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>>50989905I've seen theories but at the same time I don't buy them, I feel like it's all just a big coincidence
First for my wife
>>50989913>>50989914Noooooooo
https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000000657.000052709.htmlMiku 20th anniversary design contest results are out. Very royal.
Now that vocadb is pozzed, whats a good alternative?
>>50990029what
>>50990000My wife is not included...
>>50989914>>50989918>>50990080Wholoid lol
kagome kagome https://youtu.be/WyIPswE_FwM
>>50990212
https://youtu.be/bY4JAa_vPVA
https://youtu.be/SpEwrd8PV3cTeto Liar Game opening cover.
oji-san 2 dropping soonhttps://x.com/yoshimotoojisan/status/2060300125386248482
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nnd3hQizf9EPinata is using the Dark Cult Priest Teto again.
>>50990435https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gNF2P2-quAAnother person did a Teto Liar Game OP cover and released it at literally the exact same time.
>AISkipped entirely
>>50990712If it was IA instead, would you watch, Mikubro?
>>50990753If it was made with love, I'd listen to it for sure.
>>50990765Yay!
>>50986167>i think your work is great so listen to my boomer rant.thanks fren i'll add subtitles next time,i think sv1 is one of the more understandable talkloids but still makes sense to add subs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRSfnD3k_ts
>went from a powerhouse featured in countless songs to a wholoid with next to no presenceabsolutely heartbreaking
>>50991104What is she doing here
>>50990212>>50991104Sad indeed.
>>50991104>>50991593Unironically it's because she has no character or real meme songs or even just memes in general. Following from that discussion in the previous thread. Vocaloids as characters serve as blank templates/canvases to warp and do whatever with, but IA has absolutely nothing to give her template any flair to incentivize using it as a starting point. It's not the blank template in a word document, it's one of those obscure ones to the right that you don't know what's for and don't ever have any reason to use. One of the most "she existed" vocaloids out there. It's arguably more sad to get popular then fall off over just being a wholoid in general.
>>50992224Ironically I feel like that's why Adachi Rei is so popular right now. UTAUs tend to have canon personalities and gimmicks. When you combine a unique vocal type with both that and the ability to monetize, producers jump on it.
>>50992480Robot also offers a lot more meme possibilities than kuudere. Which is ironic since they're all already sort of robots. However Rei's a real life robot. A robot robot. A double robot if you will.
New Mellowcle feat Mikuhttps://youtu.be/_f_fyn2kaEE
sasuke's isan album releasedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X04R-YC3QLM
>>50992480>>50992516defokobros...
I'm obsessed with this song currently.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOU5kJvcTv8
>>50992224She does have a character, if you search through some voiceroid stuff you can find some. All of her fans have a tacit understanding of what kind of character she is, with some believable variants. Even in some official music videos and concerts where she actually appears you can see First Place tried to give her a character. It's just that she never really took off because all of her popular songs do not feature her as a character. No one big wanted to adopt her character. It's a similar issue with flower and arguably Kafu as well. But unlike flower or Kafu, IA grew up when vocaloid was at it's worst point in history. Kagepro hype peaked around 2015 together with the birth of Orangestar, and since then she was truly big. Unfortunately, those were Vocaloid's weakest years which only recovered around Covid (2019-2020), but by that point flower provided some serious competition and she eventually fell off. People may not realize it, but IA was a twilight idol. A star in the lonely void. She was there when most people stopped caring. I am here to remind people of it.
>>50991593Source?
anybody else have a good algorithm and wanna click this on their homefeed? probably better than ur own "curation" on what you think you like. in a sense.
>>50992989
>>50992857>She does have a character, if you search through some voiceroid stuff you can find someit doesn't permeate at all, though. not that no one wanted to adopt a character, it's more like no one could find any character at all. and whatever character there is, it doesn't really fit the visual design
>>50993003I'm saying it doesn't permeate because no one big is promoting her, on top of the fact that her popularity is during vocaloid's worst years. Just because her character isn't popular doesn't mean it doesn't exist. A character that doesn't exist would be the silhouetteloids, and she simply isn't one. I'm not sure what you mean by not fitting the visual design, I think it fits her well and her character.You'll understand what I mean if you're part of the few people deep in her fanbase. I notice they're mostly Japanese though, and I think it's because IA just was never popular in the west despite the international concerts. I vaguely remember some few hundred thousand view songs with comments that are exclusively in Japanese and a VocaDB entry with 2 like or so. She may be the weakest member in the Special Relief Committee but the fact that she's there is proof enough that people (at least the Japanese) cared about her and some still do. 32ki bought her voicebank after all.
>>50993024>Just because her character isn't popular doesn't mean it doesn't exist.>You'll understand what I mean if you're part of the few people deep in her fanbase.it might as well not exist if you have to dig deep to find it
>>50993052Oh I'll give you that, but I'm saying it's a cruel cycle. She has a character but it is obscure, so she needs someone big to adopt her, but how can someone adopt her if they don't know anything about her?The only solution to this would be if that certain someone really likes her as a character and also happens to be really big. Unfortunately, I find it is usually one or the other.
>>50992870Found it on:>https://kemono cr/fanbox/user/98692256/post/10810951But can no longer download it from there for some reason so have the other one.>>50992857>She does have a characterAnd First Place gives her a run-of-the-mill airhead/ethereal type of peersonality so it never catche on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xl9ygHR9MxMMiku doesn't do well in horror scenarios it seems.
>>50993148>>https://kemono cr/fanbox/user/98692256/post/10810951Thank you>And First Place gives her a run-of-the-mill airhead/ethereal type of peersonality so it never catche on.It's more like they didn't push that hard enough when they had the chance. I mean, I'm not the only one out there (yet) who really loves her, and I daresay they are even more autistic about her than me (I need to do better lol). There isn't anything inherently wrong with her character in my opinion, a lot of her problems can be attributed to First Place mismanagement, among other things.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKZIQlqVjjkThe Trap Chick genie Teto Una song. Feels a bit half baked in my opinion.
>>50993173That's a surprisingly cute song for a horror theme.
Thinking about it some more. I think the greatest strength isn't having character, it's having no character. Which in turn becomes every character. IA suffers from having a bland character, not no character at all. Miku as the normal blank template means she's gone nearly the entire range from insane comedic meme songs to extremely depressing and everything in between. What makes Kasane Teto insane is she's somehow filling every gap Miku didn't manage to fill as well as everything being a duo partner covers. From the last couple of weeks alone>Miku's challenger>gay budding love interest>dog thief>zombie killing flash game like clone death march gauntlet>dark priest/AI standin>cute genieTeto's somehow gotten a lot of the more masculine and straightman roles when foiling, but can trivially become feminine or comedic to flip to the other side of things. Truly an every character. Honestly, probably the most impactful thing to ever happen for Teto's success was possibly Channel putting her in pants and suspenders for Mesmerizer. Teto's original character isn't really much of anything being a fake Miku knockoff made from April Fools, however that ended up branching out in many different ways. A direct copy, a fake lamenting being a copy, a gag character/comedian, a rival, a supporter, a foil, a love interest, and really, anything that can pair with Miku. Inversely, anything somebody like Miku would pair with which is what makes her range so extreme. I'm not sure what I would peg Teto's character as anymore. Nor could I Miku besides generic idol which is not what people do with her.The problem in the end is people didn't experiment or meme with IA and what little character she does have constrains her. If you imagined a crazy ass meme song with her, what would she be like in it?
>>50993828>IA suffers from having a bland characterHighly subjective. If you don't like her, you can just say it, you know.>what little character she does have constrains her>what would she be like in it?She can be literally anything? She isn't artificially limited. There's nothing saying IA can't be memed, it's all limited by the producer's imagination, like any other loid. She doesn't have Fukase levels of permissions so you can use her however you want.Cynical critic (a classic, btw)>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aT2wVgoBH28Detective IA vs Yukari>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ui27ZDAYLMYMecha anime protagonist>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUisWxrrqmEEroge main love interest>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JL-yKhWqngShe's a cyborg in this one apparently, but also a detective>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGBHfHYW6v8She's a fairy of spring in this one, she loves (You) through time and space (another classic)>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g--Qmi048Vwand the sequel>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XL9XRgOPXQoCat owner (only at the end though)>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZ5OmwkaIC4Not really playing a character but there's some humor in Ishifuro's IA like in this one>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVYT34fwF5AThere's whatever the fuck this is>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJ_p4nActyoThen there's all of the group songs from Hitoshizuku-P>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiEC329xPos>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rg5r1k-pZGU>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0GrJUh-hz8Finally, succubus IA (and friends)>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lISOEqgYwoAs you can see, it is true she isn't "memed" a lot but can you really call her bland and limiting when people have used her in a variety of ways? As I already said, she fell off during a period where character songs just weren't commonly done so even with most of these she never really stuck with people.
>>50993931I'm going to say, she's a bit typecast and I wouldn't put much into non-starring NPC filler roles.
https://www.vocaloid.com/anniversary/voicebank/Neat page.
>>50994894I don't see it, honestly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcFJnrDIfoYTeto watching a Parade.
>>50994894That's kind of what I feel. I can't imagine her with a personality other than calm and mysterious because that's how artists usually depict her.
>>50995531Not always though
Ratatata
>>50995674https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5lhm-7ZUK4
Do you feel old?
>>50995682https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQmYZWjLwzw
>>50993174>a lot of her problems can be attributed to First Place mismanagementWord.>>50993931Good stuff.
>>50995683Compared to the average ages of most popular new vocaloid producers, Deco and Pino kinda started/blew up a bit late, which makes it more impressive they've had the longevity they've had
>>50994914Nice, proof that anything after V4 is literal slop.
>>50994914wtf
>>50995683The average Western producer seems to start producing at 13-15, so seeing how late Deco and Pino-P started surprised meThe only thing that really makes me feel old is looking at the age of certain songs I grew up listening to or knew the producers of, then comparing it to the community now
>>50995839Not that I disagree, but why?
>>50995884>ugly western artstyle>doesn't look moe>no character backstory>japanese/chinese ones look like gacha characters>generic AI TTS like voiceetc.
>>50995920Fair enough
I like when you look up TOS for either USTs or UTAUs from the English community and it starts off normal then quickly becomes insane
>>50996080Age is just a fucking number man, why are they so obsessed about it? They are singing robots.
>>50996080>understandable utau to dislike>literal who>least known wholoid of the V3 eraI'm curious as to why this person dislikes Clara specifically but not Bruno or Maika
>>50995683>>50995738this don't prove shit. they probably learned instruments and/or singing really young before using vocaloid because vocaloid literally barely existed before 2010.This makes "late bloomers/late practicers" (you know, that feeling like when u see a 50 year old in college) feel the worst. It feels like anybody plays their instrument since they were 9 or 14. All I did was play games.Don't give me either brain chemistry crap nor reminding me the present is a gift.>>50996080it doesn't get as insane as you might think it is but the tone is like literal 12 y/o child police lol. unprofessionalism doesn't make people take you seriously in the first place. also they seem paranoid-ish.But a midi is insane to police anyway i am confused a little
>>50996102kid brain -> underdeveloped mind -> no critical thinking>>50996157>tone is like literal 12 y/o child police; unprofessionalism doesn't make people take you seriously in the first placethis. and the vocaloid scene today are full of people like these for some reason. i've even seen some "adults" on twitter siding with these children also. actual echo chamber
>>50996129Clara reminds him of his annoying latina stepmom lol
>>50996157>It feels like anybody plays their instrument since they were 9 or 14. All I did was play games.it's a(n asian) parenting thing. children are sent to music lessons as soon as they are physically able to handle an instrument and before being able to reject their parents' suggestions.
Post funny covershttps://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm12451977https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm15056263
>>50996157>>50996189The most surprising part is the person who the TOS belongs to is in their mid 20s and they've been in the community for about a decade.
>>50996080>Claralol what did she do for this guy to dislike her this much
