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Current Event (Global only):
Find a Friend in Doremyland (GL)
VS L1 Son Biten (GL)
VS C3 Satori (GL)
VS C3 Joon (GL)

Current Banners (Global only):
Cf1 Reimu (GL)
L80 Mokou rerun (GL)
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Epic Summer Ritual (GL)
C3' Nemuno (GL)
L1 Ubame (GL)
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>>51197069
Thats a big tail
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>>51197069
What OC 2hu is this?
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>>51199649
It is yuyuko
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god every character gets gigantic tits but then it's finally kagerou's turn to get a beach skin and she's practically FLAT
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>>51197069
>More yuyukos
Lovely
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>>51200424
Usually the big tits are a characteristic of EX versions. She will get her turn eventually.
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Anons who play on jp, which killers do kagerou c3 have? Is her LW as strong as one of nurse Ran?
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>>51208148
I have found that she powercreeps Ran right after Ran's banner ends. Poor japs got scammed. Good to be awared of such scams on global.

Btw, where you get highres images of characters? Like here
>>51200424
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>>51208479
>line 1 killers and scaling
Already better than beach Reimu lmao
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>>51209886
>better than beach Reimu
Kagerou is likely to be the strongest solo LW character now. I was also amazed by her monomoon LW which allows teaming with Kaguya.
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>>51210075
>allows teaming with Kaguya
It definitely sounds good but it looks like they intentionally made the two mechanically opposites aside from the shared moon element. Kagerou is yang/slice/freeze and Kaguya is yin/hard/burn. Although maybe that's just all noise compared to the elemental weakness.
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>>51210149
>two mechanically opposites aside from the shared moon element. Kagerou is yang/slice/freeze and Kaguya is yin/hard/burn.
It is, actually, a great synergy because in EBR the main problem is an enemy who dies too quickly and the trick to apply more stuff is mixing yang and yin characters, so whose, who deal unbuffed damage dont kill.
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Marisa might be replaced by any non-health 100+% dmg buffer like Kasen or Ran/Patchouli. I use Marisa because she is 100 luck.
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Thanks to not having limit broken Satori yet I can do the 15 cost 8 action farm.
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>>51211033
How do you do this? I just wasted the last couple of hours trying to get this formation past gauge 2.

If I use all of Satori's skills on T1, I don't have a quick to barrier break them in T2. Toyo and Marisa both fall short on their target on Gauge 2. Yori survives with 2-3m HP and Toyo with less. With SSNM on Satori, her attack is able to push Toyohime over but Yorihime hangs on.
If I use Satori's Skill 1&3, Yori survives with 900k HP.

I'm sure my cards are good. Well, except Satori's but her current ones here are the closest I've gotten.
Toyo: Gaze Upon the Flowers/Yin Slice (Hunting the Hunter)/GUtF/Yin Slice (HtH)/Celestial's Short Trip
Marisa: Sporadically Margatroid/Yin Hard (Worlds in Hand)/Karmic Cycle/Yin Hard (WiH)/Star Shower Night Magician
Satori: Divine Spirit Tajikarao/SSNM
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>>51211473
>If I use Satori's Skill 1&3, Yori survives with 900k HP.
*Yori survives turn 1 with 900k HP.
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>>51211473
Nvm, I found the video. I was getting close. I was suspecting Satori's Skill 2&3 may've been the way but I didn't think Toyo and Satori attacking at 2P would've worked. Also bonehead decision on my part to not use Strongest Dichtonomy as my stat sticks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkjeAIZzNMk
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>>51211571
I had this set-up fail thrice not even 10 fights in because Toyo misses shots on Turn 1. The description says accuracy in turn 1 isn't an issue because of Toyohime's guaranteed shot. Except her guaranteed shot requires 3P and he uses 2P. I ended up putting in a Yukkuri Alice to switch with Toyo at the start for the additional P and it's been smooth for 70 battles so far.
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>>51210959
I did pick the "Benny, bring me everynyan" option cause the first comp I saw had Yori using Shion's scamcard and I did not pull for that shit, so:

F1 Marisa, C3 Yori, Ex Yuyuko
All skills for Yori and Marisa, LW for Yuyuko and Marisa, Yori attacks with Tower Anniversary, Marisa has her own card, Yuyuko C3 Shion's card.

On 2nd gauge, CS2 Satori hops in, Ex Yuyuko uses all skills together with her, C3 Toyo replaces Yuyuko, CS2 Satori goes LW with a 2nd C3 Shion card, Yori attacks with her own card (you need 2), Toyo attacks single target with whatever card cause I didn't even bother to swap her cards.

3rd gauge, Toyo all skills LW, Yori LW, fucking done, 25sp, 100% win rate without even trying, done, gone and forgotten.
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>Wood EX Nightmare
Kind of a lazy design on NN's part, isn't it? All they did was take Wood EX, increase the enemy health by a factor of 10 and remove the spellcard restore. They couldn't even be bothered to make a point exchange when the appeal of Elemental EX is the opportunity to grind out some past DS cards.

I'm guessing they're using this stage as a way to test the idea of allowing dispatches for DS.
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>>51212887
I don't have toyo and yori and ex yuyuko. Everyone completes with whatever they have. I showed how i did it without toyohime (as i understood toyo's solo card is the most popular solution), maybe it will help someone.

Btw, i don't understand why Toyohime is considered strong. She is not that good at supporting, as i remember. Idk if she is much stronger than Nitori gamer. She didn't look that strong at the moment of release. And Nitori was given alongside pure prayer characters.
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>>51213582
>i don't understand why Toyohime is considered strong
She shreds shields with her anomaly inflicts and breaks, shreds the person behind them with her ability (increased damage to resisted and effective elements) and her killers cover 80-90% of the game's roster. Then her spellcards give party-wide spirit to help keep the engine running.
You can argue she's not the strongest but she is objectively strong.
I don't have Nitori C3<. She probably hits like a brick but has a contradictory kit and I don't think she's as supportive to allies as her sheet may suggest. She's a yin hard with low enough AGI that she definitely moves last. But she's also kitted out to be an anomaly breaker like Toyo. Generally it's desirable for the anomaly breaker to be the first to act to maximize everyone else's damage on the broken units. Her allies aren't going to receive her spellcard buffs until the next turn; which means you're either extending the battle beyond an optimal speed or they're not going to receive the buffs at all with the wipe that comes with a new gauge or wave.
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>>51213983
You mean toyo is strong vs spirits? Is that important? Even cirno can easily nuke spirits in 6 poisons, yang debuffs , and under like 5 yang attack buff without breaking.

In EBR toyo's buffs seem kinda weak, she was strongest nuker in 4th area in previous EBR, but it is kind of a random because you can't predict weaknesses, killer limiters, and bullet type protections, and she just fit good on that time but may be completely useless in next spirits where she doesn't fit. Unlike, for example, F1 Marisa, who can always apply great buff and is always useful.
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>>51215009
for my point of view she falls under F1 Koishi, MV Kasen + Gengetsu combo or any other unit who simply FB evrynyan with minimum effort and does good damage despite meme lists naysayings
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>>51215224
>F1 Koishi
she does not buff tier2 stats or stored power, or any other multipliers. This is very bad for epic character. She might hit fine, but she is not worth speniding dolls if you have not spend them already.
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>>51215009
>Is [vs spirits] important?
It's the most common source of new cards in the game and cards are power.
>EBR
Admittedly I don't think very much about EBR. I clear it on hard and call it a day. I think the argument NN can release a stage that specifically nerfs her is silly when that can apply to anybody. You already have two examples of stages where she turned out to be a carry: the 4th area of the previous EBR and Wood EX Nightmare. Clearly she does something right that people are getting use out of.
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>>51211033
400+ non-dispatch runs & no problems so far. (Picrel is just one of the sessions)

>>51212036
Toyo has guaranteed hit on line 2 of her solo SC which insta breaks 5 barriers + any burn barriers inflicted by Satori.
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>>51216166
I tried the 3-man again and still Yorihime sometimes survives Turn 1. I don't know what I'm missing.
Satori has Lakeside Show/Star Shower Night Magician.
Toyohime has Gaze Upon the Flowers/Strongest Dichotomy (66/170)/GUtF/StDi (66/170)/StDi (70/169)
Toyo is rank 5, 5 stars and pink heart with Superior Enhance Max on AGI, Yang ATK and Yin ATK. All cards are +10.
With SP reduction to 15, Toyo's stats are:
AGI 1035+202
YAA 699+258
YIA 983+551

Turn 1:
Toy S3
Sat S3 S2
Mar S3 S1
Mar 3G 3P SC1 (Toyohime)
Sat 3G 2P SC1
Toy 3G 2P SC1 (Yorihime)
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I remember now why these Lost Word threads always die. They turn into an Excel troubleshooting.
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>>51216567
I don't think that's why. People don't ask for stage help that often from this thread. We slowed down because of the site hack, the 2 week autosage and the long period afterwards without a thread.
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>>51216331
Did you spend your Toyo's luck points?
My Toyo setup seems to have marginally lower card stats but higher base stats. I put +50 to both yin atk & AGI.
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>>51215867
>It's the most common source of new cards in the game and cards are power.
Spirits aren't a problem if you have generally good chars like NY Marisa, NY Reisen, L80 Kasen and Patchouli, etc. Now the buffs are so strong that you don't even need breaks and weaknesses, just undebuffed bullets (95% reduced bullts still may do like 300-400k damage but this is not enough).
For example in newest or previous spirits my NY Reisen killed 2nd gauge in resistances and 5 evasion under poisoned barriers and then C3 flandre (rudimental character) did 400k/target on 3rd gauge under default +10 attack, -10 def.

>when that can apply to anybody
Not really. NY Marisa will be useful with her 125% damage buff even of you protect everyone from each of her bullets. Reisen's stuns and debuffs, and 70% agi work in the same way, Reisen don't need to do any damage personally to be useful.

Idk, why would ftp player spend cubes on epic char without great support capabilities.
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>>51216843
>Did you spend your Toyo's luck points?
I think that was it. I didn't spent my luck points. Did it and now I'm at 22 consecutive battles as I'm typing which is the most I've managed to get yet. I'll have to give it a more extensive test tomorrow. Thank you!
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>>51216879
Here's the example. Only generally good characters + paper doll undebuffed yukari (might be replaced by anyone who is not debuffed). Cards are not optimal, just some - def. If a person wants to farm 100-110 lvl autobattle, they can remove debuffs from generally good characters and do job quicker.

Idk, why anyone would spend SCs on characters without decent buffs. I have pink Zanmu, but she was in a shared exchange with generally good pink koishi, so she was practically discounted. You might reduce SP cost sometimes a little, but SCs and epic dolls are more important than SP, i have 1.6 millions of SP and i still got all important cards in sufficient quantities.

https://limewire.com/d/ZBsLi#z9w3JLlI5V
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>>51215268
you just summed up all the comments made in trooncord non only in the regards of F1 Koishi, but also on many other chars, who simply don't have X, nor Y or Z, yet, they shit out damage with minimum effort.
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F1 Koisher is alright. She could use EB story cards to be more powerful and better LW card in future, but she is a good pick if you need a friend for wood stages.
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>>51216944
Just to confirm that not spending my luck points was the cause. I've since gone about 200 between yesterday and today without issue.
>>51221759
BGM gift from Keiki! I miss when we'd regularly have a Touhou greet us with two sentences and a gift.
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C3 Youmu LW lags my phone, I think I need a new one lol
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>>51229334
>>51229336
Musichus
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Yay
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>>51230945
Congrats!
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is it too late to start from scratch again? i used to play every day from launch to 2023 until i lost my account and i want to start again but i think ill be too far behind and constantly feel that. also i dont want the game to eos as soon as i start playing again.
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>>51229334
>>51229336
Are these new alts or just costumes?
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>>51232745
I don't think we'll EoS anytime soon.
If you're starting fresh, sooner is almost always better. It'll take your new account months (or money) to get back to the point where you can clear DS and EB stages. And even then the smart play is to probably save up crystals for a collection banner at anniversary or something along those lines. They seem to be getting better about rerunning old friends but there is still the doll drought to overcome.
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>>51232745
expiration date for starting from 0 was 2024. If Fantasma was still there and kept is kinda-ish promises then you still had a chance, sadly he got moved elsewhere and we are SOL
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>>51232745
> i used to play every day from launch to 2023 until i lost my account, and i want to start again, but i think I'll be too far behind and constantly feel that.
New characters slowly but constantly power creep old characters, so you will not lose much.

I started 2 years ago and was in the top 100 in the previous EBR. This time, i think i can do even in the top 50.

Characters that were realesed before i entered the game aren't used now, mostly. For example, at the game start, they were releasing L1 and fes chars with some ufes chars like red marisa and tiny yuyuko. Now i have all L1 chars for free, and ufes chars from that time are useless. Rare epics like C3 Yukari are still used, though.

Actually, the game is interesting now, there's nightmare extra stages, advanced challenges, EBL, EBR, and sometimes interesting DS. Before me, the game was bad with only primitive events and wosd grind. So it is good idea to check it once nore.
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>>51234343
Btw, eos is unlikely because whales pull purehus even on global. Based on new content and in-game music, i suppose they are feeling better than ever.
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>>51234469
Maybe I was too short, and it's all because when our glourious ghost was there:

>more reasonable prices
>advantages for GB players
>easy to get specific unit reruns either via collection with rate-up or 48h rotating banners with shared exchange points
>guy was also planning to rerun all DS, reset them at each rerun and grant us 10 cards minimum per rerun cause he realized different things tied to card needs

When they stole him from us and replaced him with corporate bootlickers what in the F we got?

They quickly rigged Kourindou Roulette and never properly updated it
Less and lessern Forever Prayers with rigged rates
UFES reruns lost the cheap step GC step up
More luck nerfs from daylies and extra stages
No more cheap rings or discounted packages, this is also IT for doll packages
Kourindou Slot also got removed
Prevented him to further add cards from music game tasks
Not sure how many influence he had on EBR prizes, but yes they are worse and last EBR task prizes were a fuck you to everyone.
Daily login bonuses are fucking gone
When it was the last time we had a 5x droprate from storymode

This is what happened, now cheaper doll packages mean shit to people who does not want to spend any kind of money, but for dolphins like me did mean a whole lot.

So, if you start today, due 95% poisoning, due "oh you spent 1k to max 2 epic, that's too bad cause for the next 120 they will be euthanized", adding the fact that all 5* gacha cards who still have some meanings have their rates set to zero, that they are spamming too many units in so little time and you don't fucking know which one to get/invest, yes we sadly have the tier list, but ZERO utility list. New players are simply overlwhelmed by NN greed being throw left and right on a weekly basis, sometimes it sticks, sometimes does not, different times it will stick later cause it turns out that.

This summer, around 30 new players added me to their list, maybe 2 are still playing, every week I'm removing someone who goes past being offline for more than 40 days. None with a sane mind will play this.

Also, I do wonder what happened to that whale that a year ago posted his brand new box and told us he spent around 30k for monthly fomo, I do wonder if he's still playing or if he's gone.
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>>51235162
> you don't fucking know which one to get/invest, yes
That's one of the features of ftp gameplay. You think and decide how to spend resources. I skip most characters. Got new Ran for EBR and still have 4.7k SCs (it is 4.7 characters on average) and will pull kagerou for EBR. I am fully ftp since around 3rd anniversary, and i was 160kk in previous EBR and going to do 165kk+ in the next one, maybe i will even be able to do 170 but i am not so confident about that yet.

Of course, sometimes you don't have what you would like to have. For example, i completed the 5th area of the previous EBR with L80 yuyuko because i had no Yang Earth nuker. I also nuked with Kaguya in the 4th area. But it was fun to think about EBR with my personal limitations, i got experience no one else could get because my character pull is unique, and the same applies to others.
I also remember when i was fighting 120lvl spirits for 50+ turns with infinite barriers 3vs1 because i didn't have strong characters. It was also interesting.
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>>51235370
>muh ebr
enjoy your limited time golden jpeg.
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>>51235496
I don't have a golden title for EBR :( It is granted for top 1 only, and i am nowhere near that.

Btw, after 1.5 years, all other content is too easy and not interesting. There's nothing more to do other than pushing EBR score. Only pink Zanmu spirits with almost everything debuffed were curious because i used barriers and dealt much damage with burn.
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>>51235619

You are what we used to call a 1-1-1-5, 1 tank, 1 heal, 1 troll, 5 dps burning through the last raid cause yes, momentary adapting for elite content, create a specific raid buddy list cause everyone at one point has to do that, completely bypass 90% of commoners then jump on forums to complain about content being too easy and that noobs are ruining the game or your struggling through key points cause they don't know the drill, they don't know the exploits, they know nothing, but you do, yet you refuse to help them cause you are elite, and they are not worth of your time.

EBR means jackshit, it's the ultimate walletcheck, yes you are f2p, sure, whatever, but at the end, the prizes are temporary, the last EBR was a joke, cockblocking a fucking ring to 170 gorillions was there because they realized that most of us sitting between 200th spot and above, in the past simply completed the first 3 areas, reap the prizes and moved on cause it's not worth it.

We or I move our/my asses/ass only when something worth was in, aka double epic dolls, rest ain't going to bother.

I was checking a JP comp with L1 and UFES units, I was planning to at least hit 150 gorillions, ended up 1,3 gorillions short, the score of that guy was lower than mine, I don't know if global still has that damage calculation issue or not, I triple checked, google calculated it, he was pouring less damage than me.

I fixed 4 areas, Kosuzu was hitting around 30 extra gorillions in one, C3 Yori was doing in between 16 to 26 gorillions in another, I don't remember which other was the chosen one and yes, her damage was more than 25 gorillions, last area probably I fucked up and whatever was left was less than a roulette and enough to hit 150 complessive gorillions.
My final score, somehow, increased only by 100k, I simply gave up.

This new EBR? I'm not sure, if checking in the first 3 areas will be enough I'm sold, if not since they decreased the prizes, it will be the first one that I'll be skipping.
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>>51233111
They appear to be alts. They even have their LW animations in the game data (obviously incomplete)
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>>51235721
>noobs are ruining the game or your struggling through key points cause they don't know the drill, they don't know the exploits, they know nothing
It's not the case. This is basically a solo game. Everyone does whatever they want.

>but you do, yet you refuse to help them cause you are elite, and they are not worth of your time.
Almost everyone shares their completions.

Here's your OP exploit for DS: poison reduces yang def, so you should not break barriers. Instead, stack poison+ yang attack + yang def down on one turn and then kill all enemies with nearly anyone because they have like -14-17 yang def and your char has like 5 yang atk. Even aoe card might kill everyone without %dmg buffs. Burn works the same way for yin.

>EBR means jackshit, it's the ultimate walletcheck
It's a wallet check if you want in top 10. If you solve it for fun like "how much can i score? what if A, what if B?" Lack of someone makes it more interesting.

>We or I move our/my asses/ass only when something worth was in, aka double epic dolls, rest ain't going to bother.
>
160m is completely ftp but hard. They gave cubes for 160 and useless ring for 170. They gave the most important epic doll for 150.

>probably I fucked up and whatever was left was less than a roulette and enough to hit 150 complessive gorillions.
>My final score, somehow, increased only by 100k, I simply gave up.
It's because 142.5m (or something like that) is a basic minimum you get for just completing the EBR without dying and in needed number of turns. After that you need to push your overdamage, and the scale is logarithmical (for 20m you get like 2m, for 100m you get like 5-6m and 1000m gives 7500) so you need to nuke every stage properly instead of focusing on one.
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>>51236348
as I said I fixed 4 whole areas, the damage increased only by 100k, only one area had iffy damage, the fifth cause I scrambled units and forgot to properly set the strat to maximize the damage.

Also, you are twisting something here, it's old/elite players demanding more difficult content cause the game is boring, every single time, devs listen to closed communities and they fuck up the game for everyone.

I misspelled and forget to check back after fixing a couple of things. Elite do not like noobs cause they come on elite content cause they watched a single YT video and they think they are now capable to run said content, they don't cause mechanics, cause parrying, cause this and that, elite players will kick them out, nameshame them and that's it.

If not, a noob with money comes up and patches his way through content and many kicks till he's capable to persuade other players to join his group by buying resets, buying stuff for them and so on.

I know this is luckily a single player game, but many such cases happened on KF2, PD2, DCUO, I don't know how many MMORPG and it's always the elite who creates a mess for randoms.

I gave up on PD2, I did play for well good enough time on KF2, I nerfed myself to help players on hard cause I was already capable to solo suicidal with 3 different classes. I was there playing healer, support for them, got kicked out different times from lobbies cause my HS rate as support against Scrakes and Flashpounds was higher than a sharpshooter.

On DCUO I whaled my T4 armor for troll, half whaled the T4 dd armor, I was doing raids 24/7 with everyone in the server, I was invited for elite content and also survival mode many, many times, I was no longer whaling cause tiering up reached diminishing returns so as long you knew the role everything was fine. Elite content was everything but fun, too many bs punishing everyone with one shot mechanics, game was literally ruined by that 1% buying everything, on day 1 without realizing that for the next tier their armor was literally a shiny block of paper cause devs with CR locks that nobody ever asked for were pushing everyone back to T1, but this has very nothing to do with people shopping 4 epics a month and crying about no difficult content.
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>>51236348
>Instead, stack poison+ yang attack + yang def down on one turn and then kill all enemies with nearly anyone because they have like -14-17 yang def and your char has like 5 yang atk. Even aoe card might kill everyone without %dmg buffs. Burn works the same way for yin.
Wait, does this actually do more damage than barrier breaking would? I thought a barrier break sets the target to max debuff state and the attacker to max buff state. So a broken enemy would be treated as if they were at -10 yang def and your attacking unit would be treated as if they were at +10 yang atk; which would still ultimately be a distance of 20 steps; 10 down for them, 10 up for you.
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>>51237524
>Wait, does this actually do more damage than barrier breaking would?
Yes.
First, you can stack more -def debuffs (break dispels them).
Second, each poison/burn decreases def even further. As i understand, -def from barriers stacks with -def debuffs in the same way -permament def does.
The problem is that enemies attack and might kill someone without stun on one of them.

>thought a barrier break sets the target to max debuff state
Unlikely. I would notice that ,and there would be no debuffs on broken enemies in that case (but debuffs work on broken enemies without a doubt). It feels like break just increases received damage twice or something like that.

> the attacker to max buff state
Definitely not. In such case, it wouldn't matter if you hit broken enemy with yin or yang character. You would be able to mix up them completely free without penalties. But buffs do work on chars who hit broken enemies.

I showed a nuke from NY marisa's aoe card somewhere above in this thread. She did 2.4 millions of damage in barriers without her s3.

Try yourself on any spirits. Like take L1 Cirno and first nuke in break, next nuke in 6-7 poisons and yang debuffs.
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>>51237660
I tested myself, and Cirno did 2000000 in barriers and 2400000 in break. Maybe i still dont understand something, and it really works this strange way (like enemy is debuffed by ten levels of everything). I will test on Marisa's aoe again and on some yin char in yang team. I remember i couldn't nuke on someone without poisons but did it with them.
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>>51237704
In Clownpiece + heca stage, Chen nuked 1.3m in poisons with debuffs and 700000 in break. Too difficult to understand, how it works.
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>>51237730
If you are unaware there is a community-made combat guide detailing the game's mechanics.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FjiuZip9HfxS2rPXNSHrTzeLaLN3udjiZiGzuNH21os/
I just remember broad strokes.

Here's something I found describing the effects of Full Break on the Discord
```
During Full break, all of these effects will happen for 2 turns:

- Both DEF is multiplied by 0.25 (DEF DOWN 10 levels)
- Stunned (2 turns)
- Focus UP/DOWN and AoE/ST UP/DOWN effects will remain for the remainder of the unit's attack.
- All other buff and debuff effects are reset.
- Further DEF reduction will not work.
- EVA and CRIT buff/debuff effects can be reapplied after Full Break.
```
I haven't found anything about if buffing your own yang/yin atk will lead to more damage when attacking a fully broken unit or not. I thought it didn't but maybe that was an assumption on my part.
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>>51237730
Marisa did the same 2.4-2.5m both in break (two broken, sanae standing) and in 7 poisons + -9 yang def debuff.

I think break just gives incoming damage multiplier after all. Maybe this numerical multiplier is close to -10def +10atk but it should be a different thing.

Maybe it works for yang/yin def and atk but not at crit def/atk and applied crit def debuffs matter.

In practice, i think one should just check both options (break and debuff+status stack ) in case the first chosen one didn't work.
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>>51237745
Thanks. Now it is interesting to know if 7 poisoned barriers (which should apply -7 yang def) stack with -10 yang def debuffs resulting in -17 yang def.

I undoubtedly know that permament -def stacks with -10 default -def. I tested it in precise conditions (sure hit, killer hit, same buffs, same debuff except -2 perm def). I also remember that in my test the difference was like 129 and 135 thousand damage (but deviation within both series was near zero like +-20 dmg).
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>>51237772
>. I also remember that in my test the difference was like 129 and 135 thousand damage (but deviation within both series was near zero like +-20 dmg).
I mean, with extreme -def debuffs that reduce def to near zero numbers, incoming damage is almost pure, so the difference was low.
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>>51237474
>and they fuck up the game for everyone.
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How? You can still do spirits, events, and grab your 140-150m EBR rewards.

>Elite do not like noobs cause they come on elite content cause they watched a single YT video and they think they are now capable to run said content, they don't cause mechanics, cause parrying, cause this and that, elite players will kick them out, nameshame them and that's it.
Idk what you are talking about. Nobody cares about others' failures and, most often, about achievements too.

>but this has very nothing to do with people shopping 4 epics a month and crying about no difficult content.
You mean in dcuo or in touhou lw? Touhou is ftp unless you want top 10 EBR. You gain many cubes from errands and dailies, and average expenses on a character are 1000 cubes (actually slightly lower with spark). You are limited on epic dolls, but you still get many.
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They don't post expiration dates for the new stuff anymore.
>bigger pic
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Sakuya's card looks like the best card of these MV reruns so far.
>>51238208
I don't like they also no longer mention what the upcoming DS stages will be.



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