What are the odds we get a demo?
>>51010568How many years has Zun been using that drawing? kek
>>51010568If its not music CD then its probably a spin off, and those usually dont get demos
Chances are it's not a demo since FW just came out last year, so I'd say it's probably a new CD.
>>51010568Incredibly high actually.Look at ZUN's release timeline, he's been consistent since 2013. It's:Mainline GameDecimal GameMainline GameYear BreakThis year is a decimal game year, unless ZUN decides to just break an over decade long streak out of the blue.
>>51012572What streak are you even talking about? There's more to a game than the decimal, ZUN only made 2 of the 4 decimal games in the past decade.
>>51012572we didn't get a decimal game in 2024
>>51012676>>51012696It probably took you more time to write such a confidently stupid posts than it would have taken to just look up the Touhou release timeline.Since 2013:2013: DDC2014: ISC*2015: LoLK2016:2017: HSiFS2018: VD*2019: WBaWC2020:2021: UM2022: 100BM*2023: UDoALG2024:2025: FWObviously this isn't including any non-ZUN games (i.e. the fighting games and SFW)
>>51012704THAT'S THE SAME PATTERN I NOTICED (and thought I discovered) TOO!!! Finally someone who gets it
>>51010568Violet Detector 2
>>51012968Nina looks to discover the hidden truths behind the spellcards of Gensokyo
It's either going to be a too-soon photogame that pretends not to be one, or that Th20 overhaul I keep hearing about.
>>51012704Now that the pattern has been posted, it's doomed to be broken...
who cares, it's going to be full of ai slop anyway
>>51012704Huh, fair enough.
>>51013317I care.
>>51013317Why do you immediately assume that anything new will be bad? That's not a particularly healthy mindset you know?
>>51013189>too-soonLast photogame was in 2018 Anon, it's been 8 years photography free!
>>51013589StB, DS, ISC, VD, 1BM
>>51013777I wouldn't blame someone for throwing 100BM into the "photo and photo-adjacent game" bin, but it's so far divorced from the original "collection of spell cards" concept of StB that it's kind of weird to directly compare the two.
So what are the odds of ZUN finding someone to replace Tasofro and make new fighting game/other spinoff made by diffrent doujin group?
>>51013796kind of low. They weren't just 'that game studio that does the fighting games' to ZUN, they were close friends. That's why the head of the studio gets to work on official touhou mainline sprites now. It's more likely we don't get a fighting game again at least until tasofro hires some new talent.
>>51013785It's not explicitly a photogame, but it follows the same "1-2 spellcards per boss, 1-3 bosses per stage, everyone from the previous 2-3 games is present" formula as the rest.
>>51013819>tasofro>talent
>>51013796ZUN didn't seek out Tasofro, they explicitly came to him.He's pretty amicable so he could work with another doujin group on something, but I wouldn't count on it.
>>51013873I said new for a reason
>>51013873Tasofro is talented. Just because Sunken Fossil World was a souped up Flash game doesn't change that,
>>51013482because everything new IS bad, and touhou is no exception to the rule
>>51013970Then just come back in 8 years
>>51013970Bad relative to what? ZUN's own standards he set? That's like saying Michaelangelo's works after painting the Sistine Chapel really were bad, and no I'm not saying ZUN is a renaissance man but you've gotta understand that even ZUN at his most mediocre is still better than 90% of other games on the market.
>>51014365>ZUN at his most mediocre is still better than 90% of other games on the market.You must be really delusional, cause his shit has always been mediocre at best and has always been tolerated purely because of the girls and music.
>>51014797Holy secondary mindset
>>51014843Not really There have been and are much better shmups than Touhou Touhou never really stood out because of pure gameplay (the exception being the phantasmagoria games which were unique at the time)If you take the characters out, you get an average shmup with substandard level design and stronger focus on the boss battles Not saying that they are bad, but they most certainly aren't "better than 90% of other games", maybe if actually played other shmups you could see that, but alas.
Do tertiaries really
I've played other shmups by the way, Touhou games are genuinely in the top echelons (especially if you consider the mountains of actual garbage that pad out the genre, I don't get why people treat it like a sacred cow when the low entry barrier means there's so much shit that makes up a majority of it), when people say things like "Well actually, Touhou kind of sucks massive dick compared to real shmups", what they're actually doing is cultivating an elitist mindset by downplaying the successes of the most popular and enduring shmup on the market to both fit into a community of perpetually angry manchildren, and because hating popular thing means you're actually intelligent and the things you say hold real weight. You have to view comments like this with the lens of "the greater shmup community really fucking hates Touhou because it's too popular".That said if you only play Touhou it's still a good idea to expand your horizons. Like Dreamer is very Touhou-esque while having its own identity and it's a very good shmup. You should play it. Some people like Len'en. I don't, I think it's shit that people pretend to like because they're attracted to shotas, but I guess try it and decide for yourself as well.
>>51014797I never thought I'd see someone unironically embrace the "it's just qualityslop, you only like it because it's good" mindset.
>>51014861>(phantasmagoria games which were unique at the time)It's amazing you tried to pretend that you actually play other STG's and then you immediately outed yourself as someone who had never played other STG's before. Every part of this post and every post you made up to this point was retarded but that alone takes the cake as the dumbest thing you've said, because it is factually false. Please never post again and go back to whatever general you crawled from.
>>51016591name one single player VS shmup made before PoDD
>>51016600even a mega larper can gleam the wiki page for PoDD and find out
>>51016600......just kill yourself, it will be less humilliating.
>>51016591nta, he is retarded, but PoFV is a pretty different beast from TSS.Not to say they're completely divorced, but PoFV has a number of altered systems that make the game and its balance feel very different from its inspiration. TSS focuses heavily around perfectly executed combos to use character agnostic offensive pressure and winning the combo war (which imo makes the roster feel more balanced but also a bit samey) while PoFV is more about general survival, long term bullet and resource maintenance, and knowing how to win spell wars. Because the universal offense is so weak, the impetus for pushing pressure on the opponent falls on character specific tools, which is why the game has such a stratification between good and bad characters and why the best characters are all so heavily defined by the offensive pressure they can create through their specific tools (granted, two of the three gods of PoFV also have incredibly strong defensive tools, but I digress. The fact that Reimu can still be a god despite having mediocre defense tells you all you need to know about what makes a character in PoFV good)PoDD is very much just student project TSS though.
>>51016600Wow, you actually doubled down. Me telling you to stop posting was advice you really should'va took.>>51016972Oh don't get me wrong. Multiplayer STG's/SHMUP's in general are rarities and it feels like VS ones even moreso, and the ones that exist are all pretty varied, but anon naming the Phantasmagoria games specifically as unique is retarded on both the front of PoDD for reasons you've already stated (not a knock on it though) and PoFV because by that point there was already plenty of other games in the co-op and VS STG subgenres. Then again it's not like I have much experience with either because I don't have friends who play STG's and I don't like being the guy that makes it unenjoyable/carries/stomps others out of the genre like it's a fighting game.
