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General area for discussion of all aspects of TYPE-MOON works including 'Tsukihime', 'Kara no Kyoukai', 'Fate/stay night', 'Fate/EXTRA', 'Mahoutsukai no Yoru', and more

>Moonlit Archives: A Digital Archive of Historical TYPE-MOON Works
https://moonlitarchives.com/static/games/
>Type-Moon Visual Novel Collection (Japanese)
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1tyCb9CZR_bh6ZyvK8N1v3HU0GhG6aTZe

>Mahoutsukai no Yoru - Witch on the Holy Night
Mahoutsukai no Yoru VN
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2052410/WITCH_ON_THE_HOLY_NIGHT/
An Adventure of First Love (Mahoutsukai no Yoru Short Story)
https://tri-hermes.org/Novels/An-Adventure-of-First-Love.html
Mahoutsukai no Yoru LN (planned to be 3 volumes long and will be published by Seikaisha FICTIONS)
https://www.kodansha.co.jp/book/products/0000429331

>Kara no Kyoukai (1998)
Kara no Kyoukai Novels (Japanese)
https://nyaa.si/view/136382
Kara no Kyoukai Anime
https://nyaa.si/view/1828314
Kara no Kyoukai Manga
https://nyaa.si/view/2090783

>Tsukihime (2000)
Tsukihime Complete Pack
https://www.readtsukihi.me/downloads
Tsukihime Manga
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1cC2cl1r46qDxKLQ6SJ2ss2V0JS8ihlpn
Tsukihime Plus Period - Talk
https://tri-hermes.org/Novels/talk.html
Tsukihime II Prelude
https://tri-hermes.org/Novels/prelude.html

>MELTY BLOOD (2002)
MELTY BLOOD PC Collection (Original + ReACT + Act Cadenza + Actress Again Current Code):
https://nyaa.si/view/1042489
MELTY BLOOD Manga
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1qfSckM1X-oLSl8DPCk9GqOydRRH5UjEq
MELTY BLOOD - Back Alley Alliance Nightmare Manga
https://weebdex.org/title/unciq51sbi/melty-blood-back-alley-nightmare
MELTY BLOOD - Back Alley Radio episode from 2014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpEEDMvWiEU [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i-ukXCTmWk [Embed]

>Fate (2004)
Fate/stay night REMASTERED
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2396980/Fatestay_night_REMASTERED/
Fate/hollow ataraxia REMASTERED
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2396990/Fatehollow_ataraxia_REMASTERED/
Garden of Avalon
https://tri-hermes.org/Novels/GoA.html
Fate/strange Fake
https://humbertozero.tumblr.com/post/771492010917019648/how-to-read-fatestrange-fake-light-novel
Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma Illya
https://nyaa.si/view/1976278
Fate Music Collection
https://nyaa.si/view/1834594

>Fate/EXTRA (2010)
Fate/Extra + Fate/Extra CCC [English]
https://nyaa.si/view/1753542

>Other Type-Moon Works
Angel Voice / Notes
https://tri-hermes.org/Novels/notes.html
Clock Tower 2015
https://tri-hermes.org/Novels/clocktower2015.html
DDD - Decoration Disorder Disconnection
https://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/10322-Decoration-Disorder-Disconnection-Complete-Translation
Tsuki no Sango - Coral of the Moon
https://tri-hermes.org/Novels/tsuki-no-sango.html
Tsuki no Sango Manga
https://mangadex.org/chapter/773842/1
Haru to Tsuki to Sora to
https://mega.nz/file/xlVwGY4K#170GaRCpftfOJXtBjbF1BYu3cNUaiM6aOJLWEkhLyKs

>Type-Moon Miscellaneous
Carnival Phantasm
https://nyaa.si/view/550820
Encyclopedia of Type-Moon
https://mega.nz/folder/oM8EhIjQ#IAVmHGdLnalCs0B5mRhzRQ
Materials
https://tri-hermes.org/materials.html
TMdict Glossary
https://www.tmdict.com
Tsuki-kan (comprehensive record of real-world statements, interviews, Q&As, feature articles, etc):
https://www.tsukikan.com
Type-Moon Comic Ace
https://web-ace.jp/tmca
TYPE-MOON Sound Collection
https://nyaa.si/view/2103671
UMD - Type-Moon Manga Fan Translations
https://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/10069-UMD-Translations-Hub

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I feel like Tsukihime was made for me, ever since I was 12-13 I dreamed of getting in a knife duel in some Brazilian favela and just fighting to death some low level drug dealer. Winning or losing doesn't matter.
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>>51230675
How long was this in development again?
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>>51230692
6 years I think
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>>51230773
Took them only 7 years
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I can't stand the live2d sprites. It's just uncanny. It's like they're replacing what my imagination would have filled in with something that just looks bad.
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>early thread
Why?
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>>51230810
Look at her little corner. They've given her books and tea.
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I hate Fate/Extra so much, it's unreal.
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>>51230955
We know Niino
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>>51230960
If that was true, he wouldn't have wasted his opportunity to make it big with Square Enix only the encounter early retirement with a project that won't even carry his name. Anyway, it only serves him right.
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What if the holy grail war
was set in mozambique
How would things change?
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>>51230989
That's not a real country you made that up
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>>51230810
Did they replace Touko?
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>>51231114
And Aoko presumably.
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>>51231129
That's be weird since she pairs with Alice.
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If they do show up it'll be in a different role or at least something worth hiding considering they're not even on the official site.
>>51231133 is from Wada's exhibition rather than from Extra Record.
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TYPE MOON HELLO? B-B-B BEADS!? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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Alright, I ordered the mahoyo novels. I'm expecting the sequel within the next 2 years, Nasu.
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>>51231460
Wow. /tmg/'s singlehandedly funding mahoyo.
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I still haven't finished the VN.
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I can't believe it, actual news
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>>51230989
wtf is mozambiq? it sounds like some muslim hellhole like UK
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>>51232602
This December. Screenshot my post.
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I haven't been following the news, can someone tell me what happened with Extra? I remember it got delayed to 2030 or something, but now it's coming out in January.
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>>51232808
It was handed to competent people.
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What route should I do when reading Tsukihime for the 1st time?
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>>51233262
Play normally and you will get Arcueid. And if by any chance you get Ciel it means you are into her and should continue with her route.
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DDD seems like people's least favorite Nasu work.
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>>51233277
More obscure ≠ less favourite.
"Least favourite" implies some level of animosity towards it.
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>>51233277
what's it about?
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My favourite brand of progressive… people are Fate/Extra fans who really try to get blood out of a stone by saying it totally has male homosexuality instead of embracing the true based and redpilled nature of the Extraverse, and then proceed to retweet for 1,488th time the same 666 fan arts from 1,352 years ago.
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>>51233283
True, but it exists in translation and still barely any Type Moon fans ever seem to talk about it. Hard not read something into that lack of interest. Also the fact that it was never finished or adapted is probably not a coincidence and means something.
>>51233305
Supernatural mystery with occult themes I guess and strange/eccentric characters? Haven't finished it yet.
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>>51233305
Demons. Both the fake demons born from human obsession and the real deal. The last boss seems to be the MC 's imouto but it's incomplete. It fits well with Nasuverse but for some reason Nasu seperated it into its own thing.
Old Nasu works usually focus on certain aspects of his setting to keep thing fresh. Kara no kyoukai is mostly about espers and some lore about mages, Fate and Mahoyo are about mages and true magic, Tsuki is about the church and vampires.
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>>51233379
>Hard not read something into that lack of interest.
Not everything X person makes will ever spark interest in the "mainstream".
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>>51233956
Turn around and stab.
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I like butts.
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How can i meet a girl like Arcueid irl?
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>>51234361
How could you miss a girl you don't know?
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Just read day 9 on Ciel's route. So Akihi and Shiki aren't blood related...
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This is what Saber means to me.

She represents the Lunar aspect of a hero's soul. When Shirou met her she was illuminated by the moonlight. Dressed in a deep blue dress and silver armour representing the night sky. Moon and the night were traditionally associated with the feminine. Think of menstrual cycles, feeling coming about from the subconscious during nighttime, dreams connecting you with your past etc.

This is also evident with her within the plot itself as she is the one that ultimately brings Shirou back to his past with her ties to Kiritsugu and her being a literal ghost. Only by confronting and reconciliating with his past, while also lerning to love along the way, did Shirou grow a heart and did not end up as a cold man of tin.

Now, think of how they departed. She vanished by being touched by the first rays of morning light. The Sun represents the masculine, the actualised and the active. Shirou can only now truly start living as he has actualised himself by integrating the psychological context that brough about his existence as a person from the subconscious and the past into his walking conscious life.

I also like to think as the Moon reflects sunlight from the other side of the world, so too do works we consume reflect the light of higher ideals unto our souls.
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>>51233305
Mentally ill people with superpowers
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How worth reading is Case Files and Adventures? I thought the anime was just okay though I liked the premise and the characters generally, but it seems incredibly fanfiction-y.
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Finished Mahoyo volume 1. Here's some of the stuff I noticed. In addition to these, there were also lots of minor changes like simple rewordings and adding detail where images would have sufficed in the game. I'm sure there's also plenty I'm missing.
- Added Avenue Cafe
- Prologue is in first person わたし
- Chapter 1 (p88) Added description of Alice reacting to Soujuurou's dumb question as reported by Aoko 「他の教室は何に使うんだ?」 - ちょっと面白い、という所感をこぼしかけて同居人は手にした本の頁を捲る
- Chapter 2 (p107) Replaced mob's classmate's suggestion that Tobimaru turned gay after Aoko rejected him with her asking if he got 女の子恐怖症(アオコノフォビア)
- Chapter 2 (p137) Changed what Aoko said to Tobimaru that caused him try to hit her to something more extreme and personal to Tobimaru's situation:
「私に負けるのが目に見えてたのになんで会長に立候補したんだか。親への反抗期ならご自慢の家でやって。付き合わされる私だちがいい迷惑。というかつきじ君、生徒会長務まるの?顔を取り柄にするのは恋愛関係だけにして」
本気の罵倒に本気で報復してきた飛丸の即断力に感心しての事だが、今にして思うと彼のもっとも繊細な部分に踏み込んでしまった、と内心反省している青子である。
- Chapter 1.5 is now Chapter 2.5
- Chapter 2.5 (p159) Added detail about Soujuurou and Kouga's relationship - 山で暮らしていた時に師事していた恒河さん
- Chapter 4 (p247) Added detailed explanation of Six Singing Chocolates and literary/historical context where there was none in the game.
- Chapter 4 (p269) Added fgo reference when Aoko notes Alice's aversion to baths and disinterest in onsen - いずれ、いやいつか自分たちを取り巻くすべての事情が解決する、なんて時が来るのなら、友人として旅情の一つや二つは教えてあげてもいい
- Chapter 4 (p283) Removed Aoko's description of her school's students being 嫌味のない人間ばかり, added Alice's line following 「楽しそうね」 - 「ええ。知らない人が見れば真逆の感想を抱くだろうけど」
- Chapter 5 (p395) Added a description where Aoko is compared to a lowland gorilla.
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>"it's been 16 years since the original Extra released"

>>51230773
>>51230794
Games are very rarely in development for the full time because when it takes a long time they usually start the process over from scratch several times. As much as people meme about the 12 year dev period for DNF, in reality the game we got was only in development for like 2 years tops.
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How accurate and specific to human biology is magic? Can heroic spirits piss and shit and fart? This is very important information to me.
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You know what would be neat? They'll never do it because it fucks with the narrative but it'd be neat.
When those instances happen where the enemy servant and master try to ambush you in the arena and you have to survive against them? In the original you CAN win these fights if you knew they were coming and grinded the everliving shit out of the day beforehand to prepare because the enemy servant always has stupid levels of HP, but nothing happens if you win other than getting some xp, but what if in the remake the enemy servant just straight up dies there and it changes the narrative for the rest of the week, after all YOU die if you lose that fight.
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>>51235766
These seem like minor adjustments/additions that 99.6% of readers will never notice. Idk, I guess I was hoping for something more interesting/story relevant.
>Chapter 2 (p107) Replaced mob's classmate's suggestion that Tobimaru turned gay after Aoko rejected him with her asking if he got 女の子恐怖症(アオコノフォビア)
I wonder why. Maybe he didn't want it to come acress as homophobic. Aokophobia makes sense though.
>Chapter 5 (p395) Added a description where Aoko is compared to a lowland gorilla.
Lol.
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>>51235849
The only isntance I can think of in the original where the game actually takes into account you winning a fight you shouldn't is if you somehow actually beat the Jabberwocky without having the vorpal blade and your servant comments on it. They'll probably keep that.
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>>51235846
In FGO someone mentions that a lot of servants had diareha during an event
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>>51235766
Here are a few more courtesy of some nips on twitter:
- Chapter 1 (p16) Description of the Aozakis keeping cows, chickens, having fields... description of grandfather's workshop: 廃校寸前の図書館みたい
- Chapter 1 (p24) Removed Aoko comparing herself to wolf doomed to be killed by little red riding hood at opening of first chapter
- Chapter 1 and beyond... 彼女 (often) changed to 自分・青子 - narration is generally more immediate, personal, intimate
- Chapter 1 (p43) Aoko before she's about to meet Soujuurou: 何であろうと敵 and exclamation mark removed - Aoko made ever so slightly less aggressive
- Chapter 1 (p81) Aoko tells Robin not to let Alice know about her failure でも有珠には内緒にしてね
- Chapter 1 (p88) Aoko telling Alice about Soujuurou 馬鹿ってワケじゃない changed to 考えなしってワケじゃない
- Chapter 1 (p88) Alice's comment about Aoko after she complains about Soujuurou そういうダメな人、気にする質だったの? changed to 自分と波長の違う隣人のこと、気にする質だったの?
- Chapter 1 (p91) それが円滑な雑居生活の秘訣であり常識である added (emphasising 雑居 - see 2022 interview)
- Chapter 4 (p290) Added description 微かな怒りを押し殺した独白 to Aoko's reply to Soujuurou thanking Aoko for telling him 「長生きするわ、貴方」
- Chapter 5 (p297) Kitsy Land exposition: "late 80s" changed to "late 70s", removed JR reference
- Chapter 5 (p320) Added that gandr is the only magecraft Aoko can use herself: いまのところ蒼崎青子が『自身の回路(きのう)』だけで使える魔術が、この魔力と呼ばれる生体熱量を圧縮・加工して放つ物理干渉、魔弾である
- Chapter 5 (p361) 血小便 changed to 血小板
>>51235850
Yeah the changes aren't exactly game-changing, but hey, at least Nasu's really gone through all the text.
I'm more interested in the content in the next two volumes. Mahoyo really gets going once everyone's living together.
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So is Red Garden going to be about Akiha, Hisui and Kohaku routes?
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>>51236407
Plus a finished version of Yumizuka's route that Nasu didn't do in the original Tsukihime.
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>>51236200
>Chapter 1 (p24) Removed Aoko comparing herself to wolf doomed to be killed by little red riding hood at opening of first chapter
Huh?
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Combat for Shiki Ryougi and Tohno while we're at it works in a novel format but it's silly when animated unless they do a cut every second like in the TsukiR opening. Basically she only runs at 50 kph or 31 mph, that is the speed of an indoor cat and not even as fast as a large dog breed let alone a wolf. It's not anime supersonic speed, it's Western vampire speed. Shiki vs Asagami on the bridge is awful in the movie, there's no way she should be able to dodge Asagami's eyes unless she moved at anime speeds.
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>>51236482
In the game it's the first page after the prologue with young Aoko taking the cat to her grandfather, so it's a pretty notable omission. Maybe it makes 2026 Nasu cringe.
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>>51236947
Arc is scary in succubus mode.
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>>51230675
Thanks I hate it
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>>51237639
Why?
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When are they making a game that actually feels like being a master in a normal holy grail war?
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>>51238081
2004
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>>51238091
Even that was very abnormal since it had two fake magi, a puppet and the examiner acting as masters.
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>>51238091
thats not a game about being a master in a holy grail war its a game about watching some other nigga be a master in a holy grail war
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>>51238209
But you control what he does.
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>>51236494
I was under the assumption that in Tohno's case it isn't like that, more that when under compulsion of his bloodlust his body just moves and shifts unnaturally in order to attack. Like what he's doing is physically possible but not something you'd consciously do, more the movement of something acting on pure instinct.
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>>51238214
You control the speed at which Shirou dies.
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>>51238262
Shiki Tohno (in both versions) slashes Arcueid's body in precise locations 16x before she hit the floor as 17 lumps of flesh. If we say that it took her 1 second to fall even the fastest human could probably only swing a knife 8-10x but it would be in the same location, not a slash at Arcueid's head and a slash at her feet. To do that you'd need at least subsonic speed.
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>>51240560
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I'm guessing Nasu studied this stuff.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greco-Roman_mysteries
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evil_eye
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>>51241648
>initiates (mystai)
>mystai
Heh.
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>>51241758
normal behavior?
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If Akiha was a titty monster, I would finally find her attractive.
Art of her and SHIKI copulating would be peak too.
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Why doesn’t Archer plap Rin

Most unrealistic part of f/sn desu
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>>51242041
He's tired of cleaning up messes.
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>>51236494
You know, why the fuck do tsuki vampires have to be superpowered flash runners anyway? What happened to "a pale gangly fuck that sucks your blood and makes you a zombie" itself already being very horrifying?
I know the point is that you can't just run away as a normal person, but a very easy workaround is what the Arc waiting at school scene already does and just have them not get tired where a human would.
All it does is just add another layer of powerscaling for no good reason and make things retarded, especially when it's something that Melty Blood largely isn't even beholden to. Same goes for the Nanaya clan, why can't they just be like that Belmonts in that they're a random barbarian clan that just knows how to kill inhumans? I'm fine with the mystic eyes but all the other shit is just absurd.
>>51238262
>>51240173
I'll say though that Shiki and his knife are very much within the territory of suspension of disbeleif, knives are already a very fast weapon to use and Shiki can completely ignore any resistance or having to pull back while using them. Not very realistic sure but it isn't too far away.
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>>51242035
>Art of her and SHIKI copulating would be peak too.
someone pls draw lovey dovey bio brosis sex with the tohnos...
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>>51242056
Because its way cooler.
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>>51242056
Like that other anon said. 1. It's way cooler 2. Magecraft exists in the Nasuverse and Tohsaka's body enhancing spells aren't some high end magic. Why wouldn't you become a demigod if you're a vampire with basic regeneration? No circuits? No problem! Use your body as a circuit, if you start destroying it take a break until it regenerates. Even obtaining Mystic Eyes is piss easy for a vampire that can regenerate his eyes, meanwhile a mage has one shot and the chances of going blind are incredibly high. 3. Freshly turned vampires aren't magical by default, it's just that Shiki had Amazon's Alexa in his head. 4. Arcueid isn't even a vampire, she's a wild Elemental with a physical body. The failed attempts of True Ancestors to turn humans into their peers has created what we call vampires.
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>>51242099
>>51242156
NTA, but I disagree that "it's way cooler", at least in Blue Glass Moon.
Why? Well first off, because low fantasy is cool.
And secondly, because it's a reboot of Tsukihime, (and not even a complete one).
If you start the setting with grandiose stuff like that, it's hard to make things even more impressive in a sequel (don't laugh at me, Nasu still speaks of doing Tsukihime 2).
Also Red Garden is going to feel weird in comparaison if they keep it low key, and even weirder if they scale it up.
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>>51242056
Because tsukihime doesnt take place in a vampire world, it takes place in a magical anime fantasy world. Besides, the concept of dead apostles being various different magi who mastered reality and warped it to suit their twisted goals is much cooler than the classic vampire
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>>51242181
nasu stuff has never been about power creep though, its always been about novel applications of niche maybe OP abilities defeating other even more OP abilities through some bullshit, and the characters are the main point anyway
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>>51243037
this, I don't understand the obsession with powerfaggotry
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>>51243037
>>51243240
>nasu doesn't do powerfaggotry
>'I can even kill God with my eyes!' -Shiki Ryougi (paraphrasing)
Nasu is definitely a powerscaler. He compared Arcueid's basic claw attacks to a modern tank shell and Ciel's black keys to an old school 1800s cannon. What does this mean? Arcueid should be able to effortlessly punch through concrete walls like a Marvel character. In F/SN Nasu even created a Dungeons & Dragons style system to powerscale servants. lol
>>51242181
Shiki fights aren't destructive though since he's more of a rogue, we've seen in Arcueid's route what a duel between him and SHIKI looks like.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Xwgxy7aDS8&t=5476s
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>>51243037
I don't know about you but the ending of Tsukihime remake with giant naked Arc was actually just completely obnoxious to me in its entirety and Nasu going "Probably won't do that again in red garden, or will I hehehe" sure doesn't give me any confidence
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I was shit talking Extrafags but I gotta admit that this Saber is very cute.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OI_qN5YQOPM
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>>51243838
I think she's getting fat...
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>>51244294
But Tohno-kun was even nice enough to cut her skirt and left leg down!
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same perso- i mean, creature?
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>>51244722
That's one of the students who was stupid enough to take her special syringe.
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>>51243764
yeah sure but it's just a trip. Powerscaling doesn't make any sense in this verse imo. Like why should I care what arbitrary nonsense Nasu decides at a given point in time? "have I ever told you how X can punch through concrete?"---> X proceeds to punch a whole through concrete walls and fucks up Y. I mean I don't really care. It's cool to have the DnD ratings sometimes just for the lulz but they don't mean anything and it doesn't reaally give you an idea of the characters abilities
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>>51234923
It happens a lot
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>>51245161
This is the first AE Arcueid I like. Short hair Arc is best Arc.
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Maybe I'm just a nihilistic fuck but I never understand why someone like Shiki wants to live that badly when he's a borderline cripple. I would've went insane and killed myself in that hospital long before meeting Aoko.
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>>51245303
Kids are retarded yet understanding of certain nuances for some reason
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>>51245303
Normal people want to live no matter what because life is good; you don't feel that because your dopamine receptors are fried. Unironically, touch grass.
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>>51245351
How is life good if you're stuck in a hospital bed with a perma headache due to seeing lines of death? There's no way a kid wouldn't stick his fingers in his own lines, either by accident or to escape the nausea.
>dopamine receptors
Alternative explanation: normies are insane enough to live in agony because they have no inner voice and no introspection. Functionally they're herbivore animals. A cow wouldn't purposely kill herself, right? Neither would a 92 IQ normie. Killing yourself requires overthinking life.
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>>51245380
>How is life good if you're stuck in a hospital bed with a perma headache due to seeing lines of death? There's no way a kid wouldn't stick his fingers in his own lines, either by accident or to escape the nausea.
Just close your eyes.
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>>51245380
A cow doesn't kill itself because its only problem is not having grass, a "normie" doesn't kill himself they want onto it to the last moment because of a mix of fear and genuine love for the world.
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Happy Lenday
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Fate/Extra Record achievement steam leak
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Fate/Extra Record localizer

https://goyimx.com/Oni_Dino/status/2095595898307039471
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>>51245593
Seems to be a straight forward remake from the looks of this achievement list. I don't mind. I would rather have this, than a shit show like FF7 Remake.
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>fate extra record leak alice and aoko scene
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Is she fucking retarded? How is defending your own life a proof that you are a vampire? Even a vegan would have killed her in that situation.
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>>51245934
You can't understand if you're not a Christian.
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>>51245619
>than a shit show like FF7 Remake.

Like Tsukihime Remake?
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>>51246025
Red Garden will redeem it. Just you wait!
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Quick reminder that Nasu wrote CCC because nobody liked Sakura in HF

>Q: In the first month of 2004 Fate went on sale. What was the reaction to it like?
>Takeuchi: They seemed to really like it, which made us very happy.
>Nasu: It was a title we believed in, so seeing it sell well gave us a lot of confidence. The reactions to it were both good and, in some cases, a little hollow. It was a victory that was both satisfying and hollow.
>Takeuchi: He's speaking of the Sakura route. A lot of people were disatisfied with it. Hence, the hollow feeling.
>Nasu: Yes, although recently more people are warming up to it. When it first came out, people were so excited and pleased by the Saber and Rin routes that they expected to keep proceeding down the royal road. The Sakura route is not like that at all, and they had trouble accepting that when it first appeared. We learned a lot from that experience.

>映像を信じていない、映像を見せられると自分の矛盾やウソを突きつけられると語ったきのこに『俺の文章はこ ういう絵に出来るのか』と思わせたhf……本当にすごいと改めて思った…
>At first, Nasu didn't believe HF could make for a good movie, and that seeing it animated would just expose his lies and inconsistencies, but seeing Sudou's adaptation amazed him and made him think "So my writing can be be turned into art like this?".
>これが先に出来ていたらCCCは無かったと言わしめる
>According to Nasu, if the HF movies had come out first, he would never have made CCC.
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>>51246029
>ooh husbant... you buy too much saint quartz
>now I am routeress...
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>>51246025
>implying the remake isn't a fucking 10/10 masterpiece
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>>51246181
It is, for FGO fans.
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>You are the IMPOSTOR!
>STOP THAT ORANGE STRIPE IN THE... shirt
>With THE OLD SWITCHBLADE
>STOP THAT IMPOSTOR
>AKIHA IS MINE ALONE
>I am THE Tohno SHIKI!
>Born with the birth name Tohno Shiki, September 29th 1983
>I"m the one with Tohno Makihisa as my father and Tohno Akiha as my sister
>Tohno Mansion, Misaki Town, Kanto prefecture
>STOP that IMPOSTOR BASTARD who's been posing with
>MY name
>MY adress
>MY sister
>EVERYTHING!
>STOP HIM!
>He deserves NOTHING!
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>>51246071
I mean yeah, used goods and all that.
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>>51245934
>regularly lose control of your own body
>gaps in your memory
>one time cut a woman into 17 pieces
>still choose to defend your life instead of martyrdom
That's solid evidence that Shiki's evil. Selfishness beyond a certain level becomes evil.
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>>51246622
is she okay?
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>>51246782
It's just a flesh wound.
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>>51246071

rewatching the HF movies I still don't like it. For a movie it didn't feel like an "event" compared to ufo UBW ANIME it felt like an EVENT too me. The HF movies really was a SAKURA ROUTE.
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I want to start reading FSN but I heard there are multiple different versions. There's the one on Nyaa with sex scenes and the one on steam without sex scenes but I heard online that the one on steam has new scenes about some lore that were added after they removed the sex scenes. What's the most interesting version to read?
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>>51247554
Just get the uncensored one on Nyaa.
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>>51247554
The Steam version is the most interesting, also it's not 800x800 or some shit.
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>>51247558
>also it's not 800x800 or some shit.
Why do you tell lies on the internet?
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>>51247557
>>51247558
>>51247562
yeah I think I'm gonna go with the nyaa one, thanks guys.
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>>51247562
How the fuck did you do that? Even on full screen it had the edges blacked out.
>>51247564
You better get a guide then.
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>>51247564
The version on Nyaa is the best one to use it has both the original uncensored sex scenes AND the Realta Nua replacement scenes. So you can view both on the Nyaa version and not miss anything.
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>>51247570
ah good to know
>>51247569
>You better get a guide then.
There's some flowchart in the nyaa file so I think I'm good to go
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>>51247569
>How the fuck did you do that? Even on full screen it had the edges blacked out.
You might have fucked up your screen settings.
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>>51247579
IIRC I played it in 2018 and here's how it looked: https://youtu.be/cUQTZAFLRp4?t=43
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>>51247585
>IIRC I played it in 2018
You might have been playing a outdated version. I'm using version 1.1.4
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/3860991
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>>51247594
>25.7 GiB
Damn! I don't know what you zoomers did to the game cuz mine was 1.6-2 GB. I got it from F95 not Nyaa and it came with a nice flowchart guide. The Steam version is 8 GB.
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>>51247613
It's mostly from the high resolution patches. If the portable install is too big for you, then get the manual installer and pick and choose what patches to apply.
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https://x.com/animecorner_ac/status/2098036792700129394
Aoko world tour.
Nice to have this confirmed so early.
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>>51247742
We're getting both Fate/Extra and Witch on the Holy Night in January, It's gonna be a busy month for me.
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Can I like remove the sex scenes for saber but keep them for Rin and Sakura? I don't feel like watching my King getting fucked
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>>51247885
If you're playing [Réalta Nua] Ultimate Edition, then you can just toggle off the H-scenes when you're playing the Fate route, then you can toggle them back on for the other two routes.
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>>51247900
cool thanks
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One last thing, what's the proper textual content I should use? I heard the translator for the "mixed" option censored some stuff Shirou says that is considered "sexist" or something
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>>51247935
I personally used the classic option, but it all boils down to personal preference. Just go with what you think is best for your playthrough.
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>>51247749
With the Mahoyo novels, Mahoyo material book, Mahoyo movie, TM Ace, NY Stream, Extra Record, and Twi Lumina, it's not a bad next few months.
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>>51245934
I haven't played it in a while but if I recall the idea of the test was if he was able to defend himself, not that he would try
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>>51248003
No, she was trying to cheer up Shiki by testing if he was a vampire. If he killed her, that would somehow prove that he was the killer and Ciel could eliminate him after she revived; if he couldn't do it that would show Shiki that he didn't have to worry about those visions of him hunting people, because he was too good to be a vampire and that he was seeing somebody else doing it.
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>>51247571
Not sure what the other anon meant, but only use the flowchart if you're stuck or trying to see every scene you missed.
I know people who follow flowcharts for their first reading and it takes away from the experience in my opinion.
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>>51248138
yeah I'm not gonna use it. Maybe for the bad ends I didn't get like I did in tsuki re but I usually do everything blind ;)
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>>51246181
ciel's route sucked
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:(
Honestly I thought it was my favorite route, followed by Arc's and then Ciel's. Didn't get why SHIKI looked different from his version in near side, but I guess this gonna be explained in Hisui or Kohaku story.
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>>51248469
Actually it's explained in a Ciel Sensei segment. One from an Akiha route bad end, I think.
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What's your opinion on FGO?
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>>51248489
Wow I'm glad you asked.
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>>51248503
This is an anime frame right?
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>>51248503
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>>51248386
well... kinda
even though i liked how they developed Noel's character in ciel's route
however, Arcueid's route compensates it fully
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crazy how they're gonna announce him in Twi Lumina tomorrow
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>>51248503
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>>51248156
Hell yeah, brother.
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white len
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>OOOOO BROS LEN CUNNY IS BACK
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>>51248652
>who is that twink??
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QRD on Melty Blood lore? Particularly Wallachia, White Len, and Dust of Osiris
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>>51248716
>>51248717
So TATARI is back?
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>>51248716
>>51248717
Fucking Extra Record. Fucking up even other series.
Would have been nice to see this revealed properly, but I'm glad anyway.
When the new seiyuu talked about what it was like to 'voice Len' it seemed almost confirmed.
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>>51248511
Looks like Ufo shading.
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>>51247985
https://www.kadokawa.co.jp/product/322607000748/
Throw in a Nakatani Mahoyo manga volume for good measure. The year of Mahoyo continues.
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>>51247885
I'd bust one out out of respect for my beloved king
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>>51242056
You're gonna hate this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOyHLW-gM5o
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>>51249731
>Strange advice, the more recent official translation is altogether significantly better
Anon, the first line in the fucking remaster is a mistranslation. It calls Lancer's spear a sword. Significantly better my fucking ass.
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>>51249738
I was just coming here to bitch about the translation.
>Skycraper
Oh, come the fuck on!! I'll admit that the old Mirror Moon translation I played back in the day made the magecraft explanations very awkward and confusing compared to the Remastered version (now I actually understand how magecraft works), but the first typo I noticed in the old MM version was during one of Rin's lectures on Day 8 or 9. With the Remastered version I've noticed over a dozen typos by Day 10 and I'm ESL myself. WTF? Can't they get native English speakers to translate Japanese entertainment? This is embarrassing.
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>>51249738
Well I used a comparative (better), not saying it's necessarily good in a consistent way. Also I suspect each route may have been translated by a different person. But as thankful as I am for the Mirror Moon tl there is something about its phrasing that sometimes me a headache, as if it's shrouded in a cloud of abstraction. The remastered version was all in all just more pleasant to read imo.
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>>51249859
>With the Remastered version I've noticed over a dozen typos by Day 10 and I'm ESL myself.
Yeah that is true. I think it gets better later on, but definitely careless that they couldn't hire an editor or maybe the editor was asleep.
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Weird passage where Nasu writes about Africans thirsting after Taiga
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So, are you excited for the Melty trailer?
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>>51250295
Not even Niinou spoiling White Len and the release date can spoil my excitement.
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>>51250295
stream link?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZbYY02l5pc
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Sex.
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>>51250552
>choker
Oh my.
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steam tags
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Why did Bazett close her eyes when Kuro kissed her? Kuro herself did not do it.
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Besides Iskandar (who is canonically bisexual) and Kayneth (who was afraid of being cheated on), how many other male characters comment on Diarmuid Ua Duibhne's beauty?
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https://store.steampowered.com/app/4113000/MELTY_BLOOD_TWILUMINA/
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>>51250624
On a side note, why doesn't Shiki's MEODP ever show in non-combat scenes like this. Feels like it pushes his design far too into Generic Male Protag territory when he doesn't have them on
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What are your genuine criticisms and dislikes in Nasu's works and writing style?
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>>51250781
He's insufferable whenever he goes on his pretentious rambling tangents that are utterly devoid of common sense. Kara no Kyoukai is the worst offender by far, but Tsukihime and Fate/Stay Night have some pretty bad cases of contrived drama based on half-baked moral codes that only ever made sense in Nasu's head and go against any kind of common sense.
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>april 2027
This year for sure.
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>>51250008
>weird
It's actually hilarious. Shirou can be funny at times.
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>>51250850
These days people read way too much into the author's personal beliefs, rather than treating it as something the character believes or as something necessary for the atmosphere of the story.
>(paraphrasing) 'And anyway... what's wrong with killing that which can be killed?'
The moment it dawned on me that Shiki Tohno is a lunatic, I doubt Nasu also believes this.
>Akiha's anti smartphone rant
It could be Nasu's inner boomer taking over, however smartphones are lame as fuck in a dark urban fantasy story. The author has to come up with an excuse for why his characters aren't with their noses in their smartphones all story like real-life people.
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>>51250008
This is the new GPT Astra translation?
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What a turbo slut! It's the ripped shorts, if she had regular shorts it would've been tasteful.
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These are the 7 characters playable at TGS with their new ingame sprites.
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There's also going to be a kigurumi walking around. Any guesses who this could be?
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>>51251311
>hard as fuck rapist (while somehow being still flamboyant)
>>51251315
>soft as fuck onahole
at least the powerscaling extends to sexual extremity
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>>51251101
why are girls allowed to wear ripped (ofc fake most of the time) pants in public but when I do I look like a creepy hobo rapist?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HAOmdaDk3E
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Anime Akiha is the cutest.
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Now that I'm finally reading FSN I feel like Ufotable completly butchered the original artstyle. Ufotable charadesign feels kinda lifeless
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>>51251878
yes
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>>51251604
So true.
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>>51251878
I'm kinda thankful for having read it without ever having watched the anime or even knowing what it was about.
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All I knew of Fate before starting was the padoru meme.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efdN69QscAg
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The "mixed" audio from nyaa has some ost from Tsuki re
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EVO used some footage from the unofficial Tsukihime Web version for their Melty post

https://x.com/Evo/status/2098182063140860409
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>>51252148
That's an Easter egg
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>>51252262
felt out of place, I decided to go with the realta nua audio mix instead
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New F/SN translation:

https://mao-tls.github.io/fate-stay-night

This one might be better than all previous human translations!
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>>51253426
No thanks bro, we already have the definitive translation.
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>>51251878
>Now that I'm finally reading FSN I feel like Ufotable completly butchered the original artstyle. Ufotable charadesign feels kinda lifeless

That's Tabata (Rin’s character designer). Tomonori Sudou, character designer since KnK and one of the most respectable person in ufotable is GOAT.

Here's what ufotable changed in Stay Night

UBW

>Sea of Flames is retconned into Fate/Zero's backstory for canonical reasons
>Nasu told Miura to change the noble phantasms to look cooler
>Saber vs Berserker (Episode 3) was changed to be a visual spectacle
>Nasu wrote Atrum Galliasta episode
>Gilgamesh doesn't call Berserker dogshit, as per Nasu's instructions
>Archer using UBW even though he is running out of mana, as per Nasu's instructions
>Director Miura’s idea to play “LAST STARDUST”
>Gilgamesh doesn't use Ea on Shirou, as per Nasu's instructions
>In the finale, Gilgamesh really sounds pissed off and desperately trying to gain the upper hand, while in Ufotable's version he is still keeping a little bit of his cool

>Miura: It really hit home how hard it was to cover as much as possible from source material divided into three stories. Heaven’s Feel was already slated to be produced after this, so we didn’t really go into Kirei Kotomine’s background, though. Either way, for this title, we had to keep the other routes M mind throughout the production process. Also another thing you said was “Make sure that Gilgamesh never uses Ea against Shirou in #23.” That made me panic – “What?! What am I going to do, this isn’t good!” – more than anything else.

>Nasu: Oh, I’m so sorry. But if he’d used it, it would’ve been difficult for Shirou (plus alpha) to block it on his own. Since it was just text in the visual novel, I was able to get away with it, but in an anime, with visuals, it would definitely look awkward… I mean, it would totally blow the cover of the one who comes to his aid. So I said to show Ea, but not use it, and said something along the lines of “What? Riddles?”

>Miura: Nasu added lines like “Have you overcome the challenge?” And Gilgamesh saying “What is your value?”. I don’t remember those exact lines but whatever. All Ufotable scripts are written in-house. That gives them some degree of flexibility as they can change earlier scripts while working on later episodes. They don’t have plans for releasing UBW background art.

UBW epilogue by Nasu
>Luvia reminisces about how she first met Shirou (he saved her from assassins with kanshou in one hand and a bag of groceries in the other).
>Thus we drastically cut the parts that weren't needed for an anime... but the generous people at Aniplex said, "It would be a waste if all of your Nasu-san's work was cut, so let's include it as a special in the second box set."
>Those of you interested in what was cut (Luvia's turn to shine and Luvia's turn to shine and Luvia's turn to shine, etc.) should check out the second box set.
>The final wasteland shot, mostly the same as what Nasu posted on his blog. Shirou is walking, he falters and sees traces that someone was there (the place Archer stopped). He looks up filled with hope and keeps walking. The camera stops on the traces of Archer's presence and watches Shirou go. (There's a note saying they could show Archer here if they wanted, but show him seeing Shirou off without any malice/grudge, just watching as if he's seeing something dazzling)

HF
>Lancer vs TA was a complete divergence from the VN because of the chase scene from the motorway -> rooftops, why did the location have to be set in a fucking motorway? How does the truck driver not notice the explosion of the car when Lancer pierces it with his spear, how does the truck driver not notice the two Servants clashing at the back of his truck? And why are they fighting in plain view in the fucking city?



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