have one culture.
>>226143398>we'll invent racism against people who live on marscant wait desu
>retards think we’ll colonize MarsLmao we’ll never leave earth, let alone the solar system
could probably just change our genetics to change skin tone, phenotype, metabolism, literally everything in the human genome by then
>>226143360i think it depends on the size/form/location of colonies.if you live in a habitat/spaceship belonging to a company where all it's finances are back on earth hiring crews from earth on long missions (think a work season on an oil rig) i dont think its gonna be very different from now.if its colonies where thousands live in a city-like thing for years together then maybe theyll develop a local identity.
>>226143398>>226143440The amount of evolution/genetic modification needed to get people to live in places as harsh as Mars would create new "races" (even subspecies) of humans very quickly.
>>226143312I don't think we will. But if we will it probably be like the European conquest of the New-World, it will ob obvious that some countries are descended from some nationalities and others from others. It won't be a kalergi mishmash.
>>226143522>obbe. No idea how I made that typo. fuck im sleepy.
>>226143508>habitat/spaceship belonging to a company where all it's finances are back on earth hiring crews from earth on long missions (think a work season on an oil rig) i dont think its gonna be very different from now.I think those 'colonies' will declare themselves independent rather quickly if they're settled by humans
How do I get a gf from Titan or Saturn?
>>226143389>muslimsI don't think islam would work in space, you'd need to point to mecca when praying. Islam doesn't even work near the poles, the fasting length increases significantly
I like to imagine a future in which every nation-state has its own planet or its own Bishop Ring-style space habitat, and we are all happy with that. Naturally, there would be some cosmopolitan and multicultural cities too.
>>226143553Get a gf from jupiter. They are more stupider and won't leave you
>>226143312Most likely yes.There will be supranational blocks but no world government, that would require submitting to ONE cultural framework and it's not really possible with humans.But also, space colony culture will definitely develop a "frontiersman" or "colonial" culture, due to communication and travel distanceYou will see people from Earth being American, European, African, etc, but being insufferable Terrafags towards colonies, and the colonials likewise developing their own arrogance.Basically most likely a future /int/ equivalent will probably have the country and the planet flag
>>226143553Stay there and recycle water some more orbitcel, they don't want you
>>226143570Hardest proof Islam was only created with 7th century Arabs in mind and can never be a truly universal religion is basic geography.
>>226143570They could emigrate to Mecca in spaceships; I don’t see the problem.
>>226143589If there were ever Muslims on Mars they'd pray in the direction of the first masjid constructed there.It would make a very interesting fantasy/sci-fi religion, a faith of people distantly descended from Muslims thousands of years in the future who pray in the direction of Earth but can't remember quite why.
>>226143570Computer, triangulate Earth's current and future positions, sharpen to isolate Mecca, deploy grav rugs and rotate all living crew pods so our floors point directly towards it for the duration of our prayers. Override safety protocols.
>>226143570>you'd need to point to mecca when prayingThey'd be able to pinpoint the location of Earth relative to their own by the advent of interstellar travel I reckon.
i can't wait for interplanetary racism
>>226143392Not me. I'm nordic as fuck.
>>226143609kek
>>226143522>it will ob obvious that some countries are descended from some nationalities and others from othersthat seems like the most obvious extrapolation of earth national evolution
>>226143605They denied us the Hajj...Imagine praying towards the people you're at war with and coming up with copes for it lol
>>226143589Nope, I'm not talking about the Hajj (Which itself isn't scalable, the stampede deaths increase year by year, since islam is the fastest growing religion). What I'm talking about is the fact that muslims need to point towards mecca while praying.
Well probably for a few generations but then it'd fizzle out and a new colonial identity would form.Like here in Australia. Australians still used British Passports as our default until the 1950s actually.
>>226143622based aryan
>>226143611The issue is, in some cases mecca might be above them and to the right, from their perspective. Resulting in this:>>226143609
>>226143644It doesn’t matter; all of that is just nonsense invented to keep people brainwashed. They’ll come up with some other piece of stupidity—I don’t know, maybe an angel tells the latest prophet that Mecca is now somewhere else, or something like that. In any case, for me, the survival of cultures—language, character, architecture—is important, but religion, not so much.
>>226143605Fremen of Dune essentially except Herbert wiped the Muslim elements and kept the Arab culture
>>226143613i dont think its gonna be racism since we'll have implants and genemods everywhere
>>226143477we already did, retardgive it another couple hundred years and even an interstellar trip is very doable, trivial even if humans become robotspeople will be motivated to escape globohomo just like settlers fled the old monarchies
people will become, like, saturnian o algo
>>226143704>trivial even if humans become robotsthat's cheating, doesn't count
>>226143675Realistically religion could probably evolve and they'd just make their own replica on their planet or yeah the solution Anon posted lol. >>226143707Mercurial, even
Humans will never colonize space.Our future AI overlords, however...
>>226143686I actually don't think languages other than english will survive (except Mandarin, probably). If you've noticed in every single country, younger generations use english loanwords and phrases. I think this is due to the internet as a whole, the more connected we are, results in a merging of language (more like engulfment than merging). The number of languages in the world has been on a steady decline for a long time, and I see no reason for the trend to stop.
>>226143312>when we colonize places far from earthIt'll never happen as long as the trips take decades and any technology making that a non-issue would also make just living in orbit around Earth a non-issue too
>>226143768true but also going to other places is cool so people will do it
>>226143768>and any technology making that a non-issue would also make just living in orbit around Earth a non-issue tooAnd? We're still in the danger zone if we base our entire species' survival around one star system, galactic quadrant even. Never mind the resource and general expansion opportunities alone that would motivate us to colonize.
>>226143717NO IT has to be a flesh machine not a metal machine !!1!pathetic.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKnAWcWnJJc
>>226143798People will play a VR game simulating those planets and workers will work in a VR simulation that controls the robots actually sent there. Absolutely no one will waste literal decades to get there whether they're sleeping or not
>>226143570they will use highly advanced mecca aligning devices for their holographic goggles
>>226143838that doesn't work unless you find a way to transmit information faster than lightultimately that's the only thing that can save us from being monoculture in the future, so more reason to leave earth.
>>226143873>>226143838Business idea: VR Mecca and Hajj for interstellar Muslim colonizers.
jews, chinese and african-americans will, nobody else will bother
>>226143838if you mean using telepresense for remote operation/training thats already a thing for these household robots and we're likely gonna see a lot of telepresense in orbit in the short term. especially since the infrastructure already exists via the starlink laser interlinks and radio links to earth.with enough training you can fully automate some things but we'll still need people to run shit that cant be automated
>>226143690serfs will have implants, citizens will be eugenically perfect from birth
>>226143895It wouldn't be anything live streamed, more like what and where to build, where to explore, where to sample, what to run experiments on. It wouldn't be different from waiting for the computers of today to finish calculating stuff
>>226143636>born too early to experience thisman
>>226144047everyone was born too early for everything and too late for the rest of everything
>>226143964would still take decades, you might as well make the machines fully autonomous.if your point is that robots will be better at exploration then that's obviously true, you can shoot a bunch of von neumann probes everywhere, but people will want to leave to escape the world government and boredom and i don't believe that will ever change, it's human nature.
>>226143312There is no colonizing other planets. We might have science bases or bases for resource extraction, but there will never be just random people living regular lives on other planets.We are stuck on Earth. A lot of people don't like to hear it but it is the truth.
>>226144064the only thing i will experience is the cognitive decline of humanity because of text generators
>>226144102dont use em, problem solved>>226144092maybe you wont
When are we going to EVROPA to find alien whales?
>>226143762That would be a bad thing, and it should be avoided. In any case, I highly doubt that English will truly become dominant; Anglo culture is totally decanted nowadays, and English does not function effectively as a language of communication—unlike what we see in India. In Japan, it is rare to find people who can actually speak English, even among the youth. I have spent time in Spain and Latin America, and hardly anyone there speaks English; the same is true for France and Germany.
>>226144253Good morning sir!
>>226143312We won't colonize places far from earth, or maybe China will. White people will be demographically replaced and they are the only ones with the drive, technological know how, and ambition for space exploration.
No other place in our solar system could support a colony that isn't reliant on Earth. This isn't Gundam where moonniggas with space magic will be able to rise up and form their own country. More likely first we get some globohomo quasi global federation like the EU is now but with the entire world as members. At that point nationalities will be less important but still exist.
>>226143312We'll never make it far from earth
>>226144253Actually it's a good thing. The purpose of language is to be mutually understood, not for you to feel inspired by it being there. We've already recorded basically all extant languages and some dead ones and they can all be revived by hobbyists or ethnic descendants whenever. Also I hate to have to tell you but every language power index puts English first, Mandarin second, Spanish a distant third.France is fairly unique in their level of monolingualism and they are beginning to worry about being relatively disconnected due to it, even on /int/, but it still holds solid. Germans are unfortunately forced through nine years of English in school and told that German is "ugly".Dutch and Tagalog were the other two colonial competitors with English and Spanish but their influence is waning.English is now used for what both French and Latin used to be used for, nearly everything of new scientific or cultural significance gets an English version published.Japan, frankly, is a tiny, isolated cultural speck when it comes to world population, and is linguistically isolated even from its neighbors to a surprising extent.
>>226144699All we need is seeds, bacteria, animals and for the planet to have native sources of oxygen, nitrogen, carbon, and useful isotopes
