Suppose a second human village erected in Gensokyo, one consisting almost wholly of outsiders who know about 2hu and its lore. Basically, a village consisting of the entire 2hu community including /jp/. What would be the obvious caveats to such a design? Where would it be built? What youkai would be a serious threat, and what youkai would come to visit?Let's pretend that the village is somehow built without anyone becoming a meal. What then?
I'm going to deposit the first issue in the construction of such a village: we don't have Hakurei Shrine protection. The Hakurei family protects *the* human village, but I wager Reimu isn't going to double her workload by protecting outsiders.On top of that, we're not fear cattle.The villagers of Gensokyo don't know that much about youkai and what they're capable of. We, on the other hand, would see someone like Nue and immediately know "Oh, her ability is to turn things unidentifiable."We're simply not as profitable as fear cattle. I wager Yukari would still allow our existence here because at least some of us would still be terrified of being eaten whole by a tengu, but we're already at a disadvantage here.
>>51040935>What youkai would be a serious threatI think what we need to worry about more is the villagers rushing out on their own to find youkai wives and getting eaten like that. Hell, the youkai would probably leave the village itself alone because it would basically be like a vending machine to them, dispensing food pretty much on demand because there will surely be at least one dude there at any given time who would answer the invitation of a youkai. I'm sure there would be some youkai who visit just out of curiosity too. What's with this village of suicidal foreigners?
>>51040951>The Hakurei family protects *the* human village, but I wager Reimu isn't going to double her workload by protecting outsiders.Sounds like the perfect time for Sanae to step up for the glory of her shrine, to offer protection in exchange for tribute. Maybe even Myouren temple will be willing to step up to be the village's protectors since it would be the perfect place to demonstrate that coexistence between human and youkai is possible, given how open to their presence the village would be.I wonder what the OG human village would think if they started hearing rumors about weddings between humans and youkai happening in the other village. Maybe the village will gain a reputation as a place to be avoided for humans like many others places in Gensokyo.
>>51040951>The Hakurei family protects *the* human village, but I wager Reimu isn't going to double her workload by protecting outsiders.Then one of the other religious parties will obviously fill in, Byakutits would crash against Moriyamountains
It somehow getting built without triggering the youkai is kind of a weird thing since at that point I'd assume it'd just be treated as the human village (smart), youkai are said to like outsiders for their knowledge so I assume this would just become a youkai tourist spot. Maybe eventually they try to turf war over whose humans belong to who, and if they didn't stop it from being built I don't think they'd tear it apart either especially as Gensokyo's kinda big and getting to the other village would take a ton of effort.
>>51040952I second this. Most anons here would lack the self-control to avoid, you know... approaching the ravenous beasts who, despite being very much so attractive, are still completely different from us both mentally and physically speaking.We really need some form of defense, too- just in case shit hits the fan. We lack forces like Keine who actively look after and protect the villagers; maybe guards of our own? Of course, I won't expect the vast majority of the nu-villagers to be particularly fit and combat-efficient, but...
>>51040990Like the others said, the Moriya Shrine or the Myouren Temple would step up. There are issues with both options, though.Most of the 2hu community is straight up not built for Buddhism. Hijiri is the leader of the temple if I have my lore knowledge right. In Buddhism, arousal and desire are both categorized as earthly pleasures that need to be abandoned. Right there, having the Myouren Temple as protectors would already be a fundamental incompatibility with most anons and that's not including denouncing meat and alcohol. The anons who do stay and subscribe to buddhism would end up very disciplined, however, and I doubt they'd end up being eaten by anyone anytime soon. A boring outcome, but also definitely the safest.The Moriya Shrine, though? I can't even start predicting how that'd turn out.Sanae, Kanako, and Suwako all don't mind science, have "little respect for tradition", don't care how exactly you're being faithful as long as you actually are, and the latter two are very crafty.It'd take Kanako all of... say.. seven days after the village is constructed to realize half the nu-villagers are sexually frustrated and to play into it big time. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if we end up seeing a "tengu brothel" exclusive only to those who've shown the most faith.
>>51041058The third option is that, well, we're all from 2026.We know how to use firearms. Maybe we're lucky and a couple of people from the villages know how to make actual firearms or, bare minimum, firearms out of scrap like Fallout or something.I have no idea how effective a bullet would be against youkai. The sweetspot is that bullets aren't effective enough to harm them but enough to hurt them.If the bullets can harm youkai, Yukari is going to shut us down real quick for threatening her youkai sanctuary.If the bullets can't even hurt youkai, there's no point.I find the image of this to be fucking hilarious.A wolf tengu tries to make a meal out of an outsider only for like five of them to pull up with homemade ARs, two molotovs, a bat with nails in it, and a pipe bomb "just in case".
>>51041073AFAIK Youkai can't get hurt by regular weapons, only by magic and divine power So unless someone would bless those molotovs they wouldn't do shit.
>>51041086>So unless someone would bless those molotovs they wouldn't do shit.What you're saying is that we should get someone to pledge loyalty to some random god and become a priestess, so our society can have its own shrine and supernatural influence?
>>51041095Priest* fuck
>>51041095That could work I guess, though I can't imagine the other powers of Gensokyo being particularly thrilled about it.An incident caused by humans... that could be fun.
>>51041086Would Kanako be willing to bless these guns and become the patron kami of firearms?
>>51040935Destroy it, they know too much and are a security concern for Gensokyo's future well-being.
>>51041086Actually, mundane fire will hurt youkai just fine. Now, getting a youkai to stand still long enough to be hit by a molotov when they have supernatural speed and reflexes...
>>51040951>but I wager Reimu isn't going to double her workload by protecting outsiders.Reimu literally does increase her workload to protect outsiders. She's the only official way out, and presumably even provides safe passage between the village and the shrine. Unless Reimu openly decided to abandon her duties to the point of a scolding, she would protect the Outsider Village too. Which makes the question not "what would Reimu do" but "what would the people around Reimu do", because if we pop in and other major forces either decide that they hate us/want us dead/can't protect us/"can't"(won't) protect us, then Reimu's likely going to follow suit as the last one.And let's be real here; an Outsider Village under the bounds of the OP would immediately be despised. If anything I think the discussion is dead from the outset as everyone who knows about Touhou would immediately turn all of Gensokyo into a tightly packed train at worst, and at best there'd be millions of people with hundreds of thousands of them regressing into manchildren no different than those who scream at Star Wars filmings or Bronies, without even going into the tens of thousands who'd immediately try romancing and/or raping 2hu's. The tl;dr is I think even Keine would be okay with killing all of us and she'd be correct for doing so. It should just be "a group of Outsiders which the anon's reading this thread are a part of".
>>51041638Sure, a "group of outsiders" then. Not a large group. We'll say about the same size as the human village itself, and they decide to make their own civilization a distance away, so not quite in the same area.To be fair though, it wouldn't matter if the population is even 200% larger than that of the human village. Account for the fact that at least 25% of the fans would be, for lack of better words, utterly retarded and believe they'd be capable of sexing 2hu and living to tell the tale. Immediate culling and a celebration from the youkai for what is the equivalent of a "buy one, get three" sale. We might even see 10% more exterminated as the youkai realize flashing their breasts and promising a "fun time" around the corner would secure them even more food until the outsiders wised up.Then another 25% will die over time because they've wandered way too far from the village, but this is typical. This occurs within the human village as well. The issue is that 2hu fans wouldn't have nearly as much fear as the human villagers, so we'll see a more significant population decrease.Overall, you right. The bounds should probably be constrained a bit.
>>51041655You miss every shot you don't take buddy. And if one of these bitches dare says no or tries to eat me I can easily dodge ALL attacks from memorizing their attack patterns. It will be like second nature to me. Then when they are tired and disheartened from failing to hit me even once, that my friend - is when the raping will start.
>>51042016And what if they just turn the tables on you and out-rape you?
>>51041086>we have priestanons in the villageFuck, that’s so bizarre but also fun to seehttps://youtu.be/Mqbunqxgfb4
By the way one aspect that doesn't really get talked about is what would the effects of such migration be on the system of faith?If I understand this correctly, Gensokyo works on the principle that faith shapes reality, that is to say that if enough people believed I could teleport I would actually be able to do it. Now here is the interesting part, assuming that this new village would have population larger than the original, this could mean that migration would mean massive changes in Gensokyo. And considering how the anons here are, lewdsokyo could essentially become real.
>>51042034If both parties are willing then is it really rape?
>>51042155It will be after 4 hours yooks have different kind of endurance.
>>51042158Doesn't matter, if the end goal is sexing the 2hus and this was the end result, I'd say you passed it with flying colors.
>>51040935There’s so many things that can either happen in our favor or against it. Just off the top of my head, in addition to what anons mentioned before>kappas like Nitori and her cohort coming to us to learn outsider tech>Moriya patronage, results may vary, Sanae is willing, but Suwako and Kanako are fickle>Byakuren sees this as a prime time to showcase her offshoot branch of Buddhism of Youkai-human coexistence and is willing to hang out with the outsiders (she also has a Harley Davidson bike).>Miko also sees this as a prime time to showcase Taoism.>fairies are gonna check out the place, ranging from something benign (Cirno being Cirno) down to downright chaotic and infighting (Clownpiece)>Aya sees a new human settlement pop up and makes a scoop out of it.>the absolutely random off chance Koishi appears and everyone proceeds to goon at her.>anons giving up their self-preservation to clap some youkai or fairy ass, only to mingle with maneatersThe silver lining is that at least Reimu is willing to cover our asses while everyone tries to get accustomed to living in some rural feudal Japan bubble universe where every electric power grid is practically dead, no cars, PCs or phones are worthless, etc.Now that I think about it, it’s kind of shitty to live in Gensokyo considering you lose the convenience and advancement of tech in favor for being a rural farmer living in constant fear of being eaten, though since anons mentioned having knowledge prior, someone is probably gonna step up and use it to either just have a quick fuck or actually keeping us from crashing and burning.
>>51042187>Now that I think about it, it’s kind of shitty to live in Gensokyo considering you lose the convenience and advancement of tech in favor for being a rural farmer living in constant fear of being eatenI do wonder, there is a surprisingly large amount of anons who are engineers and such, so I don't think it's unrealistic to say that we would surpass the main village technologically almost immediately. Not to mention that just being able to use outside world tech would make us a attraction.
>>51042204>I do wonder, there is a surprisingly large amount of anons who are engineers and such, so I don't think it's unrealistic to say that we would surpass the main village technologically almost immediately.I’m an IT graduate, so you aren’t far off either on most anons here being a graduate of science degrees primarily.Assuming a lot of us will cooperate & do our part and not just ran off to the nearest youkai ass for sex, the village can live and even thrive.
>>51042204>>51042294Just don't spread too much info about our technology to the native villagers, if we can help it. I might be misremembering, but technological advancements (or any sort of relevant advancement, really) capable of permanently shifting the Human Village's little world is a fucking death sentence.Threaten the status quo where villagers mostly believe leaving their safe-zone is a dangerous activity, or even somehow help them advance past their 'frozen in time', Feudal Japan shtick and the big shots of Gensokyo might just decide keeping the nu-village intact is more trouble than it's worth.
>>51042093Where is the line between belief and delusion?
>>51042187If I train with Byakuren will I also be able to empower my body to perform superhuman feats like she does?
>>51042601Don't get held back by your common sense, anon.
>>51042595>some anon decided to troll the natives with knowledge from the outside world>Youkai sages goes apeshit and nukes the outside world village>so hard in fact that the Great Hakurei Barrier got even more reinforced, absolutely made sure no holes get through, anything related to the outside world is practically banned and taboo. Might net a visit from the (not!)secret police of Gensokyo>thought crimes are now a thingWould be anticlimatic of the new village’s fate, but the sages would probably realize that even if they proceed to annihilate everything about it, humans or sentient beings as a whole are curious creatures that wants to sate it, doesn’t like stagnation or staying in one place, and one way or another, get used to living normally despite the terrorization attempts.
>>51042906Oof, no more feeding youkai if that happened
>>51042187I think what's also fun to consider are the internal issues and outsiders that'd promptly become well-known.> The atheist, despite being in a land with multiple gods, still refuses to acknowledge a single one and it drives Sanae up a fucking wall. > The plug puts exotic mushrooms into his merchandise and starts selling "supercocaine". 20% of the people in the village are addicted in one week. Marisa is fuming because people are smoking the mushrooms she uses for her magic. No one is questioning how the plug gets to and from the Forest of Magic every two weeks without even a scratch.> The roided gymbro swears, on his life, that he can beat any 2hu in a fist fight. But whenever Mukou or someone else willing to melee actually shows up to the village, he's nowhere to be found. He also swears he can beat Reimu in an arm-wrestling contest. He doesn't hide when Reimu comes by because he knows Reimu doesn't want to touch his ultra-sweaty hands.> The chill gymbro tries to get Yukari on creatine. How tf he even got creatine into the village is a mystery kinda like how the plug gets into the forest of magic every week.> The doomsday prepper turns his house into an anti-youkai bunker. He starts crashing out HARD when Seiga just phases through his whole shit. He crashes out even harder when a youkai sells him some "anti-youkai salt" that turns out to just be rock salt.> The casual racist calls Cirno a slur every time he sees her. He's also got plenty of shit to say about Nue considering she's literally an alien.> The competitive racist is actually a politician trying to convince people that youkai shouldn't be allowed in the village at all. He doesn't last three days and no one asks where he went. It'd probably be the first human-youkai in-joke with neither side willing to acknowledge his existence, yet both sides know exactly where he went.Very fun to think about.
>>51043974I wonder if this village could flourish as a middle point between the human village and the wider youkai population, or would the disposition of the people quickly cause them to wear out their welcome.
>>51043990I think the amount of eccentrics and anons who fools around silly would probably make the youkais less likely to just slaughter the village and more on join the fun. When you consider that they already get their fill of fear from the 1st human village, them just shaving off every boredom in the 2nd village isn’t far off either. >some anon’s phone rang despite no signal or coverage>”Hello, hello. I’m right behind you~!”>there’s nothing behind him>anon calls back the mystery number>pic relatedKeks were had.
>>51044038The human village for business, the western human village for pleasure. Speaking of, it would be interesting if this new village was built in a western style to reflect its populace, though I don't think we would have the collective know how to build in a classical style to parallel the human village's Edo era aesthetic without someone using magic to do it for us. Maybe Remilia would be willing to bankroll this project just out of a sense of nostalgia for her homeland.
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>>51043974I would begin building hidden Christian altars and see if i can contact the martyred kirishitans saints to see what happen after, also it would be fun to behold the imminent factionalism which would surge between anons, goes double if some of us got powers, magical or otherwise.
>>51044294delightfully based
>>51043974>some "anti-youkai salt" that turns out to just be rock salt.I mean, yeah, rock salt does drive off malicious spirits in some folklores.The real fucking question is WHERE DOES GENSOKYO GET ROCK SALT FROM?
>>51043974>He crashes out even harder when a youkai sells him some "anti-youkai salt" that turns out to just be rock salt.Technically, that is enough to ward off certain types of youkai, namely demons.
>>51044294Entertaining the idea of making capital G's flock focus on the 'Sokyo is probably as big an offense as a villager turning into youkai, if not larger.
>>51043974>>The atheist, despite being in a land with multiple gods, still refuses to acknowledge a single one and it drives Sanae up a fucking wall.Sanae being so mad with him that she invites anon for dinner with Kanako Anon still doesn't believe. Though he is starting to be willing to entertain the thought that there perhaps, might be something beyond humans.
>>51044924Will attempts to court lady Nazarenus be considered a grave sin by Christianons?
Can I manifest Kali without being Hindu? I always thought she was cute and I want to smooch her.
>>51042187>anons giving up their self-preservation to clap some youkai or fairy ass, only to mingle with maneatersFairies are about the only thing in Gensokyo as dumb as anonymous users, so we'll have to account for at least a percentage of successful pairings resulting from these attempts. How does the community handle these inevitable mixed-race families?
>>51042595> technological advancements (or any sort of relevant advancement, really) capable of permanently shifting the Human Village's little world is a fucking death sentence.>or even somehow help them advance past their 'frozen in time'I don't see this happening as practically any technolocgical advancement past edo Japan would require mass industrialization that obviously a small town of well-educated porn addicts won't be able to do.Even if for example you just know how to build an analtyical engine, you wouldn't be able to replicate the machine precision required for it with feudal Japanese blacksmithing (or contemporary western blacksmithing for that matter) and all it would be would be a giant, fragile calculator that would also be made redundant by anyone who would know how to build it in the first place.Now, I do think classical to medieval western mechanics and the like could be completely fine because they'd mostly be a fun novelty on the same level that simply a village filled with a bunch of non-Japanese guys would be, and like I said a gaijin with blacksmithing knowledge is gonna have European and not Japanese knowledge, as would western-style theater and culture in general. It wouldn't shake the human village at all because it's technologically on the same level as them, just thought about different. And even with rudimentary firearms, first they're barely useful against humans so yokai wouldn't be a concern and realistically the normal human villagers would have those as well anyway.Don't think filthy different-thinking gaijin would cause an administrative stir either 'cause Gensokyo's already full of them.
>>51042906>some anon decided to troll the natives with knowledge from the outside worldIn all fairness that's like talking about aliens coming to earth and ranting about space politics. If you told Kosuzu what 9/11 was she would not have any fucking clue what any of it means at all, let alone its significance.
>>51045460>I don't see this happening as practically any technolocgical advancement past edo Japan would require mass industrialization that obviously a small town of well-educated porn addicts won't be able to do.You know, even making something like a steam engine would put us miles ahead of the human village, I also don't think that in particular would be completely unrealistic, I know at least a couple of other mechanical engineers from here. Once you have that, the industrialization (at least on a small scale) shouldn't be that problematic. Obviously making computers and such would be completely unrealistic for at least a while...
The thread is becoming reminiscent of the /v/ gets transported into Mario 64 threads. https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/511017041/ ~ https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/511153064/
>>51040952It will be evolve or die for most Anons. These once hardcore gooners will suddenly be without their drug. They will either vanquish their demons or run wildly into the woods with a full-blown erection, never to be seen again. Among those remaining, we'd need a form of governance to manage Anon-youkai relations because even those who survived the Great Gooner Filter would have a hard time keeping it in their pants. After all, isn't hot 2hu sex what we're here for? Most of us won't get any though, and the whole thing would be a total sausage party. The smart ones will go down to the Human Village to get pussy, but our reputation will precede us and most human women will want nothing to do with us. Just like real life! Aside from basic survival, limiting youkai influence would be our top priority. Like others have pointed out, we'd be at risk of subjugation by the Moriyas, Myourens, and Taoists. The Moriyas would probably exploit the lust of Anons, but the latter two might just castrate everyone to enforce their mandatory chastity vows.Me personally? I'm booking it to Chireiden as soon as I have a chance to survive the trip there.
