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Discussion concerning Higurashi, Umineko, Rose Guns Days, Higanbana, TRianThology, and all other 07th Expansion works.

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cisheteroaryan
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Do (You) think R07 is pro or anti takaichi?
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>>51166873
Cute and Canon!
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>>51166873
Hinamizawas greatest criminal btw
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>>51166882
Village onaholes
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“No, Rika, I will peg Big Brudder first.”
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Knox 5th doesn't appear in Umineko because Beatrice wouldn't be possible (tranny following the stereotype and joining the 41%).
>>51166872
He is anti-war, so he probably doesn't like her.
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why have i seen this thread recreated like 3 times?
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>>51166872
are far right nettoyoku like r07 still supporting the current regime? that's not the impression i get on twitter
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>>51166961
Fat fuck janny scum kept nuking it despite the thread already being 14 days old
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>>51166961
ADHD retard didn't like that the old thread reached its time limit and couldn't wait for it to die so he kept making it and jannies kept deleting it. Its alright desu, they are paid to clean it up.
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Imagine this: you are K1 and lost today's game with the girls and as a punishment you MUST choose one of them to lick and smell her sweaty armpits for 10 minutes.
Chie and Takano are part of the game too.

Who are you choosing to do this punishment with?
The rest of the girls will give you this look while you do it.
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>>51166981
Chie because I've been craving curry lately so I bet her sweat would smell like it
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>>51166981
Rika~chama especially if she looks at me like human trash
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>>51166961
Impatience.
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>>51166860
Satokei is real
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>>51166981
Chie and Takano because they have armpit hair and the most
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Happy birthday!
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>>51167116
Happy birthday to the true culprit as well.
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>>51166961
3? More like 20
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>>51167123
Desuu~~~
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I wonder, did BT's death affect Umineko's ending? EP 8 is all about moving on and finding happiness, although it would be strange and somewhat irresponsible to make a change of plans this late in the project. It is rather peculiar that its message would be the type of thing that would resonate with Ryukishi at the time.
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>>51167775
BT's death affected Beatrice's gender too
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>>51167123
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>>51167812
gotta fuck that smug off her face
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>>51167116
Wait, I thought this guy died already?
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>>51166860
MUMBAItoko
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>>51166957
troon hands typed this post.
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>>51168507
Go back
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Do you remember what theories you had while reading Umineko? I couldn't reach the canon solution, but I think I got kinda close.

Common elements in all games:
>different culprits in each game, or Gohda with the help of different accomplices for each game
>all games ended at midnight because Gohda poisoned everyone during dinner, leading to their deaths
>the motive was either money or the fact that the servants actually believed they were going to revive Beatrice by following the epitaph's ritual
>the meta-world is actually the Noosphere; the Rokkenjima murders were unsolvable to the police, so people started to believe that the only possible explanation was magic, giving "birth" to Beatrice. She needs to convince Battler because he is the last obstacle to her revival

In the first game:
>Gohda and/or Krauss and/or Sayo faked their deaths, and one of them killed Nanjo, Kuwasama, Genji and Natsuhi
>Kanon and Genji lied that Eva's room was locked
>Kanon died in an accident

2nd game:
>the servants and Rosa either lied that the chapel was locked, or Maria locked the door for them after the murder
>Gohda lied that he left Jessica and Kanon alone; he actually killed them and got rid of Kanon's corpse
>Gohda and the servants killed Nanjo and Kuwasama and blamed Kanon
>one of the people in Natsuhi's room killed the other two occupants, then killed themselves

Game 3:
>the servants were shot, and each one of them tried to retreat to a room; although their wounds were fatal, their cause of death was poisoning, which stopped their hearts, killing them instantly
>Eva killed Maria, Rosa, Natsuhi and Krauss
>someone, most likely Hideyoshi, survived the mansion shootout and killed Nanjo

Game 4:
>Gohda and Kuwasama killed everyone in the dining room, used some poison to incapacitate the survivors, and imprisioned in the Kuwadorian, and killed they at some point
>Jessica and Kyrie were threatened into telling Battler those things and were killed shortly afterwards
>Gohda killed Kuwasama and they he hanged himself but before dying he commites suicide by shooting himself in the head
>Battler's confrontation with Beatrice was actually a hallucination caused by poison
>Battler's real mother is Kyrie; he got switched at the hospital
>Battler's sin was something that he did or didn't do during the 1980 family conference, which accidentally led them down a dark path
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>>51168746
>Do you remember what theories you had while reading Umineko?
I just blamed magic for everything like a sane normal person would instead of this schizobabble
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>>51168899
>just blamed magic for everything
You spent a 100 hours just reading the vn without trying to solve it even after episode 3, 5 and 6 basically say to you that its solvable without magic?
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>>51168915
Yes because magic is cooler than reality
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>>51168899
I did this too lmao, I started reading Umineko right after Higurashi and just assumed magic and gods were real right off the bat
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why do so many anons think Beatrice is tranny?
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>>51168997
Beatrice herself isn't a tranny because she is a concept/persona created by someone with intense gender dysphoria, Yasu (Shannon/Kannon). This what the manga tells:
>Yasu was pushed down a cliff by Natsuhi which caused irreversible damage to her lower abdomen area
>Nanjo had to do some invasive surgery to save his/her life, which made Sayo sterile
>Yasu didn't have periods and didn't grow breasts (which made her extremely insecure), possibly because the surgery fucked up her hormones or because she was actually a man
>as a coping mechanism she/him created a persona, Kanon, to be her/him little brother. When her/him was Shannon, she/he use pads in her bosom to simulate big boobs
You can make a case that she lost her utherus because of the fall, which made her more androgyneous, or you can say the he lost his balls and dick and Genji and Nanjo raised him as a female to not reveal the truth to her.
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>>51166860
Satoko's big udders
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>>51169048
There is some evidence for both, but I do think that Yasu being female makes more sense.
Evidence for male:
>Natsuhi thinks that she talking to "the man of 19 years ago"
Evidence for female:
>there wouldn't be a risk for Kinzo sinning again (fucking/impregnating Beatrice) because if Yasu was male, he wouldn't look like neither Beatrice 1 and 2
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manga differs with the novel ehh, kanon was simply created to cope with loneliness since battler wouldn't visit the island. the truth to the surgery was revealed very later, just one year before battler returned. so I don't think any "kanon created because gender something something" holds up.
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>>51168375
You could say Mugihito is keel
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>>51168915
In fairness, coming from Higurashi, you had a ghost that could stalk people and turn back time while Rika stopped a bullet with time stop.
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>>51169746
Happed to me once irl
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MUMBAIon
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>>51169876
?
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>>51170414
Ryukishi is based
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>>51170414
Pic unrelated?
She doesn't hate herself. And the cucking part is only because she is his favorite and it's his fetish.
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>>51170771
Pic very related.
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>>51170414
He really loves creating women that get treated badly...
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>>51170772
Your first line fits Shion better though.
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What if Yasu's pubert kicked in and her boobs started to grow and she had a period while being Kanon during the family conference?
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>>51171709
that would be pretty cool and epic haha
she's either killing herself or having bloody messy mindbreaking sex with battler within the hour, take your pick
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>>51170868
Troonppei only gets treated badly in Gou though.
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>>51171120

Shion really only hates herself when her rampage happens and she then realizes she was wrong, otherwise she mostly blames the outside world (which is why her rampage starts in the first place).

Mion is the one that blames herself for their situation, blames herself for being unable to do anything to stop the fall out of the Dam War from hurting the Hojo, for being unable to help Satoshi before he disappeared, for going along with her family traditions when they wanted to punish Shion... Like the whole thing with her inflicting the same punishment on herself afterwards is to show she felt guilty for what she done to Shion.

It's just none of this ever goes anywhere she never had an arc of her own in the original story (and in Gou/Sotsu her "arc" was just mimicking Shion but with actual motivations replaced by "she's so crazy and in love with Keiichi!").
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>>51172073
The abuse whoretoko suffered in his manly, remorseless old hands still happened in every single kakera....
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Best Rika ship nano desu
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The thing that I want the most is ______.
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>>51173936
Satoko to be happy
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Was anything gonna happen for comiket again?
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>>51172757
>>51172764
Cute and Canon!
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>>51174339
No, R07 doesn't participate there since Ciconia's delays. It's always stuff in 07th Expansion only events now.
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>>51173920
Why does everything have to be a "ship"
That picture just shows her obsession with the queen carrier
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>>51173936
To erase most higurashi content other than the original VN out of my head
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>>51173936
Gou/Sotsu season 3
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>>51173936
the live hanging of that fucking hack Ryukishi
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>>51175249
You know, Tohya is kinda of asshole. He looked for someone that could have been on Rokkenjima on the day of the accident, found a probably suicidal girl with parents that still coped that she could have been alive and wrote her to be a mad intelectual rapist and actual pervert that would decapitate a bunch of people including a child just to prove a point.
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>>51176467
and then got her (almost) hitched to the other version of him that he still hated at the time for crippling his ass too, dude had a vendetta for this chick he never met
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>>51176467
Her bio suggests various people did that, it's not just the Tohya forgeries.
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>>51176679
making her the killer is one thing, making her a horny freak up to degenerate shit is another
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>>51173912
Rude, no one pointed out her bony hands in the novel, what's the point of doing here, that's just transphobic
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>>51177227
Forgor the 2nd pic
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Found this while browsing old threads on warosu, original link didn't work, but it has screenshots on internet archive.
https://web.archive.org/web/20230214022839/http://07hokan.net/



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