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Has anyone here reached one trillion damage in twinkle? How do people reach those numbers? Best I've gotten is like hundred billion but I keep seeing people reaching that in 30ct
list what games you're playingright fucking now
>>51100937wuthering waves, Nikke, star rail and neverness to everness
>>51100944what are you doing here, you weirdo
>>51100937do umamusume, granblue and princess connect count as dmm games?
>>51100954Yes! And they often have dmm point campaign too!!
>>51100954Technically yes but they don't get discussion here because they're not having explicit sex
>>51100912Depends on the element, light and dark have it the easiest because Fiona, Lunea and Venus are busted. Core levels also factor in for some that get nice bonuses, and the natural EX/EX up increase with EX cost down that comes with it can be huge. Personally, my non light/dark teams kinda suck for elements.
>>51101032What would be a good rotation or idea to reach that mythical trillion damage? I want to try getting to the funny number just for funsies but I can't even come close, probably because I haven't bothered to research or do proper rotations given how easy the game is.
>>51101055are your limited units at *5 or higher?
>>51101072Sadly no, haven't really bothered chasing limit breaks.
Equipment limit increased to 500 in Dot Abyss which is good but it needs to be a 4 figure number.
>>51101171and you need to be six feet under
>>51101018You sure? A lot of these horses are ready to rape you at a moments notice
nice
>>51101184>>51101171Hey, it seems like you're new here but the Dot Abyss thread is over at /vmg/>>>/vmg/2056934
>shows up in the pool after getting her from the questFirst time seeing that in a DMM gacha game I think.
the guy working on the dot abyss wiki already quitcant blame him since cucks are insufferable retards that shit everything they touch
Are there any idle games that are actually generous or are they all stingy dogshit?
>>51101221why would you play idle game in the first place?
>>51100937trickcal, muvluv, gbf
>>51101283idk dmm seems crazy about dmm games and keeps putting them out but they all seem extremely stingy when handing out currencythe only exception seems to be muvluv and it's because they always rank so they're always giving gems
>>51101200oh its you, now all the seething about this game and its gem income makes perfect sense.
>oh its younice we're entering the schizophrenia era now
really getting the /vg/ gacha general experience in here lately
The Livre effect is too strong
>>51101283Everything that comes out these days is idle so you're kinda forced to. Too bad they have all sucked really badly.
I want a pure love game with TRPG gameplay like legeclo or TD like monmusu/aigis but actually generous and friendly towards players like twinkle
>>51101520Same
>>51101520isnt legeclo plenty generous thanks to good gacha rates?
>>51101794Is it? I thought it was on the stingier side in terms of handing out gems.I just wish these companies would start putting out more stuff with gameplay and bukkake me with pulls.
>>511018141.2/1.6% pickup and reruns all the time is pretty good and more than balances out lower gems i think
>>51101972Well, the topic of whether it's stingy or aside, I wish there were more games like it.I really like legeclo's gameplay and wish we had more games like it since it is a good game.
What does stingy even mean?
>>51101985
>>51101990And where would you draw the line that determines what is and isn't stingy?
>>51102002Compare with other games and how long it takes to build up a guarantee vs other gacha games?You have to analyze the entire economy too like can you obtain characters with pieces, how many banners are there per month, how many rolls are there per month, whats the ceiling, whats the rates, are there paid only characters or banners, are there paid only benefits or paywalls, does the game require or expect you to have meta characters or specific characters to clear among many other things that would affect your pull economy since a bad thing can be nullified by a good thing.
another day another five rabi rapes
>>51101979what about the game that some anon posts chibis from? i dont remember the name, tenkei paradox? i didnt stick around for too long so i dont know about the economy, but if i remember correctly it was a turn based game kinda similar to legeclo.
>>51102188Haven't tried it before honestly or seen people talk about it, is it good or fun?
>>51102188tenpara had paid characters from day 1avoid avoid avoid avoid avoid
>>51102207>is it good or fun?The only game that was remotely fun was twinkle, but now that they had to keep balancing against ct reduction the game isn't fun anymore
>>51102276ehhh, have they? you can still 1ct pretty easily like Luvine has shitloads of ct reduction on her cheap S1 and people are doing trillions of damagecontent is easy as fuck too where you just get a few key characters and everything becomes super easy
>>51102276>now
>>51102291It's still easy as fuck, it's just boring now
>>51102339think they said something about new end game content so maybe they'll fix that soon
>>51101184nice. I got her in 60.>>51101199wish I knew this before pulling.
you could have if you went to the thread of the game instead of shitting this one daily like the insufferable retard you are
The other thread is for game players only though so please keep the schizos in here, thanks.
>>51101794legeclo gacha is OK but not amazing. They changed the banners from 1.2%/1.2% double banners to 1.6%/0.8% for banners so you have an easier time pulling the unit you want. They released the abyss banners with 0.5% rate and then upped it to 1% since that was a massive scam. Double units also share the 1% banner rateup but neither abyss nor double units are put into a gacha pool after the banner ends. Not being able to pull a random abyss unit on an abyss banner is a letdown. The abyss unit banners come with a free 10 pull ticket when they first release. I can't remember, but I think double units also get a free 10 pull ticket on release. They have been slowly chipping away at gem income though. They released a second tower that resets every 5-6 months, but shortly after releasing that they removed the 150 gems from event shops. They added a challenge mode with 400 gems every other event, but now events got cut from one per week at launch to one per three weeks for the newest event. They also rarely hand out free units anymore, which is another cut to gem income.
>>51102391She's terrible anyways so no reason to max her out unlike Himari
>retard that doesnt play the game giving meta advicehahahaha
>>51102435How many rolls do you get a month in there?
>>51102451And how would you know what is meta, Mr. Everyone-in-this-thread-is-spite-playing-the-game-I-seethe-about?
>everyoneno just your retarded cuck ass blogging to yourself about a game you dont play with images off twitter
The shitposter once again exposes himself. You're bad at this.
post the archive links again mr detective
>game discussion derailed by cuck abyss shittery>againCan you idiots just fuck off already and do this routine in your own thread?
>>51102484retard
my luck with rateups is pretty terrible in this game, but at least im getting a decent amount of ratedown girls.
and there's the blog again
>>51102517Game needs to stop giving my Myrteau dupes.
well this is going to take a while and theres one more unlock after that now.
>unknown>unknownthis retard is actually just copypasting images from discord
>>51102535>https://support.microsoft.com/en-US/windows/apps/use-snipping-tool-to-capture-screenshotshave you ever heard of snipping tool and overwriting one file you insufferable faggot
>felt called out immediately and had to defendlmao nailed itno wonder there's never any actual discussion, just endless blogging
>>51102572make up your mind, is it blogging or posting screencaps from twitter or discord or whatever? every single time somebody mentions dot abyss in any way whatsoever you are chimping out in one way or another.
why are you speaking in third person again though? schizophrenia again?
>intentionally ragebaits and picks fights or starts arguments>blames othersJust saying that this literally only happens with the shitty NTR game. Both the shitposting and the constant blogging since I don't see other anons giving the play by play of games they're playing.
>>51102601you used to say the same things about twinkle posts
The whataboutism only happens with that game too.
>>51102742https://warosu.org/jp/thread/49358770#p49451735https://warosu.org/jp/thread/49358770#p49452040this you?
really selling the /vg/ angle with the schizophrenic archive links from years agoI wonder if there's a rule or law that every single schizo has to carry around their own book of grudges
>>51102770Why do autists always bring out archive links like it proves them right? Whipping out 8 archive links all with different dates doesn't prove you right, it makes you look like an absolute psychopath. Also twinkle and all those other games never got a different thread or a new thread so there was nowhere else they could have gone. There also wasn't turboautism about "I don't like the OP of the thread so I'm gonna have autistic slapfights for thousands of posts" or "I think my archnemesis from two years ago made the thread so I'm not gonna move and be annoying for months" either so excuse me if I'm not very sympathetic to your cause.
>>51102776>>51102804really regretting that you didnt make a vmg thread back then and just linked some discord server/twitter to get completely ignored?
>>51102842With every post you make you sound more and more deranged because it's clear you're not here to discuss a game or even care about said game but to fight a war against some imaginary enemy
>entire motivation for shitting up the thread is pure spite and getting back at some dude from a whole year ago>still has the archive links and constantly brings them up for his ancient grudge>constantly picks fights, ragebaits and starts arguments for zero reason>how dare you suggest I'm doing this out of spite!!! The shitposter once again exposes himself, huh.
>>51102804>>51102849Stop shitting up the thread every single day and filter these assholes you fucking dumbass. If you're that desperate to foster a community go to fucking reddit.
>>51102913>If you're that desperate to foster a community go to fucking reddit.what does that even mean
>>51102890https://www.healthcentral.com/quiz/schizophrenia-test
>>51102920did you send them your archive links too so they can add those to your score?
>>51102924Save yourself before it's too late.
It's never too late bro, you can send them your archive links and tell them about your imaginary enemies.
>>51102919Stop also shitting up the thread every time the shitposter shows up dipshit.
decade old thread and all it took was some cuck with a grudge to trash it forever
>>51103152>cucks>being mentally illWho could’ve guessed? In all seriousness though it’s kinda absurd to be this assmad over something from years ago.
>>51103191Archivefaggotry is a /vg/ staple since most retards there stay mad forever and keep posts that slighted them on bookmarks or some shit. Some of those retards are still seething several YEARS later instead of just moving the fuck on and letting go because they see their enemies in every corner.
>>51103238I’m aware of this, and it’s a /v/-fag behavior that spread out to the rest of its boards rather than from /vg/ specifically, but my point is that refusing to even entertain going to a general that’s filled with normal discussion of the game in question just because he thinks mr poopdickschizo made it’s OP it is a whole new level of rent free.
>>51100937Tenkei Paradox, Detariki, Escalation Heroines, Sweet Home Maid, Dolphin Wave, Kamihime, in that orderOnly playing Kamihime super seriously; the grind never ends.I rolled the IV-N Tight prereg but I don't think I'll stick with it since it's laggy on my potato.
>>51103238Greentexting without quoting is /v/ shit too you fucking tourist.
Dot Abyss back at rank 1 due to everyone dying against the Inferno boss. More surprised Twinkle held 1 for so long despite not having much to do at the moment.
Collapse to heal up and debuff then Strong Gale to attack worked out well. Spent about 5000 stamina with no luck for a Forest Mantle but it would've made the fight slightly easier.
>>51103641it’s just a shame the setting is so horrendous. what a waste of everything involved.Although granted it’s also a shitty idle game so I guess it’s not really that much of a waste, other than the pixel art. Wish they did anything but this dogshit.
>>51103651Nothing about this game is idle
Ice circles are better than landmines I think. Rapidfire turrets also better than goddess statues since the boss can one hit even SSRs.
>>51103653It’s literally an idle game yes it’s idle. You just set shit down and it’s on autopilot. You think that’s an accomplishment?
>>51103641Is the meta of the game really shredding the boss' defense to 0 with a collapse double cast? It's dumb but it's so effective
>>51103654I’m sure you’d get feedback from people who would be interested in having this conversation with you if you posted this in the general all of them went to.
top 3 DMM games should make their own general and fuck off from here
>>51103678nah it's better to spam this general and ask questions to the void while being an insufferable cuck trying to own that guy from two years ago that told me to stop blogging in the general
>>51103676No this boss takes more damage from Front units it seems, and especially from Hyumene and Nina due to being weak to water and light. You won't have the luxury to spam Collapse this battle.
>>51103675Shitting this general for a month with twitter screenshots and a grudge definitely is an accomplishment.
>>51103690Pretty sure people would leave if you made the threads at this point just to escape the retard blogging to himself then crying when nobody wants his shit here
>>51103690The only one without a general that could hypothetically last is twinkle but I’m gonna be honest I do not understand how it ever got popular, it’s one of the most garish looking combat systems I’ve ever had the displeasure of laying my eyes upon. And it doesn’t ever shut the fuck up either. The entire game is just jingling keys like some kind of arcade rhythm game trying to be an rpg.At least it actually has a combat system, though. I guess it’s just not one I cared for is all.
>>51103697no it’s not, it’s just a testament to the amount of free time he has to waste.
>>51103706>>51103704Kind of really want to see someone make a thread now just so this place ends up alone retard blogging and samefagging himself for a grudge from years ago>look what I got chat!>boy it sure would have been useful to know these things before I did this! good thing I will never browse or go to the place where other people are discussing the game and it's strategies! hahahahaha!
>Shadow Majin Gieru in TwinkleI think this is the villain that brainwashed Apollo. Thought all the world bosses would be the girls.
>>51103710what, a twinkle thread? I mean, (you) could if you play that game I’m assuming. You could try at least. It’s the most popular game kuma has as far as I’m aware. Doubtless aigis wouldn’t last these days given how old and broken that game is. And a lot of important plot stuff being locked behind events and being comically stingy, it’s not really the most beginner friendly choice.
>>51103708The fact this shit has been going on for a month nonstop at this point is insane. Dude doesn't even play or know about the game too since he believes it's not an idle game, doesn't know any of the game scenes since it's always wrong when talking about them and fails basic gameplay questions but would rather keep up his shitposting crusade than move on or go to where everyone's actually talking about the game.Or maybe that's why he doesn't, he can't since he doesn't play it and would just be ignored instantly as a retard so his posts would stop working.
>>51103675No one calls twinkle/tonofura/gakuri idle games when all you do is set up a party and put it on autopilot.
>>51103706because its competitions is a something visually worse than a psp srpg, shitty granblue, shitty princess connect, laggy as shit tower defense, visually worse rpg maker 2015 and a disgrace to muvluv
>>51103741aigis looks great if one of those is directed at it. It’s got problems but the style definitely isn’t one of them.
>>51103734you control things manually in twinkle or at least you can and it’s fairly involved when you are controlling them manually.you don’t even have that.
>>51103745Auto maxed out calamities and tell me how it goes
>>51103726Aigis has gotten some discussions in the monmusu thread. It's not on the level of "it's own thread" but it's a TD game that is included in the constant TD fests so it tends to overlap with posters and interests since players of one might like the other one and are encouraged to try it via rewards and items.>>51103742Aigis kinda looks dated in my opinion. The graphics aren't bad since it's just pixels and a certain other game is also going for the pixel route but the UI screams "2010 game" and it desperately could use an UI/UX revamp at the very least if the devs aren't going to make an Aigis 2.It definitely would heavily benefit from making a sequel though since we need more TD games and a refresh would do it good since at this point everything in the game has been powercreeped ten times over with the prince wrapping things up on earth, the demon realm and heaven.
>>51103745>put everything on auto>vh7 boss sucked 0 mana>whole team dead
idle games are about the mechanics not the gameplaythere's several idle games that have way more gameplay and interactions than schizo abyss and are still considered idle games by both the devs and the playerbase
>>51103762Say the idle mechanics that make it an idle game then instead of using /v/ language
>>51103769The endless timers in the game? You know those clock things with the time next to them that give you things that boost your account progression? Is that simple enough or are clocks "/v/ speech" too?
>spams thread trying to start discussion of game while being actively hostile to anyone who disagrees>all players of said game run away to avoid the fallout>earns the hatred of an increasing amount of posters every dayStill not sure what the end game of all this is other than just making the thread unusable for everyone out of pure spite.
>Apollo and Fiona from the Finis Tower archive only take damage from humansI guess Luvine can't really clear everything afterall.
>>51103811"Making the thread unusable for everyone out of pure spite" is exactly what the goal is.There is legitimately more shitposting/arguing/meta in these threads now then there are posts about the actual games.
>>51103781There's no endless timers, maybe you'd know there's caps on them if you actually played the game instead of crying about seeing games you don't care about. If fixed timers count as "idle" games then mist/twinkle are all idle games. There's no auto progression, the game doesn't auto play itself and there's more active playtime than any other dmm game right now to complete your dailies. You only get a tiny bit a resources every 12 hours, so how is it an idle game. You've never played a real idle game if you think picking up loot every few hours counts.
>>51103811Who are you quoting
>>51103893If you care about the game that is so much better than every other dmm game right now so much and play it so much then why don't you go to the thread where everyone is playing it and enjoying it instead of using it to ragebait and shitpost in here for your entire waking hours with absolutely zero discussion achieved in the thousands and thousands of post you've done this? Because I've never ever heard of someone trying to advertise or get others to play a game by making the entire thread associate a game with never ending shitposting by an absolute sociopath that doesn't understand the concept of civil discussion.Like please tell me, what are you even achieving here other than just trashing the thread and making everyone leave? Getting back at that one idiot from years ago that likely doesn't even browse this thread anymore? Desperately trying to belong to a place where everyone hates your guts? Spiting the unicorns that said mean things about the NTR game?Seek help already and just leave us alone, we just want to discuss our dead games in peace without all this autism.
>>51103913Meant for this autistic fuck here>>51103882But I just don't care at this point since I'm sick of this. I thought people here were grown up adults not literal children throwing tantrums for months about the dumbest and most retarded shit ever.
>>51103916>autistic fuck>literal children throwing tantrumsA pot calling kettles black.
I've been spending more time on /vg/ as of late after the untimely death of this place and none of the threads over there get as bad as this one which makes me really sad. Thanks for reading my blog, you may now go back to your grudge wars or whatever.
>51104029baggot..
why is little yet another saintwhy has this game forgotten there's other classes
>>51103882maybe you’d know how much bullshit everything you said was if you actually played it yourself>what makes idle-Its genre is idle and all your characters attack automatically with cooldown timers on every auto-skill that has zero player input. There’s an option to manually activate one thing, or to put that on auto-pilot too, and if you do there’s literally zero gameplay. You wait for a couple minutes or less while all the battles fight themselves for you. The ONLY thing that matters is my number > your number.It’s also designed around you waiting for everything to play itself for you with the resource collection mechanics; the entire game isn’t a game as much as it is just a cutscene and the whole thing exists for no other purpose than to barely even count as a “game” just so he can attach pretty shitty sex scenes too it, scenes that are shit and not even worth the game.
>>51104407So every DMM game on the market is an idle game
Given the ip lock, how are you guys setting up games on your phones
>>51104439almost all the recent ones they’ve made are yes, Technocross and R’lyeh are equally shit. Even FKGs is ye olde idle game and just as bad.
>>51104439>reee if it’s an idle game then everything else has to be an idle game because cuck abyss can’t possibly be the thing it was advertised as!!!IdiotTD and JRPGs aren’t idle games; it’s a genre whether you accept that or not.
>>51104468>JRPGI wish
>>51104468i dont know what games you mean by jrpg, but monmusu td gameplay begins and ends at placing your units in auto mode. even on hardest stages you are never doing anything manually. cant speak for other td games because i never tried them though.now to borrow your own shtick, if you actually played the cuck game yourself, you would know that hard stages are literally unclearable without active player input from the beginning to the end. and its sole idle mechanic is literally just more convenient expedition from kancolle where you have to check back every 12 hours, to make it funnier pretty much every dmm game has this sort of mechanic.
>>51104455I play kamihime with a proton vpn and had to get the all ages google play app for legeclo then use a vpn to log in to my fanza version account to generate a transfer code to use on the all ages app which isn't region locked
>>51104256yea, not a fan of saints since their upgraded class doesn't seem great to me compared to the rest.
>>51104568nta, don’t entirely disagree with you but mmtd reached the critical mass of power creep/rapid inflation last year. in fact they actually acknowledged it in the last event they had. also the most broken/overpowered characters that facilitate being able to auto-win all the hard content as you describe without engaging in the td systems are generally either cash gated or limited with two week windows to obtain them (collaboration or specific cases); which has become a lot more apparent with the very vocal complaints regarding the current inflation as the majority of the player base finds the harder stages very difficult (sometimes unfairly so if you don’t have the broken units) and is worried they’re balancing everything around the paid and limited units instead of what’s generally available. if you don’t have the broken units, then you do need to pay attention on the hard content and manually time or coordinate skills to not waste them. mmtd even tried to host a ranked event that reportedly hit far fewer players than they were hoping because so many found it too unbearable and difficult due to being balanced around the pay gate characters; every single “meta unit” was a limited time one, and the main two meta units were both limited and cash gated. there’s clearly a discrepancy between the average player of that game and the whales for it.however, tower defense gameplay has always been about the towers in question having normal attacks they can do on their own, and then often requiring player input or oversight to make the most of them, or the player to respond to the enemy pathing and the map. tower defense also generally requires more management with resources to start and finish efficiently. mmtd is actually even more involved for a player than most of them simply by the distinction that the number of “towers” you can place is smaller, but all of the towers can actually move, allowing them to reposition, which can enable a lot of things (such as ending skills early or escaping from danger), and it’s pivotal in the harder stages if you don’t have the aforementioned broken units. oshiro:re and aigis also have similar complexity to them, even if their units are almost all immobile with only a few exceptions, due to the resource management aspects and the requirement for oversight if you don’t manage to have the broken/meta units. the problem you describe is due to their longevity rather than the system itself. powercreep is inevitable.tower defense is essentially what i would say is the closest a game can get to being an idle game without actually being an idle game, due to the requirements of having to oversee the map and pay attention to the board. the prequel game is almost a time capsule now for how it used to be and the difference is staggering. this is also a factor in why r’lyeh was criticized, because it lacks any of the tower defense management aspects the other three did (no map, all enemies move in a straight line from a to b, you don’t even need to place your “towers” and there’s no resource management, etc), which led to it being pointed as an idle game trying to look like a tower defense game, which it honestly is.my point is comparing the meta of a one month old game to a four years old game and claiming tower defense is idle and not involved because the longer running game has hit the powercreep point isn’t a good argument. the game is much more involved on average, and the powercreep to automode can very easily happen to dot abyss.i won’t criticize the gameplay since i’m not touching it, but i will say every video i have seen makes it look exactly like technocross and that’s not a good sign.
TSK 3rd Anniversary Interviewhttps://www.famitsu.com/article/202607/80848
>>51105086huh, maybe that’s bit wordy. i guess im just too meticulous or something the spoilered part is an effective tl;dr i guess but either way dot abyss was literally advertised as an idle game and based off of an older different idle game (down to the art style, crusader’s quest) you can’t really complain when its called one. it’s an “idle rpg” iirc.honestly aigis has a lot more problems than the gameplay but the gameplay’s fun enough to keep my interest. i dont ever get lucky with rolls in it though so maybe thats part of it.
>>51105086true, though i would argue that the point of no return was much earlier. like i personally dont recall putting any effort into the actual gameplay after poison rin came out, which is a shame since i still remember playing around with the root on entry girl or timing stuns with low rarity healer to clear stages.still, the point that i(and i assume the other anon too) was trying to make is that idle game labels are just pretty retarded in general and dont mean anything, could argue that its false advertising even.
8 uniques total, 3 of them rank3 and 2 rank5. what?
>>51105116well, thanks for understanding anon.poison rin ironically didn’t really stay as overpowered as she was at her time of release; she was still very strong ofc, but she’s exceedingly frail and often anytime she gets hit in the endgame content, even the stuff that was endgame a year or two ago, she’s killed immediately. but when she was new, yeah she was pretty overpowered. she’s probably the start, but i still stand by chupina being the true point of no return. i have to cut myself off though because i’ve come to realize once i start talking about its powercreep i can’t stop criticising it, and it doesn’t really accomplish anything other than probably annoying people. if you want an idea how bad it’s gotten poison rin was recently powercrept so hard she’s become completely obsolete in comparison and said unit is a new contender for the most overpowered thing in the game. i just have to accept that challenge has to come from using the older units now. i’ve seen a few players post clears beating the new boss with predominantly old units and without using the new damage multiplier mechanic or comically broken attack buffers, though, which was nice at least.also, for what it’s worth, i don’t think anyone here actually bothered to define what an idle game is. and an idle game is a game that’s designed around automated processes, generally an automated process that leads to gradual accumulation of a resources, with there being the minimal interactivity to “click” on something to interfere with the process. an idle rpg, then, would be an idle game where the majority of the automated process comes in the form of a battle system that is designed to resemble turn-based combat, and the completion of said battles being how you gradually accumulate resources, with the interference the player has being to click on certain units, in this case to use their skills. the example i have being technocross. r’lyeh is essentially an idle td, since the processes you’d normally do in a td are fully automated or irrelevant in it, and the false advertising was them hiding it was an idle game until after it had launched.as i don’t have an interest in dot abyss i can’t 100% say if this is applicable to it, it’s just that it looks like it is from everything i’ve seen is all. at bare minimum it certainly cannot be worse than rlyeh.also there’s no auto button in aigis, or at least none that I’m aware of, you have to activate all skills manually if the skill doesn’t innately do so. since the other two in the td trio built off aigis however i’m guessing this was probably complained about, so the auto feature in them is likely a qol update. aigis has also been releasing units who activate skills automatically more frequently afaik, but i digress.
>>51104568I’m talking about Aigis but someone else covered it I guess. MMTD still requires more effort than the idle game but you can make the same argument of “auto win with right units or put more effort in to win if you don’t have them” for both.Aigis has an ungodly amount of powercreep too but that’s a problem with gacha and not the gameplay itself.
>anons writing walls of text while the spambot is still reposting abyss images from discord to further ragebait
>>51105246
>>51105246Talking about discord, I checked it out and they seem to have found the thread for the cuck game and were posting screenshots and images of it.The discord guy doing a MTL of it still seems motivated but the guy that was going to make a wiki of it quit the game already and refunded everything because the game is way too stingy for him. Pretty sure I even saw the dataminer from there posting in the thread too so I guess the place is there to stay despite all the sperging out from the local retard about how the thread was made by mr poopdick schizoman and how he's not using it because of that.
https://www.famitsu.com/article/202607/80848Twinkle interview with HaseP and Kannagi, apparently Twinkle is a "very big flagship title" to them.
For HaseP, the happiest moment for him was release while for Kannagi the happiest moment was going viral with Livre because he was very happy at seeing users get excited over her and the game reaching many people.
Kannagi's favorite character is Apollo while HaseP's favorites are Feniel and Livre. Kannagi mentions pushing all his personal preferences onto the artist and the current design of Apollo was the result.
Favorite event is the magical girl series and Kannagi's hardcore love for magical girls comes up. Tomaru also comes up so we'll likely see more magical girl stuff in the future given this.HaseP mentions wanting to do corrupted characters for a while so reverse sachi was very likely his idea, probably more reverse magical girls in the future?
Upcoming story scenarios for twinkle will be side stories and after stories for arc 2 of the game while giving sneak peeks into what arc 3 will be about.HaseP also mentions really wanting a mom character that has a daughter very badly.
>>51105291does this include adult apollo
He mentions wanting to release swimsuits for the Crusaders characters and characters that haven't appeared yet. He asks people to let him know via surveys and that he will release them in order of popularity or most requested characters.Crusaders VN takes place between October to Christmas so being able to depict them in swimsuits is very important to him.>>51105303Adult Apollo was likely a story thing they were trying out and didn't work out, the interview mentions the very early development and how Apollo's concept was born so I don't think so.
Kumafes is confirmed to happen next year but they are not considering a collaboration with Dot Abyss due to overwhelming popular demand.If they do something with it, it will be something related to it alone coinciding with the Kumasan festival.The login bonus was a joint campaign between all games including dot abyss and many uses were worried and anxious about the future so going forward their policy will be to not collaborate with any titles outside of Kumasan BLACK.They would never force anything on users, especially when so many users are screaming "NO!" since their philosophy is to properly engage with users and they want to carefully listen to their opinions.
For the final point, they want to do a real life event. Ideally a live concert. They have fripside create the theme song for them every year and there are vocal songs other than the theme songs. They could also do a joint live concert with the other kumasan titles (excluding the black sheep of course).Live concerts are a staple in the bishoujo games industry so they would love to see one for Twinkle Star Knights.
>>51105317Is tks really that popular for lives...?
>>51105325If they convince (pay) fripside to do a concert then I don't see why not. They would also have enough material if they include the other non-black games and it'd be like a real life kumafest.
>>51105338I meant if they can even get enough people to attend.
>>51105344Fripside is pretty popular so they'd have the famous singer part covered. Combine that with like five games worth of people and sure, they could definitely get something going. Especially if they add incentives for going such as merch sales or codes for ingame rewards or souvenirs that can only be obtained by going to the event. Maybe not something huge like filling up the tokyo dome but they could definitely get a smaller concert going.
It's really funny how all the new fanza games being mid to trash just made the people love TSK more.
>Make new game aiming to get a new audience>Use all-new technologies and spare no budget for the h-scenes>Old and existing playerbase fucking hates it and have to keep it isolated in it's own branch>Forced to exclude it from any campaigns or events and have to keep reassuring players that the threat is being contained any time they do any sort of public appearance Pretty funny honestly, I wonder why they even bothered. At this point they should pull a Kamihime and scrub the game clean so they can include it in fests and the concert because it'd be both hilarious and sad if they actually go through with the concert and are forced to exclude the cuck game from it to avoid someone shooting it up.
we literally knew about all of that before the game even came out, how new are you?
>>51105381Initially they were considering doing small collaborations like cosplay outfits or weapons/costumes but the Japanese reaction to it has been so hilariously negative that they're just keeping it quarantined like it's patient zero.
Damn, has it really been 10 years?
>>5110539111 years ackshully
>>51105385this happened before the game came out
>>51105401What about the joint login campaign that generated even more negativity and disgust from the Japanese? Was that also before the game came out?
>>51105407the only seething that i noticed about the login campaign was local shitposter, any examples?
>any examples?The interview with the actual game developers and famitsu linked above?The entire thing I was talking about and replying to?Must be fun to live in your own reality where everyone else is the problem but never you.
>>51105418i thought that it would be very easy to show examples of the outrage since it was that bad, shame.
sorry let me dig through twitter for 10 tweets or posts for some retard obsesed with turning everything into an argument because apparently random twitter screenshots are worth more than an interview with the developers acknowledging the outrage and promising to never do it again
>>51105414>any examples?Look forward to the future where the cuck game is excluded from everything they ever do if you want examples.
>it's the dotabyss players derailing the threadNot the reaction image, green text faggot who keeps bringing it up when no one else did
>>51105449there's no dot abyss players in here anymore though? why blame them?only thing left is a retarded child that keeps turning everything into arguments he always loses and immediately abandons
hard to properly argue when you graduated from the /v/ school of arguments after all
>>51105285I guess that's how they can afford fripSide, though I in general feel like the music overall is a couple steps above average. Always felt like they put an unusually high amount of money towards the game in general.
>>51105299>corrupted charactersI await my corrupted sasha, claudia, and charlenne
>>51105478Would non-corrupted magical girls work though? Sachi's reverse thing has been a thing for a while where her extreme good luck turns into extreme bad luck and it's only recently they gave her a whole character version for it.I feel like the more likely characters are reverse Shizuha, reverse Tregianna or reverse Tomaru.
>>51105458>he always loses and immediately abandonsyes you win. congrats
i think aigis heard me because i just pulled the brand new focused unit (summer first emperor) from a single pull ticketi’m going to guess she’s probably good, right
>>51105653She's pretty good, yeah. Only issue is having to hold down her skill button for a good 20s for maximum effect (which can be interrupted by popups).
finally done with prereg for this game. kind of feels weird there wasn't a reward treadmill for the number of rolls.
>>51105800The reward treadmills kinda suck anyway. The rewards are always super small and it feels meaningless once the game actually comes out.
Twinkle started giving rewards for rank 2 for some reason.
>>51106006is it really that strange? when it came out they were giving 3k for first place for like a week or so before scaling down. its pretty obvious that they factor rank gems in the overall gem income.
>>51106006>>51106143I don't think they factor rank gems specifically and more like games have a quota of gems to meet like 'This month we will give X amount of gems' and they'll just find a way to get them to the players through events or made up celebrations/milestones.Also, it makes you look more generous if you're constantly giving out stuff, especially during anniversary.
Nice, exactly what I wanted.
>>51106006They always gave out rank 2 rewards during launch/anni
>>51105653Hardest thing for me this banner was getting the fatty>yokais came on yolo rolls fishing for platinum on all rate up>emperor came easily on her banner>rolled the black before the platinum on imlau's banner (and was left with exactly one roll to get a black which I'll save)
game is so easy now with luvine holy shit
Always has been
>>51107293Always has been honestly. Twinkle feels really hard until you get your first strong unit to build around then after that you realize just how easy the game is and why they want to add more endgame content since non-AOW contents are too easy.
>>51107434its easy too unless you are ranking and playing against other people
>0 banners, 0 events in Tenpara right nowWhat's happening? Is it finally over?
>>51107530has it been like this for a while or is it just today?
I have finally joined the club of rolling both rate ups in a single 10 roll. I'm very glad my stash ramains high for the likely onslaught of rolling I'll be doing in the near future.
>>51107533The previous event/banner just ended today.There's maintenance in a few hours, but no previews other than a new main story chapter.
tried autoing the event tower with this team since knockback isn't disabled and the buffs/debuffs weren't bad. first time making an auto team since the new unit was busted. unfortunately, the auto prioritizes her EX2 instead of her busted EX1. cleared the tower with full stars as well as the daily race boss.
>>51107542maybe they'll add something after the maint? some games I've played sometimes have a dead week but if it goes over a week then its over over>>51107549hiragana towers are easier than normal since they're aimed towards newbies/returners but auto has always sucked badly since its entire logic is use EX2 if enough EX else use EX1 and hit the charge button at the worst possible time
>>51107552true. raksha, fortunately, prioritizes EX1 even with enough bar for EX2.
>>51107555I wouldn't be surprised if ex cost reduction is completely ignored by auto.
https://x.com/tenpara_staff/status/2076577871943057410RIP chibis
>>51108179Damn, that sucks.
The new fanza icon in the store for TSK is Melel lactating
>>51108179Sad. Best game in term of respecting player's time.
>>51108179KMS KYS for real this time
should have been chinkle
Will Aigis rerun the NY banners this month or next?
finally main event premium slut
>>51108292literally the very next pull. sick, i will still have decent gem stash for swimsuits.
Which games have the MC rape the girls?
>>51108206cute
Meruel at 11 and Nezemine at 71 means I can probably get Layla's summer swimsuit form.
i will miss anon posting chibis
meruel kun......
>>51108305That Tenshoku Maou game I think
huh, theres no new tanabata voice lines this year.
We're deleting System32.There is no more Twinkle after this.
>>51108179damn...didn't expect this so soon after the "no banner/event" post.
should I play Twinkle to learn Japanese?
>>51109624sure why not
>>51108534I'll be around. >>51103287 (me)The news does come as a bummer and I'll miss having easy webm material.
praying for the death of techcronoss before 2027
Finally, Shino.
poking tomaru flat chest
Techcronoss won't make it before it's first anniversary.
nezemine new outfit has nipple bulges, only visible on fanza version. very nice.
>Neze gets the human second and Meruel gets the demon secondWell I wasn't expecting them to get a second and most certainly not this way.
>Unable to receive Macaron from missionIs it supposed to be tomorrow or something, who knows at this point.
After all these """QoL""" improvements in Twinkle they still can't get the gacha animations to automatically play if I have to ticket the whoreOn that note I had to ticket Nova Neze while I pulled Nova Meruel 3 goddamn times (and also somehow pulled both normal Neze and Meruel before any other 3 stars)
The loading times in Tenkei are brutal.
Give it to me now.
another 200 rolls down the drain, I won't have enough for rabi at this rate
>>51110362actually strange design choice since they most certainly can do that. the animation plays whenever you upgrade a low rarity unit to 3star.
oooh finally swimsuits, and it's the jannies like I predicted
oh I got the gyaru janny too while rolling for it, I wanted her too
>>51110582from the same 10 roll
damn, made me roll until pity from 20 tokens to 200, they're fleecing people with the rates huh, well whatever I was saving the gems for swimsuits anyways
>>51110589Good thing the spark currency in Muv Luv stays through banners, meaning you can keep rolling and get enough chips for another unit you may like.
https://gamereach.net/krst/ranking/Apparently this site has a twinkle tierlist and it's decent?
>>51110608I had 20 left over from before but it still made me pull 180 times, rate up my ass lmao
>>51101972is this a first? maybe i never paid attention, but this is first time i have seen rates this high. i feel like legeclo is very generous lately.
>>51110589Should I roll?I'm still kinda new
>MTG suddenly drops an event without any ingame or twitter noticeTrainbros...we're approaching our final station stop.
>>51111033I mean I just roll for whichever girl I want to see the sex scene of, if you're asking about meta then sometimes I look at https://kamigame.jp/muvluv-gg/page/385590674579286554.html to see which characters should I level up, I dunno how reliable it is but it's whatever for me really, people do use the units in pvp that this site says are the top meta though so it's probably accurate, according to it both of the new units are kinda mid though
>>51111033I think you do generally want your party to be a healer a tank and then 3 damage dealers though, that Shirona version is a good healer, but from that screenshot it seems like you don't have a tank, aside from the crappy starter ones, unless you have one if you scroll down, if you care about gameplay somewhat then you should probably prioritise getting a decent tank
>>51110923yea, was just about to make a post about this. 2.4% is insane.
>>51111050MTG should be safe because tenkei is trying to channel their players into muvluv and MTG.otogi on the other hand, is being doomposted so hard
twinkle already foreshadowing the big new story release at the end of operation pentagram
I just started playing KamiPro again after a few years and I had all this bullshit in my inbox. What do I do with all these garbage rares? Weren't we able to sell them before? This is giving me dementia.
>>51111064Maybe the true Star Knights were the Twinks we made along the way
>>51111286there's settings for auto selling/scrapping in the equipment menu
legenerous clover..
>>51111369Sorry for asking for the spoonfeed but I can't find it for the life of me. Any chance of a screenshot?
the last one of these JUST ended on the 13th and there is another one already? also legeclo upgraded their tickets to a 1 SSR guaranteed 10 pull.
>>51111385it's on the present box page or your inventory page after pressing the big red 還元 button
>>51110406looks like she's the event memory so it's easy to get at least but this means that she's probably not among the playable ones
Seeing the EoS of Tenkei made me think on which is going to be the first Kumasan gacha to bite the dust, my bet is on GC.
>>51111930isnt it doing fine these days? or at least i remember somebody here saying so
All Kumasan gachas are doing fine. It's only KMS that should be trimming their fat.
>>51111985Mist is run by KMS so KMS should trim some fat so that the first Kuma gacha bites the dust
If FKG isn't the first kuma game to bite the dust then I'll be really surprised
>>51112019>Mist is run by KMSthis is getting confusing. why is mist train part of kumafes if its run by a different company?
>>51112021fkg is adopted so doesn't count
>>51112034KMS and Kumasan are intertwined closely and they collaborate all the time.
>>51112051Correction: A lot of DMM studios are interwined closely since FANZA/EXNOA is like one big clusterfuck, I mean, family.
>>51112034Because Kuma produced it, KMS is just running it. The only games Kuma is running themselves is gakuri and dot
>>51112052HaseP and others used to work at KMS and later formed Kumasan.
>>51112053The latest famitsu interview said that Twinkle is like a big flagship title to them so I'd assume they're running that too.
>>51112055That too, just forgot since they made a big deal about Gakuri being their first wholly owned game iirc.
>KMS + kuma FKGMTG>KMS onlyotogitenkei (eos soon)muvluv>kuma onlymonmusutwinkleGCdot abyss
>>51112066There's others too like Rlyeh that had some Kuma assistance.DMM games are probably just one big orgy where all the companies exchange technology, artists and overall help
>>51112066Well if you want to put it that way Kumasan also worked on ReOath.
>unskippable free single pull animation100% gonna be a spook>mizugi as like the first character in the phrase>it's IxyWell I could always use more Ixy in my life.>>51110362I bet it's because it opens a window and the way said window is programmed it can't do anything else before or after the pop up. Or something dumb like that.>>51110617Of the ones that I have I never even bothered to use them. Some I haven't even bothered to build because they were dick rolls primarily and they just sounded strong.
I'm trying your game muvluvfags. I can do 40 rolls per reroll. How much of a greedy cunt should I be when doing rerolls? I got Lydia whom I was aiming for, Julie (snowman), Luna (fattie).Should I just stick to rerolling until I get Lydia + 1 SSR from the first 10 roll or how much am I gonna get showered with rolls? I'm used to needing 400 rolls for anniversary and I know your anniversary is sometimes next month.
>>51110617don't koharuko and luluka have a near identical kit but different element? I thought maybe she was ranked higher since xmas rabi was electric/demon, but she isn't even in S rank. also I just rolled retishia on free rolls, better go check out her kit.
>>51112157Depends which koharuko/luluka but base Koharuko stands out for having a CT reduction that lasts 30CT which is huge though she keeps getting featurecrept by CT reducers that do reduction + buff while Koharuko can only reduce. New Nezemine is basically Koharuko Promax too.Xmas Luluka has a very reliable and braindead EX2 too
>>51112156>I'm used to needing 400 rolls for anniversary and I know your anniversary is sometimes next month.Wasn't muvluv anniversary around Kumafes?
>Muv Luv back at rank 1They love their gigantic tiddies don't they.
>>51112172I don't know what that is, but wiki says it's the first week of september which is pretty much this month. My dick already figured out that I will reroll for both Lydia and the titty swimsuit. Thanks for nothing anyway.
>>51112194I'm not a muvluv player so I can't answer your question, I just remember Muvluv having a celebration around March/April.Though if you add 6 months to it then I guess the date would land around september so I guess it'd be correct.Damn, time really goes fast.
Also Girls Creation at rank 6, but this will be the first Kumasan gacha that dies according to that anon.
>>51112201Isn't it just fkg
got evil mone on the free single, i hope she doesn't rape me in her h-scene
>>51112160the ones in the picture under god tier. the base forms aren't listed.
>>51112252They are, they're just far down
thanks I guess. I'll get her to 4 stars the next time we get those anniversary star pieces.
Rank 6 for a company that buys rankings is basically rank 30. Let alone on banner day.
>>51112156As someone who logs and rolls into muv luv. All units are permanent and become avalible in the normal banner with the exception of the collab units (Muv Luv Alternative and Total Eclipse)
>>51112287Okay I thought swimsuits would be limited too. Fuck em then, I'm keeping this since I haven't gotten anything better since.
>>51111736Why would they do this to me?
So what is the gameplay of イヴンタイト?I got the blue android girl
>>51112328I'm hoping that the unplayable girls in events will come back next year, the game hasn't been out for a year yet and the events are based on seasons (halloween, christmas, new years, christmas) so I imagine they'll be rerunning them, and then it would make sense if the unreleased girls got released>>51112156if you roll for meta then you'll need an ungodly amount of rolls, but the game does give a lot of rolls out so it's not that bad, rerolling I don't think matters a huge amount because there's no single one unit that'll make your account strong, those 3 units are not that bad, but they're not amazing either, if you're rerolling for meta units though then I think Reira (Layla? Leila?) is the highest value, she's a permanent unit in every high rank pvp team that I see>>51112287>>51112321not all btw, Hiiro and Dolothea don't enter the standard pool iirc and you can only get them through their specific banners and the collab units are not permanent and don't enter the gacha pool either, and there are some meta units among them
>>51112328damn she's fat
>>51112556she looks fatter in her base version, looks like they made her lose some weight
I like the gyaru's subtle school swimsuit tanline
>>51112558I want to pinch this fatty's love handles
>>51111678Thank you, Anon.
>>51112503don't think they've shown any gameplay yet.
seeing a lot of twinkle newbies latelyguess the livre effect brought a lot of new people
Reading the words "full-auto idle RPG" causes a violent reaction in meJapan could we please not do this like ever again?
FIONA NO!COME BACK!
>>51113543retard
>>51112156Is the blonde loli still on banner?
>>51113525it is what it is, japan can't make games anymore while china and korea are not allowed to make porn games
>>51113559yeah it has 23 hours left
>>51113560They can though. Aigis and Monmusu are pretty fun as games. I'd say Twinkle is fun too even though it has a severe lack of endgame.I thought Girls Creation had decent gameplay but could never get into it personally. And of course, Legeclo has very nice RPG gameplay.We need more games like that with them bothering to give their games at least some sort of gameplay instead of this bullshit where they advertise and brag about the lack of gameplay like it's a selling point, I hate that shit.
>>51113573I'm sorry Unc but it's time to accept that they don't make games for you anymore
>>51113581Honestly I'd say even Techcronoss had okay gameplay since it was just priconne but that game had horrible balance and worse income
Techcronoss really was another big waste of really cute designs and characters
>>51113560Why are all the AI slop porn games on dmm China based then
>>51112554But you can, that's how I got Dorothea.
Joined purely as a number for free gems and have mostly ignored it, but I took a quick peek at the Twinkle discord. Pretty interesting cultered people in there, one guy was posting cropped pics purely of faces saying so many faces alone are erotic enough to jerk off to. Another guy was going on about how nipples are a little off in how they look or something in the angles presented in a couple scenes. Gotta wonder what kind of other crazy stuff goes on in Japanese R18 communities.
>>51114106You should've stayed there
>>51114106Go back.
>>51114106I could have gone the rest of my life without realizing nipple autism existed and you had to go ruin that for me. I hope you're happy.
>>51114106>Gotta wonder what kind of other crazy stuff goes on in Japanese R18 communities.They made an official discord for twinkle so you can just check.
>>51114265You go back too.
>>51114106fun fact a large amount of them post here
>>51114265whats wrong with nipple autism
>>51114125>>51114228>>51114270>>51114281>Joined purely as a number for free gemsOh yeah that western Twinkle discord is recruiting members to give out gems in game. You guys should join in too, maybe we'll get 3k with your help. Ask your favorite AI for the invite link, because I have no idea what it is.
dark cata, please stop jamming a black thing in therethat looks very painful
