Discussion concerning Higurashi, Umineko, Rose Guns Days, Higanbana, TRianThology, and all other 07th Expansion works.► 07th Expansion links: https://rentry.co/07th-expPrevious thread: >>50860361
What are the current on-going 07th projects?
>>50903799a George R. R. Martin impersonation
>>50903680Satoko is small.
>>50904524Small and Cute!
>>50903799Higurashi AI chat.Really. That’s it.
>>50903799nothingit's never been more over
>>50903799Silent hill F manga from what I heard
>Nukes flagship series with a character assassinating sequel that nearly everyone hates>Leaveswhat the fuck was his plan
>>50905088https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCf94y2cXp0
>>50906108Is morally ok if you eat human meat blessed by Nurgled, my dear shits of man.
Good newsCiconia phase 2 has a release date of May!>2020
I remember seeing an official art like that before but with Keiichi between her boobs, I believe it was a manga cover or something but I can't find it at all.Please help me anons, at this point I think I might have seen it in a dream.
>>50906108khorne burger when
>>50907478All I have is this
>>50907876I mean, popKhorne is a think, so...
>>50909913god dammit
>>50903799umineko cafehigurashi ai serviceumineko stage playsrgd english releasenot ciconia
>>50906311Wow thats right around the corner!
I love Satoko so much it hurts
Princess Satoko and Prince Keiichi getting married <3
>>50916668I feel like Rena and Shion would have become really good friends if they got the chance. Too bad they don't interact that much. They have the best fashion sense too.
>>50917437maybe that's a good thing, imagine the destruction these two would cause if they linked up
Not WTC but play Witch and the Hundred Knight if you like the cruel witch part of Umineko.VN/Action game kino. Great Witch Metallica and all the witches from their big senate would fit in Umi.
>The instant the palm of my hand touched her head... as if flinging off a snake trying to cling to her, as if trying to throw away something dirty, she threw it violently.Why did Sakoto throw up after K1's dirty snake touched her head
She threw off his hand dumbass
>>50917915Nope, she threw his arm.
Happy children's day
>>50903799New Ciconia will be announced in two more weeks....
I wasn't expecting this. wtf?
>>50921311i dont remember this i read the vn in japanese so maybe this segment was worded somewhat differently. what episode are you on?
>>50921349Episode 2, the next line is something like "he (Battler's father) didn't want to look weak in front of the others by taking his wife's advice", the scene before Rosa met with with Beatrice.Higurashi's switch language was such a great feature, too bad I can't do it as easily here.
>>50921381yeah no wonder i didnt remember lol its an ep2 thing. yeah the multi language features in higu and umi are really useful, i dont think id be able to read it the way i am now if it werent for that being there (og sprites + voice acting + nihongo) even if it is somewhat mostly the 07th mod's doing. besides that how is your umi read so far? if you have any theories id like to hear them
>>50921403I didn't like episode 1 that much, but this one is much better so far. Still not as good as higurashi though, but I should stop comparing them at this point because of how different they are. The main difference is that higurashi took a small set of character, made them very likeable quickly before the serious parts in the second half, umineko 1 on the hand took a large cast and didn't give them enough development and as a result it didn't hit as hard. This episode does everything that I wanted the first episode to do, gave moments to some characters that made me more connected to them. Rosa in particular is interesting to me now because she looks influenced by what ryukishi had in mind for Satoko's mother. My other favorites are Shanon because she is cute, or Maria because she is also cute and gave me good bible black vibes and has a good black Hanekawa laugh.>TheoriesNot much really. It seems that episode 1 wanted me to believe that Beatrice did it in order to get revived, which makes it obviously false and also doesn't make sense why we are repeating everything again if she achieved what she wanted, and her desire for Battler to believe her isn't enough reason. There is also the fact that Battler's father told him that he is probably going to die before everything started, and his wife didn't react much to it and seemed to me she was trying to distract Battler from it, so she might be onboard too. Battler (more like ryukishi making him) forgetting about it later entirely is a proof of its significance. There might be another case of fake body here, Battler even suspects it at some point and he might be right but that limits the number of people who can prepare a body on an isolated island, so I don't know. I believe there were fake deaths but I am not sure which ones. So basically I don't think I have enough clues yet and didn't think much about it.
>>50921311it's a pretty big thing that the ushiromiya family is rather 'traditional' and sees women as being lesser than men, it's just that rudolf is pretty aware that he really isn't nearly as logical and intelligent as his wife so even he sees it as being a little worthless to pretend he's better than her
>>50923620Yeah his reasoning is understandable specially with everything presented in episode 1, but it doesn't feel right that the character that likes to appear very manly would word it like that (although one could argue it was the narrator's words, but still everything stands), specially that the scene has no purpose other than to force a conversation between her and Rosa which doesn't seem to provide much.
Love the smell of Umineko in the morning.
>>50918941Rika and Satoko are so perfect, I love them.
moribund franchise....
>>50903680Am trying to start Uminekohttps://nyaa.si/view/1325411is this the latest and best version? I saw one in your OP's link, are they the same? I would like to use the Nyaa version if possible and they aren't different. Also, I saw on VNDB that someone is making a new patch with more QoL stuff, should I wait for it or it doesn't really matter?
>>50925058I am playing it right now and I am using that same link. Speaking from my experience, if there is someone more knowledgeable correct me please.If you want to play with the umineko project, go for it and download the latest patch from their website, it will just work.If you want to play it with 07th mod (for og sprites and other things), then I am not sure if you can apply it here. I didn't try since this one seemed already good enough for me and I didn't want to bother with any extra setup.There was a spreadsheet somewhere with the differences between them, you can look at it and decide which one to go with. If you choose the 07th mod it might be better to find another link.Looking at vndb history of the release you mentioned, its last update was in last August. I wouldn't wait for something that might never come out, but you can ask in their discord if you want to. The mod seems to be improvement for the umineko project, so if you are going with the 07th mod it shouldn't matter for you, and what it adds doesn't seem that interesting to me to wait for.
>>50925058The best English version is to emulate the Switch version with a translation patch found here: https://andolga.github.io/umineko-catbox-english/It has more content than any other version of Umineko, featuring adaptations of almost every piece of bonus material in the series' history, although you only unlock it after finishing the main series. This is the only console release with this content, and it contains some content even the original PC bonus content releases don't have.It also has the best visuals, in particular this actually has some differences from the popular 07th Mod and Umineko Project versions, as they both base their work on the PS3 version where this has new assets those versions don't, and not just for the bonus content. The people at 07th Mod straight up recommend you use the switch version instead unless you REALLY want original sprites.This version also has the best translation. The bonus content translations are from various scattered sources so they're not as clean, but the main series uses a revised version of UmiPro's TL, which is the better TL because it has more consistent terminology due to being made when the entire series was already finished, rather than having to adapt to new episodes like the official Witch Hunt TL did. This is particularly important in a series as long, and detail oriented, as Umineko is.Before you worry about censorship, don't worry. It's literally impossible to play Umineko in English with censorship, because the censorship in the console releases is so minor and easy to revert that every single English release does so. There's minor version differences like the console versions having a couple of slightly different tracks, but there's no censorship compared to the shamefully butchered Higurashi console releases.
>>50926562Thanks for the response!>featuring adaptations of almost every piece of bonus material in the series' historyAre they written by R07 or like the Higurashi console arcs? + is there really no chance at all to do the sprites swapping thingy that was in Higurashi's 07th Mod here?
Keiichis wife is so beautiful...
Which kakera is this?
>>50926562What is censored about Higurashi?
>>50908198Unfortunately Hanyuu doesn't do it for me sexually, and I can't self insert as Rika.Interesting artstyle though despite the wrong eye colors.
>>50928846The forgotten one
>>50934410
Comteniark post your 'cord handle so we can reconnect like the old days.
>>50905088Marge, I'm confused.
Artist is a faggot for deleting the lewder versions of this.
>>50936077did he? good thing i saved them thenhttps://files.catbox.moe/lj0yyt.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/cy2nl5.jpg
>>50936077It doesn't look very good honestly
>>50936272Is that a...!!!
I had a dream that I was living in India with Battler
>>50903680>10 days>only 69 postsJesus, this place is super omega hyper dead.RIP
>>50937017>>50937020CUTEEEEE <3
Satoko is canonically got the least chance to end up with K1. R07 wants her to be with Rika, K1 is for Mion/Rena. Satoko got a better chance ending up with Ooishi, another character that we see not having any ship than she is with K1 who only showed those emotions to Rena mostly.
>Satoko is blah blah blah Read the VN before posting next time faggot
>>50938602>K1 is for Mion/Renaexcept R07 hasn't put him with either of them in any of the latest stories eitherbe consistent with your logic when you're trying to bait shipfag arguments, please
K1>Mion or Hanyuu (make them fight for it)>Rena>Rika>Chie>Shion>Takano>Akane>Satoko>Rina
Keiichi x Satoko > Keiichi x Shion > Keiichi x Rena > Keiichi x Rika > Keiichi x Hanyuu > Keiichi x Mion
>Mion got a better chance ending up with OoishiFixed that for you.
>>50938706Keiichi x Satoko could work, but I'm not a fan of shipping art that uses her 11 year old design. In the actual novel, Keiichi sees her too much as a little sister to protect, as she isn't a "woman" yet. I don't get the impression that Keiichi is a lolicon either. If she came on to him as Sextoko, maybe it could work. Shion is canon either way, though.
>K1 x HanyuuYou can't be serious, they barely even interact>>50938706Anon, at this I am curious what do you have against Mion and her ship?
I wish it was me
>>50938602We're talking about oldkishi07 right? Cause nukishi07 just wants everyone to suffer and maybe some yandereyuriwitchbait for cheap attention etc.Old Ryu has said a bunch of stuff about the ships and how K1 can end up with anyone possibly I think but the 2015 panel I like to reference it sounds like he won't make RiKei a thing cause HE'd get jealous lol.
https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000001413.000050711.htmlSilent Hill f hit 2 million in sales.
>>50939734It's what she deserves.
>>50938620>心の底から、幸せそうに笑ってるレナが、俺は大好きだぜHoly shit Keiichi confessed his love to Rena?>私は今でも、礼奈のことが大好きだからAnd Nagisa did as well, I guess her being lesbian is deeplore or something>それはとっても素敵だと思うし、少なくとも私は、そんなあなたが大好きBut wait, Tomoe also confessed her love to Nagisa here, so it must be a lesbian love triangle. Also interesting lore that Tomoe is a pedophileOr maybe [何々]が大好き has a wide range of meaning and doesn't necessarily refer to romantic love
>>50936168thanks anon, I thought I was gonna lose it XD
>>50939487I somewhat agree with your post, Keiichi x Satoko is something that would for sure happen when they're a little bit older due to a number of reasons. The Nii-Nii larp is honestly the number 1 thing that is going to keep them from being really honest about their feelings for one another due to the fear of breaking what they already have by wanting more thus hurting the other. But as the years pass by and with Satoshi either coming back and forcing the Nii-Nii larp to end forcing them to really understand their feelings for each other or with them reaching a boiling point where they can no longer stand to keep up the charade of nothing more than just pretend siblings. We see in Tatarigoroshi when they're pushed to their absolute limits they WILL be more open and honest about their feelings, and unless it's forced upon them it's gonna take years for them to reach that point. >Shion is canon either way, though.I enjoy Keiichi x Shion as an alternative to Satokei in the world where Satoshi and Satoko are both DEAD alongside everyone else (Tatarigoroshi esque worlds) and they have no choice but to help each other overcome their issues or both die from insanity.
>>50939734I don't hate Mion, I just don't think her ship with Keiichi is anywhere near intresting enough to be taken seriously and 99% of her fans are just retarded tomboy fags who wish they could fuck her. She got mega cucked in her arcs and portrayed as a crybaby sobbing to Rena about Keiichi in order to have her stand aside and pales in comparison to Shion in terms of being intresting. But I don't hate her and enjoy her character in the SOL scenes
>>50943008Shipments =/= salesEnjoy rotting in a warehouse kek
>>50943396>This dumbass post>AgainEnjoy my copy pasted response faggotThat's why context is important you seething tranny, Satoko is LITERALLY confessing all of her deepest secrets in this scene and this comes right after her telling Keiichi that she knew he could never be her Nii-Nii or replace Satoshi. If you honestly believe that the last words a girl who's completely vulnerable and is expressing her deepest secrets would be "I-I loved you K1... only as a friend though teehee" then you're actually autistic as fuck. The scene and context proves beyond a doubt it's a tragic final confession of hidden romantic love
>>50944380ah yes, rotting in the Steam warehouse
>>50944364God, Jirou Suzuki's art style was so fucking weak for one of the best WTC arcs.
>>50944378>tomboy fags who wish they could fuck herWhy is this an issue? It's her archetype, just like how Rena is an airhead or how Satoko is a tsundere imouto, they have more than that but so does Mion. And shipping is entangled with waifuism, so I don't see a problem with wanting to fuck Mion.
>>50944449Steam shipments?
>>50944406Loved you as a brother, and hate you now
I played and finished Higurashi, just the main 8 arcs. Love Hanyu. Is it worth playing the other routes?
>>50946109Yes. The Kizunanarcs were pretty dope, though there's not much mystery once you played through the OG 8
>>50946074Weird reason to stutter.
>>50946074>he loves a manGay
>>50944380Shipment is what publishers report since it's what they're selling. It could be an issue if this were the initial shipment that hadn't gone anywhere, but we first had the one million shipment shortly after launch, and now it's 2 million, so copies are definitely moving.
>>50946109Rei, Saikoroshi-hen is a must.
https://anilist.co/manga/157604/Higurashi-no-Naku-Koro-ni-Anthology-Novel/Am doing a marathon of all the manga from R07 written before Umineko, I couldn't find this one online, does anyone know where I can find it?
>>50946426true, usually one is calm when declaring their hatred for a person they thought would protect them and love them like family....
>>50903680Anyone knows which of these manga were actually written by Ryukishi? I don't want to read some random guys' fanficshttps://www.mangaupdates.com/author/oorlkpq/ryukishi-07?orderby=year
>>50927372Unlike Higurashi, Umineko's bonus content is all written by R07, and takes the form of a collection of short stories of varying tones rather than full length arcs. If you combined all of the series' bonus materials it would be roughly equivalent to a ninth Episode worth of content. I'd say most of it is worth reading, although I would also look into reading it in release order via youtube videos in between episodes, as in the game itself you don't unlock them all until you finish the series, even though that's not how they were written.>>50930393genuinely so much more than you can possibly imagine. If I hadn't compared the scripts granularly myself I wouldn't believe how absurd it was. Anything that so much as gestures in the direction of criticising governmental institutions, child protection services, or even just acknowledging history, is shamelessly removed. Tons of vocabulary is changed to be less "violent" such as hatchets becoming axes(?) and swamps becoming bogs(?). Abuse is significantly censored. Sexual allusions of any kind, whether it be jokes between the club or acknowledging that Satoko is a victim of sexual violence, is censored. It's genuinely insane just how fucking butchered Higurashi is, particularly in Tatarigoroshi, Minagoroshi and Matsuribayashi, but please understand that the censorship is extremely prevelant throughout the entire series and somehow is still only one of several massive reasons why nobody should ever, EVER read the actual console versions of Higurashi, and stick to 07th Mod instead.
>>50949135She goes on a philippic with an entire flashback narration but only stutters at the word love, crazy how that happens.
>>50949138The broad story outline is him but I'm pretty sure people think the manga adaptions are pretty bad.You want to read the VNs. Higanbana and RGD are really good.
>>50949177Almost like that's the most important aspect that summarizes her entire monologue or something....
>>50949138This was written by Ryukishi and takes place after the main 8 arcs https://www.mangaupdates.com/series/p4nwhfu/higurashi-no-naku-koro-ni-kokoro-iyashi-hen
>>50949171>acknowledging that Satoko is a victim of sexual violenceKill yourself
>>50946074>>50949135>>50949538Satoko canonically confessed her love to Keiichi and still loves him even in the very end of the chapter to the point she refuses to believe that her delusion about Keiichi trying to kill her was real and that it was merely a demon taking the form of her most beloved. Cope and seethe troon
Does anyone know of the book this illustration comes from? can't find it for the life of me.
>>50950408Why would anyone event want these illustrations
>>50950424its funny that its official art
>>50950408Pedo shit.
>>50950424Because no everyone's gay>>50950446>pedowatanagashi yourself, retard
>>50949138OnisarashiYoigoshiKokoroiyashiRei OniokoshiRei HoshiwatashiRei IrotoutoshiGouMeguriAre all by R07. Although generally with manga he just writes a "general storyline" and the artist has to flesh it out, like explained here.Yoigoshi is the big exception, where r07's original story was published separately and it goes almost panel by panel, with the artist just adding some minor comments and flourishes. In spite of that though, that original story itself has some elements that lead to the conclusion that feel really off.And for Gou/Meguri, R07 actually wrote the story for the Gou/Sotsu anime and the manga is just reusing that and doings its own thing later on, he didn't write for the manga directly.
Are there manga-only Umineko arcs or side stories?
>>50950908Kokoroiyashi was also written fully by him though
>>50950951>Forgery of the Purple LogicNew arc with Battler vs Beatrice but with a new rule, "Purple" truth.It was really a marketing gimmick where the story ends without a real conclusion and readers were meant to send the answer to Kadokawa, but for whatever reason they pretty much aborted the contest, and there was no definitive official answer ever given.>Umineko no Naku Party niComedic 4koma manga about Lambda suddenly deciding to move in to the Golden Land between episodes 3 and 4, although it just keeps kind of moving forward and eventually you get characters from episodes 5 and 6. There's a kind of serious story near the ending, but it's actually more focused on Bernkastel since it's clear even the manga's author didn't have access to info about Lambda's true identity.The compiled volume added a short story you might have seen elsewhere where Lambda explodes, her hat disappears she's replaced by Miyoko while her soul is lost among the fragments for a while.Both were just supervised by Ryukishi/07th Expansion though, not even initial story concept by R07.
>>50949138I never read any of the VN manga adaptions, but Hotarubi is his best original manga work.
>>50951233If you don't wanna read the manga adaptations (you should, they're usually great, although Onikakushi is notably one of the least good ones), try reading the manga original arcs for Higurashi! it's a nice middle ground.
>>50950408I don't think it was ever scanned unfortunately.
>>50950408Estonia bbikini.
>>50952130Batsugemu da yo, Mion's face says it all. For someone who likes to humiliate Keiichi so much, she is weak against it.
>>50946109I want to fuck her ass
>>50959795Yeah
I want to brutally rape Rika
I want to brutally make sweet love to Rika
