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>>50989905
I've seen theories but at the same time I don't buy them, I feel like it's all just a big coincidence
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>>50989914
Noooooooo
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https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000000657.000052709.html
Miku 20th anniversary design contest results are out. Very royal.
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Now that vocadb is pozzed, whats a good alternative?
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>>50990029
what
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>>50990000
My wife is not included...
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>>50989914
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>>50990080
Wholoid lol
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kagome kagome https://youtu.be/WyIPswE_FwM
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>>50990212
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https://youtu.be/bY4JAa_vPVA
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https://youtu.be/SpEwrd8PV3c
Teto Liar Game opening cover.
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oji-san 2 dropping soon
https://x.com/yoshimotoojisan/status/2060300125386248482
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nnd3hQizf9E
Pinata is using the Dark Cult Priest Teto again.
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>>50990435
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gNF2P2-quA
Another person did a Teto Liar Game OP cover and released it at literally the exact same time.
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>AI
Skipped entirely
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>>50990712
If it was IA instead, would you watch, Mikubro?
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>>50990753
If it was made with love, I'd listen to it for sure.
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>>50990765
Yay!
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>>50986167
>i think your work is great so listen to my boomer rant.
thanks fren i'll add subtitles next time,i think sv1 is one of the more understandable talkloids but still makes sense to add subs
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>went from a powerhouse featured in countless songs to a wholoid with next to no presence
absolutely heartbreaking
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>>50991104
What is she doing here
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>>50990212
>>50991104
Sad indeed.
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>>50991104
>>50991593
Unironically it's because she has no character or real meme songs or even just memes in general. Following from that discussion in the previous thread. Vocaloids as characters serve as blank templates/canvases to warp and do whatever with, but IA has absolutely nothing to give her template any flair to incentivize using it as a starting point. It's not the blank template in a word document, it's one of those obscure ones to the right that you don't know what's for and don't ever have any reason to use. One of the most "she existed" vocaloids out there. It's arguably more sad to get popular then fall off over just being a wholoid in general.
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>>50992224
Ironically I feel like that's why Adachi Rei is so popular right now. UTAUs tend to have canon personalities and gimmicks. When you combine a unique vocal type with both that and the ability to monetize, producers jump on it.
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>>50992480
Robot also offers a lot more meme possibilities than kuudere. Which is ironic since they're all already sort of robots. However Rei's a real life robot. A robot robot. A double robot if you will.
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New Mellowcle feat Miku

https://youtu.be/_f_fyn2kaEE
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sasuke's isan album released
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X04R-YC3QLM
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>>50992480
>>50992516
defokobros...
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I'm obsessed with this song currently.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOU5kJvcTv8
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>>50992224
She does have a character, if you search through some voiceroid stuff you can find some. All of her fans have a tacit understanding of what kind of character she is, with some believable variants. Even in some official music videos and concerts where she actually appears you can see First Place tried to give her a character. It's just that she never really took off because all of her popular songs do not feature her as a character. No one big wanted to adopt her character. It's a similar issue with flower and arguably Kafu as well. But unlike flower or Kafu, IA grew up when vocaloid was at it's worst point in history. Kagepro hype peaked around 2015 together with the birth of Orangestar, and since then she was truly big. Unfortunately, those were Vocaloid's weakest years which only recovered around Covid (2019-2020), but by that point flower provided some serious competition and she eventually fell off. People may not realize it, but IA was a twilight idol. A star in the lonely void. She was there when most people stopped caring. I am here to remind people of it.
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>>50991593
Source?
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anybody else have a good algorithm and wanna click this on their homefeed? probably better than ur own "curation" on what you think you like. in a sense.
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>>50992989
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>>50992857
>She does have a character, if you search through some voiceroid stuff you can find some
it doesn't permeate at all, though. not that no one wanted to adopt a character, it's more like no one could find any character at all. and whatever character there is, it doesn't really fit the visual design
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>>50993003
I'm saying it doesn't permeate because no one big is promoting her, on top of the fact that her popularity is during vocaloid's worst years. Just because her character isn't popular doesn't mean it doesn't exist. A character that doesn't exist would be the silhouetteloids, and she simply isn't one. I'm not sure what you mean by not fitting the visual design, I think it fits her well and her character.
You'll understand what I mean if you're part of the few people deep in her fanbase. I notice they're mostly Japanese though, and I think it's because IA just was never popular in the west despite the international concerts. I vaguely remember some few hundred thousand view songs with comments that are exclusively in Japanese and a VocaDB entry with 2 like or so. She may be the weakest member in the Special Relief Committee but the fact that she's there is proof enough that people (at least the Japanese) cared about her and some still do. 32ki bought her voicebank after all.
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>>50993024
>Just because her character isn't popular doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
>You'll understand what I mean if you're part of the few people deep in her fanbase.
it might as well not exist if you have to dig deep to find it
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>>50993052
Oh I'll give you that, but I'm saying it's a cruel cycle. She has a character but it is obscure, so she needs someone big to adopt her, but how can someone adopt her if they don't know anything about her?
The only solution to this would be if that certain someone really likes her as a character and also happens to be really big. Unfortunately, I find it is usually one or the other.
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>>50992870
Found it on:
>https://kemono cr/fanbox/user/98692256/post/10810951
But can no longer download it from there for some reason so have the other one.

>>50992857
>She does have a character
And First Place gives her a run-of-the-mill airhead/ethereal type of peersonality so it never catche on.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xl9ygHR9MxM
Miku doesn't do well in horror scenarios it seems.
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>>50993148
>>https://kemono cr/fanbox/user/98692256/post/10810951
Thank you
>And First Place gives her a run-of-the-mill airhead/ethereal type of peersonality so it never catche on.
It's more like they didn't push that hard enough when they had the chance. I mean, I'm not the only one out there (yet) who really loves her, and I daresay they are even more autistic about her than me (I need to do better lol). There isn't anything inherently wrong with her character in my opinion, a lot of her problems can be attributed to First Place mismanagement, among other things.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKZIQlqVjjk
The Trap Chick genie Teto Una song. Feels a bit half baked in my opinion.
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>>50993173
That's a surprisingly cute song for a horror theme.
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Thinking about it some more. I think the greatest strength isn't having character, it's having no character. Which in turn becomes every character. IA suffers from having a bland character, not no character at all. Miku as the normal blank template means she's gone nearly the entire range from insane comedic meme songs to extremely depressing and everything in between. What makes Kasane Teto insane is she's somehow filling every gap Miku didn't manage to fill as well as everything being a duo partner covers.

From the last couple of weeks alone
>Miku's challenger
>gay budding love interest
>dog thief
>zombie killing flash game like clone death march gauntlet
>dark priest/AI standin
>cute genie
Teto's somehow gotten a lot of the more masculine and straightman roles when foiling, but can trivially become feminine or comedic to flip to the other side of things. Truly an every character. Honestly, probably the most impactful thing to ever happen for Teto's success was possibly Channel putting her in pants and suspenders for Mesmerizer. Teto's original character isn't really much of anything being a fake Miku knockoff made from April Fools, however that ended up branching out in many different ways. A direct copy, a fake lamenting being a copy, a gag character/comedian, a rival, a supporter, a foil, a love interest, and really, anything that can pair with Miku. Inversely, anything somebody like Miku would pair with which is what makes her range so extreme. I'm not sure what I would peg Teto's character as anymore. Nor could I Miku besides generic idol which is not what people do with her.

The problem in the end is people didn't experiment or meme with IA and what little character she does have constrains her. If you imagined a crazy ass meme song with her, what would she be like in it?
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>>50993828
>IA suffers from having a bland character
Highly subjective. If you don't like her, you can just say it, you know.

>what little character she does have constrains her
>what would she be like in it?
She can be literally anything? She isn't artificially limited. There's nothing saying IA can't be memed, it's all limited by the producer's imagination, like any other loid. She doesn't have Fukase levels of permissions so you can use her however you want.

Cynical critic (a classic, btw)
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aT2wVgoBH28

Detective IA vs Yukari
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ui27ZDAYLMY

Mecha anime protagonist
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUisWxrrqmE

Eroge main love interest
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JL-yKhWqng

She's a cyborg in this one apparently, but also a detective
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGBHfHYW6v8

She's a fairy of spring in this one, she loves (You) through time and space (another classic)
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g--Qmi048Vw
and the sequel
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XL9XRgOPXQo

Cat owner (only at the end though)
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZ5OmwkaIC4

Not really playing a character but there's some humor in Ishifuro's IA like in this one
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVYT34fwF5A

There's whatever the fuck this is
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJ_p4nActyo

Then there's all of the group songs from Hitoshizuku-P
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiEC329xPos
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rg5r1k-pZGU
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0GrJUh-hz8

Finally, succubus IA (and friends)
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lISOEqgYwo

As you can see, it is true she isn't "memed" a lot but can you really call her bland and limiting when people have used her in a variety of ways? As I already said, she fell off during a period where character songs just weren't commonly done so even with most of these she never really stuck with people.
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>>50993931
I'm going to say, she's a bit typecast and I wouldn't put much into non-starring NPC filler roles.
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https://www.vocaloid.com/anniversary/voicebank/
Neat page.
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>>50994894
I don't see it, honestly.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcFJnrDIfoY
Teto watching a Parade.
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>>50994894
That's kind of what I feel. I can't imagine her with a personality other than calm and mysterious because that's how artists usually depict her.
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>>50995531
Not always though
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Ratatata
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>>50995674
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5lhm-7ZUK4
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Do you feel old?
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>>50995682
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQmYZWjLwzw
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>>50993174
>a lot of her problems can be attributed to First Place mismanagement
Word.

>>50993931
Good stuff.
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>>50995683
Compared to the average ages of most popular new vocaloid producers, Deco and Pino kinda started/blew up a bit late, which makes it more impressive they've had the longevity they've had
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>>50994914
Nice, proof that anything after V4 is literal slop.
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>>50994914
wtf
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>>50995683
The average Western producer seems to start producing at 13-15, so seeing how late Deco and Pino-P started surprised me
The only thing that really makes me feel old is looking at the age of certain songs I grew up listening to or knew the producers of, then comparing it to the community now
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>>50995839
Not that I disagree, but why?
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>>50995884
>ugly western artstyle
>doesn't look moe
>no character backstory
>japanese/chinese ones look like gacha characters
>generic AI TTS like voice
etc.
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>>50995920
Fair enough
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I like when you look up TOS for either USTs or UTAUs from the English community and it starts off normal then quickly becomes insane
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>>50996080
Age is just a fucking number man, why are they so obsessed about it? They are singing robots.
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>>50996080
>understandable utau to dislike
>literal who
>least known wholoid of the V3 era
I'm curious as to why this person dislikes Clara specifically but not Bruno or Maika
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>>50995683
>>50995738

this don't prove shit. they probably learned instruments and/or singing really young before using vocaloid because vocaloid literally barely existed before 2010.

This makes "late bloomers/late practicers" (you know, that feeling like when u see a 50 year old in college) feel the worst. It feels like anybody plays their instrument since they were 9 or 14. All I did was play games.
Don't give me either brain chemistry crap nor reminding me the present is a gift.

>>50996080
it doesn't get as insane as you might think it is but the tone is like literal 12 y/o child police lol. unprofessionalism doesn't make people take you seriously in the first place. also they seem paranoid-ish.

But a midi is insane to police anyway i am confused a little
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>>50996102
kid brain -> underdeveloped mind -> no critical thinking

>>50996157
>tone is like literal 12 y/o child police; unprofessionalism doesn't make people take you seriously in the first place
this. and the vocaloid scene today are full of people like these for some reason. i've even seen some "adults" on twitter siding with these children also. actual echo chamber
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>>50996129
Clara reminds him of his annoying latina stepmom lol
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>>50996157
>It feels like anybody plays their instrument since they were 9 or 14. All I did was play games.
it's a(n asian) parenting thing. children are sent to music lessons as soon as they are physically able to handle an instrument and before being able to reject their parents' suggestions.
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Post funny covers
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm12451977
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm15056263
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>>50996157
>>50996189
The most surprising part is the person who the TOS belongs to is in their mid 20s and they've been in the community for about a decade.
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>>50996080
>Clara
lol what did she do for this guy to dislike her this much
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Zako scandal hit him hard
https://x.com/hiiragi_magne/status/2061149139992518924
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>>50996336
I mean any successful western musician they have wanted to since early teens at the latest.
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>>50993190
its cute and the art is good as well but I don't expect it to go super viral like execution clap did but maybe I'm wrong
its definitely focusing more on the story and characters than the actual song at least imo
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>>50997272
Good on him. It's kind of absurd how rare this is now that I think about it. Then again learning a second language is hard.
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>>50996297
Clara is literally just brown Meiko
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>>50997948
>blue archive
>vocaloid
The two most schizophrenic communities in the West with relatively normal people in Japan
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>>50997948
Is this IALen shipper just one guy or a group of people?
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There's nothing wrong with being the side character, or "non-starring NPC filler", as that anon put it, I still love her the same.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2mJbagwELg
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>>50996591
we call those people "manchildren"
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>>50993190
I love the treasure hunter girl who wants to wife genie teto, so yuriful
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https://x.com/livertineage/status/2061034955476726023
Moca merch?
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>>50997755
i like this artist's stuff
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>>51001490
Where's Teto
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>>51001573
Why are they like this
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>>50993173
i'm in love with this guy's Adachi Rei song, I already liked her in covers I've heard but the way they specifically tuned her sounds amazing. song and MV's also got a ton of attention to detail, too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRnjetMobw8
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>>50993828
NTA but maybe it's just the songs I'm exposed to, but I also feel like Miku and Teto seem to have a nice distinction where Miku tends to play some "dream girl" character or is just generally someone to be desired, while Teto seems to be more relatable and almost self-insertish. Like, Monitoring and Liar Dancer are both, at their core, vaguely about self esteem and questionable methods of navigating through life, but Miku fills an almost messianic role as she reaches out to you while Teto tells a story about a fictional character who may be a little too easy to relate to. I know there's probably a lot of songs for both that go either way, but I feel like those characters at least lend themselves to those roles well.
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>>51001516
That car is for vocaloids
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I love this adorable girl
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>>51001659
Adachi Rei is pretty interesting to me because I can't really imagine what she'll sound like with a Vocaloid soundbank. Her being extremely robotic, in particular the robotic reverb, feels like her most unique point.

>>51001680
Miku used to have those songs. Probably the most famous tumbling through life song is Rolling Girl. Rather she still does, but the thing is and what you're touching at a bit, the vast majority are female/love troubles. Miku very heavily has a female identity. Teto's sort of weird in that she's also gained the male one. Self-inserting into Miku is difficult due to this for the male half of the Vocaloid fanbase, but Teto jumping around makes her something else. Teto ends up taking the contra role to Miku frequently, however she can still very clearly take the female side/identity like with the new Trap Chick song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXA0PEjkIGU
Heroine Request feels relevant to both my replies here. Rei's default duo partner is looking to be Teto. Though a huge ReiTeto boom doesn't seem likely even after her Vocaloid release.

Thinking about it, in general Miku is usually a solo singer with the vast majority of her biggest hits being just her. That changed after Mesmerizer and the Mikuteto boom. This duet strength however seems to be coming from Teto's side and it feels like she's easier to pair around than Miku.
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>>51001831
NTA, because Teto's existence is to be Miku's rival. Her birth revolves around this. It's only fitting she got that comeback.
Going back to the IA discussion, IA is no one's rival. She was not made to be one. She was made to be different, even Lia commented about this, that she didn't like Miku's design but found IA's to be cute. Her general direction has been to go towards audiences completely unfamiliar with Vocaloid at the time. Her colors are less saturated and does not compete with Miku's pop star look, there was even an internal discussion at First Place at the time that they fear she might not sell well, but they went with it anyway after hearing Lia loved her. Even still, she still tries to get the attention of completely new fans, areas where she is completely unknown, like international tours in cities where not even Miku has even visited. She was born in a distant world, but she loves to brave the unknown, learning everything about it, and coexisting with it. She wants to befriend everything and everyone, the kind of girl who loves the universe truly for what it is. That is the essence of her character. Perhaps competition is what hypes up fans nowadays, and Teto is the perfect fit, and no doubt she deserves the spot today. With IA, I'm she sure she doesn't mind being a distant, faint star, but just know she'll always be there even when things get dark, just like the time when everyone seems to have forgotten the joy of listening to Vocaloids.
Keep in mind this is just how I interpret her character based on real events, promotions, what little official material there is, fanarts, and headcanons. Yes I am aware I am reading this too deeply, I just love her a lot.
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>>51001886
>Teto's existence is to be Miku's rival
citation needed
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>>51001953
Well her entire history, of course. She was born out of an April Fools following Miku's popularity, created as a "fake" vocaloid, twin drills instead of twin tails, follows Miku and the Kagamine's naming scheme, etc. Surely I don't need to explain her entire history to you, right? I'm not Tetobro.
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>>51001999
just point out where did you get the "Miku's rival" thing from
>She was born out of an April Fools following Miku's popularity, created as a "fake" vocaloid, twin drills instead of twin tails, follows Miku and the Kagamine's naming scheme, etc
none of that means rivalry
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>>51002263
Well that's just how I read it. I mean she doesn't have to be a rival but she was made with parallels in mind. She could be lovers, friends, or enemies, depending on the song of course, but the parallels are there.
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>>51002263
>just point out where did you get the "Miku's rival" thing from
not that anon but twindrill already talked about Teto being Miku "rival" in the pokemiku interview:
“Born as a copy of the great pioneer Hatsune Miku, Teto chases after her while Miku represents the light, and Teto embodies a shadow-like aspect.”
https://www.famitsu.com/article/202505/42943
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>>51003154
Do you know where you are
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>>51001886
>>51001953
>>51001999
>>51002263
This argument seemed to have started on a pendancy. Teto was made to be an April's Fool joke that tricked people into thinking a new Vocaloid was coming out.

Whatever she is after the joke is over is simply what people end up using her for. One can ascribe a fate, pre or post, but ultimately what happens happens and there was never anything ordained for her. Just how things started and how you think that lead to the current state of things. There's nothing that needs to be cited as she and all the other Vocaloid's characters are a product of its cultural zeitgeist. To claim a need for citation for any particular aspect is absurd. One can claim an origin for more popular aspects, but they were never official in the first place and only gained a place due to momentum from fans. Miku is permanently associated with leeks because Orihime from Bleach spun one and somebody overlaid a song over it.

Her status as Miku's rival only really took over after her SynthV release and the Mikuteto boom. She was for a large part of her life, simply a side fan character to her. There may have been inklings of it here or there, but nobody would've considered her Miku's rival 10, rather not even 5, years ago. Looking at old art on Danbooru, over 90% of her posts are after her SynthV release. They start showing up at page 410 of 447. Her existence was just funny fan character before it. Neru got picked up from sheer association. Haku's still forgotten.

Right now, Teto is Miku's rival and PinoP has kind of cemented it. It just works.
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>>51003154
did you think this was /v/ or something?
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Let's Talk About Conspiracy Theories
https://youtu.be/xK3w_xq4wFM
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>>51003159
>Whatever she is after the joke is over is simply what people end up using her for. One can ascribe a fate, pre or post, but ultimately what happens happens and there was never anything ordained for her.
yeah that was the point
"Teto exists to be Miku's rival" is not axiomatic; it's just a variant of many possible cases

>Right now, Teto is Miku's rival and PinoP has kind of cemented it.
disagreeable

>>51002841
that's more of a general Pokemon thing - everyone is a rival to each other there
Teto is just a versatile and recently very popular counterpart for Miku, where both have been adapted to the general themes of that world
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IDK about axioms but personally I want to yank teto's tail really hard just to see what would happen
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personally i prefer the gumi/rin duo vs the tetomiku duo
lots of way better songs on the gumi/rin side
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I realize I may have been talking to Tetobro this entire time (From the small letters at least). Thank you for the discussion, I think I understand Teto a bit better now. The word I was looking for was not rival, rather, counterpart. I think it's fair to say there's enough room for her to be something other than Miku's rival.
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>>51001831
>Heroine Request feels relevant to both my replies here. Rei's default duo partner is looking to be Teto. Though a huge ReiTeto boom doesn't seem likely even after her Vocaloid release.
I do think it's interesting that Teto at least partially sprung up because of duoing with Miku, and now Rei seems to be springing up at least partially due to duoing with Teto. IDK if Rei will rise quite like Teto did, but if she does, there might come a trend of voice synths rising up by duoing with whoever the last trending one was. Might even become intentional where people intentionally try to pair their favorite synth with whoever was the latest trend.
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>>51003385
It takes only 1 massive breakout hit to start a cascade, but those don't come by every day. Teto actually was having hits before Mesmerizer dropped, but most people won't argue Mesmerizer is what put her on the map. Rei's got the benefit of both being another shadow of Miku(the robot project was originally about creating a real life Miku before becoming Rei) and being very closely associated with Teto. Even with a huge hit, that would almost certainly just put her at trend level. The robotics project does offer a lot of potential venues for continued relevancy though. An actual real robot concert might end up making splashes outside of Vocaloid, but that feels quite far in the future.

At the very least, I'd like to see an epic space super robot battle with Adachi Rei fighting something with missiles. Maybe Dragon Teto or something.
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>>51003307
you just triggered one of her erogenous zones
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>>51001886
What's up with those eyes?
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>>51003660
Big alien eyes
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>>51003669
Ayy...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4hjLt4kiUM
Pino song for Taiko. It feels kind of too mellow for what it is.
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https://x.com/nico_nico_info/status/2062002588917391844
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm28974414
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teto
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gdg7Ijj-THI miku & teto
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYsPy5lU77o miku & teto
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JBR6d_RMz0 miku & teto
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8HHPph7LMU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rJ67_fmDN4 cover a non-vocaloid song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2fD372VVXg utau cover of that todomachi life styled song with gumi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArXtjtjCl9g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcn19MYiKC4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCjUMEMLkLw utau cover of a Onomatopeia Glasses
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qipe-uZ3Olg sv cover of a non-vocaloid song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFuomxJRXQ4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qo4FlSNJKDk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yhtx5Y4R-vU spanish sv teto & cryptonloids
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9eAD2yV--8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLKTJ7gi_cw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AesS6NVzsc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h95i-2xFy1E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_3U6nWkV9U miku & teto remix/cover of a non-vocaloid song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXbETtHoQWM miku & teto
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I01ZHxX-SpY miku & teto
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNuILRRqzKA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2oBEWLVJCM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBFPrVcB7Hk utau cover of All I Can See Is You
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyOsks6pEBk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duX2z2brnH8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vy-z6DrtZps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jri8FPuhgPw miku, rei, teto, nurse t
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URPH02_qHAI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5Oeh6FVxo4 miku & teto arrange cover of Virgo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dkbAiIIpd0
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>>51004280
Did you see this btw, Tetobro?
>>50968286
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>>50988697
Forgot to reply, very cute and funny song
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Please help me remember this song.. sorry for poor quality.
https://voca.ro/18c2dt0pxTZD
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73b6XMlTFJ4

they colonized teto

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Z7ArkZgbUo
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>>51004771
Secret police
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvJELA6USuw
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>>51004953
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!! It's been driving me crazy!
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Miku sounds and looks so cute in this https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PM1_tk4cvGw&pp=ygU944Of44Op44Kk44OO44OQ44OI44OzIC8g44K_44Kx44OO44Kz5bCR5bm0IGZlYXQuIOWInemfs-ODn-OCrw%3D%3D
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>>51005276
>&pp=ygU944Of44Op44Kk44OO44OQ44OI44OzIC8g44K_44Kx44OO44Kz5bCR5bm0IGZlYXQuIOWInemfs-ODn-OCrw%3D%3D
Why is your link so long?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PM1_tk4cvGw
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>>51005545
Long like his penis when he sees Miku
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>>51003417
>An actual real robot concert might end up making splashes outside of Vocaloid, but that feels quite far in the future.
I could see if sooner if they end up using technology from Boston Dynamics or something, but otherwise it might take a while. I can see it's moving, but it's on a stand, and not moving fast...
website so anyone can check it out, gotta find your way to youtube for more videos
https://mechanicalgirl.jp/adachi-rei/

>At the very least, I'd like to see an epic space super robot battle with Adachi Rei fighting something with missiles. Maybe Dragon Teto or something.
Rei fights like a KX security droid and you cannot convince me otherwise
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What does the PPP in PPP Sounds even mean
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>>51005276
>>51005545
I love that song.
Takenoko boy has some really sweet songs.
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>>51005756
it likely comes from the fact it's a circle consisting of three voca-Ps
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>>51005999
That's boring
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>>51005545
youtube insists on adding trackers at the end of the url when using their copy link/share buttons
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>>51006110
Circumcise it by deleting everything up until the first &, delete that & also
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6gnbwCCIcU
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cool art
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>>51006232
She looks freaked out. What is she scared of?
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>>51006241
rapeseed in sunflower disguise
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>>51006283
Did you say rape? Is she hiding from her rapist? Who is it?
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>>51006331
me
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>>51006337
Why are you trying to rape this poor 14 year old idol?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lK9z88taP8
New Masarada. It's using Voicepeak Teto which is rare.
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>>51006358
NTA but don't act like Rin doesn't deserve it
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HRW4aNgx6U
Teto+Ui
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>>51006286
took them long enough
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>>51005545
Blame Apple and Google for creating a tech illiterate generation
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>>51006488
New? I heard this months ago.
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>>51006488
How
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HOSHINOHA is a new producer, so I believe this will be the first time they are getting posted here. The vibes are great and it's the first MEIKO song I liked in a while, so I checked out a good bit of the channel. Worth a sub if this kind of thing is your vibe.
https://youtu.be/TEBiJ3bQw8w
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>>51006286
I was excited for the new Teto Nendo but this killed that
>>51006288
This, however, is awesome. God, I love Haku.
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>>51006488
First time I'm hearing a good Teto song that doesn't use UTAU. It's insane how awful and soulless her SV makes her sound.
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>>51007046
i assume is like those yt poops, he made vp teto say the lyrics and altered the pitch with effects
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ojisan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngVPf_NMLkw
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>>51006497
I'm going to crush your balls like edamame crushed by Zundamon making zundamochi
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>>51004280
Thanks, シロロウ is now one of my favorite producers.

>>50987724
>the only good thing that came out of there was teto word of the day
>They type in small letters they could both be Tetobro you know
>Tetobro posts "Word of the Day" by Campus Village
That poster was really Tetobro.

>>50980564
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bx_wCEHdIqg
New KasanaV. Many good lines but I laughed so much when Teto said "Blue Miku".
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curiously, i noticed peeps at vocadb are calling PPP Sounds works ai-generated despite them actively posting short breakdown videos. any idea how this conclusion was created? or this is this just some kiddo's hate boner against em
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>>51009836
It's used whenever any aspect uses AI. For example, a one second visual clip or pattern in the background can get the AI tag slapped on it. If the music was AI, then PPP Sounds would be blacklisted from VocaDB entries entirely.
MASA got the tag on Flower Moon for a fucking pillow.
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>>51009843
so hate boner, kek
why are newgens even be able to contribute there in the first place
(btw i was referring to the fact that their work is actually being tagged as ai-generated music when lol has been posting breakdown vids.)
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>>51009836
at least some of their songs have that ear-grating high-pitched noise that many suno or whatever AI generated songs have
they wrote a community post that they use AI tools to remove noise and stuff but that's the exact kind of noise that AI generates, even if they compose and write lyrics themselves, the end result has quality issues
the breakdown clips themselves have a faint weird hiss too, as if using a tool to remove certain tracks from an already rendered song was used
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>>51009872
newgens love masa, what are you talking about?
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>>51007925
so he did what i wanted to do 6 months ago. and considered to be too much to not cave to SV2.

but seeing it in action now...

>>51010043
this shit is exactly akin to hating even 10 years ago AI texture upscaling of like half life 1

and also it's as if people cant fucking remember all synthesizers are math and algorithms in the first place. noise limiters and shit have been in some of the first FL studios
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八月、僕らの犯した間違いの答え合わせ/ カゼヒキ - August, the answer to the mistakes we made
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pmj5CGPaUQ8
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>>50998100
Good question.
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>>51010802
>and also it's as if people cant fucking remember all synthesizers are math and algorithms in the first place. noise limiters and shit have been in some of the first FL studios
sure, but they're adding noise and it sounds bad
the whole morality of using AI argument is a separate point
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>>51011814
Len is so fucking lucky...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdwDdWE4vL4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxw8xg1lpp4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8PO16yrsNk
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https://x.com/sshikisai/status/2063199546784846198
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqTmTqIxcGQ
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm46402847
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>>51006288
Apparently Hioka-san and Caffein were at the Goodsmile event.
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sex with IA
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>>51013840
i can't tell if hioka and caffein are really good friends or they're dating because they're always together
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There's very few songs that I think covers would be a big improvement over the original, but they're almost all by Western producers who can't mix or collaborate with someone who can't mix.
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https://youtu.be/pjDMa09UoNs
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>>51006288
I'd kill for a rerelease of these two
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The other site is kill
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>>51013963
IA-chan is pure
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>>51007837
What's wrong with it? Mesmerizer?
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>>51010043
>the breakdown clips themselves have a faint weird hiss
I'm not defending PPP but as a producer the hiss is common when you overuse compression plugins like OTT and LOL does sound like he overuses it.

Also I miss LOL's art account. He nuked his twitter and now a lot of his art is lost.
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>>51004868
why are there so many of these
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>>50998100
pretty sure it's one guy requesting multiple artists on sites like odaibako and marshmallow since a lot of those pics show the request box. the guy's very dedicate to his ship i respect that.
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>>51017528
Too big
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>>51017538
Never
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>>51017538
hitorikanawo/LOL draws every vocaloid with gigantic tits, even Kafu
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>>51017539
Bigger
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Does anybody have that loid bust size chart that was posted a few threads ago
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>>51017528
>>51017539
sex
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>>51017523
Yeah, pure sex
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>>51017531

The Kai guy i found out made his own symphony and I actually listened to one part. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THVCkRuyuqs
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Would you like a loid that's a pure tomboy?
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>>51017692
We already have flower
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>>51017692
A bunch of Vocaloids already skirt the line and the idea of tomboy would be trivially overwritten by shy girl in love after a few romance songs. Vocaloids don't have solidified characters, so starting setting matters very little. You'd have more luck going the other way around having the community establish and use a girly character as a tomboy.

Like how did we go from this...
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>>51017709
To this.

I was actually having to pick over different types of tomboy Tetos.
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Like I guess this is what being the Yang to Miku's Yin does to you.
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Like look at this.
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>>51017709
I mean people like to meme flower (from what I can find, hardly anyone talks about her nowadays) as non binary or at the very least tomboyish, which matches with the official art and direction where they intended her to be more androgynous. Also doesn't help that the other notable Gynoid loids (Meika sisters) are actually non binary. In this case the established character matches the official setting, or at least doesn't deviate too far from it.
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>>51017740
Flower is probably the furthest past the line, yeah. One could argue Rin, Gumi, and even Meiko have tomboyish aspects. The thing is tomboy is more about action than appearance. Which can only really be perpetuated by actual characterization through MVs and any media that uses them as characters.

Which sucks for Flower because all her biggest songs didn't feature her as a character at all.
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>>51017692
Yanhe exists, but we should definitely have a true, active type tomboy since we have femboys like Piko already
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i fucking love maretu
https://youtu.be/a-zpnWrRtE0
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>>51017810
Who
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>>51017712
Why is every fanart of yararara Teto incredibly hot?
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>>51017810
There's probably some tomboy UTAUs which makes me wish VocaDB had a tomboy tag
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>>51001788
Me too
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>>51003328
I rather Rin and Miku songs, even Miku and Luka, most of the mikuteto songs are really similar so It gets tiring for me at some point, like, when mesmericer and obsolete meat were just realeased, I would have trouble to see which one is each, I get that they are produced by the same person but Candy cookie chocolate sounds really similar and is produced by hallo cell
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>>50989906
Does anyone have old vocaloid songs reccomendations, like Gaikotsu Gakudan to Riria, I love this kind of songs
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>>51018430
I like Miku and IA
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbuNTI-ti2o
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>>51017526
I like the vocal melody, but I hate the melody of the instrumental for a majority of it. At least Channel can tune, because most MikuTetoslop is fully untuned.
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>>51018029
Chinese Vocaloid from the V3 era, short white hair and blue eyes. Track jacket and shorts.
>>51018381
There absolutely is. There's an UTAU for everything if you look hard enough though
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>>51019441
>At least Channel can tune, because most MikuTetoslop is fully untuned.
You probably shouldn't say stuff that really spells out you have no idea what you're talking about or even saying.
Channel did the video animation, they're not a tuner, they're an animator. Satsuki/32ki is the one who did the music. Also, by definition, all Vocal Synth songs are tuned. To say something is fully untuned is claiming people are setting the programs to speak in an entirely flat voice, even the shitty MMD skit videos have to tune slightly. Like just say you hate the tuning of most MikuTetoslop instead.
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>>51019001
Aieeeeee she got eyes under her skirt
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Bros, I tried sakuramochi for the the first time in my life. I don't know if it is authentic or not but it got the shape and color right (Kansai style, the round one) and the leaves are edible as it should be.
Initially I was expecting something unusual but surprisingly it's quite normal. The red bean filling was not too sweet so as to not overpower the leaves I'm guessing. The leaves had a very mild tangy and salty taste but otherwise it has a very subtle floral aroma to it. Texture wise it adds a bit of crunch to the otherwise soft mochi, which is not as sticky as the usual mochis. All of this reminds me of my wife really, sweet and mild. Eye catching but not unusual. Is quirky but is otherwise soft most of the time.
Thanks for reading my blog post.
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>>51019628
based
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Is yi xi the first industryplantloid? Literally no one cared about her until western producers randomly decided that she was going to be the next big thing
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>>51019628
I put sprint onions on most of my dishes.
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>>51019655
>sprint onions
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>>51019657
Kek
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>>51019512
I got the Channel thing wrong because I heard Mesmerizer only a couple times, I'm a Western fan so outside of Japanese producers well established in the 2010s I tend not to listen to them, and you're a retard if you think all synth songs are tuned, unless you're referring to things like autotune (true on a technicality) or phoneme mixing/editing.
As someone who has been using Vocaloid4 since 2016 that is definitely not the case, because a lot of people outright refuse to touch either pitchbends or notebends when making engagement bait songs, or as new producers who are afraid of the software in some way. With Teto, it just means she's bland but not offensive. With Miku, it's unlistenable because Vocaloid needs that edited as a bare minimum to sound alright. For example, untuned Kaito sounds like a dying frog and untuned Flower sounds like a screeching banshee, but both are excellent when tuned.
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>>51018377
elaborate because I wouldn't say that image is incredibly hot unless you're specifically into that look in her eyes here idgi
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>>51019671
You're pretty up your own ass. By the most basic definition, tuning is simply changing the pitch. Whether it's done well or not is a different matter. Putting the word "fully" behind untuned claims the broadest interpretation. Are you going to provide a list of recent hit songs that have this complete lack of tuning at all? Or did you mean a bunch of random amateur songs by newbies? The vast majority of music doesn't meet your standards for tuning, congrats. If you think your music is much better, I'd like to hear it then. If you've been doing it for a decade you should have something then.
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>>51019671
>For example, untuned Kaito sounds like a dying frog and untuned Flower sounds like a screeching banshee
What other examples can you give?
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>>51019794
I was referring mainly to Chromatic's work. Good instrumentals, but I don't like the vocals. Jamie Page undertunes, though I'm not going to shit on her for a lot of the reasons people tend to, and it's clear she at least edits the pitchbends a little. There's also a lot of other producers, but I'll give JP producers that they tend to tune it at least a little, at least more than a lot of Western ones after 2023.
I apologize about the way I came off, I'm just frustrated with the way the community's changed, and its latest trends. At the end of the day I think I just don't like denpa or the current 'autotune only' meta, which loops back to any use of Vocaloid or UTAU instead of SynthV sounding very badly when the producer decides to swap and made a bad habit already. One of the few Western producers I've seen tune SynthV to the fullest extent of the software is RIProducer, and I'm very impressed by how quickly they adapted to it. Although I've noticed one producer is very weird. I admittedly love the way GHOST tunes Vocaloid even if I'm not fond of them as a person, and their instrumentals are very much not for everyone. However, they tend to undertune in SV in a way that's pretty unique to them, I don't think I've heard Kevin sound that flat and emotionless by anyone else, without outright using Manual mode the whole way through.
>>51019797
Galaco sounds like she's about to blow your speakers out while also mumbling, Miki sounds off-key (though in her case, I think there's a time and a place. The only others I feel this way with are Piko and, in rare cases, Luka), Yohio is raspy and needs to have his params tweaked alongside pitchbended on occasion.
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>>51019907
>Her
Him
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxycSpWYefY
Damn, it hurts watching this
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>>51019907
>try listening to this Chromatic's songs
Okay, yeah, this is pretty shitty. I get the frustration. Sorry if I came off as provocative myself. It's just broad sweeping statements invite blowback. Something I'd like more people to keep in mind in general is the fact the vast majority of Vocaloid work is by its very nature amateur. Not that there shouldn't be criticism, but being overly harsh/hyperbolic is just being an asshole. Giving off the idea there's nothing good anymore when there are still very much things people are enjoying. If nothing you like is coming out, then yeah it sucks, but it doesn't mean that everything coming out is bad.
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>>51019973
The fact this doesn't bother with a consistent Y axis means it overstates a lot of the falloffs and understates the Teto boom. For all the Wholoids that actively touch the bottom, the graph can be spiky due to how close to it they were from the start. Looking at Teto's graph, you'll realize she was actually having comparable searches for nearly all those years before 2023 even though it's near the bottom as the line has been outright squished to account for the sheer height. That sort of rise is a /biz/ wet dream.
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>>51019973
yuki only got popular because many so-called "fans" are now "protecting" either her voice or the chara from being used in any suggestive manner because of a blatantly false belief that ultimately gaslighted almost everyone
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>>51020011
It's alright, and you have a great point. I mostly listen to smaller producers now because they have a lot of good works that are buried, and despite how hopeless it can feel at times I know there's more voicebank variety as of late than there was in 2025, and I'm thankful for that at the very least.
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>>51020046
There's more voicebank variety but no one is using them
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https://x.com/Luna_miko00/status/2064223752620318840
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>>51020023
Yuki got popular from the funny recorder song though
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gyaru rin chan now
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https://youtu.be/YtzbSDg05ak
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>>51020104
that's a blast from the past
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If Miku’s 20th anniversary song were a critique of the current scene like Sand Planet was, what points would you like it to be addressed? (be deeper then just muh Teto bad)
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>>51021195
>what points would you like it to be addressed?
LOL already did it for me with Sexy Minus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hP9os_Na-eg
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLrAavo_Osc
Cool punk Teto.
Also with baseball bat.
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>>51020023
zaakotourist...
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>>51021195
In the West, there's Cord Cutting and Immortal. I know we need more songs about the modern community in both the West and Japan though.
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Manbo-P came back from hiatus. Do we have Gumifags still.
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Should I buy Miku or Luka?
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>>51021195
half of modern popular vocaloid music over the last year was a critique of the current scene
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>>51021568
>all those fake outrage self righteous comments
Get something real to be mad about like your tax money going to satanic pedo billionaires once you get out of school become a wagecuck, effin bleeding heart fags
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>>51022449
Crypton said Luka V6 is next in the pipeline so buying Miku now is probably better unless you specifically like the sound of Luka V4X.
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>>51022480
i'm currently covering Tetoris with Yuki
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>>51022597
NOOO you can't do that, think of duh western e-vigilante TOS
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>>51022764
Good friends but I've always felt like Gumi should be taller
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It's up
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>>51022778
my dick
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Sex with hypno neru
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>>51022482
They didn't really specify it was going to be Luka. It could be Rin for all we know. Or Meiko, but I doubt it because they don't give a shit about her.
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>>51022784
If we go by release date then the Kagamines are next but I thought they actually did specify it was Luka?
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>>51022793
Did they? I thought they just hinted at it being a voicebank that can do perfect English or something along those lines and people guessed Luka because she was the first English compatible Cryptonloid.
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>>51022795
Ah yeah, I think people went with the hint which makes sense
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>>51020397
I always found it a little strange that the song name isn't "Reincarnate Now"
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>>51022349
I'm still gooming.
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>>51022823
It's essentially a double meaning in Japanese where they decided to translate it as the active meaning over the also applicable literal meaning. The reason Miku is forcing reincarnation is so she can retry and it's framed as if it were a game and she were redoing things from the beginning. Hence retry over the more literal reincarnate.
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>>51022349
GUMIbros are sleeping.
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>>51020397
Thoughts on this retune. Everything about Miku sounds like a more natural singer, but I think it misses the fact a lot of producers try to make their own style and their music and tuning is cohesive in that style. If you've listened to other Nakiso songs before, then it was unmistakeable that Ima Sugu Rinne was one when you first heard it. For that reason, it ends up sounding weirdly dissonant to me as the instrumentals are Nakiso's style, but not Miku who feels a bit generic now. Nakiso intentionally gives his tuning a shrill raspiness to impress that mentally ill angle to his songs. A song about killing you then herself repeatedly so you can try to get together doesn't feel quite right when Miku's singing with a more normal voice
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>>51022888
i want to sleep with gumi
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>>51022903
I slept with her first
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>>51022233
>tfw the same guy drew this
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>>51021195
Hachi was right, vocaloid is cooked
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>>51022927
I slept with her too actually
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>>51022996
You weren't at the sleepover though
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>>51022903
Teto. . .
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Whomi
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>>51023008
GUMI boobmogging Teto and Teto assmogging GUMI
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7CUOg8b9DY
Gumi.
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>>51023008
What's the reasoning behind Tetogumi anyways? There's surprisingly more art of it than one would guess.
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>>51023095
They're friends
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>>51013963
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>>51023095
It's hot and cute.
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>>51023639
So slutty...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7LOSKUgqXo
More Mikuteto.
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>>51023639
Bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum conquer her
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>>51024566
>>51025362
Stop, she is pure...
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Three different types of IA
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>>51025576
marry/marry/marry
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>>51017520
>>51022778
>using altchans
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>>51023639
alien sex
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>>51023069
How about Teto and Gumi with massive boobs
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>>51026440
i want to be ONE
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>>51027347
Better to have a bunker ready than not.
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hak
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Monitoring is now the most viewed Miku solo song on youtube
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>Me when I look through the peephole
Mmmmmwaaahhhh
Onegai kimi ga hoshi no
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Wife
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Do robots dream of huge fucking mosquitos?
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>>51028943
Hey look Lukabro, it's your wife
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>>51029054
Pink girls are simply beautiful
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>>51029086
I agree
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNlR_U4CoPA
New Yomitan.
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>>51025576
What does the moonrunes say about each IA?
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https://youtu.be/_jDwAXx2AV4
Miku eats Teto.
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>>51029388
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Is Kiritan supposed to drive me into an insatiable lust?
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>>51030559
only if you're a lolicon
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>>51030563
Ore wa rorikon janai.
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/144218338
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i feel like a zoomer saying this but i've been obsessed with those youtube videos where they 3d print models of vocaloid characters from certain songs.
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>>51030564
uoh cuny
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>>51029922
Thanks!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwpeUW1yEOI
Kafu.
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>>51032694
Lol I saw this on my feed, too
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>>51032694
i love these silly hand puppets, i want one
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>>51032722
I saw these on my feed too, and checked the official price was going for fairly cheap.
Sadly they stopped releasing it, and second-hand websites are crazy.
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>>51032694
Negi Wars
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>>51032650
really nice, it's like a pepped up Hanataba
as much as I like Teto, Kafu just fits MIMI's songs better
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I ain't one of them weeaboos and I don't know nothin' about this s-stupid moeblob, but the shade of teal of her hair must've bewitched me cause now mine heart flutters when I see Miku-chan and she's cute and perfect. I wuv her so much.
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>>51034063
This was me like 14 years ago but with IA
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>>51034119
this was me with Calne Ca when I saw Conqueror
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>>51033673
That's the most gorgeous i've seen her hair, wish more artists drew her hair with more color texture instead of basic light blue, add some darker shades here and there
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>>51035384
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcEvfZsx6No
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>>51035591



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