>>51179788
I think the LGBT movement in recent years just left a bad taste in a lot of western mouths.

>>51179822
yuri is only tangentially related to lgbt though

it is trans coded

>>51179788
Women who don't wanna fuck men might as well be men themselves, doubly so if they wanna fuck women, and triply so if they grow dicks to do so. Yuri is just yaoi same.

>>51179788
because /jp/ is full of fags

>>51179788
jaypee is a futa board

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>>51179788
Yuri is only hot if you don't see women as human beings.
Would you bring in another woman for a threesome with your wife?
If you think girls are things then the more the merrier, but if you think girls are people, there is another person fucking your wife.

>>51179788
/jp/ is an anti-Epstein board

>>51179788
I don't feel cucked by it, I feel disgusted.
Like stepping in a shit.

>>51179788
I don't.

>>51179875
I do see women as human beings, but I really don't see yuri relationships as equivalent to straight ones. I think I don't even actually consider them relationship, it's just a different thing for me

>>51179885
it's ok to be a homosexual who doesn't like the sight of two erotic women but you don't have to compare them to shit

>>51179900
ok yuricuck, whatever you say

>>51179903
faggot.

>>51179905
Yeah sure, I'm the faggot for liking straight sex instead of homosexual one.

>>51179881
/jp/ against child sex trafficking

>>51179788
/jp/sies have cosplay sex with each other ALL the time they love yuri

>>51179898
Are you a girl yourself?
Because if you are not let me give you the opposite perspective.
>I do see men as human beings, but I really don't see yaoi relationships as equivilent to straight ones. I think I don't even actually consider them relationships, it's just a different thing for me.
You are no different from the fujoshi that fantasizes about being eaten out by a man who is getting fucked in the ass.

>>51179936
>You are no different from the fujoshi that fantasizes about being eaten out by a man who is getting fucked in the ass
and what exactly is wrong with that????

>>51179937
it's gay for start

>>51179788
Hmm let's see
Cuckholdry
Futa/Yuri fags are insufferable as fuck
Futa porn usually being grotesque or loli
Deltarune chapter 5
And you wonder why people don't like it

>>51179947
oh, dude, you forgot the amazing digital circus.
Was actually enjoying a western show dor once until it turned out to be all just self validation of a loser cuck.
Really could have lived my whole life without learning what transbian meant.

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>>51179937
That you are a porn addict without the mental capacity to think of people as human beings.

>>51179947
yuri is not cuckoldry
futa has nothing to do with this
not sure what is wrong with loli either
yuri in ch5 is functionally straight actually repulsive cuckoldry made for tumblrfags
>>51179955
your terms are acceptable

>>51179971
>yuri is not cuckoldry
source?

>>51179974
it's just moe

>>51179977
It's not moe if it's disgusting

>>51179978
it's not disgusting

>>51179981
It is homosexual, therefore it is disgusting

>>51179984
you don't even have to be ok with homosexuals to like yuri

>>51179788
I like 2hus kissing, pressing their breasts together and switching underwear
I strongly dislike romance between 2hus

>>51179971
>proving my point

>>51179788
I don't mind yuri, I'm just not into it (like shipping in general) I like the porn
But, yurifags are an annoying bunch and they have gotten worse over the years, they are a very loud minority who use mob tactics to validate their fanfiction

Marisa finger banged their girl and they never recovered emotionally

>>51180019
Honestly this. From my experience they also tend to be futafags and cucks

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>>51179788
I don't mind yuri. Anyone who claims they do either hasn't been into this series for more than a few years or consumes a very restrictive diet of fan content.
I DO mind the non-sequitur ritualposting.
And I do dislike yuri activists attempting to push their delusions as anywhere canon-adjacent. Nothing wrong with shipping, folks. But no, you do NOT know the characters better than the creator, acckschtually, or whatever other mental gymnastics are in vogue right now. It's just your personal reimagining. Nothing more, nothing less. Same as any other overly interpretative sub-fandom and their nonsense.

>>51179875
>Would you bring in another woman for a threesome with your wife?
Here's the thing. Touhous aren't real. I can imagine them doing whatever, and it has no bearing on anything. Least of all what the character is like in the original work, AKA the only work that counts.

It's fine if it's just sex.
It becomes a problem when they try to make it romantic and pretend that women are capable of love, which we all know isn't true.

>>51179875
>Would you bring in another woman for a threesome with your wife?
Yes.

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>>51179788
The AGP pipeline is real. Yuri fags will claim to be heterosexual people who only like girls but end up playing doll dress up and self inserting.

I have never met a single yurifag that wouldn't be an absolute retard.

>>51179788
People hate yuritroons, who are annoying, can't keep they shit to their own space, they make others feel cucked by yuri because yuritroons love cuckposting which affects the way people see yuri and I've seen artists who stopped liking yuri because of that (I also read that post-pandemic yuritroons completely corrupted the genre and made all about "lesbian sex" which apparently, yuri wasn't all about that). They are self-hated misandrists with autogynophilia, many of them are actual trannies so they are also very politically opinionated (woke) and poison every environment they inhabit with their views.
I never liked yuri because I don't like homossexuality, seeing people from the same sex kissing each other is disgusting unlesss one of them is crossdressing or has a genitalia from the opposite sex, sorry, but it's a natural response. When yuritroons became more numerous, during the pandemic, they become too cancerous and difficult to ignore so now I actually hate it.

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>>51179788
transsexual cuckold fetish down to its very core, I will continue to call it yurigarbage forever

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I like love stories, and not just the yuri ones. It isn't even sexual: I just like the melodrama and the psychology involved. Plus it's cathartic when the "will they won't they" gets resolved. Romance makes for interesting character dynamics, and since I like Touhou characters, I'm intrigued by stories about romance between them. I also enjoy the straight fanfics about love between a 2hu and a (usually nondescript) Anon.

I think both sides of this "war" are more alike than they are different: they both feel the need to crusade against those with different preferences, as well as those who aren't even involved. Of course both sides claim they aren't the aggressor, although it's impossible to prove who shot first.

>>51180077
yeah i completely agree
>>51180204
famously performative people ruin everything, nothing new. im glad some anons agree that it's not the substance of the content itself but the audience that surrounds it is the problem
>>51180491
all very true and based

>>51179788
yurifags, should have stick to their lane, but they decided to be obnoxious

>>51179788
I don't think anyone actually hates yuri as much as what it represents. The genre often sets an emotional standard that is desirable, but unattainable for most straight men. Most yuri is either deeply intimate or unashamed to be happy with someone else (hence why so much of it is soft). So even when the basis for attraction is so simple it's paper-thin, the fantasy conveyed is that you still have the right to express those feelings and that it's okay for you to be happy. Even though the demographic for yuri (mostly men and mtf) may not be self-inserting as they read, there definitely is some vicarious projection given the way they speak on this angle to romance so fervently where they wouldn't for other forms of it.

The problem here is that what's ideal about romantic fiction isn't what's ideal for an actual romance; let alone the complex reality of partnership that comes with it. Yuri, in "simply being" so soft and accepting, also undercuts the idea we can or should ever be self-critical. Which is how you get the conflict between yuri fans and detractors. The fans can't help but express what they like that they wish more people would accept, but the detractors simply don't see themselves as part of that.

Hence also why you'll see a lot of people refer to the most avid fans as "yuricucks". Because to them, it's a lot of dishonest fantasizing about something they can't have, while essentially giving up on themselves from doing better, telling themselves it's happiness. Men don't want to be around other such men, the same way people don't want to be around people of certain qualities they don't want to fundamentally accept. It's not that people feel cucked by yuri as much as yuri (in their perception) happens to attract people whose thought patterns and self-perception bear a strong resemblance to actual cucks

>>51180556
At first I thought "this post sounds like it was written by a person who's never consumed a yuri work in their life" but then I realized it was just meandering AI slop. Shame on me.

>>51180593
Academic typing styles predate AI you fucking moron

>never consumed a yuri work in their life
Explain how you figured this without sounding illiterate

>>51180610
You sound like a nerd who needs to be dicked down hard

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my issue with yuri is entirely due to the fandoms with bunch of angry weird trans people making everything weird with their headcanon and hostile takes. i like yuri as a genre but i actively avoid discussing it because of the trans freaks that make every community cringe.

>>51180653
Means nothing on me when projecting faggotry is your default

>>51180556
>demographic for yuri (mostly men and mtf)
More like lesbos and forbidden-love worshiping fujoshi

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>>51180787
>More like lesbos and forbidden-love worshiping fujoshi
yuri is trooncoded

>>51179828
this. look at every yuri fanbase and it's troons

>>51180822
>yuri is trooncoded because trannies say it is
you are literally giving ground to people you hate

>>51180787
Hilariously I've seen way more male than female yuri fans. The ratio is like 9:1 in my experience

>>51180787
>More like lesbos and forbidden-love worshiping fujoshi
Straight up lying to yourself. Maybe this used to be true in the past, but nowadays most yuri fans are males.
>>51180938
Most yuri fans (or at least the most vocal ones) are trannies or self-hating losers who are only one step away of trooning out due to their autogynophilia (while coping by telling themselves they are straight).

>>51180787
>lesbos
Lol no, you might think gays are into yaoi too

>>51181060
>Most yuri fans (or at least the most vocal ones) are trannies or self-hating losers who are only one step away of trooning out due to their autogynophilia (while coping by telling themselves they are straight).
you are talking about a vocal performative minority that doesn't actually care. why would you need to cope by saying you are straight if you have politics of a tumblrfag?

>>51180938
it's not my job to gatekeep yuri from its primary userbase because I don't give a fuck about it and neither do you apparently

>>51180938
I am not "giving ground" to them because yurigarbage is not aimed at me but at fags, so stfu cuck.

>>51180446
yurifags are gross and retarded. period end of story.

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>>51179788
This is a gay board.

>>51179875
>Would you bring in another woman for a threesome with your wife?
If me and my wife could find a women we both like, she could 100% be our gf we share, if she was Japanese it would just make things even better.

>>51179788
It doesn't.

Outsider here, first time coming to this board in my long history in this site... Why the hate on lesbian anime? Is lesbian anime and yuri not the same thing? Why are trannies ruining it?

>>51181098
then don't complain if something is filled with trannies because you think there is such thing as "trooncoded"
>>51181726
the content of this thread clearly suggests the opposite

>>51179788
if you stayed in your containment board /u/, nobody would mind

>>51181799
that's like saying all anime should be in /h/

I think yuri is only liked by otaku who've never touched breasts in their lives and masturbate to that, and yaoi is simply for girls who want to see attractive men kissing.

>>51181817
>otaku who've never touched breasts in their lives
Literally me
(I like both)

>>51181817
Why is wanting to watch two sexy anime chicks have sex so bad?

Yurincels are the most fragile people on the planet.
They will literally do anything to try and dox or bully you off the internet if you dare to draw dykes being heterosexual or even talk about it.

But they'll claim that it's always fine for them to obnoxiously inject their fetish into everything.
Same as the footfags, same as futafags, same as furfags. The same type of human cancer.

I really used to not mind yuri like 10 years ago. Never cared about it, but now every time I see it it's proof some walking time bomb is attempting to infect a community or set fire to it if things don't go his way(actual lesbians typically don't do this shit, it's always a deranged dude doing it). They're always so militant about it, too.

whether you're a yurifag or antiyurifag if you're an annoying retard about it you should die

>>51179824
Are you fucking retarded? Yuri is like a holy icon and the perfect tool for the lgbt movement.
They use it to pry open doors to any community and then once enough of them are in they take their masks off and start inviting all the undesirables in.
Ask anyone who claims to be a part of lgbt what they think of yuri and whether it's part of their movement. Do it.

because i dont like looking up fanart of my waifu only for half of it to be her being reduced to an ooc lobotomized fucking moeblob for the sake of a garbage nothingburger ship with the worst character in the series by drooling fucking retards that dont care about her in the first place

>>51182721
"-yuri" "-females only"

>>51182743
I shouldn't have to go through the humiliation ritual of having to write that.

>>51182743
Problem with that is that people don't know how to tag, so you'll be filtering plenty of normal fanworks.

>>51182752
and still find yurigarbage because its not tagged "yuri" unless theyre explicitly making out or some shit

I like yuri because it is cute

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>>51183232
Same!

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>>51179788
Yuri has long had a place on /jp/ and in the broader otaku sphere, but over the past several years has found itself at the center of a conflict between outsider ideologues seeking to inject their perceived implications of the genre into those who enjoy it. Or maybe people are simply fighting over fetishes whilst throwing out crossboarder lingo at each other. All that aside, does /jp/ still like MariMite?

>>51180556
You're right, but you forget that giving up on reality and making yourself into someone who can enjoy fiction to the fullest, rather than someone who dishonestly tries to make fiction and everything else in their life a tool for a greater purpose, is what defines otaku in general. If you really care about your long-term ability to have a normal life and healthy relationships, you should get the fuck off 4chan and not consume ANY otaku media. If on the other hand you're only here to enjoy yourself, there's no need to allow such distractions as sexual insecurity or Western political diseases to occupy your mind in any capacity.

/pol/tards mindbroken by trannies
>>51179828
pottery

>>51184180
You are the only one bringing up /pol/shit.

Ok guys but we're talking about yuri not yuri fans or fandom. also why the fuck are you into yuri media created by murricans and then complain it's retarded? just stick to eastern yuri media baka

>>51184311
>just stick to eastern yuri media baka
It's the same shit

>>51181860
nta but I like seeing two sexy anime chicks making out, but I won't want to think nor care about the "feelings" behind it

>>51184317
nope, murrica's media are woke garbage with pronouns and niggers, of course is different

>>51184311
We're talking to an op who's asking why people hate it, the reasons for which can still include its fans

>>51183962
Nah. What you're describing is just giving up on yourself. But even if all that was true, what I'm really saying either way is that you can still hate the way a certain group of people act

>>51179788
I want Marisa to feel up my armpits and maybe kiss them as she autistically infodumps about milk lines and says the pads of fat are basically breasts

>>51184642
judging media by its fans is retarded

>>51184655
Yeah but so is pretending there's zero association during actual discussions of it

>>51184311
For one, it's important to draw the distinction so as to avoid unnecessary conflation.
Secondly, the fans can unfortunately impact your experience of the genre, especially if you intend to purchase, say, official translations. We all know how ridiculously Americanized those can be.

>>51179788
I don't hate yuri but the bulk of it is simply not well-written. It tends to use the concept same-sex relationships as the main draw and a substitute for actual, believable character writing and romance. You can only read "B-b-but we're both girls!!!!" so many times before you start to roll your eyes. Touhou yuri tends to be rife with this.

>>51184311
>>51184655
I think the argument that a [thing] can be disliked purely because of association with certain retarded groups is perfectly valid.
And yurifags always being annoying faggots plays a huge factor on the opinion people have on yuri itself.
For example, a lot of people dislike Touhou because of the way /v/tards or /qa/fags behave. Or, if you can even remember that, because magatards used Momiji for their old meme campaign back when T***p was first elected. These people are not going to give 2hu a try and you probably shouldn't blame them for it. Hey, if my first exposure to Touhou was the sewage threads /v/ makes, I'd probably avoid it too.
It can be true for any fandom. A lot of people hate Sonic or laugh at sonicfags because of all those deviantart kiddies drawing donuts the steelhogs, all the weird autistic fanfiction and furry fetishes, etc. Or, you know, they laugh because of Chris Chan. I personally regard Sonic as trash too, but even I can tell that I'm not really giving the series a fair shot.
And that's alright.
I'm not gonna give any gacha games a shot either, just like I'm not gonna go watch holoshit just to make sure it's shit and my hatred of holofags is justified. Just like I'm not gonna dig up mlp episodes to justify shitting on bronies back when they tried to convert nearly everyone on the internet into liking their cartoon horses(or fetish?). Did YOU watch or "play" any of that? These fandoms being rather unpopular in certain circles shouldn't stop you. Right?

And it can be true for yuri in general. You are perfectly aware that 99% of the time yurifags are as annoying as humanly possible, if not vitriolically hostile. Like autistically spamming entire threads to death or attacking waifufags/heterosexuals, or trying to convert people to their fetish - something yurifags and those weird tf/crossdressing fags tend to do too...
There were plenty of examples of such behavior on /jp/ alone in the last few years. You know, every time someone mentioned having a waifu or expressed attraction to a character.
But I bet you're completely blind to that.
All I'm saying, there's a reason people hate yurifags, and there's a reason a lot of people simply don't want to see any mentions of it anymore. A lot of people are simply tired of you.

>>51184936
NTA and although you make a valid point, surely you can own that there are a lot of people in those annoying fandoms who can rightfully say, "We are misrepresented by a vocal minority." Touhou is no different here, and neither is yuri. I enjoy yuri content, but I don't condone the activities of the yuritroons, and don't want to be wrongfully associated with them.

>>51179788
Yuri is for trannies and paedophiles

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>>51179788
I don't care either way about it, but it's hilarious to me that hardcore yuritards think two women having a simultaneous gay/bi awakening and falling in love is as natural as heterosexual romance, that it just happens naturally. This is particularly prevalent in western artwork.

>>51184956
Yes anon, I literally said it. Fandoms are misrepresented. Touhou is misrepresented by annoying fags, too.
Yuri too. Although, I must say that some creators are also at fault, purely because of how much yuri content presents men as irredeemable demons. The "yuri only world" idea being so popular also makes a ton of people sick to the core.
>don't want to be wrongfully associated with them.
You don't have to be. And honestly, in yuri specific case? I believe it's you who's the minority.
Fact of the matter is that yuri is disliked by a bunch of people and there isn't really anything you can do about it, other than accept it. It's their right to dislike it. I can't really think of anything you could even do to improve its opinion. Nobody expects you to complain about "bad yurifags" while claiming that you yourself do still like yuri, or make some yuri content that will somehow appeal to the yuri haters. I just don't think it would help. You know, you can't take out a forest fire with a single extinguisher.
I think things could change if we went a year without anyone trying to use yuri as a shitpost ammunition, but at this point I'm afraid it's simply not going to happen. Both sides want to make the other side a little bit more mad and both sides will continue to shitpost. We don't have mods to punish the baiting shitposters. And then again, 4chan and /jp/ in general are kind of dying.

And I hate to remind you, but you DO have a place where you can talk about it in peace, without anyone trying to "shitpost back" at you and where nobody is going to think that you're a faggot for liking it. There's a time and place for this. You do have both.
Kinda jealous of you, to be honest.

trooncore + fagshit + fujoshit

The language of crossboarders at this level is quite exhausting to read through.

>>51184965
Chen

>>51179788
It usually ends up twisting the characters beyond the point of recognition, to the point you've just got perverts wearing their appearances like skinsuits.

>>51179824
Yuri has always been a troon psyop.

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I predict that a... fan of a certain off-topic thread is going to bump this thread very soon.

Within a day or two at most.