もっさもっさおじゃ！Beginner guide, FAQ and links: https://rentry.org/8vkaw (Multiple links still dead, save us Anon!)Child mechanics guide for Elona+: https://pastebin.com/7is8p4NFElona+ Custom-GX continued branch: https://github.com/JianmengYu/ElonaPlusCustom-GXExtra sprites/PCCs: https://elonaup.x0.com/sozai/index.htmElin Wiki: https://ylvapedia.wikiElin Player Guide-Compilation: https://ylvapedia.wiki/wiki/Elin:Player_GuidesElin Modding Resources/Code:- https://github.com/Elin-Modding-Resources/Elin.Docs- https://github.com/Elin-Modding-Resources/Elin-DecompiledLewd Sprites (STOP ASKING FOR THEM, SHUT THE FUCK UP)- http://amaebiworld.web.fc2.com/rkgk/elin/elin_replace.htm- https://ci-en.dlsite.com/creator/32473/article/1558227Previous floor >>50990777
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>>51029339sorry anon she's for robots and demigod assassins only
I wish to carry on collageanon's torch for next bread.Godpseed him.
>>51029432not all heroes wear capessome have tiny little shitty ether wings
>>51029331I miss loyter
>>51029432Scut!I WILL cuck Kumiromi some day
>>51029687Can't cuck him if they've already broken up.
>>51029801They only broke up because she went insane but he still have some feelings for her. Also if he can't handle wild pussy, I will.
>>51029339Haunted house ass pussy
I really dont see any problem in God whoringIts literally the only way get particular followers and artifacts.Kinda wish Noa added way to showcase artifacts in your base.
>>51030716Can you not just put it on a display glass?
My headcanon will never be community accepted fanon....
>>51030716The simplest change I'd go for is removing the incentive: pets don't join you and artifacts become useless trash on leaving. Collectors can knock themselves out, while running the relay gains no practical power.Unfucking the days worshipped bonus and making punishment meaningful and interactive beyond just walking on the world map for a bit would be a good next step.Changing gods a couple of times is expected in a long haul game, so there should be no permanent punishment. The thing is to remove perverse incentives.
>>51030875What's your headcanon anon?
>>51029331Just found out after hundreds of hours there's a way to zoom without going into the map menu: just go into options, go to the input tab and under the Buttons (Adv mode) dropdowns bind middle click or middle hold to zoom.This gives you two zoom levels to swap between - by default they're identical so you still have to go to the map tool button and select the zoom level for each.
egg egg
>>51030912but why
>>51031470Eggs!
More my younger sister's pic, please
>>51031677
Looking at mod tutorials makes me feel retarded because I don't understand any of this yet this game is supposed to be braindead easy to mod.
>>51031478From the powergamer perspective, it allows the god rewards to be more powerful and unique instead of assuming one will get them all and so they are watered down. Do one thing well instead of multiple things passably.For the altoholics, they can not bitch about feeling obligated to run the god relay.For the rpfags, actually dedicating oneself to a god is serious business in the setting and people get quite fanatical, which is at odds with godwhoring.Etc, etc, etc.
>>51032133>For the altoholics, they can not bitch about feeling obligated to run the god relay.Dissuading it by removing a progression option is a terrible idea. You've repeatedly pushed this but the manner in which you want to enforce it is terribly thought out. Stop trying to punish people for not playing the way you think the game should be played.
>>51032123What is it you want to do exactly? Because it ranges from braindead fill in a fucking spreadsheet to CS Majors want to rip their hair out.
>>51032147>punish people for not playing the way you think the game should be playednta, but isn't that exactly what the god relay ends up doing? Punishing players for not god relaying?
>>51032147>>51032133>>51032162the godwhore relay is incredibly lame and makes ever doing a new run feel awful
>>51032162That's not what a punishment is. Choosing not to engage with a system does not mean you're being punished. This is like saying anyone who doesn't breed companions is punished because breeding is an easy way to get ridiculous stats.Completely gimping an already established system which isn't inherently broken is a punishment. Instead of changing it in a way which punishes players it's better to change it in a way which punishes nobody and benefits those who want a more focused experience for personal/thematic/roleplay/etc reasons.
>>51032160Create a custom adventurer and equipment.
>>51032193First off, that's bullshit. If it was something like choosing not to use a fireflower in mario, that'd be one thing, but traditional god runs aren't fun to start with, and you're severely gimping yourself if you don't do it, at least in Elona. I don't consider monotheism in Elin to be all that bad, but I also don't try to minmax or hit floor 2000+ void.>>51032233You need like 2 or 3 files unless you want to do something super fancy. Package.xml with your details filled in, a spreadsheet with a table for your adventurer, a table for your gear, and maybe some images if you want it to look different.
>>51032162>>51032168Removing a benefit is the same thing as incurring a punishment. No meaningful difference, all the quibbling about positive and negative reinforcement aside. Same thing happens with ELOB and whatever the flavor of the month meta is, people end up doing it because they feel obliged to for progression. It's not surprising ELOB and milk are still on the slate for nerfs.The godwhore relay is a drag even with the best strategies, dissuades alts, and homogenises playthroughs. Remove that slog and buff gods individually to make their playstyles more distinct.Keep the option open for demigod players, since that is their gimmick.
>>51032238>Package.xml with your details filled in, a spreadsheet with a table for your adventurer, a table for your gear, and maybe some images if you want it to look different.I understand the general gist of things but I have no idea how to actually implement it even after looking at tutorials. Is there a template or something available somewhere that I can just fill in to create the stuff I want to make?
>>51032133From a normal person perspective you can just not do the god relay
>>51032238A good example is Opatos Hammer. That thing will carry you to void and beyond, as the doubled life and earthquake proc is just too good. Not getting it means severely gimping yourself to the point it's an obligation.
>>51032250It's called Excel you fucking gonk. If you can't even make a goddamn spreadsheet, you're too stupid to bother making a mod. Ask someone who has two braincells to rub together to make it for you.
>>51032274this doesn't work. Every player starts off as a normal player, then they end up forced into the god relay if they play the game for more than 10 hours
>>51032302Yes I'm aware. What I can't figure out is how to actually implement it as a mod. Like... surely if you have ten character mods it's not loading the entire table ten times and only reading the single new line from each of them.
>>51032312What are you talking about? You make a folder, you put the package.xml into the folder, you put the xlsx file into the folder, it's now a mod.You want 10 characters, put in 10 lines, you literally don't have to do anything else. If you don't know how to operate computers, maybe this isn't for you.
>>51032305not really, I still didn't do it on my second 300h char
>>51032324Wall of text tutorials simply aren't how I learn things. Applicable examples are. I can create complex context-driven AHK scripts just by patchworking various examples together but I don't know shit about writing code myself and I'm never going to bother to learn.
>>51032249when you remove something people will hold a grudge and remind you and everyone else for yearsthat's the difference
>>51032249>Removing a benefit is the same thing as incurring a punishment.No it's not and you're actually retarded if you think that's true. This is basic human psychology. You need to get off of this hill because you're too stupid to be preaching.
>>51032331>>51032331the only slightly coding related thing he mentioned would be making the xmlhttps://elin-modding-resources.github.io/Elin.Docs/articles/2_Getting%20Started/basic_modas he said the rest is saving files in the right place and filling in spreadsheet boxes which even the most npc-ass office drones are able to do so I believe in you. to answer your previous question if you add 10 different single character mods from the workshop it actually would just load a spreadsheet with a single line from each of them, but if your mod was adding 10 characters it would load your single spreadsheet with 10 rows
>>51032433Can't be worse than a bunch of puritans whining about little girls, swimsuits and mommy
I've started using AutoExplore for the first time, is it over for me?
>>51032462Nope. That site isn't going to cut it for me because it's made by someone who already knows what they're doing. I've already browsed it several times and got nothing out of it. If it actually provided example files this would be easy.
>>51032563Excelデータをインポートしてみる～のZipをダウンロードします。https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vR3GPx71Xnjfme6PtdqNnS5GnxlOFr2A8KdzH8bYTEwEOCgeVYROi3YaMQ2_h4qsySU_BORHKXPUi9i/pub
>>51032563so you're asking for a site made by someone who doesn't know what they're doing?
>>51032877No, I want a tutorial made by someone who is capable of putting themselves in the mindset of someone who doesn't know what they're doing. That site is fucking horrible for numerous reasons. It repeatedly references shit that does not exist and you have to go hunting for the data yourself.
>>51032961what it sounds like is you want ChatGPT
>>51032993No I just want a good tutorial with example files. That site is a horrible tutorial. It radically overcomplicates something which isn't anywhere near as complicated as it makes it out to be and obfuscates important data. There's no reason for that sort of retarded design.
>>51032526yes
>>51033002There are hundreds of people on the discord who read that and were easily able to make their first mod. Sounds like you're just mentally challenged and should stay out. Making things too accessible so that even 85iq retarded niggers can invade your hobby is a suicide pact.
>>51032961Are you trying to read the entire wiki or something? The linked page tells you where to put things and how to make a package.xml90% of the pages on that wiki do not apply to you. The section on Source Sheets (and their included links to the actual game's source sheets) is all you need. If you can't read that and understand how to make a fucking excel sheet, then I'm sorry anon, you need to go back to grade school.
>>51033859>>51033867>don't understand any of this yet>template or something available>don't know shit about writing code>never going to bother to learnImagine wanting to be spoonfed so hard, just short of having a pump directly installed into your gullet. Anons are giving resources and they spit it back out.Can't even be bothered to put in the effort of learning something new. Hell, just having enough curiosity to reverse engineer any of the readily available custom adventurer mods works out just fine.Bait or retard, call it.
>>51033912Both, I'm a retard for being baited
I must acquire... more figures...
>>51034057Getting a king's bed and inflating its value with bed wrenches is a good start.Cities cheat, they have a bunch of invisible dummy items out of bounds to inflate the value.
>>51034207>Cities cheat, they have a bunch of invisible dummy items out of bounds to inflate the value.Hm, interesting to know
Do people even care about Wini?
>>51033867>The linked page tells you where to put things and how to make a package.xmlWell it didn't work and that's all I care about.>>51033912>Hell, just having enough curiosity to reverse engineer any of the readily available custom adventurer mods works out just fine.And that's exactly what I ended up doing because it's infinitely easier than trying to follow a badly written tutorial. Example templates are infinitely more valuable than walls of text.
>>51034789I like her, she qt
>>51034899someone posted a link to a site with examples like you said you wanted and you just ignored itthis whole "argument" is just fake drama from a samefag, isn't it
>>51034899You cannot be spoonfed any harder.
>>51035132Hey, it's not my fault the tutorial is shit, lacks critical information, misleads and isn't formatted well. That's why it took like ten minutes to edit an existing template instead of trying to follow the guide. Super easy.
Honestly I also had issues with the tutorial for the small race mod I wanted to add but most of that wasted time ended up being because I missed the disclaimer not to use Sheets because it's a broken mess. The source sheet resources were helpful thoughIt is still weird to me how a few of the variables in the race menu just have "We don't know what this does, so don't touch it" when every race defines it as something different. Clearly I can touch it if everyone else is doing it, you can't manipulate me
>>51034789I made sure to recruit every girl with Catsniff
Would anyone use my mod for a party member gyaru that is mean to you and always slightly is stronger than you? She uses 2h's
>>51035326>always slightly is stronger than you?in elona+ it was normal for your wife to have higher stats and start hitting 5 digit basic attacks in act 2 if you shared a herb food every day
>>51035326I used that tutorial posted above to do this for myself, it was really simple I think even a legitimate retard could do it. thank you for the offer however
>>51035146
>>51035617Know when you're being baited and to disengage, anon.
>>51035326>>51035412It's been expected for npcs who are actually a threat to be hugely op numerically compared to the PCC. The player has the twin advantages of flexibility compared to mobs' limited movesets and of acting intelligently. The more tools are available, the higher above your weight class you can punch. By late endgame taking out mobs with millions of levels with around 1-2k stats is a matter of course.This is the reason pets get accelerated growth compared to the player. In e+ pets' experience was multiplied by 10 before other effects. In Elin there's the time together and affection bonuses before other bonuses.
What the hell are you supposed to do for Perception food? Every other stat has an easily farmable option but Perception is doesn't have any good options from fish/fruits/vegetables and the small handful of "meat" options all suck because you can't farm big daddies or bells in large quantities.
>>51036368Metal eggs. Tame a bunch of bells, whip them into bathing, deck them out with swimming gear.I have 1k extra bell eggs.
>>51036368Yeah really sucks. It would be my lowest stat if it weren't for god and armor bonuses. I subsisted on wisp meat for months. Bell supply is running low. Got a single legendary bream too. If only eggplant was farmable.
>>51036686I want to give this a go but they have to be residents right? Gonna need another land deed or something...
>>51036692My corgon burgers level up my str and end every time I eat em, but I also go blind because of the -180 perception exp every time lolMaybe that's why my meleee isn't scaling well, I keep missing because I didn't make perception food. Why can't we assign residents to create dishes for us already man....
>>51029432>I'm in the collage againI'M SO BACK!!!
>>51030837Fantasy Miku play World is Mine!>>51030875Literally never stopped me from pushing mine kek.
>>51037126Everyone is in the collage. Especially (You)
>>51037143Then I'm in the collage twice, TO THE MOON!!!!
Sex with the edgelord OC
What the fuck is the Zephyr's Wrath supposed to be?
>>51038170I always assumed it was some final fantasy 8 thing if it's a reference at all, but I never cared to play that one
the day Elin is playable with a controller is the day it becomes the best game ever made
>>51038170It was originally supposed to be just a big sword that does lightning damage, but then I asked for it to shoot bullets, so it's a big sword that does lightning damage and shoots bullets. It wasn't ever meant to be a reference to anything. Hell, I had left that part of the backer wish thing empty until Rust contacted me and was like "Hey what about the second wish? How about a sword for Kiria?"Honestly I left a lot of it up to noa. This is all I gave him, he made up the rest.
>>51038201I guess he should've designed the sword better, I can't tell what it's supposed to be at all
