I wonder how many people just jerk off to touhou characters without playing the games or interacting with other doujin material
>>51035243I'd say:50% who jerk off to the characters30% who only listen to the music19% who do everything but play the fucking games1% who play the games
I don't know about that. There's definitely a number of people who do this by proxy, because they just collect erotic material whether they know the franchises or not, and 2hu certainly falls into that category. Good luck getting a number, even an approximate one.>>51035254More people than a grim 1% have played the games, but there's a depressing amount of people who "beat" each game on easy or normal with continues exactly once and never again. Every time old popularity polls are brought up, I get reminded of how grim it is. They used to run a stat on "did you beat the game on x difficulty". It's propably skewed upward because the kind of people who vote in such stuff are more interested by default, but it feels unreal to think that you had more than a 10% chance that a random person in the fandom you're talking to has at least one lunatic 1cc under their belt.I'm willing to forgive people not wanting to spend hours on a video game that can infuriate you, no issue. They don't seem to be willing to forgive me that I give a shit and have any standards.
>>5103524395% of everything I learned about Touhou was reading (non-h) doujinshi and I know nothing about what happened to it in the last 5-6 years
>>51035243Why do you waste metal space wondering about other people's masturbatory habits?
>>51035785>metal spacebrutal
>>51035785>metal spaceis it a sequel to this?
>>51035339if you can put up with zun's sorry excuses for "stage design" long enough to actually grind out multiple lunatic 1ccs then no, you do not actually "have any standards"
>>51035888They aren't THAT bad. Sure other games have better stage designs but it's not like Touhou's is unbearable either.
>>51035888Where are you people coming from recently? It's not really an opinion that large chunks of Touhou games are within the top percentile of all SHMUP's in terms of quality, and this implication that the level design is somehow a "sorry excuse" implies that either you hate a majority of the genre too or you're just shitposting.
>>51036005>It's not really an opinion that large chunks of Touhou games are within the top percentile of all SHMUP's in terms of qualityIt literally is just an opinion
>>51036005Usually when you see posts like these there are two options:>it is someone from the board that hates touhou (vtubers, etc)>it is someone that actually likes touhou but likes baiting as wellI have seen a good chunk, and even been one myself, of the second kind.
>>51036021You can like Touhou while also acknowledging it's flaws you know?
>>51036021Right, which is why I think and or hope that anon might be shitposting, but I've seen this exact line of logic of "Touhou is a bad SHMUP" across a couple of threads now in the past couple weeks. Usually that delusional ideology is contained entirely within one thread but it feels like recently it's rapidly increased.
>>51036027>>51036010To be fair, back in 2025 I used to make absolutely deranged hate posts towards everything related to Touhou for its bad writing. But the problem here is knowing when someone is baiting or being unironical.
>>51036055It's delusional on the same level as fags who say "Touhou is best shmup"
>>51036065I mean it's pretty obvious that >>51035888 is baiting, or at least exaggerating
>>51036066What exactly don't you like about Touhou?>>51036055>but I've seen this exact line of logic of "Touhou is a bad SHMUP"Wasn't that the Turk anon that had a similar line of thought but with PC98?
>>51036071Yeah. To me it's obvious they're a tourist just trying to get attention given how repeatedly they've tried to get more direct attention.Weird to do in a thread about jacking off to 'hus though.
>>51036071Honestly sometimes people do have opinions like that. We like to dismiss almost every outlandish opinion on this board as baiting (or in the whole internet as well). I have seen people here have completely deranged opinions like a guy who was claiming up to the very end that Gensokyo was a fascist society.
>>51036085Found the youkai sympathizer.
>>51036098Brother I am a human supremacist
>>51036078>What exactly don't you like about Touhou?I'm not >>51035888And it's not like I don't like Touhou either, the hours I've spent would tell you otherwiseBut I do kinda agree that the stage design isn't as good as it could be, though calling it a "sorry excuses" is definitely pushing it too far.Lot of the stages are just boring in my opinion, and feel like filler between the boss fights which arguably are the main focus of Touhou, and one thing that Zun in my opinion does better than most. As for concrete problems for example the enemy variety, it's mostly just fairies. One of the reason why I like LLS and MS is because of the enemy variety, though EoSD also has couple of enemies that aren't just fairies. Another thing that Zun doesn't really do is make use of the background for enemy placement Like I said the stages aren't terrible, but they could be made better.One thing that I will give Zun praise for is how stages sync perfectly with the music, that is something he does really nicely.Interesting comparison is Touhou and Cave games, because to me they feel like completely opposite philosophies, where cave games focus more on stages and Touhou on the boss fights.
>>51036148I do agree with most points here. Most of the stages in Touhou are just fairies 24/7, that's one of the reasons why UFO is one of my favorite games in general. But I don't think they are exactly filler, even if their purpose is pretty much that.For me, somehow, my biggest gripe with Touhou is the writing. Ex. character development, character variety, advancement of the plot, worldbuilding, exploration of the world, lore, etc. I have went to the extent of saying that Touhou is a fanfic that happens to be original material.
>>51036148I also have problems with how little the games use objects AKA basically not at all, but yeah anon saying they're sorry excuses is nothing but the lowest tier of bait, especially as he gave absolutely no examples of either what games have amazing stages, what he wants from them, and if those games are standards.
>>51035888You are right, I should improve my standards then by playing the "real" shmups. What a shame that every time I tried to learn what a "real" shmup is, the "real" fans of "real" shmups couldn't even agree among themselves what a "real" shmup is. They sure knew that 2hu ain't one, somehow. But their own examples could be given and then instantly dismissed by another person. Waaaah this game sucks, try this one! Waaah no you're a shitter unless you double triple quadruple 1cc this game! Waaaaah >implying Super Pooper Megashoot PoofPoof IV is harder than Mega Spaceship Coin Devourer Arcade (original version running on some ancient hardware)!!!In sparse cases when they actually provide any examples, it seems like those "real" games are about memorizing what comes next, misdirection or reacting very fast. Which is fine, but guess what... 2hu does all of these too, plus bullet hell. For some reason, dodging through thin gaps infuriates them. Never heard a reason why, maybe except "but you only have to use like 1% of the screen, all those bullets are just for show!". You will never guess... it not only is for the show and part of the appeal, it is also there to cover the screen so you don't just hide behind enemies if their attacks are on the slower side. Oh, and there's like a billion examples of attacks that absolutely do have you darting around the screen and utilizing more than le 1% of play area.They also often yell at each other that the other guy doesn't even play those games. Maybe that's actually the case, seeing how they don't know shit about neither 2hu nor their own golden standard. So I will stick to my opinion which is based on actually playing 2hus instead of pretending I played some game on its original fuckass arcade machine.
>>51035243Back in the day? Lots.Nowadays? Gachas have captured the fapping secondary. Most people who engage with the series through fanworks read stuff like Ladies of the SDM and such types of doujin.
>>51036078nta, but I'm going to throw my opinion in here for any tourists browsing this board who are drawn to this thread.I am the majority of Touhou fans.I beat EoSD once on easy. I have tried multiple other 2hu games. I haven't beat any others on any other difficulty.I have absolutely zero interest in playing the original games.That said, I have beat Mystia Izakaya, multiple runs of Lost Branch of Hourai, enjoyed Touhou Genso Wanderer, played Touhou Puppet Dance Performance, I've touched EraToho, I've beaten Labyrinth of Touhou 2, touched Labyrinth of Touhou 3, played Genius of Sappheiros (and the other games in that trilogy), beat Artificial Dream in Arcadia.And my favorite fangame of all time, bar none, is Fantasy Maiden Wars because it literally gave me 80% of my lore knowledge. The other 20% came from looking at the wiki and double-checking to make sure it was accurate to the source material.That all being said, I have zero interest in ever trying out any of the original games. I love the fan community of Touhou and all the games they make. The fanon interpretations of characters are slightly fun too.And I'm a writer. An erotic writer. I like writing smut. ZUN has provided me with a whole world of girls I could probably spend years writing about if I wanted to.Touhou is the 100% dictionary-verbatim definition of a game franchise I love everything about except actually playing – right up there with anything by Project Moon and Darkest Dungeon.
>>51036078>muh roachCan you find another boogeyman to bring up in every thread, nigger?
>>51037483Don't look at me I am just repeating like a cockatoo something I heard months ago.
>>51037458You're alright in my books, since at least you tried playing the games, and engage with the franchise instead of being a social media poser.
>>51037458Unfortunately I can't respect you because you're a deranged masochist.
>>51037630If you were a youkai, this statement would fuel my lust for years.
>>51035254Im not good enough to play the games and I know it. But I enjoy everything else.
I wonder how many people don't jerk off to touhou characters despite playing the games or interacting with other doujin material. You think ZUN himself has?
>>51035243How can some people jerk off to those characters? There are better well drawn characters out there.
I have been listening to the doujin music for 13+ years. I tried playing EoSD a few times. Didn't get hooked or anything. I do think the fanart threads on /jp/ are very cute and I wish Reimu could be my waifu, but as far as I can recall, I have never masturbated to any of the characters. I kind of lament that I never got more involved with the universe/lore.
>>51038327>not good enough to play the gamesIt's not like anyone is when playing a shmup for the first time. You play until you get good. It's another matter if you just don't enjoy the games.
>>51035243I remember when I used to jerk off to Spacezin Wriggle, but nowadays I no longer get hard to the stuff I used to enjoy. I can't get aroused at all, no matter how much erotic content I consume, so I just gave up on pornography and ecchi for the time being.That said, the games are still exhilarating to some degree, even if I'm gradually growing tired of the same bullet hell formula. Maybe I'll finally start reading the multiple Touhou mangoes out there, so as to give my brain a break and some time to recharge from the games. I would not consider myself some sort of avid gamer; I get tired from playing any game for an hour or more, and immediately quit afterward.Apparently Detective Satori is /dbs/-tier shittery, according to rather... controversial opinions. On the other hand, I've heard Wild and Horny Hermit is relatively good, supposedly.
>>51035243I did it for nearly a decade. Playing the games and getting to know the characters better made the faps even better,
