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Nogizaka46 - Info & Discussion Thread

>News
(06/30) Kanagawa Saya 1st Photobook "Suki na Gradation" (https://x.com/saya_1stphoto)
(07/22) 42nd Single "Zehi ni Oyobazu" release (https://www.nogizaka46.com/s/n46/page/42nd_single)
(10/17-11/01) Okuda Iroha cast member in Musical "The Secret Garden" (http://musical-secretgarden.com/)
(09/06-10/06) Hayashi Runa cast member in Musical "Tamiou" (http://tohostage.com/tamiou/)
(09/29-30) 42nd Single Under Live at Tokyo Metropolitan Gymnasium
(2026/12-2027/01) Hayashi Runa cast member in Musical "Four minutes" (https://www.umegei.com/fourminutesjp/)
(2026 TBA) Ichinose Miku, Inoue Nagi, Tomisato Nao, Nakanishi Aruno cast members in animated film "GROTESQQQUE" (https://movie-gtq123.com/)

Manatsu no Zenkoku Tour 2026 (https://www.nogizaka46.com/s/n46/page/summer_tour2026)
(06/13-14) Sun Dome Fukui
(06/24-25) Yokohama Arena
(07/04-05) Makomanai Sekisui Heim Ice Arena - Sapporo
(07/11-12) Hiroshima Green Arena
(07/15-16) Osaka-jo Hall
(07/25-26) Sekisui Heim Super Arena - Miyagi
(08/08-09) Marine Messe Fukuoka
(08/20-23) Meiji Jingu Stadium

>Links
Official site: https://www.nogizaka46.com/
Official X: https://x.com/nogizaka46
Official Showroom: https://www.showroom-live.com/campaign/nogizaka46_sr
Upcoming Nogizaka appearances/events/radio shows: https://www.nogizaka46.com/s/n46/media/list?ima=0152&dy=202512

Group subs masterlist: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B1HFVF5iQBgvjDrPnmwfbq0Iz6VvaOmDep0C2x8yoMo
Subbed content: https://nogiarea.weebly.com/
Group live shows: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JnKp_AEeGUNTNePfY3C3AO4veiVi7frza82lRo44ejQ

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>>51065448
Cute hags.
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PB now!
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>>51065436
I just noticed
what the fuck is she wearing
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>>51065692
She is hot
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>>51065754
Jeans/jean shorts under sweatpants is crazy
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I vote for very short jean shorts
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She's really pretty
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Japan should really forget Paris
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>>51067241
I don't think there's any other country as obsessed with paris as japan.
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>>51066969
mommy ashu.
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This was the first time I've heard of them saying goodbye on Yumiki's radio show. They ended it earlier than usual though.
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can't believe Hayashi is THAT bad at games
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>>51069941
Yes, she's practically retarded.
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>>51070115
She's kind of sort of cute, but I feel terrible for her all the time seeing her.
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>>51070199
for me she's in the same territory as Ioki
I see a pic thinking she's cute, then see another where I have to reconsider
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>>51070248
Maybe some would say Ioki's smile is awkward, but at least it's not the sort where you recoil and go "what's wrong with her??"
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>Ozu studies French
I doubt they will care if she yells "stop raping me" in French.
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>>51070441
what a doll.
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sentaki getto
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That's exactly how I imagined the outfits for this song
and then they changed into some shit colored ones
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>>51072275
Fucking UNF.
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>>51072208
that costume with the song is very akb like, did akipig put files in the wrong folder or something?
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I watched the TV performance
Why does the stage feel crowded now?
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>Mitsuki's disgusting habit
Eeew
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Who came up with this shit that the summer single is important for kouhaku? Other than route 246, ohitorisama tengoku and same numbers they haven't performed that year's summer single
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i always do a double take when i see mayu
always thinking its katoshi instead
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>>51072313
Nah that's certainly an unused Keiyaki B-side.
>we have keiyakizaka at home >>51072792
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>>51073575
its just because the spring single is universally considered a dud, unless the next one this year a big hit, which is unlikely, this year kohaku chance is slim to none, which might be a good thing since it would finally force the management to actually lock in
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>>51074142
>the spring single is universally considered a dud
>kimi no nawa wa kibou
>kizuitara kataomoi
>inochi wa
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Are you ok? How are these (including two JRA winners) universally considered a dud?
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>>51074142
Like half the time they didn't even perform a new song from the same year. I wouldn't rule out Hodoukyou with Endo grad.
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>>51074409

I mean this year, saikake is such a dud that people are putting hope for the summer/current single

Also were half into the year, is even there a good thing that happen in terms of the whole group? they could do past hit, the thing is there is almost no good buzz around them thus far, nagi with taiga drama and toy story vo gig is like the only thing they could clung on to but even then their metrics is either down or stagnating. If there is even a "sony slot", putting them there would only attract criticism.

They need to somehow generate a massive positive buzz for the second half of the year otherwise its better to not be invited to kohaku, forced a reset and actually putting out good stuff next year
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Nogi will always get invited to kouhaku. They may not have the buzz of the peak years but they are still the most profitable idol group
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cute babas
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>>51074446
They'll enter the 15th anniversary year, maybe they will hype that up.
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something has been wrong musically with nogi for quite some time
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>>51074674
They sell parsocial relationships not music
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runa isn't as popular because of her huge jaw
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>>51074683
the parasocial relationship is for the otaku, the music is for causal wider audience, i get it, "we dont need casuals" Is the mindset of most otakus but at the end of the day they do need both, thats what influence/clout is all about, if its not maintained then they going to start losing endorsements, tv slots, and invites to shows etc. Thats how akb or groups before them fell off.

They barely have anyone they can call "celebrity" anymore. Its supposed to be kaki endo but for some reason they dont even send either of them out to shows solo anymore, either they are overprotective to them, or they've been declining to auditions or shows appearances, but the point is they either cant or wont elevate the two aces to shiraishi/nishino/matsumura level

Right now the celebrity the have is maybe nagi, maybe yumiki, they've been trying with miku, which is a good thing, but outside those three nobody barely have that name recognition.
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wow she looks super cute here
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>>51074742
Runa's jaw is cute. Anyone who disagrees is a raging faggot.
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I saw a woman today sitting in the mall, fiddling with her phone and she had her socks on like Mitsuki.
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kimoi hentai stalker
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>>51075293
5ki No.1 Bijin Right Here.
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>>51075154
Casuals move from idol groups to idol groups. It is good that nogi has a lot of core fans who spend a lot on the group and have kept at going for many years even beyond the peak days
At the end of the day it all comes down to money and nogi is making tons of it which means they will get invited to shows.
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>>51075360
No, getting ratings or views and engagement would get them invites to shows, that is purely popularity, sure they are selling, but to gradually decreasing amounts of hardcores, which is why the 6th gen arent selling as well as the previous gens, because the size of otakus just kept shrinking.

Also otakus only focuses on their oshis, theyd even actively try to sabotage other members the see as threat, which is why the vibe of nogi otakus is abysmall. They get money from them, until their oshis quit, and they all quit eventually.

By casual im not even talking about casual idol otaku, i meant the wider non idol consuming audience any celebrity needs those
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>>51075421
Nogi idols are still the most popular idols. They are not celebrities but no female idols in their generation are either.
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>>51075496
Obviously when talking about general audience their competition is not just other idols, that conversation is limited to Idol otaku, to that point the brand nogizaka is not what it was once, and once the remaining big names from their peak, which basically is just endo kaki, are gone what then?

Even for the next single most of the popular 5th gens about to be done with miiguri, what would the sales look like without them? we know that most those 5gen otaku wouldnt move to the 6th.
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i think aidoro culture never recovered after that anketto in that one show that said that nothing is more repulsive to women than being into idols
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>>51075800
most of the oricon etc charts are male idols whose fans are mostly females
women should shut the fuck up
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>>51075800
you needed a poll to work that out? just look at who goes to the average idol event
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>>51075737
kek.
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>>51075800
But many women are into Nogizaka, I've seen it in my own eyes.
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>>51075800
People into idols would still be repulsive to women if idols didn't exist.
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well, no gorup of people are monolithic its just matter of personal interest, which could obviously swayed/influenced

the funny thing is while nogi otakus are pointing fingers at each others and bickering about how their oshis are ruining nogi, the outsiders view nogi otakus as annoying toxic gatekeeping losers which itself contributes to low perception of nogizaka as a whole
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>middle 30
we know
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Voice actors must be seething because toy story has this many "normal" celebs, comedians, idols doing voices kek
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>>51076842
We were all there.
t. 46
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>mayu will be the oldest active member a month from now
cuteest baba
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>>51076761
>the outsiders view nogi otakus as annoying toxic gatekeeping losers
they aren't wrong, but do people really pay attention like that? I don't know shit about other fanbases especially not about those who supposedly overtook Nogi in the past years
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>>51076761
Nogi wotas are truly annoying
I think it mostly come down to the fact that there are tons of them so you are very likely to come across assholes compared to groups with less fans
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>>51078511
Hinachans being the oneesans again!
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>>51078294
>>51078346
I get this impressions that there are antis/non nogi fans instigating negative discourse around them, which naturally happens to a declining leader, but nogi otaku's response usually aren't great either
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Was it this? I seem to remember an anon coping, saying it was a special dress for use with harnesses or something.
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Is there no nogi cafe this year?
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>>51080400
is that where they sell the food of members?
Kubo and Ume graduated, the cooking skills dropped a lot
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>>51080499
>sell the food of members
Yeah, except I imagine it's more like
management: you made this
idol: I made this
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>>51080512
well yeah, they shouldn't let most of them into a kitchen outside of variety shows, food poisoning is not that good fan service
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>>51080085
puffy vulva
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HinaHinano
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nice throw
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>>51081535
6ki a mess. Is even Mitsuki not ace worthy?
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>>51081868
Nice. I didn't see where it went
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>>51082050
The Riri PB you can get.
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>>51082050
need a breastlift
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last thing you see crossing the road
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Big ass jaw donkeyface
but also this hair and makeup make her look hot
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>>51082066
Blind-kun that's kaki!
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>>51082149
that's some gravure cow who looks like Kaki on some pictures, not really on that one though
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>>51082119
good lord when this r*nka whore thinks to fuck off from the group?
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>>51083727
Who will be last? Riria or Renka? Or god forbid I'm forgetting someone else.
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>>51081391
Nice.
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>>51083727
After breaking Yukirin's record.
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>>51083727
>>51083731
Shes getting that sweet pc club gig
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>>51083948
Did yac ever contribute to that show?
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>>51083970
She was in it since day 1
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