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FAIry Edition.

• A space for sharing and discussing Touhou-related AI content, namely RP chatbots, lorebooks and images.

• Chatbot Resources:
Frontends for chatbots:
>https://docs.sillytavern.app
Koboldcpp (UI for local chatbots):
>https://github.com/LostRuins/koboldcpp/releases
Example website with several touhou chatbots. Also allows you to create your own:
>https://chub.ai/characters/
Akyuu Knowledge Lorebook (useful entry-level lorebook for giving your 2hu AI some context to RP with):
>https://chub.ai/lorebooks/heartofthecards/touhou-akyuuknowledge-20-4f128c7b8411

• Image Resources:
Advanced UI for local generation:
>https://github.com/Haoming02/sd-webui-forge-classic
>https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUI
Beginner site to browse for image models and LoRAs. Also allows you to make your own:
>https://civitai.com
Current 'meta' base image models:
>IllustriousXL
>NoobAI
>WAI
>ChosenMix
>Anima
Index of guides for local generation:
>To be updated?
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>>51272996
2hus in wedding dresses
we need happy posts
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I made this for /egg/ but might as well share it here.
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>>51272996
Mokou being gifted a cow print bikini but her face is of pure disgust.
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>>51272995
I love these album covers you do!
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>>51272996
Generate 2hu OCs
Tenkai proved we can do it without it sucking.
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>>51270118
I managed to throw together a bad basic test: https://files.catbox.moe/gdirm2.png
Also, here's a couple of unedited ones that Gemini made:
https://files.catbox.moe/xeuvhu.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/sy8yyo.jpg
Looks like equirectangular projection is a feature in photoshop-like programs, Affinity is free and works well though make sure to save frequently, my first attempt at this was basically wiped out when it hung while saving... This happens often enough (it happened about 6 times during this gen, which is composed of about 12 gens) that it is best to edit your rotation degrees to ensure that they're actually integers, then write them down for each gen you add in.
It does take a while, more so than my more complex gens since you can't easily prepare the next i2i during the current one unless you're very careful about overlapping. It's also fastest to prepare the whole backdrop first, then add the characters.
Obviously, you want to include fisheye in the positives and blurry in the negatives.
Also, Gemini is good at making them and even occasionally manages to make it seamless, though you should provide it with one for reference. Unsurprising that google can make them given how many they'll have available for training data. GPT's ones are functional but not as good.

>>51272222
>did you try something different for the third image
Nothing in particular, it's just from 'flat color' getting underpowered from tag dilution. It mainly came out that way way back before I outpainted and made it not just "1girl, pov"; I considered changing it to match but felt that lighting works better for implying it being a while later.
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>>51273087
Tenkai worked because it was LLM hallucination and not someone's specific ideals of their waifu, therefore everybody could get in on it. I guess you could just wrongprompt more 2hus but I think it loses its charm doing it too much.

Start to descend into the entire gyate universe nonsense. Or worse, c**kiefaggotry
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>>51272222
Quads have spoken, Kutaka oral is blessed
such a fan of this kind of slutty oral, great pic
>That, AND it's entertaining to put Eiki in scenarios that undermine her position.
Goes without saying don't it
>The clashing artstyles we all have might make that a tall ask, especially considering backgrounds. One anon's style might look great on a specific type of background (let's say, a VN-esque kind-of 3D one) but absolutely terrible on another one, and vice-versa.
That was my first concern too, its what kills just about every suggestion for a thread-wide collab type thing, I was hoping you could do something like set the background at night so that the background is more cloaked in darkness so its effectively just a steamy pool with a black background (but obviously not literally just that cause that would look terrible) so then the only thing you'd have to worry about is character art styles clashing with each other.
So I guess if people want to do collab stuff it would have to just be one on one still
>But anon, being self-indulgent and self-inserting is what genning (You)r own AI images is ALL about!
This is more of a psychological me-problem of never being able to be honest even with myself on what I actually want I've had since I was a kid
>But I thought tengu weren't allowed in the Sanctuary?
The CoLA chapter with Nina in it mentioned a lot of outsiders both human and youkai have since stopped avoiding the sanctuary out of respect like they used to and have entered it following the FW incident to do investigating much to the annoyance of the Yamanba. It really tracks with how the Tengu are for them to treat this as "holy shit a whole new base of potential readers right in our backyard" and start blockade running
>The cherry on top of the cake.
what a sweet way of putting it, true love right there
>I prefer the headcanon of Hatate being so high-caste that Tenkai kind of grosses her out purely for being poor, hehe.
I don't imagine Hatate being that type of character... that's more Tenshi's job
>God, even with you explaining it this seems *way* out of my skill level, the converter seems interesting but ensuring continuity sounds like it'd be a bitch and a half, though granted I in specific have always been pretty bad at that sort of stuff. Other anons here seem to be better at it.
Hope *anyone* gives it at least a try but it does sound to me like the only way someone's making a 360 slop image is if they're talented enough to draw a 360 image in the first place just for the background work... hmm though another theory idea would be to load up like a gmod map. Take photos of like the 6 directions you want to work with then i2i that so that the background would have consistency
>They're really good, the OC thread is one of the few on /jp/ aside from this one I still look at semi-regularly nowadays, it's a shame AI has garnered the reputation that it has and that the OC anons likely want nothing to do with us because of what is essentially just a completely forced conflict.
Same, and same though I've given my reasons as to why I used to dislike this stuff myself and a lot of it comes from people proclaiming to be on the pro-AI side being jackasses. Infact I can easily see how an attempted collab attempt would go down and it would probably involve someone from /v/hu unneccessarily shitstirring with inflammatory remarks that sound like they're coming from a Saturday Morning Cartoon villain sabotaging the whole thing.

>>51273040
Almost got lost some gold being posted after the end of the last thread there,

>>51273021
Is this Orange bathing in orange jam? Creative and strangely alluring

>>51273194
Oh sick someone pulled through and gave it a try
This didn't turn out toooo bad but it is very trippy and claustrophobic
lot of rabbun OCs around here too, I appreciate it
>https://files.catbox.moe/xeuvhu.jpg
I think it genned a regular panorama drawing and not a 360 one but honestly throwing it into the 3D viewer it didn't turn out bad. Maybe you don't even really have to bother with left, right, top, bottom at all!
>https://files.catbox.moe/sy8yyo.jpg
Yeah no turns out regular panorama works surprisingly well with the 360 viewer thing, it just isn't really perfect but still it's got potential

>>51273223
Gyah, you've convinced me for sure with that last line
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>>51273410
>Is this Orange bathing in orange jam?
It's her being made into orange juice.
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>>51272996
Kagerou shaving her legs, armpits and private area then looking up and seeing a full moon. She then burst out of the bathroom all hairy distraughtly shouting "I just shaved!"
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>>51273410
>I don't imagine Hatate being that type of character... that's more Tenshi's job
Tenshi willingly hangs out with Shion. She doesn't judge like that.
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Weirdo.

Pepperless: https://files.catbox.moe/3exo2z.jpg

>>51269893
>something about the Ministry makes them extra-appealing to put in lewd
The Ministry's perpetually broke. Of course it makes sense to put their clerks to alternative employment. QED: Komachi tempting innocent men into gambling. More souls for the Oni sticks as a side effect, too. It is literally creating jobs!
>Rika-chan would look great in *any* tank.
Especially of the top kind, I bet.

>>51270116
>the superior forest hag of choice is made clear
It was a forestgone conclusion.
>Wonder if she could set anyone else up.
The real question is, who'd benefit most from getting grow biggered by her mallet?

>>51271723
Why's Remi so shocked? She's the one who wanted to watch Patche feed her pet 'cubus.
... Now, do I mean Koa or (You)?

>>51272222
More Ministry shenanigans. Next thing they're going to release a self-themed gacha.
>some nitwit is bound to force the usual drama shitstorm into the interaction
I hate to be a downer - but am one, so I'll add that I feel the same. Staying in my corner whittling my own thing is enough.
Also needs to be kept in mind that, although we tend to be largely civil in here, other genAI threads around the site, while oft more knowledgeable, are very much prone to schizo blowouts and lashing out. And the overlap means we haven't only ourselves in here and the OC thread to worry about. Unless everybody turns up their tourist sensors and pointedly ignores the trash, I just don't see it not going off the rails.

>>51272995
They say two out of three people in Gensokyo are gay...

>>51273087
OCs? Nobody here would stoop that low.
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>>51273087
What makes an OC a 2hu OC?
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>>51273223
>Tenkai worked because it was LLM hallucination
More details? I didn't know that.
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Also, in the interest of not inevitably forgetting, I'll just drop these trashier gens in one go.
What happened to "we're both guys, so I'd never"? https://files.catbox.moe/te638q.jpg
Grassroots bribing the law: https://files.catbox.moe/z8f38o.jpg
How much encouragement can one hobgoblin need? https://files.catbox.moe/6bamkt.jpg

>>51273040
I can SEE the fat roiling and bubbling underneath that skirt. DIET. NOW!

>>51273194
Shoot, I was about to snide on the subject of censorship going as far as putting clothes on people in baths, but that first one went over fine, huh.

>>51273410
>set the background at night so that the background is more cloaked in darkness
I reckon the reverse would work out better, if at all. Most styles can render simple head-on lighting/shading reliably; it is low contrast/dulled colour situations that're far more liable to collapse your style, due to poorer-defined distinction between flat colour areas and/or lineart. Way I see it, for a multi-slopper collab like that, the best springboard would be a very simple (maybe even a sketch_background) base, with an area designated for each entrant - and then each of these either sticking to default lighting and simple_background or filling in a detailed background only around their character.
>holy shit a whole new base of potential readers right in our backyard
Very bold of them to assume the mountain trollops can read.

>>51273415
Is it 100%?

>>51273613
Tenshi's fanon persona's so pervasive it's exceedingly easy to forget she's actually quite benevolent... even if she does enjoy occasional fawning.

>>51273989
https://aibooru.online/wiki_pages/tenkai-chan_(2huai)
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>>51273989
I asked a rather shitty local model to describe Aya just checking how deep its 2hu knowledge went and it spat out what led to Tenkai instead. The rest of the thread all jumped in with the naming and personality which was really cute.
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>>51274013
fuck that is cute
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>>51274013
Interesting, what's the first image of her people generated?
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>>51274038
Also from me but pretty basic. I like the sarashi look that caught on.
https://warosu.org/jp/thread/49740963#p49743923
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>>51274046
>July 2025
WTF, I'd swear she was around in late 2023. Now I'm the one hallucinating.
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>>51273021
Nooo, my beloved Orange...
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>>51274000
Miko giving Miko the ins & outs of what goes on in Gensokyo. She pleasured his grandmother, now it's his turn.
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May as well finish the trio: https://files.catbox.moe/snx1xj.png

>>51273021
I'm not used to my oranges being this big... what the hell do they fertilize their stuff with in Gensokyo?

>>51273079
Thank you! They're really fun to work on, and the source material makes for some pretty good composition ideas. I really like the original cover for OP, for example. Very surrealist I think? Not sure.

>>51273087
Echoing what was said, especially >>51273223 's point about it losing its charm if done too much. I remember shortly after Tenkai we had one or two more people try to do the same thing and even gen characters out of it but it just didn't have the same appeal. Only "OC" I'd consider doing would be a nameless background character that doesn't deviate too much from established designs, like a Kappa or Tengu mob, but at that point can it really be considered OC?

>>51273194
Damn, really nice attempt! I sort of get what the other anon said about yours being a bit claustrophobic (that's a lot of perverts in a very tiny space), but the fact that you managed to do it to begin with is seriously impressive!
Also WOW the Gemini ones look good on the 360 viewer, mind sharing the prompt? Using them for a solid base and then I2I-ing them into my artstyle sounds *very* appealing.
>felt that lighting works better for implying it being a while later.
Gotcha.

>>51273410
>Kutaka oral is blessed
She'd probably know a thing or two about throats.
>Goes without saying don't it
Dunno, I thought it needed an image to really drive the point home.
>its what kills just about every suggestion for a thread-wide collab type thing
Collabs are just difficult in general to organize I think, I feel like I didn't even do that good of a job organizing the collage we did despite collages being on the easier side of things for group stuff. I've been thinking of what the next one should be to sort of get some practice in and get better at it, but I don't know. Regardless, I'd be up for a single-background collab but we'd all have to agree on a common theme and so-on, and the background issues would persist... but actually I MAY have just gotten an idea for something we could all do.
>CoLA chapter with Nina
Explains it, still catching up...
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>>51273415
Come on I can think of at least a COUPLE of ways of getting juice out of the girl without melting her!

>>51273938
>Pepperless
Huh? There's still nothing there! Also is Su-san ok?...
>put their clerks to alternative employment.
Touché to that. Speaking of, how's Kutaka's nurse sidejob going along? ...actually, did you ever give your Komachi a sidejob? I know you made your Shikieiki an OL.
>Especially of the top kind, I bet.
BET. You will hear from me tomorrow.
>who'd benefit most from getting grow biggered by her mallet?
Without breaking the fourth wall? Your Keine would probably appreciate it. Breaking the fourth wall? Your Aya, for God's sake!
>we haven't only ourselves in here and the OC thread to worry about
Yeah, good point.
>They say two out of three people in Gensokyo are gay...
Star definitely swings both ways, does she count as one or half?

>>51274000
>"we're both guys, so I'd never"?
Two in three people, huh?
>Grassroots bribing the law
Actually had to do a double take on Sekibanki, where IS her head, though? And most importantly where's the fish? This looks more like a distraction than a bribery.
>encouragement
That is some underwear.

>>51274013
Slight correction: we jumped in *after* you genned that first image of her.

>>51274048
Mixing it up with the 'tene maybe?
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>>51273415
ah it's a bit viscous so it looks more jammy

>>51273613
She literally spent the entire time hanging out with Shion still doing the "wow peasants suck" routine, then again I think in 17.5 when the Yorigamis deluded themselves into thinking they were rich they also acted like that so maybe that's something they have in common lol

>>51273938
It's an offer you can't refuse (What was even the point of the pepper lol)
the unexpectedly bright blue hair secondary colour works well on her
Although what I find drawing my attention is that adorable su-san stomping on bugs, very cutes
>The Ministry's perpetually broke. Of course it makes sense to put their clerks to alternative employment.
That's your personal taboo preferences leaking in (though I say that, I don't think I've ever seen you do anything with Reimu like that, personal bias or market oversaturation?)
>QED: Komachi tempting innocent men into gambling. More souls for the Oni sticks as a side effect, too. It is literally creating jobs!
It's true, although that's more Hisami's job
>Especially of the top kind, I bet.
yeah like a white coloured one and oh boy she just got caught out in the rain too
>The real question is, who'd benefit most from getting grow biggered by her mallet?
If we mean bodyparts and not literal size then...
Marisa, she's all skin and bones
>Next thing they're going to release a self-themed gacha.
From one Hell to another
>They say two out of three people in Gensokyo are gay...
POV is presumably Luna so which one of them's the cunny muncher? (and what should the rest do about it? https://youtu.be/EaCvFNH28lo?t=65)
Speaking of the three fairies, y'know something I realised about the Prismrivers is that their hat symbols are a Sun, Star and Moon... why don't I ever see them paired up? There's some fun interaction potential there (I mean you got Lyrica the youngest most innocent one being paired up with Star)

Got a busy w*rkday so I'm just sending what I typed up so far while on break but I did see the other replies, hope I got enough energy left over to reply when I get back
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>>51273960
this is actually a topic I feel quite passionately about so this reply will be a standalone
When a lot of people try making Touhou OCs they fall for some common pitfalls
-Trying to make a high-level final boss / incident culprit type character
-Trying to make their OC just a touhouified version of a diety or legendary beast from some other mythology except being too faithful to the original mythology and essentially just presenting an almost unchanged version
-designing their OC like a gacha game character making them stand out way too much

In order to make a Touhou OC that fits Touhou there's two ways of going about it
Method 1.)
You need to actually study how ZUN adapts youkai and gods into Touhou and this requires a good comprehension of both Touhou lore and the IRL mythology that it's based on
As an example I think one design rule that's become quite apparent with the most recent games is that ZUN likes making characters based on "foreign" mythological beasts and things but he "Japanifies" it and makes the character actually something from Japanese folklore that's merely adopting the look and characteristics of the foreign mythology
For instance: Chiyari was designed to be a Chupacabra (it's kinda obvious if you put the joke aside but he also just plain admitte this to be the case) however Chiyari isn't literally a Chupacabra she's a Tenkajin, Biten = Sun Wukong actually a Sarugami, Enoko = Cerberus but actually a Yamainu, Nareko = A sphinx but actually a Dosojin, Nina = Venus but actually a Shen (which is odd because we've had Hecatia who is meant to be the Greek goddess she's based on)
As such you have a very clear cut template on how to make characters based on non-japanese folklore that fit the Touhou setting

Method 2.)
You use existing Touhou lore as a way to branch out when making OCs
This is a Method I have been begging more people to use
Basically Touhou already provides us with plenty of examples of different "species" of character for you to use as reference for making new ones

We know a lot about human life in Gensokyo thanks to the printworks so you could make an OC human, infinite potential here maybe a waitress at a cafe, a researcher of the non-humans and the supernatural, an engineer interested in technology more than mysticism and faith
You can also use our human and part human MCs for ideas too
Shrine Maidens are a good but risky choice (as you don't want to make anyone too high profile) as we know a lot about how Shrine Maidens operate in the setting, make someone whose a part-time or incredibly weak Shrine Maiden who serves a feral god like Hina (and in-fact making human Shrine Maiden OCs as servants of existing god characters is another good way to come up with ideas)
A human magician is a great and quite versatile option especially since you also have the option to have them make the change into a full blown Youkai magician like Alice
Half-human characters like a Half-Phantom or Half-Youkai can lead to a lot of ideas. Not exactly half-human in the hybrid sense but therianthrope characters are another good one since not only are the rules for their design laid out pretty clearly in PMiSS we have Keine and Kagerou as good examples to follow

Fairies are ridiculously easy to make OCs for as we have had so many examples of fairy designs (like their different wing wing shapes) and fairy behaviour (like their abilities tied to the aspect of nature they're derived from) that you can draw on for reference to keep it feeling plausible. Make a fairy based on the rain, mud, forest fires, lightning whatever the hell you want as long as its natural phenomena

Youkai are tricky but reusing an existing species to make a character of that species gives you more to work with. For instance part of what makes Tenkai work as an OC is that she's a Tengu so she has been leveraging the already existing Tengu lore to add more flavour to her character.
Some like Tsukumogami and Beast youkai pretty much hand you a template for designing a billion OCs since they're just objects / animals ascended to youkaihood so you could have it be based on anything so long as you study the designs of the tsukumogami and beast youkai characters from the games to understand how to design them properly

the minor feral gods (think Aki sisters, Hina, Yorigami sisters) are also kind of tricky but I think the three characters (okay two character pairs an one character singular) I listed as examples are very good to use as reference since they're not based on an actual pre-existing individual deity in Japanese folklore. With gods you can kind of make one for anything you want

A runaway Moon Rabbit (or perhaps Lunarian) OC is also a good choice since we have a variety of Moon Buns to draw inspiration from especially since Seiran's story in UDoALG implies there's a lot more of them now

Basically make OCs that expand on the existing groups and species by making new members.
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>>51275496
Yes, 10kai and 'tene work because they are basically ascended mobs with 0 impact in the lore, so they don't feel like annoying God-mode Mary Sues.
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>>51272996
Something with the aki sisters since its autumn now
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>>51275623
>so they don't feel like annoying God-mode Mary Sues
It's kind of funny that Tenkai is the exact opposite of that and is just comically weak.
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>>51274000
>What happened to "we're both guys, so I'd never"?
I don't think I've said before but the bathing room scenarios you did are really erotic (I think every single one has been with the taoists lol even putting this specific Miko "plotline" aside)
>Bribing the law
was it that important to see Hakurei-kun's expression to remove her head? Wait I think I see the theme of these gens, these are all follow-ups to pics you did a while back. I remember that one of the Grassroots (sans the waggy) greasing Hakurei-kun's union and the Miko one
>Gobbo
Yes that is the theme of the day isn't it? Little guy looks to be in bliss, normally not much of a fan of gobbo porn but this pic is hot
Thanks for the follow-ups, they all turned out great I was thinking we'd never get em
>Way I see it, for a multi-slopper collab like that, the best springboard would be a very simple (maybe even a sketch_background) base, with an area designated for each entrant - and then each of these either sticking to default lighting and simple_background or filling in a detailed background only around their character.
tricky part is still deciding who gets what kind of portion and where, something like a kuku.lu drawboard has the spaces get filled in more organically but slopping isn't exactly something you can do in real-time.
I still prefer the idea of something with a shared backdrop to put the characters in as it'd give people more organic ideas on where to squeeze in characters into the free space (also I like the idea of the end result looking like one of those NoiseTanker banner images)
Still I'd like to see someone just go for it and see if everyone else joins in

>>51275623
'Tene is a fairy and as mentioned fairies are really easy to make fitting OCs for since they're so well defined. In this case her design actually being technically made by ZUN helps
But yeah this is also why the cast of a lot of Touhou fangames kinda flop. Flickerframe Festival ends up being a perfect example of how not to do things considering it compiles characters from other fangames
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>>51272996
Here's a request for ya
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>>51274396
>mind sharing the prompt
For picrel, I did "Create an anime-style equirectangular projection image of Reimu and Marisa at the Hakurei Shrine" while giving it
https://hugin.sourceforge.io/docs/manual/Equirectangular_Projection.html
Looks like 'shrine' ends up as more of a projection than a panorama, meanwhile 'onsen' is circular and not as much in its training data. Perhaps things like 'street' etc. might work well too?
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>>51274396
She looks so offended about it, like she doesn't look particularly angry that's the expression of someone going "um, EXCUSE me!??"
Hmm girls milking dicks onto their body, add that to the list of kinks I never thought too deeply about just how much I actually liked them before. Makes me wish the pic came with the alt option for extra mayo
>what the hell do they fertilize their stuff with in Gensokyo?
Icemilk, I hear its very good for growth

>Only "OC" I'd consider doing would be a nameless background character that doesn't deviate too much from established designs, like a Kappa or Tengu mob, but at that point can it really be considered OC?
See my deranged rant that hit textlimit above
thing is *nameless background* character is hardly a character at all, you can make a character who is meant to be front, centre and unique while still not deviating from the established designs and having them remain unimportant. I think the issue with the characters people genned in the thread afterwards is that they didn't look like Touhou just like generic anime things like a blue horned girl (that kinda reminded me of an artist's porn OC I saw once)
as I was listing out character species there I did actually start thinking if maybe people could try making a couple of shots at more OCs following a theme of either some AI theme, an aspect of this thread or /jp/ like with Tenkai but instead of a Tengu going for something like a fairy, a feral god or a moon bun instead but I fear Tenkai was lightning in a bottle and I don't want to risk breaking the bottle
...though honestly Fairy is still like really easy to do and we all seem to be fans of their kind around here
Though that being said, I think one issue is that frankly the OCs are gonna inevitably drift towards our gooner tendencies and end up not feeling so Touhou as a result of people prioritising optimising them for scenarios over fleshing out how they'd live in the setting (Tenkai got saved lol)
Though in the end I'm really spergy about this topic so just run any OCs by me for quality check, it's the best way

>I sort of get what the other anon said about yours being a bit claustrophobic
I think I see the issue, the characters needed to be made smaller with the fact that they will feel closer in the actual 360 viewer in mind.
>Also WOW the Gemini ones look good on the 360 viewer, mind sharing the prompt? Using them for a solid base and then I2I-ing them into my artstyle sounds *very* appealing.
If you get that working I might actually have some very first 360 requests lol
this was an idea I was thinking about *before* the topic of 360 panoramas came up, it was a simple silly idea of Lily, Letty and Yuuka in bikinis and Lily being sandwiched between Letty and Yuuka as a joke about Spring's placement between the seasons and Lily being smaller than those two and I realise the 360 panorama format works good with it
-Letty, Lily, Yuuka and the Aki Sisters standing around posing either wearing bikinis or nude (or fully clothed if you just want to make something cool and not lewd for a bit) have it follow the lineup of seasons so Lily in the middle, Letty to the Left, Yuuka to the Right, have one Aki sister to the left of Letty and the Right of Yuuka so they'll be next to each other when viewed in 360, all looking at the camera with whatever expression you think would fit
I think that's simple enough that there won't be any weirdness mucking things up

Although this request is open to anyone who wants to give it a try
Sidenote: I did try browsing your aibooru page to see if you did any "wide screen" gens that might work for a panorama thing but nothing really was and the top and bottom would get pinched too much as a result
Though I did figure out that mysterious LORA you alluded to, y'know what's funny is I have a pirated copy of RA2 installed, I have the mod installed, it's been there for about a year, I just have been getting my ass kicked by severe demotivation and depression to be in the mood to play it
>She'd probably know a thing or two about throats.
Oh right, that's the joke (^ ^;)
>but actually I MAY have just gotten an idea for something we could all do.
Intriguing.
>Explains it, still catching up...
Damn you Rinnosuke and your boring ways, this is why Touhou is a girl's job!
You have to see her pretty Nina flower, it's so pretty on her!!
Also Marisa having to tardwrangle her conspiracy theorist daughter is really entertaining
Speaking of her while I was at work I ended up finding a 10 cent Euro coin (I don't live in the EU so it must have been dropped by a tourist) that was under one of the counters. It was minted on my birth year and it happened to be the Italian 10 cent Euro specifically
...Can you guess whose face is on the Italian 10 cent Euro?
That's a lucky charm if I ever saw one, I think things will be looking up for me from now on so long if I keep a hold of it
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Was asked to do more Hakurei incest. At least, that's my excuse.
Vertical: https://files.catbox.moe/2rdtcb.jpg
Horizontal: https://files.catbox.moe/916qjq.jpg
Silent: https://files.catbox.moe/q1h97r.jpg https://files.catbox.moe/3my16p.jpg

>>51274046
>I like the sarashi look that caught on.
We were this close to a side-slit-slut Tengu...

>>51274396
Wonder if she realises it's exactly that expression what keeps the men coming (wheeze) back.
>at that point can it really be considered OC?
Wouldn't consider any background character to be an OC unless they reappear more than thrice, myself. Then again, I don't take issue with OCs; I just don't believe they ought to take attention away from the real 2hus.
... Are PC98s real 2hus? That's for the philosophers to decide.
>I MAY have just gotten an idea for something we could all do.
Menacing.

>>51274399
>There's still nothing there!
What did you expect? Weirdo.
>Also is Su-san ok?...
Keeping busy however she can while her big sister's off doing boring things, yanno?
>Star definitely swings both ways
Really! It's Sunny who strikes me as an "as long as it's fun" type. Star'd be into rougher stuff, and you seldom get that with wome-- Oh. Gensokyo. Right.
>Keine would probably appreciate it.
Keine-sensei doesn't need remarkable mammaries to be appreciated by her students!
>And most importantly where's the fish?
What madwoman takes her fish friend to a romp in a waterless park? Please be more considerate.
>That is some underwear.
Only some, though.
>Kutaka's nurse sidejob
Hm. I'd forgotten about that. Making a note.
>did you ever give your Komachi a sidejob?
I did her once as an OL, but it was probably not canon. After all,
>Komachi
>working

>>51274524
>(What was even the point of the pepper lol)
Sorry, did that fluster you?
>I don't think I've ever seen you do anything with Reimu like that, personal bias or market oversaturation?
Alimony. I mean, anonymous donations.
>Hisami's job
Excuse you. Hisamin doesn't need some tacky fetish getup to lead men by the nose straight to the Oni pits.
... What do you mean, she's wearing one by default?!
>Marisa, she's all skin and bones
That twiglike stature is a status symbol. Of magicianship, that is.
>why don't I ever see them paired up?
Why don't you see the fairies riding the sisters' hats in place of the usual symbols? Questions with no answers.
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>>51276118
not sure if it's just me, but Horizontal doesn't seem to be working
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>>51276128
Fat fingered the paste. Here it is:
https://files.catbox.moe/f5220c.jpg
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And here's a bonus trashy Outside World Yukarin.
With wordswords: https://files.catbox.moe/nn0ixt.jpg
With none: https://files.catbox.moe/v3mjw2.jpg

>>51275706
>was it that important to see Hakurei-kun's expression to remove her head?
Started off with it on his shoulder, actually, but this way struck me as funnier. Where IS that head? That's the Sekibanki experience.
>that is the theme of the day isn't it?
You got me.
>I still prefer the idea of something with a shared backdrop
As sloppers, aren't we supposed to take the easy way out...? Ah, well.
Shared background could work, but, barring meticulous cropping, you're always going to end up with changes around the inserted (inpainted) character. And that's where the stylistic differences might come in worst.
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>>51272996
Kurapii
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Still working on today's gen but in the meantime I may as well get that collab gen idea out of the way, I was thinking that since backgrounds seem to be a limiting factor, maybe we should just... get rid of them? A full-on white background would be *very* lame though and I think it'd make gens feel a little too "separated" from eachother, if that makes sense, so I thought we could maybe have a white background with a SINGLE thing in the middle that could serve as a focal point for characters to gather around and interact with, sort of like picrel, but with a lot more blank space. Could be something like a tree, or a logo, stuff like that. I'd imagine most people see this and think of something along the lines of hanging off of it or standing on top of the object, like picrel but you could, for instance, just have your character be in the white space itself, add a little oval-shaped shadow underneath them so that they're not just hovering in a white background, and make them do all sorts of things like walking towards/away from it, pointing/aiming at it, throwing something at it, etc. When it comes to actually organizing and putting all of this together, though, uhhh... I guess the blob idea isn't too bad? The other idea I had is we'd take turns and have one anon add their character, then another one would call dibs and add theirs, so-on, but the problem with that is an anon could either take days to do so or someone could just come in and stall on purpose. With the blob idea someone would ideally mark their spot, work on whatever it is they want to add there, and then submit their work WITH THE BACKGROUND PRESENT because I don't want to have the work of cropping stuff into the image or worse yet having to figure out what tags/LoRAs you used in order to help your character blend into the image better via a denoised inpaint.
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Oh and I forgot to mention but needless to say that once everyone submits everything I'd then edit all of it together.
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Arima rooms?
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>>51276347
Keeping the characters in relatively separate blobs would enable everyone to work independently, because masking the finished blobs onto the raw background afterwards would be a cinch. In any case, we'd still need to assign spots beforehand.
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>>51276404
Yes, this is the just exactly what I was suggesting with that second alternative, though. Did it maybe come across as me saying something else?
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No, it's late and a grue accidentally part of the sentence.
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>>51276118
Looks like the second link got 404'd but the silent version works, strangely feels fitting (nvm spotted your fixed link below)
Really hot buuut I think I prefer the silent version, good for the imagination
>what keeps the men coming (wheeze) back.
Komachi's the one with people coming on her back though
>Then again, I don't take issue with OCs; I just don't believe they ought to take attention away from the real 2hus.
again I think you can have a character with "presence" but you have to be careful with how you do it
I think despite her dumb name Mitori is still falls on the better side of fanmade characters in both design and concept and she's literally meant to be the Phantasm boss for SA
It's risky I'd say, so you're better off sticking with small fry type characters.
>What did you expect? Weirdo.
I expect Alice would get off her bum and gotten some nipples made by now. I can't expect she needs to travel all of Gensokyo molesting people to find the perfect reference model
>Really! It's Sunny who strikes me as an "as long as it's fun" type.
I was gonna say while making my Sopranos joke I was thinking on it and the only answer I thought of is "Luna is the only one I don't see having gay potential"
>Star'd be into rougher stuff, and you seldom get that with wome-- Oh. Gensokyo. Right.
Are you saying women aren't into the rough stuff because I got this like survey on common kinks between men and women and all the rough violence type kinks are mostly skewed in favour for the women: Choking, Rapeplay, Bondage and Masochism
Feminists might argue that this is cause of Society (tm) molding women to be brainwashed into liking being acted upon violently but I've heard women talk about their kinks before and it sounds to me like they just genuinely like this stuff
>What madwoman takes her fish friend to a romp in a waterless park?
See my long ago rambles about Nina being Wakasagihime's friend she has to suffer the antics of whenever her more dependable friends aren't around. They're off screen having adventures, maybe getting groceries while poor Waggy has to wait for Nina to stop rambling to the clerk to push her to where she wants to go
...speaking of fish, my curiosity has finally boiled over thanks to that Nitori gen in the last thread and subsequent discussion so I'm gonna just ask for it. Gen a scenario of Nina with the weird aquatic youkai pussy too (then gen a followup panel of Nina waking up and punishing Doremy for giving her such horrible nightmares my idea would be the anime pulling on the cheeks thing but if you got better ideas go for it)
>Hm. I'd forgotten about that. Making a note.
a Nursing Sidejob is a tag i'm sure
>Sorry, did that fluster you?
Nah but it's like the pic was perfectly blueboard safe unless the jannies are going after Barbies now... that's a fun idea for stupid dialogue to put over a Medicine gen this song was always really sexual anyways https://youtu.be/ZyhrYis509A?t=6
>I mean, anonymous donations
Explains why Yukari sneaks them in, though what's funny is that with my own headcanons that's also incest. Geeze the Hakurei Family Tree is competing with the Habsburgs
>... What do you mean, she's wearing one by default?!
See that's why she ranks number 2 on my list of characters I'd like to bang (I reaaally like her outfit and hair okay?)
>That twiglike stature is a status symbol. Of magicianship, that is.
Snrk this makes me wonder if Alice feels insecure about growing out so much from the Mystic Square days "Muuuum!!! They keep getting bigger, stop feeding me so well and cut back on the Mugemilk"
"Mugemilk? Alice dear this is homegrown"
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>>51272996
If you're doing album cover requests, would anybody try the Roxy Music s/t cover? I don't care which Touhou you choose. I just think it's an iconic cover. Posing's kind of complex so may be easier to give to a drawfriend but I guess if anyone wants a challenge. Album's incredible btw, several songs on there that are totally unique as far as I'm concerned

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zx8xOHddBvo
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>>51276219
I forget that Yukarin's abilities would enable her to be a cougar on the prowl
Though now that makes me wonder why "Yukari gapping the girls to go have a night out in the town in the outside world" isn't a more cliche scenario. Maybe a follow-up to the previous pic would be fun of Hakurei-kun convincing Reimu to take up Yukari's offer to take her out for a night Only for Yukari to hop back in the gap with Hakurei-kun leaving Reimu out there by herself
In this case the dialogue made the image better, I ended up reading the text first before actually giving Yukari's design a look so it was like a diamond down there
>Started off with it on his shoulder, actually, but this way struck me as funnier. Where IS that head? That's the Sekibanki experience.
Started off with a kiss how did it end up like th- sorry I heard that song way too many times in the car
Guessing it got bucked off in the upthrust
>you're always going to end up with changes around the inserted (inpainted) character. And that's where the stylistic differences might come in worst.
My idea was that you use the background as a way of positioning the characters but when it comes to the actual pics submitted for the final collage you'd cut them out of the background and just have it be the solo character transparent. Something like those threads where someone posts a pic of like a cafe or something and you're supposed to edit random shit into it but the images are tailormade to work *with* the background.

>>51276347
I'm starting to realise all of you thought I meant "slop directly onto the background image" and not "use the background image as reference for a character gen to be cut and pasted onto the original background later"
Been hanging out too much with Satori What? Someone has to keep her company since nobody besides whiteoutlineanon likes genning her like that out of fear of dealing with her creepy tubes

>>51276500
Accidentally punched part of the sentence to smitheroons you mean https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?tags=embodiment_of_scarlet_devil_new_classic+rumia&z=5
https://youtu.be/lk-X6e5FioE
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"Why couldn't you have stayed the night!?...": https://files.catbox.moe/7mikb7.png
Tried a bunch of new things for this one, mostly behind-the-scenes workflow stuff. Overall quite pleased.

>>51275706
>this is also why the cast of a lot of Touhou fangames kinda flop
Reminds me of that PoFV-style game that I was ALMOST excited for until I saw the cast had like 50 billion donutsteels and was lacking in every other aspect. Siiiiigh.

>>51275762
Thanks! Gonna have some fun experimenting with this. Eventually.

>>51275784
>She looks so offended
Bummer, I wanted her to look disgusted, suppose that works too, though, like the guy just asked her for some sort of favor *on top* of what she's already doing despite knowing very well who she is.
>more OCs following a theme of either some AI theme, an aspect of this thread or /jp/
Iunno, personally not a fan of this as we already have Tenkai for the AI/thread theme, and for /jp/, well... Sinsacks exist...
>the OCs are gonna inevitably drift towards our gooner tendencies
Can confirm, remember Flower and Shrine Tank-chan? To be fair I was fully aware that those were just one-off designs that weren't even trying to be ZUN-esque, I just want to fuck the tanks. Wait what.
>360 requests lol
Sure, I'll give it a try, though it'll depend on how stubborn Gemini will be.
>I just have been getting my ass kicked by severe demotivation and depression to be in the mood to play it
To be fair you'd also have gotten your ass kicked if you DID play it, albeit it'd be by the AI I suppose. Speaking from experience here. Anyways, was working on a LoRA of another character from there, but I halted it to work on other stuff and haven't resumed work since.
>Rinnosuke and your boring ways
For what it's worth I am enjoying it, I'm just a slow reader.
>a lucky charm if I ever saw one, I think things will be looking up for me from now on so long if I keep a hold of it
You're sounding like a conspiracy theorist right now!

>>51276118
Isn't that kinda gay? His thing's touching... y'know.
>Wonder if she realises
Believe it or not, she's too naive when it comes to that side of things.
>... Are PC98s real 2hus?
LISTEN.
>What did you expect?
Better craftsmanship.
>an "as long as it's fun" type
No, no, Sunny's the "I thought storks carried and delivered them" type.
>Keine-sensei doesn't need remarkable mammaries
She did seem quite self-aware in some of your dialogue...

>>51276219
Actually a really cool idea, forgot she has the whole "able to go to the outside world on a whim" thing going on.
>Use Protection!
She SERIOUSLY needs some down there!

>>51276628
Sure! I'll gladly give it a try, just need to think of a Touhou that'd fit. I'm usually into heavier stuff but those are some really cool instrumentals on that song you shared, always like it when bands use oddball instruments for the genre.

>I'm starting to realise all of you thought I meant
No that IS what I thought you meant, but the issues with the character fitting into the background still persist, and as was pointed out earlier, there's also issues with either doing a pixel-perfect crop of character (just no) or inpainting an imperfect crop, which would be problematic on non-simple backgrounds.
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>>51276630
Forgot your (You), oops.
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>>51276118
>Wriggle's
how did hers get in there
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It's the other PC-98 Stage 1 loser that everyone laughs at and leaves out in the family gatherings!
Maybe if she scores a date with someone, she'll get some love from her mom, granted Shinki isn't busy reminiscing about the good times with Alice, sharing the same few anecdotes to whoever passes by.
Late gift for one ungrateful engineer who can't just appreciate the thought and knowledge of her likes because she thinks you're treating her like a kid. https://litter.catbox.moe/i9byqu.jpeg

>>51273021
The thickness of the juice doesn't add up, it's a conspiracy! This isn't orange juice that's covering my favorite redhead named after a fruit, it's pumpkin juice! The month is ripe for that, just wait until a certain blonde bunny hears about it.
That reminds me, I don't remember whether i've imagined it or not, but I do believe Ringo & Orange have been generated together ITT, and I believe i've seen them together in fanart as well. Is it the pants? The supposed athletic build on a character related to food? Just 2 characters people happen to like? I don't really know, but I'll take more of both.
>>51274396
Did you go into this ministry of hell project actively trying to subvert expectations or do something different? I've noticed all 3 characters are performing acts that are arguably not the first thought that one would have when thinking of them. For the sake of different niches per group, i've always thought as Komachi, Eiki, and Kutaka as boob, ass, and thigh oriented. I may just be putting too much thought into this, as I am one to frequently ignore conventions for my personal preferences, especially if hormones get a stronger say than usual on the matter while prompting.
I could go on another side tangent about the difficulty of Eiki as a character in lewd situation, and how nailing that expression of disdain at one's perversion, mixed with her genuine good nature, and perhaps a hint of either surprise given her inexperience, or pride at a body that is constantly being reminded that it is often modest,
is a task in and of itself.
>>51273938
Stop reminding that I keep slacking off on any form of Medicine gen utilising her poison in one way or another, most likely a poison kiss, with an emphasis on the state of agony whoever on the receiving end may be, perhaps something to do with veins. Truly, this character is either the peak or the end of all degenerates.My otherwise irresistible savior complex almost completely vanishes with Medicine, despite her ticking some of the boxes for it, but at the same time, seeing her thrive and nurture that hatred of hers by offering some of the most wicked, agonising deaths imaginable. I suppose it's some sort of balancing act, given the dozens of Gensokyo ladies I have normal, well meaning thoughts for.
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>>51277211
>That reminds me, I don't remember whether i've imagined it or not, but I do believe Ringo & Orange have been generated together ITT, and I believe i've seen them together in fanart as well. Is it the pants? The supposed athletic build on a character related to food? Just 2 characters people happen to like? I don't really know, but I'll take more of both.
Funny you should say that given it was me, the person you're replying to. As for why, apples and oranges
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>>51276954
Female masturbation; it's fun
>Reminds me of that PoFV-style game that I was ALMOST excited for until I saw the cast had like 50 billion donutsteels and was lacking in every other aspect. Siiiiigh.
You wouldn't believe whose behind Flickerframe Festival
Yeah... look at risk of starting some targeted drama stuff Rain Theory does excellently with the Danmaku, does excellently with the ZUN-style emulation, music's alright but character / OC design is their biggest weakness reeks too much of "westoid lefty hands are behind this" (and this is coming from someone who leans lefty, but has some common sense)
>Bummer, I wanted her to look disgusted
I have trouble reading expressions so I could just suck
>I just want to fuck the tanks. Wait what.
You and me bot- *BLAM*
I was worrying less about design and more about lore, like the idea of making a Fairy OC is all well and good until the idea is she's the fairy embodying masturbation because it's perfectly natural (badum-tsh)
>Anyways, was working on a LoRA of another character from there, but I halted it to work on other stuff and haven't resumed work since.
I'm guessing it's Libra. Honestly I might be biased but the decision to follow the spirit of each faction having a hero unit that's just a sexy pinup model in Red Alert 3 but going with anime waifus instead is what truly made the mod go from great to the greatest heads up I will probably end up asking for something with Yunru in the distant future cause I do rather fancy her
>Isn't that kinda gay? His thing's touching... y'know.
I've given that some thought and I find I can't really decide. I think in a group sex scenario it's somehow less gay because its more impersonal but like if you were fucking someone's girlfriend right after they got creampied it does feel slightly more gay
>Actually a really cool idea, forgot she has the whole "able to go to the outside world on a whim" thing going on.
Rika bribing Yukari to bring her to see Tankfest
>ere's also issues with either doing a pixel-perfect crop of character
whenever I crop things its never pixel-perfect i'm still satisfied with the results though

>>51277211
Oh come on I'd take her
>litter
what a pouty pouter, I'd love a Tamiya tank
>but I do believe Ringo & Orange have been generated together ITT
they're both complete fruits that's why
>Did you go into this ministry of hell project actively trying to subvert expectations or do something different?
I always do enjoy expectation subversion, Kutaka is definitely thigh oriented in my mind though I forgot she has the oral angle as well (throat powers), Eiki to me is pussy rather than ass, it'd be uptight like she is.
Ah you are definitely better at reading expressions than me
>Medicine
I like to imagine her doing a blowing you a kiss while winking gesture but spraying a poison cigarette-esque smoke cloud in the process.
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>>51272996
Being reminded of the existence of boy Wriggle gave me some scenario ideas to request
(the only SFW one)
-Team Nine dressed in mobster suits sitting around discussing the "Wriggle is gay" allegations https://youtu.be/LjvL899WMgA yes I've been rewatching Sopranos clips lately how can you tell
Mystia: "We can't have him in our social club no more, that much I do know."
Daiyousei: ""Social club"? He's gotta GO!"
(NSFW)
-Wriggle facefucking Daiyousei while venting about his situation with Reimu to Cirno and Rumia whose just there watching casually (seriously you decided to make a genderswapped Wriggle and your only two choices were Reimu and her son and not the group people make Wriggle hang out with all the time in doujins)
-Wriggle meeting Eternity Larva getting triggered by like pheremones or something leading to wild on the spot breeding
-the real Wriggle tired of the tarnishment this has done to her reputation growing her hair out and wearing a frilly dress with a skirt and furiously riding a sinsack with crazed insane desperation on her face going "SEE?!! SEE?!? I'M A GIRL *hic* I'LL MAKE A BABY, CAN A BOY DO THAT"

Also its funny how Touhou has so little in the way of male characters we have to make ones up for scenarios but turn one established character into a boy and suddenly there's more ideas to work with
Even then I'd argue characters like "Hakurei-kun" is really just a genderswapped Reimu that exists independently of Reimu in terms of role in these scenarios
Although one must be careful Boyhus are a slippery slope to yaoi, so let's not play with fire no matter how much we like to see Touhou characters getting dicked
Now making Unzan into a girl, that I can get behind
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>>51277200
>hers
Not in this universe! Thanks for reminding me to post the follow-up, though.
https://files.catbox.moe/uzddfn.jpg
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And about that nurse sidejob...
Diagnosis: https://files.catbox.moe/60tsgu.jpg
Ignorance is bliss: https://files.catbox.moe/3dk7jm.jpg

>>>51276566
>Komachi's the one with people coming on her back though
Which is strange, given two usual things.
>I expect Alice would get off her bum and gotten some nipples made by now.
It's because of people like YOU, who can't accept her as she is, that she turned out as she is! Shun!
>Are you saying women aren't into the rough stuff
Nah, I was >implying that on average fewer women are able/willing to provide rough stuff. But ほら、幻想郷だよ. So yeah.
>Nina
That reminds me. I ought to get on making a Nina LORA, since the Anima ckpt I'm on doesn't have her in the training. Fun stuff, here I come...

On this note, for anyone interested, here's a slightly updated version of the dataset editor I posted a bit ago.
+ added a "remove duplicate tags" function
+ makes fewer disk writes (waits for you to stop typing to save)
https://files.catbox.moe/eh80rb.7z

>with my own headcanons that's also incest
So wait, Yukari is Reimu's, what? Mum? Grandma? Wouldn't that make her part-yook?
>Alice
As if Shinki's SUPERIOR GENETICS could be suppressed by something as trivial as magic. Psh.

>>51276954
Uh oh. There it is. She's reaping what she sowed with all those anti-H flip-outs. Women!
>I wanted her to look disgusted
To me, it reads more like a "the shit I do for this job, sigh"-sort of expression. More exhausted than disgusted, with a pinch of resignation, albeit not the kind she really ought to file if they keep making her do stuff like this.
>Isn't that kinda gay?
They're practically hole brothers! Is it gay to pick up after your hole brother?
>Better craftsmanship.
You've been noisy about the craftsmanship of Medi's tits for a while now!
>She did seem quite self-aware
She is that. Aware she's giving her students realistic expectations of rurally-raised Asian women, that is.

>>51277211
Geidontei rolling out the exotic wall art for the occasion, huh. Cute girl, too. How come I've never seen her around town?
>ungrateful engineer who can't just appreciate the thought and knowledge of her likes because she thinks you're treating her like a kid
Are we absolutely sure she's not upset because she already owns a model of this T-34 variant, and your dumb, ignorant arse couldn't tell it's the same one?
>Stop reminding that I keep slacking off on any form of Medicine gen
Stop reminding me that my Medi's farther removed from canon than some of the most egregious doujins out there. Feel obliged to do it right, though.
>My otherwise irresistible savior complex almost completely vanishes with Medicine
Yours and everyone else's, it seems. Isn't it sad, Medi?
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>>51275627
>It's kind of funny that Tenkai is the exact opposite of that and is just comically weak.

>>51277255
>heads up I will probably end up asking for something with Yunru in the distant future cause I do rather fancy her
If you do, you know where to ask.

>>51278533
>a slightly updated version of the dataset editor
Would it be possible to make it work with .jpg as well?
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>>51278640
>Would it be possible to make it work with .jpg as well?
Sure.
https://files.catbox.moe/6blzv8.7z
Just in case:
- it doesn't create txt files by itself, use WD Tagger for that
- Add/Replace/Cleanup only affects selected entries
If you've got ideas for other potentially helpful functions, do feel free to suggest them. I'm adding to this thing as I run into things I'd rather not do by hand, myself.
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I2I'd from https://youtu.be/YySTz55N1NQ?si=eKKUYVUBefTdIkoI&t=474
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>>51276118
The Son of the Miko giving Miko a footjob, he has cute feet & toes!
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>>51277211
I was today days old when I learned that speed dating establishments were a thing.
>Late gift for one ungrateful engineer
She may be ungrateful but I'm not! Thanks!
>she thinks you're treating her like a kid
My Rika would probably get upset at that.
>trying to subvert expectations
Not at all,my thought process was the following: -Shikieiki's very uptight and formal, so I thought she'd be too disgusted by all of this to use her mouth or anything else unless absolutely necessary
-Kutaka's ability is related to throats, so oral seemed like the go-to.
-Komachi's the only one where I sort of agree with you on the expectations bit, but I always imagined her as a curvy girl *everywhere*, not just up-front, so might as well show the back some appreciation too.
>side tangent about the difficulty of Eiki as a character in lewd situation
It is quite entertaining, isn't it? My go-to reasoning is that the Ministry is so low on funds that she's forced into these situations, and is likewise forced to turn a blind eye on these sinners' lustful acts because they're providing financial aid to her organization, even if she's not great at hiding that she despises these acts at a personal level. I guess it's sort of bribery? Also, being self-aware definitely plays a part, I bet she always has "they're definitely not picking me because of my body, is it because I'm the Yama?" in the back of her head.

>>51277255
>it's fun
Iunno, co-op seems better.
>a Fairy OC is all well and good until the idea is she's the fairy embodying masturbation because it's perfectly natural
Yeah, we already have Star as the resident pervert fairy, no need to add onto the pile.
>I'm guessing it's Libra.
Correct, there's already a LoRA of her that I used for one image but it was very lacking in just about every aspect so I'm taking matters into my own hands.
>going with anime waifus
This isn't bias, it's just objectively correct.
>Rika bribing Yukari
Yukari Akiyama?

>>51278530
>it tastes like Shrine Maiden
Apparently smells like it too.

>>51278533
What does the kanji say? Absent? Also, Kutaka's one of those Touhous I always thought about being on the bigger side, something about a mother hen's maternal instincts, etc. Not as big as Komachi of course, but you gotta have SOME chicken breast and chicken leg in there y'know? Eiki-sama has to be surrounded by women that make her feel as miserable as possible on a physical level.
>making a Nina LORA
Mind passing over the dataset once you do? Assuming the tags used are still compatible with SDXL.
>As if Shinki's SUPERIOR GENETICS could be suppressed by something as trivial as magic. Psh.
Fuck you for neuron activation-ing me with this, the moment I read this I got COMPLETELY sidetracked from what I was working on and decided I just had to gen a Shinki.
>anti-H flip-outs
Anti-H?...
>"the shit I do for this job, sigh"-sort of expression.
That's part of the look I wanted to go for so that's good!
>You've been noisy about the craftsmanship of Medi's tits for a while now!
Margatroid...
>Aware she's giving her students realistic expectations of rurally-raised Asian women
What are YOUR Akyuu and Kosuzu meant to be, then? City-slickers?
>T-34 variant
THAT'S NOT A!... Why do I gotta tell you this!? YOU of all people should know!

>>51278721
Great gen and video, I've been "collecting" these MMD channels with english subs so I'll gladly add this one to the list.
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Rant got so long it warranted its own post...

>>51277255
>whose behind Flickerframe Festival
Oh I know it very well. Speaking of, just checked out the steam page for the aforementioned PoFV-styled game and was completely and utterly jumpscared by the second image on the most recent event/announcement. The worst part is I know there'll be people trying to excuse it as "it's a modded character so it's okay!" but they are completely overlooking the fact that they PICKED THAT SPECIFIC CHARACTER to be featured in that screenshot to begin with for a VERY specific reason. I swear this game was a personal monkey paw moment aimed directly at me, I've lost count of the amount of years I've been wishing for a game like this, yet I get one and it's being mismanaged in such a way that I'd feel awful buying it on discount even if it grew to have all of the features I asked for just because any money that these people end up getting only adds to their ego and encourages this behaviour. Ugh why couldn't this have been done by the Japanese... It would seem that they're doubling down on the OCs too, sigh...
I feel like the inclusion of mod support honestly just adds insult to injury, if anything, because it means that they could've easily settled for adding in their donutsteels in the form of mods after the game's launch but instead they're forcing down your throat by including them in the basegame whether you like them or not because their ego is just that big. That, and I bet their reasoning now is "the community has the tools to do all the work and add whatever characters they want now, so we can TRIPLE DOWN on OCs!" Uuuuuuuuuuuugggggggggghhhhhhh.
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>>51278530
Bah knew you couldn't resist
nice detail with the nose dribble there
like the way Rumia's really grabbing on the cape there, it conveys a certain energy I like
>>51278533
Really like the close embrace there, I need to stop being so greedy with requesting for stuff that cuts straight to the action
>Which is strange, given two usual things.
I was referencing the specific continuity
>That reminds me. I ought to get on making a Nina LORA
my my my
>So wait, Yukari is Reimu's, what? Mum? Grandma? Wouldn't that make her part-yook?
Yukari's kid ended up getting hitched with the ancestor of the Hakurei lineage about a thousand years ago against her wishes so she ended up pushing that out of her memory after cutting the guy out of her life. It gave the Hakurei's some extra sturdiness which helped with being Exterminators and it's why Reimu has that mentioned talent / knack for working with and dismantling barriers, the screen teleportation trick she does in IN, her ability to literally phase out of reality, the parallels in their moveset (apparition needle = persuasion needle) and it's to explain why in some of ZUN's miscellaneous art he drew her using gaps (and why she specifically ended up being the one to get the ability to use gaps during ULiL)
After all everyone says Reimu is youkai-like
So basically their encounter in PCB was like a long time family reunion but thanks to the Hakureis not passing down all their knowledge properly and Yukari's trouble remembering stuff that happened centuries ago they had both forgotten that fact but something about those Shrine Maidens feels endearing to Yukari and she just doesn't know why

>>51278721
Heh that's nice, I'm always quite fond of i2is of things like that
sidenote always said I like my lolis less on the JS side and more on the JC and JK side, like Megumin so this Suwako pleases me

>>51278836
Geeze those two could hydrate the entire human village and give them strong bones
I'm normally kind of turned off by the cowprint bikini cliche but this is doing it for me
>speed dating
Sounds too stressful for me, but then again so is regular dating
>Iunno, co-op seems better.
I had fun with the /jp/ 200+ player co-op modded L4D2 sessions, Rika how about you give it a- *Sigma'd*
>no need to add onto the pile.
Exactly
Anyways good to see I called it lol
>chicken breast
I wouldn't have made that nursing sidejob joke if I knew that was how hardly endowed his poultry were
>What are YOUR Akyuu and Kosuzu meant to be, then? City-slickers?
with their fancy Kappa car and their Miyadeguchi loafers (all his girls certainly have a Park Avenue Manicure)
I'm quite enamoured with his designs for those two honestly... want them to myself, hold them tightly, feel that warmth and softness... give me just one day and I'd cure my motivation issues for life and raise the human fertility rate twelvefold
>THAT'S NOT A!... Why do I gotta tell you this!? YOU of all people should know!
to be fair, most slavs were too busy avoiding getting run over by those rather than being the ones driving em to really get a good look
Anyways its a slop tank and not any real model but its definitely feels like its taking inspiration from the Patton line of tanks
>Great gen and video, I've been "collecting" these MMD channels with english subs so I'll gladly add this one to the list.
Same, I put em in my nostalgic videos playlist regardless of how recent they are because MMD is nostalgic by itself.
>>51278640
A true "awawa" expression if ever
>If you do, you know where to ask.
Probably for the better too, I can organize my inevitable bulk orders a bit neater, choose and come up with ideas that I think your style would work best with and also enjoy the extra "freedom of IP" for self indulgent stuff (not gonna push it too far though)
I see your rant and I'll join you in it later, need to get some shopping done
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>>51279020
well first the pic heh, nice
Italian Nina is an idea I'm kinda open to, the accent, maybe dropping some sweet words here and there in the language, gives her access to the full range of Italian jokes to put her in more situations, seafood pasta, spaghetti alle vongole https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/10739140. Hmm I'm very open to it actually
also I just realised I started getting youtube clips from the Sopranos inccessantly recommended to me ever since I picked up that coin, a sign?
...Italian-American Nina would also be really funny
Wait a second her final spellcard is literally named after one of the Nostradamus prophecies https://youtu.be/rmhVw6q-KOA?t=66

I got so fucking sidetracked holy shit
>jumpscared by the second image on the most recent event/announcement.
Oh boy what is it no-AAAAAAAAAAA
>The worst part is I know there'll be people trying to excuse it as "it's a modded character so it's okay!" but they are completely overlooking the fact that they PICKED THAT SPECIFIC CHARACTER to be featured in that screenshot to begin with for a VERY specific reason.
I know right! If you want to show off mod support you could maybe pick something with more appeal to spark people's imagination for making their own mods rather than signalling your "personal affiliations"
Some stuff isn't for everyone, you gotta learn to keep it to yourself. Though that's just it isn't it, they know it isn't for everyone they want to filter people so that only "the right people" are engaging with it

>I've lost count of the amount of years I've been wishing for a game like this, yet I get one and it's being mismanaged [-] because any money that these people end up getting only adds to their ego and encourages this behaviour.
Same man, closest I found was Arcadian Colosseum which is a roblox game of all things https://youtu.be/D-Fd7lYNLW4
Worst part is its technical quality alone guarantees it'll have a little success so they'll be encouraged to keep doing this unless every single review is like "the game is great but the OCs suck lol"

>It would seem that they're doubling down on the OCs too, sigh...
I wouldn't be surprised if they're doing so because they got some flak for Flickerframe Festival and they're adopting what I call the "double down filter strat" where you decide to emphasise aspects people criticised because 1.) you just love the idea of "scaring off the haters" (a bit like how you get /pol/tards so obsessed with "triggering the libs" they see any reasonable criticism of their obsessive behaviour as "just another salty lib getting triggered, heh I'm winning so hard in this imaginary world I'm making") and 2.) you want to make sure the only people who'll interact in your "new better community" are people who just put up with (or worse are into) that kind of thing, effectively just making an echo chamber
Funny part is like these aren't even mostly *their* OCs they're Kaisendo's OCs from specifically Hollow Song of Birds which does bring me to a disagreement point
>Ugh why couldn't this have been done by the Japanese
It's being half-done by the Japanese actually, Kaisendo is a japanese circle they're working together on it. I think the issue is more the artists adapting the Hollow Song of Birds characters cause the old General Set looked more like a Touhou character in HSoB than here

>I feel like the inclusion of mod support honestly just adds insult to injury, if anything, because it means that they could've easily settled for adding in their donutsteels in the form of mods after the game's launch but instead they're forcing down your throat by including them in the basegame whether you like them or not because their ego is just that big.
Exactly! Jesus, like I know with Touhou fangames you need a small amount of OCs to fill out the cast but this is a PoFV-like, those are literally the games that mostly reuse characters from across the series (PoDD not withstanding but that's cause the series was still new at the time)

y'know I went on a rant in a thread a long time ago about how I notice the Touhou community seems to have an issue where you have some fans who are fans of the actual games and setting, take the time to read the printworks and seek out ZUN's interview statements for more info. The kind who appreciate the spellcards and will take the time to study the sprites for an hour to get all the sweet character info they can from them.
and then you have the fans who are more fans of the vast amount of derivative works of Touhou and "the community" than Touhou itself, the people who take being part of "the fandom" more as their interest than being "a fan". the kind of people who might even overlook the mainline series as simply being the "boring base" the "better fandom" was built off of
I can't help but notice both Flickerframe and this game mostly reuse characters from older fangames which might tell me they're category B.
Jesus hitting word limit I'm somad
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>>51279240 (me)
I mean look
We're AIfags. What we enjoy isn't something the majority of people find appealing either, before people start accusing us of throwing stones. But Tenkai and Hakurei-Kun are definitely not making it into a monetized fangame on fucking Steam (and it's funny I got like only two characters I can name cause we don't make enough qualifiable OCs)
and even if we did put in the effort to gather our powers together to create a Touhou fangame we're definitely keeping the final product completely clean of all slop or unTouhou-like NSFW writing cause we got enough common sense to know that isn't going to fly
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Gens?
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>>51279411
i eated them all
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>>51272996
nina having sex with alex jones
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Throwing my own cent on the Zeitgeist fangame and relative disappointment in regards to its cast, the amount of OCs,
I think OC culture is definitely something that is much more prominent in the western parts of the fandom rather than the eastern one. Throwing my hat in the ring, despite the whole appeal of Touhou being the freedom to create with it, there may be a stronger innate desire to be recognised for your creations, something that appears harder in a meritocratic (in its own ways, and full of exceptions if you know the right people, mostly for the eastern side) franchise. Said character can also act as a vessel for the creator's intentions, although I struggle to believe western Touhou fans, of all people, have such restraints that they don't dare touch the looser, less established characters and fleshing them out to fit whatever narrative you wish to say, out of respect for ZUN. It may, again, be that feeling that the creation isn't 100% their own that may be bothering them.

Touhou as a cultural phenomenon is, whether you like it or not, growing with the times, and that implies the way people go on about consuming it, which is very much related to the way the Internet itself has evolved. More secular, more homely on the surface, yet more insidiously hostile and at the mercy of the whims of human nature, given the amount of time we spend on it. Any home needs a history, a narrative, some bumps along the road. Someone will create adversaries, others will fearmonger. Let this new home shape you for too long and with nothing else to balance it, and your own identity will be at stake, until you're nothing but you're a pit of knowledge, yet a stranger to all, lost in your hallucinations.

Anyway, all of that just to say that the Touhou community stands more divided than ever, although I wouldn't go as far as to say there is much hostility, unless it is brought up, usually just for the sake of outrage baiting. Newcomers are taking on their own path and may end up focusing on one part while neglecting the others. Coincidentally, I haven't seen a guide on how to consume Touhou in its entirety since the Mid 2010s. There isn't as much malice about such decisions as certain people would lead you to believe, rather, just blissful ignorance, and contentment at what is inarguably a behemoth of a franchise. I can see it reflected while I browse for images on social media (less so since the death of Nitter, but still). There are artists that draw 1st generation girls and not much else, there are artists that draw new characters and not much else, and their feed and retweets are a reflection of their own interests, more than support for artists that they've made acquaintances with, or rather, these acquaintances happen to be over a shared interest for a specific generation of characters.

Along with the popularity poll as a constant reminder, needless to say, if you wish for variety in fangames or doujins, you should temper your expectations, but still act respectful towards promising projects that happen to have gone for more conventional picks. The matter of your creations being witnessed by more people is also something that's hard to wrestle with. I recall notorious Nemuno lover @prtn_chan having a bit of a depression over how, despite his best efforts, he never felt like he managed to get more eyes on Nemuno as he wished. The views of whichever platform you post on consistently reminding you of what some would describe as self sabotage is not a pleasant sight. You can see it with some of our posters like Chiyanon, with two of his latest works that I would say are on the same level of lewdness (/e/ tier), with an emphasis on breasts, but one's with Ariya, and the other's with Yukari. The end results: 1.8K vs 1.2K views.

It's a complicated subject, and i've ranted enough as is. Here's a big Larva/Tokoyo God while we're on the subject on OCs (or borderline OCs), and while I do use the LW design for convenience, I must insist that similar designs and even a doujin as early as 2019. I've been enamored by the concept, and the story of the cult of the Tokoyo God ever since Larva's reveal. I think there's a lot of potential to be had even if we to consider a false God route, given the importance of faith to Gensokyo.
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>>51279612
>The views of whichever platform you post on consistently reminding you of what some would describe as self sabotage
It IS self-sabotage in that, by setting out to shift the public perception, you enable your own game's lose condition. Unless you are already a creator with a vast (some might venture over-)reach, to believe you can personally carrot-on-a-stick a fanbase as large and scattered as Touhou's is, in a generous term, unrealistic. Michiking may have infected many with terminal shotacon, but Michiking had already been plenty popular before his own infestation took hold. He had pull before he pushed.

The very best thing you can do as a small-time creator is to stick to your guns, do your own thing, keep your passion well fed - and let others be attracted to the surfeit naturally. Those who would partake, will. Those who wouldn't have, won't. You can lead them to water. You can't make them drink. And, come on. So your favourite character is unpopular. So what? Are you into them for their popularity or their, yanno, them? Not like you run a risk of them getting skipped over by the creator if they fall off on the polls - because ZUN will forget 'em anyway, lmao.
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>>51279612
>I think OC culture is definitely something that is much more prominent in the western parts of the fandom rather than the eastern one. Throwing my hat in the ring, despite the whole appeal of Touhou being the freedom to create with it, there may be a stronger innate desire to be recognised for your creations, something that appears harder in a meritocratic franchise. Said character can also act as a vessel for the creator's intentions
>It may, again, be that feeling that the creation isn't 100% their own that may be bothering them.
Nailed it on the head I think
So it comes down to an ego thing really, I get it, I really do. I got my own issues with ego
But personally I just think to myself if you really want to go that route, Len'en shows you a perfect path forward for such a project.

>Coincidentally, I haven't seen a guide on how to consume Touhou in its entirety since the Mid 2010s.
The channel GensouChronicle did a guide in 2022 https://youtu.be/icSAIb_k7Is
Fun fact this is the same channel I found out about that Tengu Cap and Rank System tidbit from this vid https://youtu.be/9IRLwNQY3aE
he did a pretty fascinating essay comparing Touhou's worldbuilding to JRR Tolkien's (I'm not kidding)

I'm not quite sure I follow exactly what you're saying but I will say having gotten that rant out of my system and having calmed down a bit, that was easily the most spergiest moment of my entire life lol.
I want to like these types of projects. I mean I want more high quality Touhou fangames in general and they clearly have some talented people at work with the actual programming, visual design, game design, music and I have a soft-spot for indie teams that really go out with the professional presentation for devlogs (same news post with the jumpscare OC that set us off gives some really indepth, cleanly organized patch notes alongside a neat showcase video of the updates). In all honesty I do have some lefty leanings in the sense that I actually don't really mind if you want some chocolate flavoured lolis for a change, I like to try new things
but... ugh I just can't get behind these designs at all, I'm tempted to lay the blame squarely at the character illustrators and give the rest of the team a pass but a team ought to have some accountability and quality control going on internally and I still stand by my points, they're valid

I want the western community to really step up and carry our share of the weight the eastern side has been doing for years, I didn't think it was really possible until ADiA came out (reading this article in particular was quite inspiring https://en.touhougarakuta.com/article/touhou-artificial-dream-in-arcadia-interview/ ). But now that I know it can be done, I want to see a massive creative push to achieve a quality parity with the eastern community

>Big Larva
she's absolutely stunning, then again so are a lot of your nighttime gens
>I've been enamored by the concept, and the story of the cult of the Tokoyo God ever since Larva's reveal. I think there's a lot of potential to be had even if we to consider a false God route, given the importance of faith to Gensokyo.
I find it also quite interesting but it feels like ZUN just went and repeated the Ex-Rumia thing again making a cool idea that will never get any payoff (I swear if Ex-Rumia shows up in th21 after this I'll eat a delicious homecooked meal)
Still though I love the Ex-Rumia thing so I also quite like Larva's potential
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>>51279612
Cute Larva. I want to have sex with Larva and make this the age of the fairies.
>false God
Does that concept even make sense within Japanese cosmology? Gods are everywhere and plentiful, with their nature being able to be of any kind, not really distinguished by good or evil or anything, with many of them showing significant overlap.
Especially in Touhou, with gods like Kanako and Okina clearly being very questionable figures, and given that Kawakatsu worked with Prince Shotoku, who in Touhou outright admits to just use Buddhism to unify the nation and firmly establish central authority in the Imperial Court (until it got highjacked by the Fujiwara abusing the regent positions, or the Shogun seizing power and then losing control to his own regent, etc.), then Okina's opposition to the Tokoyo cult is far more likely them being perceived as a threat to the authority of the Emperor than a spiritual threat to the people.
Besides, they're just peasants. Their job is to produce rice to serve their betters and should know their place and not come up with faggy new religions of equality and happiness.
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>>51276628
Here you go anon, couldn't really think of a 2hu that fit based on the album name and track list, so I just went with Yuyuko because of all of the pink, white and blue on it, plus the fact that the off-shoulder dress (?) she has around her arm reminded me of Yuyuko's kimono and the rose on her hand reminded me of cherry blossoms, hope you like it.

>>51279115
>I like my lolis less on the JS side and more on the JC and JK side
Same here, but I think at that point it stops being loli and starts to fall under petite and/or underdeveloped up there.
>the entire human village
One of them could hydrate an entire dimension, as it turns out.
>give me just one day and I'd cure my motivation issues for life and raise the human fertility rate twelvefold
Akyuu is not gonna read this, bro.
>(not gonna push it too far though)
In the cases of IPs I like I don't mind, so don't worry about it.

And I thought my rant was long... I sort of just wanted to get my discontent out of my system there and rant into the void a little because of how much of a "the monkey paw curls" situation this felt like for me, I wasn't trying to derail the thread this hard, oops.
Well at the end of the day, if there's a gen attached to the walls of text, it shouldn't be that bad...

>>51279240
I was actually thinking about the same exact thing while working on that Nina gen too, an Italian accent with the occasional Italian word thrown in there would both fit her and be very cute. This is my new headcanon.
>I started getting youtube clips from the Sopranos inccessantly recommended to me
Not the Sopranos, but you reminded me of this Goodfellas comic I saw on Danbooru with Rika in it: https://danbooru.donmai.us/pools/31360

I'll try to keep it brief and say I agree with pretty much all you said on your rant (though I guess that's because most of it is you, in part, agreeing with me). Guess I should clarify that when I said "done by the Japanes" I more-so meant that I wish the person in charge of the project was Japanese, I don't think it would've been this mismanaged otherwise. I know they got the HSoB team, but their inclusion feels more-so like an allowance of collab assets than one of decisive power.

>>51279612
Nice Larva, agreed on the Tokoyo no Kami stuff as well, always thought Japan's regional gods were very interesting, though in my case Hisona's works made me far more interested in Niwatarijin and even to some extent Ame-no-Sagume than Tokoyo no Kami. I don't think big Larva really qualifies as an OC, she's more-so an aged up/EX/powered up verison, akin to EX Rumia or even Advent Cirno (does anybody here even remember Advent Cirno?...)
I agree with your rant as well though I can't help but feel like you got a little sidetracked and started to dive more into popular vs unpopular characters rather than the whole OC thing, unless I missed the point. Anyways, I do find it pretty frustrating when an artist/developer team resorts to the same old oversaturated cast, but at the same time I know they're oversaturated for a reason, and I've grown so used to it that my frustration is more-so one of disappointment than one of anger. I do wish things were different, but I'm not beating myself (or others) up over it.
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>>51281983
This is one of my favorite records of all time.
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>>51276628
Sugoi taste, my nigga. Now let's do 'For Your Pleasure.'
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>>51278836
Something something spoilt milk, but for real, whose hand is that in the middle?!
>What does the kanji say?
Mu. You know, the cliché one.
>Mind passing over the dataset once you do?
Here it is: https://files.catbox.moe/8vxwxp.7z
Captions are tag only and include shell_hair_ornament + other costume hallmarks, since leaving them out of the training would subsequently make the model replace them with a default, say, shell_hair_ornament if you happened to tag it in gen. This has the side effect of these elements generally NOT appearing with the character tag on its own. Up to you if it's a bug or a feature. An easy search+replace, anyway.
Speaking of, slightly spruced up editor: https://files.catbox.moe/4bzq0z.7z
+ some bug fixes
+ deleting files straight from the webui
+ rudimentary tag grouper/sorter
>Anti-H?...
Yeah! Granted, those were provoked for the most part by him getting too close to OTHER girls, but yanno. Pavlovian response.
>What are YOUR Akyuu and Kosuzu meant to be, then? City-slickers?
Touched by the unnatural, obviously. Why do you reckon both remain single even with all the (pairs of) things considered?
>Why do I gotta tell you this!? YOU of all people should know!
Well excuUuUse me, grease princess!

>>51279115
>stuff that cuts straight to the action
And here I'd thought I ought to make more of that, as opposed to foreplay only.
>something about those Shrine Maidens feels endearing to Yukari and she just doesn't know why
I mean, in the first place they are keeping her pet (super)nature preserve running. That might warrant attachment even from a youkai-like youkai.

>>51279612
Green lips? I am activated. And there's that ubiquitous pantyhose...
>Ariya views
To tack onto what I said above. Shocked she got even that many, to be frank. But then, suppose I'm blessed not to care about that sort of thing beyond the incurable number-go-up Diablobrain. Think my Chiyarae are some of the least viewed uploads, actually. Oh no?
>Larva LW design
If it's the one I've caught glimpses of, it really makes her look like a certain cake. Throws me the hell off. Why's that game like this...?

>>51281983
Ah. I get it. Those frills. That's clever.
>Yuyu Music
What's that sound like? OM NOM NOM, OINK OINK, YOUMUUU~?
>EX Rumia
One of the early fandom's sillier artifacts.
>does anybody here even remember Advent Cirno?...
Unfortunately. Advent Cirno, Achi Cirno, weed Cirno... Come to think of it, were the seeds of gacha alts already sown, even back then...?
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>>51281511
>Does that concept even make sense within Japanese cosmology?
No not really, honestly feels like anything if you worship it can become a god.
Funny you bring up Kanako because she's an example of a former human turned god (divine spirit)
>"She corresponds with the class of divine spirits. Because of this, it is believed she used to be some form of human long ago, but their identity, or even whether they were an individual or a group, is no longer determinable."
(Source Symposium of Post-Mysticism)
the "whether they were an individual or a group" part is interesting because it implies a group of people can become a single god
Honestly its not so much that Tokoyo-no-Kami was a "false" god it was just really concerning how people were behaving towards it. Like they were being hypnotised by the caterpillar and doing self-destructive things for it

>>51281983
Well I certainly like it, she's not exactly naked but this is the hottest Yuyu i've seen in a while
>Same here, but I think at that point it stops being loli and starts to fall under petite and/or underdeveloped up there.
Yeah I think so too, think I was just thinking of the underaged physique aspect of the term
>Akyuu is not gonna read this, bro.
Kosuzu's the one with the ability to read everything
>And I thought my rant was long...
Yeah I was worried about derailment too, I just feel very passionate about the topic of Touhou OCs so that's why it was long (^ ^;)
>I was actually thinking about the same exact thing while working on that Nina gen too, an Italian accent with the occasional Italian word thrown in there would both fit her and be very cute. This is my new headcanon.
Problem is well okay first problem is I don't know much Italian so I'm gonna have to brush up on it (apparently Italians use besides amore the words tesoro and caro for your lover) but the second issue is that I'm now finding I can't decide between cute natural italian accent (like what a real italian girl would sound like), Italian-American / mobster "Eyy fuggedabbout it" accent or my old headcanon of her having a Southern accent (fits way too well with the conspiracy theory aspect of her)
Eh i'll just accept all of them and cycle between them depending on how I'm feeling in the moment. I mean does anyone else have multiple voice ideas for a character like that?
Well regardless I've now got three angles to work with for Nina when it comes to scenarios (Being a conspiracy theorist, Aphrodite / Goddess of Love thing + being Italian)
>(does anybody here even remember Advent Cirno?...)
I never forgot https://youtu.be/6ztshEVV_qA
Also yeah those are more like AU characters not OCs. The O part of OC answers the defining criteria

>>51282094
I'm surprised she's getting action with pick-up lines like that
Very hot, I love prone bone face in the pillow stuff along with girls with their pants / skirts not pulled completely down. (and also the breeding aspect)
I know enough about the rules of Waifudom to know my specific head tulpa of Nina is a distinct entity from all Ninas so I can take it easy but I will spend a whole day just to crop or edit him out of the frame in every pic (including this one) cause I find Rinnosuke to be the world's most unappealing man
>Touched by the unnatural, obviously. Why do you reckon both remain single even with all the (pairs of) things considered?
Coulda sworn I saw a ring on Akyuu in a couple of your gens... hey wait a sec! Was she just pretending knowing it'd get Hakurei-kun more interested? (cause that's actually a funny idea)
>And here I'd thought I ought to make more of that, as opposed to foreplay only.
I was talking more about what I keep requesting, need to moderate myself learn to be satisfied with the foreplay more, its like mindfulness very buddhist. (I also want to train my creativity up a bit) In your case I guess the advice would be you need to let loose https://youtu.be/Yc0TKzwSo0w?t=40
>I mean, in the first place they are keeping her pet (super)nature preserve running.
Oh I know and that's probably the canon explanation, this is fun headcanonings where you can do whatever you want
>Green lips? I am activated.
I'm feeling strangely larval the past few weeks, (must be the powers of Tokoyo-no-Kami) so I'd say go for a Larva gen if you want.
Y'know she lives in the Garden of the Sun maybe after they chat she can tag along and come over to Muugenkan. Nephew-kun's preferences are probably on the older side but maybe he'd like the change for a bit
>One of the early fandom's sillier artifacts.
I was always a fan of it (then again I'm the self-admitted IM reader) but I always liked the edgy edgy kinds of things
>Unfortunately. Advent Cirno, Achi Cirno, weed Cirno... Come to think of it, were the seeds of gacha alts already sown, even back then...?
Really they're a return to tradition
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>>51273415
So she's experiencing the 3rd impact. I need a crossover of 2hu and nge
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>>51282972
ZUN actually drew Rei once so therefore it's okay to gen Rei and only Rei in this thread (though it has to be Rei in a red plugsuit apparently)
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>>51272996
mokou AND sumireko pregnancy
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>>51273009
I've seen like two wedding dress posts, one was Sagume the other was Misumaru.
Cute wedding posts would be nice, plus it's free pandering
>>51273565
I'm a fan of both bushes and shaved girls although the act of shaving is probably not so appealing. I could see this simplified down as one pic of a nude hairless Kagerou looking at her body in a mirror proudly (maybe with a razor in hand) and then an alt version of the same pic where she has body hair looking distraught saying that with a notable full moon in the background
>>51275626
I've asked for that too, still waiting on it. I get people maybe not being too enthused by them
I'm thinking of compiling together a special seasonal request list (get the other Autumn connected characters in on the fun too) for the next thread cause it'll be October by then and I'll need to act fast before Halloween overshadows the Akis time in the spotlight!
Maybe people just need more of a spark of inspiration for what to do with those two so more detailed scenarios
>>51284504
Normally pregnant belly stuff is outside my range of tastes and also the tastes of the sloppas in this thread but y'know I'm picturing some scenarios I could like. Like Sumireko and Mokou sitting on a bench next to someone with their arms around them or something more comedy focused like Sumireko waking up in bed pregnant and wondering how the hell did sloppy unprotected sex in Gensokyo make her actual body pregnant meanwhile Mokou is casually squaring up to fight Kaguya whose like "Mokou. I'm not gonna fight a pregnant woman. What the fuck."
I've said before Mokou is weirdly one character I think would have the highest likelyhood of becoming a mother, I think she'd find something about raising someone else to have a full natural life to be therapeutic in a vicarious sense

I feel bad whenever I notice people tossing out requests that get ignored, especially since I see complaints about it but I feel like the issue is you gotta put more into it than just a single sentence to get interest, argue your case in a sense, show some passion to spark passion.
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Deja-vu, I have genned this hag before.

>>51281990
Glad you like it anon!

>>51281992
Could be interesting, I'll see if the colors don't make it too difficult to work with.

>>51282094
Thanks for reminding me I have a whole Sumireko project that I just abandoned... oops.
Also, nice job with Rinnosuke's dialogue, it's oddly in-character despite the lewd scenario.
>whose hand is that in the middle?!
What are you-WOAH! Good catch!
>This has the side effect of these elements generally NOT appearing with the character tag on its own.
Definitely a feature in my books so I appreciate it. Also cheers for the editor, I'm guessing your usual workflow with this thing is get the common tags out of the way first and then work your way down until you reach the single-image ones?
>Yeah!
No I meant to ask what the H stood for but I think it just dawned on me that it meant Hakurei? I'd imagine he's probably unbothered by the Hakurei rants by now though...
>Why do you reckon both remain single
Well Hakurei's nobility so she's got that whole "out of my league" aura surrounding her. Kosuzu is... well, a dork. And probably only into kitsune shotas.
>Think my Chiyarae are some of the least viewed uploads, actually.
Y'know it COULD have a thing or two to do with the quality of the game she's from. And don't "you're one to speak" me, that's the NINETEENTH game in the franchise! Technically 32nd!
>What's that sound like?
Close enough: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fiaf796kieI

>>51282971
>this is the hottest Yuyu i've seen in a while
To be fair it's been a *very* long time since I genned Yuyuko. Yes, I know others did. That's a part of the joke.
>Kosuzu's the one with the ability to read everything
If Kosuzu browsed 4chan it'd be DISASTROUS, imagine the things she'd start spouting around the village.
>(apparently Italians use besides amore the words tesoro and caro for your lover)
Never too late to learn. Either way, tesoro means treasure, which I guess is pretty specific, but caro just means dear, which is also commonplace in english. Guessing you know what amore means already.
>I can't decide
How's a higher-pitched Tonio Trussardi sound?
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Silent treatment: https://files.catbox.moe/tll531.jpg

>>51282971
>I'm surprised she's getting action with pick-up lines like that
Likely less that and more Sumizoomi triggering his instincts. Feels like every youkai in Gensokyo wanted a piece of that at some point. In a manner of speaking.
>I will spend a whole day just to crop or edit
See, if you'd invested in an image gen setup, you could spend a whole day inpainting these things instead. :^)
>Was she just pretending
It'll sound like I'm pulling it out of an orifice, but that actually was an element in some of my LLM RPs, back when those still titillated. Albeit, in that scenario, it was more of a deterrent turning around to bite.
>this is fun headcanonings where you can do whatever you want
Oh, right, outlandish stuff like Soga no Tojiko being the ghost of an IRL Soga woman called Tojiko from the same time period, right?
Nah, I get it, though. Wrote a story wherein Yukari was forced to beget a Hakurei myself, an aeon ago. Imagine it's not that wild of an extrapolation.

>>51285229
>don't answer magic
Stew. Heard that consuming a hag's cast-offs grants an extra ability score. I'm THIS close to reducing my WIS roll penalty.
>guessing your usual workflow with this thing is get the common tags out of the way first and then work your way down
I eventually fell into this order:
1) WD Tagger for a decent starting point.
2) Check for the core target concept/tags to be added to the whole dataset. For example, for my style LORA, WD Tagger labelled some images with bright_pupils, but white_pupils is what I actually use and needed to hijack. Or, for Nina, not every picture ended up with white_dress, and nearly none did with shell_hair_ornament. Select all, add tag, search and replace.
3) Train a preliminary LORA with a laconic preview prompt to see what "leaks." Tag if it's undesirable. For instance, first version of Nina sprouted frills all over regardless of the generic outfit being genned. Similarly, the very first style LORA bake put half_closed_eyes on everybody unprompted.
In very brief, if it's something you want tied inextricably to the trigger word, leave it out. If it's something you want to be able to control/exclude/replace the base model's understanding of when the LORA's loaded, tag it.
4) Search for and unify generic concepts like clothing terminology, body type, colours. The editor's content filter was made expressly for this part.
4.5) Keep an eye out for stray tags from WD Tagger. They crop up occasionally. One Nina got tagged as a VTuber...
5) Off to real training.

Training itself's been dead simple with Anima-TrainFlow. 32rank, learning rate 1.0, Prodigy optimiser, gradient 1, batch 1. Save every 300 steps. Once baked, take it to Forge and do an XYZ plot with a full-ish prompt for a more direct comparison. Hasn't failed me yet, except where I'd undercooked the dataset or overcooked the training steps.

>No I meant to ask what the H stood
Can't tell whether you're acting the dense anime protagonist or need to hand in your weeb card... H! Ecchi!
>Y'know it COULD have a thing or two to do with the quality of the game she's from.
Game...?
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Also, bonus Nina, since I needed to do a full proportions test of the LORA anyway.
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>>51285229
Yeah I mean see, there's a bit of a twitch down there but fact is I mean it when I say I don't really see Mima like that
>Also, nice job with Rinnosuke's dialogue, it's oddly in-character despite the lewd scenario.
Yeah that's for certain, I don't dislike Rinnosuke as a character (infact he's a fun one) but I'd literally prefer anyone else in porn scenarios
>Well Hakurei's nobility so she's got that whole "out of my league" aura surrounding her. Kosuzu is... well, a dork. And probably only into kitsune shotas.
I think you meant to say Akyuu (I get it if the arch enemy of your waifu is on your mind)
I feel like so many villagers would be nervous about getting with Akyuu, I mean that's someone with 8 incarnations worth of experience and it's vitally important she have healthy good offspring to continue her lineage so you could easily talk yourself out of it as not worthy enough. Then again I've seen a lot of fanworks go the route of the rest of the Hieda family live life like usual and Akyuu just respawns in one of their kids when the time is right instead of her own direct descendant
As for Kosuzu as much as this phrase would anger a lot of people does feel like she has the risk to become a "built for BYC" type of girl. Reimu and Akyuu need to help guide her on the right path...
>If Kosuzu browsed 4chan it'd be DISASTROUS
She starts greentexting and Reimu assumes she's gone and gotten herself possessed by another Youma book
Also Nina is someone who canonically has been dipped in internet slop and has a database of (questionable) information downloaded so she probably does have 4chan rattling around in there to make things worse (especially /x/) I'm lucky /pol/tards aren't actual Touhou fans cause Nina would have gotten the Momiji treatment already and I don't need shmuckleheads telling me my waifu is a hate symbol, SHE'S A LOVE SYMBOL!!!
>Either way, tesoro means treasure, which I guess is pretty specific, but caro just means dear
It's all words that require a "mi" beforehand "mi amore", "mi tesoro", "mi caro". Calling someone "my treasure" only sounds awkward in english, though I guess calling someone "lovegem" would be worse
>Guessing you know what amore means already
I had a good teacher https://youtu.be/ttAPokIf7us
>How's a higher-pitched Tonio Trussardi sound?
That just falls under the range of "natural italian accent"
I already have specific voices in mind but it's specifically the accent I can't decide on between the three I mentioned, so I think I'll alternate (southern Nina definitely would have freckles though)
Also I didn't say it but I was thinking to myself "man Jojo has a lot of Italians throughout it's run even ignoring the entire Part taking place in Italy, so I have a feeling a lot of these will be jojokes"
I was gonna say "would her stand be called Pearl Jam" only to remember that's Tonio's fucking stand lol

>>51285310
Oh come on you left out the one I specifically like, you dang dirty troll
D-Dammit it's really hot too, the dialogue's perfect... I'm gonna have to...
>Feels like every youkai in Gensokyo wanted a piece of that at some point. In a manner of speaking.
Outsiders are freegame for whatever a Youkai would be pleased to do although all the characters in ULiL were more like "Outsideo piggu go home!" so once again, don't know how she's getting action like that
>See, if you'd invested in an image gen setup, you could spend a whole day inpainting these things instead. :^)
I mean I'd love to, but I barely make enough money to make it through the month
>that actually was an element in some of my LLM RPs, back when those still titillated. Albeit, in that scenario, it was more of a deterrent turning around to bite.
I mean I figured, I think you're the only one whose said you like cheating stuff but just don't like the more classic NTR scenarios (and you've gone and given me the bug too) though now I'm wondering why LLM RP Akyuu and Head Akyuu are different in that specific sense (would be the last one to ever be saying a man can't have multiple Gensokyos running around in his head)
>Nah, I get it, though. Wrote a story an aeon ago. Imagine it's not that wild of an extrapolation.
Well see there you go
>>51285314
and looking quite stunning, I see she's subscribed to the theory that wearing a bra causes breast cancer or something like that
I'm liking the sort of muted shade of blonde that came out for this pic, guessing its desaturation at work on her already not so blonde blonde
Yellow nails work good on her though speaking of yellow I'd be remiss to not mention her head clam has yellow eyes not white (unless it changes colour based on her mood?)
Such pretty eyelashes
Fun fact: the way Nina wears her dress folded (right side over left) is the folding used for dead people implying resurrected fossil youkai are a type of undead

I dunno think you might need to give the LORA a lot more stress tests, to be certain ;)
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>>51285444
>Yeah I mean see, there's a bit of a twitch down there but fact is I mean it when I say I don't really see Mima like that
Rude.
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>>51285444
>It's all words that require a "mi" beforehand "mi amore", "mi tesoro", "mi caro". Calling someone "my treasure" only sounds awkward in english
nah it actually sounds awkward in italian too, they can be used in place of the person's name so they don't need the possessive. i think the use of "mi" is a mash of "my" and "mio" to bridge the words from different languages? but it's an italian-american thing, not an actual italian word
you can also shorten tesoro and amore to teso' (this can also be used between friends, especially between girls) and amo' (can be used for friends too if you're a trendy northern italian girl OR from rome) when using the whole word is too much effort
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>>51285717
good to know, yeah I bet you can tell my knowledge of anything Italian comes entirely from Mafia TV shows, movies and WW2 documentaries lol
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>>51285951
yeah saying "mio caro" or "amore mio" gives a theatrical feeling, like you're being dramatic or ironic
it's not wrong, you can use it but isn't necessary
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>>51285229
>Could be interesting, I'll see if the colors don't make it too difficult to work with
You're doing glam's good work.
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>>51285314
On this topic, I put that Nina dataset to good use and trained a LoRA using the same method I used for my first one (adjusted for the increased image count of 40 vs 25). In a vacuum I'd say it went well because the character IS very distinctly Nina but unfortunately I can't really look at it that way because I do already have access to another Nina LoRA so here's what I noticed when comparing the two, sort of wondering if you also had any of these issues so that way we can bounce feedback off of eachother here:
-The very first thing I noticed was that everything was... darker? It always felt like my Nina was being genned at sunset/in the shade, regardless of background or tagging. The overall colors were off too, it felt like my style was being messed with and everything had a higher contrast, in addition to being darker. I get that Nina would probably have a thing or two against glowies but this might be a bit much.
-When it comes to Nina herself, the new LoRA kept missing the mark when it came to her bangs and insisted on genning her with hair_between_eyes. Adding that tag to the negatives somewhat helped, but it was still happening every once in a while. This is something that almost never really happened with the old LoRA unless I dropped its intensity, I didn't even have to tag for or against it.
-The dress length kept being way too short, could be a bonus for some, though, but I found myself having to tag long_dress if I wanted to get a closer outfit to her ingame one and, again, it didn't always work. I also dislike tagging long_dress in general because more often than not it feels like the tag "extends" the character's legs and makes them taller than they should be.
+The frills though are WAY better, the old LoRA sometimes spread a bit randomly throughout her dress and most importantly wasn't as good with their colors, but in this new one they make sense and are much more colorful while also spreading the colors properly throughout her outfit (purple at the top, etc).
+The shell hair ornament is also way better, again it felt sort of random with the old LoRA but here it always looks distinctly like Nina's shell ornament (half-open with a black void inbetween in the gap, with sometimes yellow dots for eyes). Go to literally any older Nina gen of mine and you'll see that the shell in those is either closed or has weird green lighting and random green orbs inside of it.
+Her eyes were actually yellow and not a weird orange with a purple gradient I'd sometimes get.

I think, overall, I prefer the old LoRA purely because of the style issues, wondering if it's just bad training on my part. Picrel is one of the better examples but here are a few random raw T2I gens that better highlight the issues I was having: https://pastebin.com/QiLQD3QE

Also on a slightly unrelated sidenote, the dataset tool you have is great. Since you're on Comfy I'm assuming you have a built-in local WD Tagger, I tried looking it up though to see if there was a standalone local version of it or anything like that and couldn't find any that didn't require me installing stuff like Comfy or Kohya, though, but maybe I just didn't look well enough. I used the Web Demo before, you reckon it's good enough?
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Actually here's something that I think illustrates it perfectly, this is the "character prompt" image I keep around for that old Nina LoRA. No style, pose or background related tags. Just metadata related to her character: https://files.catbox.moe/2wsowg.png
And here's the new LoRA with the same seed (but different tags in accordance to how she was trained): https://files.catbox.moe/9bbdmo.png
You can tell the colors/contrast are very different.
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>>51287101
>-The very first thing I noticed was that everything was... darker?
This did, as a matter of fact, happen to me as well - but only with versions trained for over 3000 steps. Given there are comparatively few images in this dataset, we may have both overfitted. Try earlier iterations. Going back to 2700 steps on my end eliminated the issue. Common mistake (according to Gemma).
>-When it comes to Nina herself, the new LoRA kept missing the mark when it came to her bangs and insisted on genning her with hair_between_eyes.
Hm. Not the case here. Swept bangs whether I tag them or no. Try again with model defaults and see whether it persists. Might be weights from your style LORA overpowering the character - is one explanation that springs to mind. Tagging swept_bangs in the dataset then/or in generation could be another workaround.
>-The dress length kept being way too short
This is definitely on the dataset images, lmao. Just look at em.
>+The shell hair ornament is also way better
This too, funnily. Nitpicked to feature the shell.
>assuming you have a built-in local WD Tagger
Using the one built into Anima-TrainFlow, actually (which also has a bucketing tool, so it's pretty well an all-in-one). I did deliberate bundling WD Tagger in with the editor, but it'd be yet another copy of another model kept in another folder. My SSD cried.
>I used the Web Demo before, you reckon it's good enough?
As long as it runs the newest model (wd-eva02-large-tagger-v3), it ought to perform identically. 0.35 general tag threshold, 0.85 character threshold were my settings.
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>>51287256
Nice touch with the blush on the back of Marisa's head, nearly missed it.
>we may have both overfitted
Thought my LoRA might've been overcooked as well so I retrained it with less steps (~2000 the 2500 that I had originally tried) but it still wasn't enough, everything's dark and high-contrast yet again with a preference for sunset on anything that's tagged as "outdoors" despite also adding "blue sky" and having "sunset" in the negatives. Guess it's just a training issue on my end. I did add swept_bangs to the LoRA and noticed an improvement there, at least, but since 2000 is supposedly the "minimum" interval for a good LoRA... I think that's the end of my Nina adventure. Hopefully the other LoRA I'm working on doesn't suffer these same issues.
>wd-eva02-large-tagger-v3
It was set to wd-swinv2-tagger-v3 by default but that is an option in the drop-down list that I had not noticed at all until now, thanks for the settings.
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>>51287496
There are very few "dark" images in the dataset, so it almost has to be a training problem. Here's a few clanker-suggested sanity checks.
Also, maybe double check optimiser values/types for SDXL.
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>>51287256
>I did deliberate bundling WD Tagger in with the editor, but it'd be yet another copy of another model kept in another folder. My SSD cried.
All good, although, if you're still looking to improve upon it... if you somehow managed to find a way to integrate some sort of booru tag autocomplete onto it, you'd be the KING.

>>51287508
Yeah I figured if the dataset was working for one of us then the issue was in the training, I'll give those fixes a try later when I can and then get back to you, I'm multitasking between tagging that other dataset and something else right now.
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>>51275626
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>>51272996
A touhou with a mecha
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>>51286984
ouuurgh more of this bodytype...
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>>51286984
I really like the style you went with, the proportions and posing is very appealing. You're the same guy that posted that Kasen in the last thread right? That one was really nice, liked the environment / atmosphere
Clever going with the traditional shinto wedding dress (I know that's what they went with for LW Reimu too but still)

>>51287101
Eeeheheee prettyyy
>The very first thing I noticed was that everything was... darker? It always felt like my Nina was being genned at sunset/in the shade, regardless of background or tagging. The overall colors were off too, it felt like my style was being messed with and everything had a higher contrast, in addition to being darker. I get that Nina would probably have a thing or two against glowies but this might be a bit much.
immediately seeing that, especially compared to older Nina gen attempts
This one here looks nice, and this would make a great alt outfit but its very much not her outfit (for one thing her sleeves aren't that big)
>>51287150
comparing just these raw images Reav's version got the colour gradient pattern on the frills down perfectly. The dress is overall very accurate except for the sleeves which are longer, can't help but notice as well the Reav version doesn't have her hair tied up with those cords. The older one has the more closer shade of blonde too
>>51287256
A victim of the Nyan Nyan's wicked ways, ouuugh that blush
>This is definitely on the dataset images, lmao. Just look at em.
It's like Aya's tasty legs, everyone wants to see em
Her dress is actually pretty short looking at the OG ZUNart, you can see the start of her thighs almost
>>51287496
Ooohhh more pretty, love the outline of her legs and hips being visible cause of the lighting
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>>51272996
Y'know what, try genning Hikariko, let's see how you do
was prompted because I saw this just now https://youtu.be/WA39JZe1BsA
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I gave chatgpt's image stuff another look. It's got a very anal set of censors, which is a shame.
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>>51288202
Also, I did get some extra arms/hands in one of the images and I have to fight it to make it not screw around with outfits/proportions.
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>>51288206
dumb idiot didn't check the weather forecast before going to the beach
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>>51287704
>doesn't have her hair tied up with those cords
FYI, this is working as intended. The ties are marked in the dataset, so what happens is the LORA does NOT associate them intrinsically with the trigger word - in this case, the character name. What this means is you're unlikely to see hair_ties crop up unless you specifically tag them in positives in addition to the trigger word. It makes the prompting process a tad more counter-intuitive to start (cause you'd think watari_nina = those hair ties, so no need to point this out, right?); however, it makes swapping hair styles much easier in turn, as you needn't fight the model treating Nina and the hair ties as inseparable elements of the whole. Same for clothing, accessories, etc.
... Arguably, this isn't the best of possible approaches, since the vast majority of users out there do not tend to pedantically prompt costume details, and expect a character LORA to reproduce all of a character's visual traits as a matter of course. Which is very much a valid assumption. This dataset was tailored to my own habits, so it is what it is.

Have the Nina from before with the side panel and some extra filthy dialogue:
https://files.catbox.moe/akmc9z.jpg
And with none: https://files.catbox.moe/vjgej0.jpg

I'll post something new in the evening.
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>>51287522
And you went with the one I specifically like. That big "Autumnal themed ideas" list I made did include bodypainting with the Akis

>>51288202
These are very nice looking, now I wonder if a localslopper could i2i this to work around the censors for you

>>51288475
>FYI, this is working as intended. However, it makes swapping hair styles much easier in turn, as you needn't fight the model treating Nina and the hair ties as inseparable elements of the whole. Same for clothing, accessories, etc.
Ahh I see, good. Now I wonder if I should help test it a bit by requesting some alt hair style or outfit gens.
Actually I remember an old one I requested but I don't think it ever made it through was Nina with her hair "down" (aka loose) either splayed out across a floor or bed or bathing near a waterfall with that sexy hair_over_breasts thing you see in some movies
I notice you particularly like giving characters who don't have them twin tails in certain gens (wonder if that's why you wanted hair flexibility with the LORA) so give that a try too she has the hair volume for it
>Have the Nina from before with the side panel and some extra filthy dialogue:
I knew the Biten's paw was gonna curl when I said "anyone other than Rinnosuke" but eh this is #NotMyNina (as her certain zumi friend might put it) anyways so I can enjoy it
WallButt scenarios aren't normally my forte but the dialogue was fun enough. Surprisingly editing it was quicker than I expected, the way you positioned the text in the bubbles meant all the offending sections were already seperated from the actual hot dialogue
Though seeing this preview pic >>51287256 actually made me wonder if this is one way to do collab pics, like make something with the composition cut apart with panelling, characters mid-dialogue but without any dialogue, blacken out one panel and then have every other sloppa try filling in the blackened panel and add their own dialogue. Fixes the artstyle background problem kinda (^ ^;)
Plus it'd be fun to see how creative people can get with it or see how much trolling happens with trying to avoid the obvious outcome the initial slopper was trying to lead you to

Anyways I demand compensation for this at a later date, preferably in the form of a foursome gen
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>>51288415
Should've asked Remi if it was her fate to get downpoured on.

>>51289442
>These are very nice looking, now I wonder if a localslopper could i2i this to work around the censors for you
Probably, or I could toss it into NAI. Honestly I should stop lazing around and actually set back up local with my 12 GB card, but I've had a lot of stuff on my plate recently.

A guy I know has a chatgpt sub and has gotten some pretty cute images out of it, but needing to argue with the ai to get it to show two people hugging when one of them is in a swimsuit is frustrating.
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>>51289596
By comparison, here's some attempts with Gemeni. It seems to have lower quality images on average than chatgpt and fights you even more on censoring, but gives you more images per 24 hours than chatgpt does.

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>>51285310
Holy image composition Batman... How the hell? The perspective/foreshortening actually makes sense too, goddamn. Starting to make me seriously question my SDXL stubbornness here...
>Can't tell whether you're acting the dense anime protagonist or need to hand in your weeb card...
I blame it on getting too immersed in my Rika gens. Joining her in Hakurei rants is very important.
>Game...?
Yeah! Y'know, the unfinished one?

>>51285444
>I mean it when I say I don't really see Mima like that
I mostly genned it for myself, but at this rate you're gonna make me pull out my secret weapon...
>I think you meant to say Akyuu (I get it if the arch enemy of your waifu is on your mind)
Oops... you even got the reasoning right too.
>8 incarnations worth of experience
An aspect that honestly not enough artists play with, but for some reason something about Akyuu makes me think that it'd either be that or the exact opposite? As in, she's somehow just completely inexperienced because she's unacquainted with how "commoners" do it nowadays.

>>51286984
She looks like the Tom & Jerry housewife...

>>51287082
Cheers, don't get your hopes up too early though, got a few gens I want to get out of the way first. Big to-do list and not a whole lot of time...

>>51287522
I dig the handprint, is it supposed to be hers?

>>51287704
>the Reav version doesn't have her hair tied up with those cords
Yeah, as was already said above I did eventually notice that she was missing that tag so that's on me.

>>51289596
Local models are already making significant strides on video stuff and mixing up natural language with booru tags, meanwhile big online corpo models are STILL struggling to get rid of that deepfried look...

>>51289628
Gemini truly shines when used as a tool to assist other more competent models, I.E. using it to remove/add/alter assets within an existing image, or giving you a solid base to inpaint/I2I on.
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>>51287508
By the way, tried out some of these checks. Option 1 is sort of unavailable for me right now as 2000 steps IS the least I've ever used, suppose I could try training a 1500 step one now though, but either way, I did try Option 3 and had awful results. Not only was the lighting/colors still messed up but her design started to deteriorate, too, notably her frills and sash. Also as the Ninatist pointed out I did also notice that her sleeves are way longer than they should be, so that's another thing this LoRA's not getting right compared to the existing one... dunno. I guess I've still got Option 2 to try out but it's looking quite bleak, especially considering I did finish training another LoRA I had been working on and came across the same exact color/darkness issue (albeit it's not as bad as on Nina), sort of confirming that it's a training issue on my behalf. Not that it really needed confirming as I already knew it couldn't possibly have been the dataset.
I know I'm using a different trainer, but I don't even think my settings are particularly out of the ordinary? https://files.catbox.moe/tnjgfu.png
The only settings not pictured here is that I use float16 (a necessity unfortunately) and I have my datasets set to 2 repeats since they're relatively small. I'm also changing the number of epochs based on this formula, with which I initially aimed for 2500 but have since lowered to 2000 and, with this most recent LoRA, 1900:
Dataset Imagecount x Repeats x Epochs = Steps
So in your LoRA's case, I went with 40*2*32 at first which gave me 2560 steps then I lowered the epochs to 25 which gave me 2000.
I got all of that from following this guide in conjunction with advice from an anon whose LoRAs I previously used and quite liked: https://civitai.com/articles/10889/training-noobai-vpred-loras-using-onetrainer-with-12-gb-of-vram-in-30-minutes
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>>51289804
Does your trainer not have an option to save every x steps? If you save every, say, 300 steps then you can train up to any final number and then just throw the lot into XYZ and compare the results from all across the curve.
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>>51289817
It does but I'm a bit hard-pressed for space right now so I just have that option disabled and do it all in one go every single time.
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>>51289628
make them have hot baby making sex and then raising a family together.
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>>51276628
I'm new to this image gen business, but i tried it anyway. How do you guys get the captions and stuff on? Do you write them yourself, or do you gen it too? Would love to get some tips!
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>>51273050
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>>51290052
That one will barely cover her coochie and that makes it better. Thanks.
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>>51287704
>I really like the style you went with
>look inside
>takorin style
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Unzan was busy, uh, working at the Hakurei shrine again, so it fell to somebody else to punish the arsonist today.
https://files.catbox.moe/zxjsh5.jpg

>>51287522
Stole that idea from right under me! Since she goes to all that effort painting the leaves, however, someone else really ought to shoulder the responsibility of painting her in turn. Orange optional.

>>51285444
>multiple Gensokyos running around in his head
That's the only way to keep the canontism from introducing a fatal aneurysm. Can't imagine living as one of whose folks who go around battling windmills by insisting on their One True Headcanon. Come on, you can hold more than one contrasting idea at once! It's called cognitive dissonance! No, wait--
>I'd be remiss to not mention her head clam has yellow eyes not white
Are we positive those aren't supposed to evoke pearls? Well, either way, noted for my colourblind arse.
>resurrected fossil youkai are a type of undead
I don't know, but I've been told...

>>51289746
Talk about deja hag. Or are you living vicariously again?
>How the hell?
Scribbled over an old Raiko gen + i2i to add Meru. Scribbled on that + i2i to add Lyrica. Not too difficult, given the subjects are more or less separate, plus Anima takes directional cues pretty well, so later 1x i2i isn't as messy. Not sure I could've gotten it in raw t2i, but I am sure this way was faster. ... Or perhaps I'm just stuck in my ways.
>Joining her in Hakurei rants is very important.
Then there's this girl who'd love to make her acquaintance. What was her name, again? She was big into ball sports, I think...
>I mostly genned it for myself
And there's the answer.

>>51289827
>a bit hard-pressed for space right now
How big do your LORAs come out...? Mine are about 90 megs a pop.
>>51289804
And, while those settings look fine ones I understand anyway, lmao, batch size 2 for a small dataset of under 200 images isn't going to be a noticeable benefit, unless you're seeing a major difference in it/s.
... Still, you'd save even more time by exporting every n steps and running a comparison over gunning for an arbitrary amount and hoping for the best.

>>51289981
Be easier to offer concrete (this is a China joke) tips if you named your tools/model of choice.
>How do you guys get the captions and stuff on?
Brain and GIMP, not necessarily in that order.
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>>51290175
>Be easier to offer concrete (this is a China joke) tips if you named your tools/model of choice.
i'm have a local rig, using comfyUI. I've got the WAI-illustrious-SDXL model, with a bunch of LoRAs for artstyle and upscaling. I just followed the guide pretty much. I think it was on /g/? I would love to try more models though.
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>>51290186
>WAI-illustrious-SDXL
Then the rules of thumb are thus:
1) Tag absolutely everything you want to see. It may be challenging to think of everything to start, but the reality is the more guidance you give to the model, the less vague garbage inferred from your laconic prompt it's going to spit out.
If it helps to visualise, my tagging strategy goes: 1girl/2girls/etc., character name, eye colour and type, hair colour and style, body type tags, expression of the eyes, expression of the mouth, overall pose, body parts' positions, top half of the costume, bottom half of the costume, on-body decals (sweat, dirt, fluids, hair), other subjects, interactions with other subjects, lighting, location, background props, angle type (wide, cowboy shot, upper body, from above, etc.), vfx.
It's not strictly necessary to be this thorough, mind. WAI's one of the best IL tunes at filling in - but, even its guesses only so far.
2) Make sure your tags actually ARE valid booru tags. Can't speak for Comfy; for A1111 by-blows, forge-neo and so, we've got extensions to keep track of that for us.
3) The single biggest quality bump for SDXL is indeed what we call upscaling. This is a bit of a misnomer, because the term usually applies to using an upscaler model (ESRGAN, Ultrasharp, your waifu2x of old) to stretch the image out with some enhancements. "Upscaling" in our parlance instead means taking your output to image2image and re-generating it at a higher resolution, using a stretched out version of the t2i base as guidance. "Hires fix" is the same function, if it rings a bell.
Anyway, SDXL runs a relatively small latent (think under-the-hood) resolution, which is why its raw outputs tend to look muddy, even if 1024x1024 sounds like it should be a lot of pixels. Upscaling's a whole another can of worms, so maybe try to pin down t2i for now. Just internalise that your stuff CAN look better - only not in t2i.

If you catbox a gen with metadata, we can look at it and see if any wrong settings jump out. Also, unless you're on Linux and/or AMD, do consider switching to forge-neo. It is seriously more beginner friendly.
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>>51289746
>Holy image composition Batman... How the hell? The perspective/foreshortening actually makes sense too, goddamn.
Guy knows how to get his group shots down
>you're gonna make me pull out my secret weapon...
There's some chub now. Listen it's basic biology for a man to be aroused by images like this but I'm just saying if it was like any other character I'd be harder much faster. I could jerk off to hot sexy Mima porn but It's not something I seek out
>but for some reason something about Akyuu makes me think that it'd either be that or the exact opposite? As in, she's somehow just completely inexperienced because she's unacquainted with how "commoners" do it nowadays.
I think ZUN clarified in WOoHS, Akyuu has to read something first for it to be added to her perma memory, info learned through hearing or other methods is not remembered as well. Plus there's the whole line about how her only knowledge that carries over when she reincarnates is mostly chronicle related.
So unless Hieda no Aya, her predecesor, wrote down "Dear diary, I got fucked superrrr good today. I'm going to describe it in detail" and Akyuu read it, Akyuu's experience would be more like vague muscle memory instincts on the matter. Like she'd give an 11/10 divine blowjob but with the nervousness of a virgin, she'd know how to angle herself to get you slamming her g-spot with every thrust on instinct.
We here at 2huAI care about making our degenerate smut as lore accurate as possible
>She looks like the Tom & Jerry housewife...
Reminder that Nazrin canonically brings up Jerry in the Unfinished game

>>51290129
To be fair I didn't recognise it without the grossly inhuman proportions, might as well be a new style

>>51290175
Ouuugh very hot, really like the arms tied above the head pose. At this point does Futo do what Futo does not because she is Futo but because Futo just likes getting dicked but is so old fashioned she doesn't know how to ask for it without asking for it by doing Futo things?
>Stole that idea from right under me! Since she goes to all that effort painting the leaves
Okay so we all were thinking the same thing... then again it's not super original or hard of an idea to come to
my exact wording for the request prompt was going to be "Aki Sisters lifting their shirts to flash the camera, they're both wearing a bra but Shizuha has painted Minoriko's breasts to look like a pair of pumpkins whilst she's painted either a leaf pattern on her own chest or apples on her breasts depending on how flattie you gen her"
>Are we positive those aren't supposed to evoke pearls?
Yellow pearls maybe, but yeah it's like one of the Heartless from Kingdom Hearts
I remember seeing like a tw*tter post sometime shortly after FW's release where they edited Nina to look like one of the character's colour palettes and I remember it kinda just coming out as Nina with a tan and black clothes and I thought it was kinda hot but I can't seem to find it again
Then again nothings stopping me from asking for Nina with a tan, you gave your jellyfish a tan so there's precedent for aquatic sealife to have tans
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>>51289746
>Cheers, don't get your hopes up too early though, got a few gens I want to get out of the way first. Big to-do list and not a whole lot of time...
For sure. I just can't tell you how amazed I was to see Roxy x Touhou. Looking forward to it.
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>I'm back! Sold out in literal seconds!
>Outstanding job, Inaba. Udonge should really take an example of your work efficiency. Maybe some more punishment shall serve as proper motivation...
>M-Master, w-wait! Anyway, Tewi! Master, look how much money she made! Something about this is super fishy! The humans are really stingy and she could have never made that much, even if she sold all the herbs and medicine!
>...What herbs and medicine? *grin*
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Can someone catbox an example of oneshotting something like >>51292650 in T2I?
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>>51292692
>oneshotting
>T2I
not possible
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>>51275626
And the other one:
https://files.catbox.moe/6t9k2u.png
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>>51289746
>is it supposed to be hers?
That, or perhaps her sister tried to 'help'
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>>51272996
Pole Dancing Koakuma
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Gotta love noticing mistakes *the moment* you press post.

>>51275626
Can't a goddess get some respect around here?

>>51289981
Pretty good for a first try, nice job.
>How do you guys get the captions and stuff on?
Assuming you mean Album stuff, it depends on the type of text/caption. If it's 2D and not overly stylized, like OP, I use https://www.myfonts.com/pages/whatthefont/ on the original cover to get as close of a font as possible and add the text myself on Photoshop, but on more stylized/3D logos (like the Metallica and Megadeth logos, for example) I tend to get Gemini to do it, then edit the new text onto the existing gen and inpaint it at a denoise level that lets it blend into the image better without changing the text too much. For that Roxy album above I initially tried method 1, but I got particularly unlucky and all the similar fonts were paid, so I just got Gemini to do it.

>>51290175
So the Buddhists just keep oni around now?
>living vicariously again
With THIS hag? No way, man. Only room for 1 girl in this heart for that.
>I am sure this way was faster. ... Or perhaps I'm just stuck in my ways.
Well, call it cope but I guess it's a bit of a relief that you got this via an SD-esque way still. Though that depth perception is STILL quite crazy. Also I forgot to mention it at the time but isn't your Raiko... y'know, supposed to be part of a duet?
>She was big into ball sports, I think...
Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good tank at your side, hag.
>And there's the answer.
Eh? Hold on, I genned THE IMAGE for myself, the text was an afterthought!

>>51290825
>if it was like any other character I'd be harder much faster
You're offending the poor woman's pride here... there's still a fine lady under that troublemaker facade, you know? Well, half of one, anyways.

>>51291659
There's a Touhou crossover for just about everything, to be fair. When it comes to album covers alone for example I've already done 12, and that's not counting the backs of some of those albums, too. And that's also not to mention the fact that I've got about a dozen more on my mind right now...

>>51292882
2.37!? Awfully lightweight for that size...
>80085
Much better.
Crazy composition work here too, can't help but notice that you got a lot better at dealing with background perspectives compared to your earlier gens. I gotta ask, though, is that Chimata floating?...
>perhaps her sister tried to 'help'
Poor Shizuha-chan can't do her job alone without her bustier sister coming by and stealing all the attenti- I mean, faith...
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>>51293276
this should be remade in spacezin's artstyle
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"I'm fine with anything!"
Biggest lie she's ever told. 11 places, 11 no's. One place she actually likes, and she won't say it!. My Chinese girlfriend says "hot pot" every time. No list, no vote. 2 years of hot pot and i've never once had to decide. Now that's "fine with anything".
You met me at a very Chinese time of my life.
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>>51292882
Ah man a multi character image like this with characters in the background and foreground like this is exactly what I really like to see
Also a Fall Marketplace gen was another thing in my request list
I can't help but notice a lot of the characters already look like they're almost nude, Minoriko has the naked apron thing going on (the weighing scale idea is hot) I'm normally more into her sister but those fertile valleys are really inviting
Nitori wearing nothing but engineer overalls is surprisingly really hot and I don't think I've ever seen her in that kind of outfit before, unfortunately though it's the nature of Dungarees to be kinda hard to access the private parts without taking the whole thing off. How do you feel about 'through the zipper sex' cause I need more of that Nitori outfit combo
Not much to say on Chimata other than, happy you included her (she's an occasional member of my top 7) and I appreciate for the nude version you kept the cape and boots on. Nor do I have much to say on the other background characters beyond "nice you nudified them too" and "I like the sekibanki head"
It's funny to me that Urumi's outfit is just canonically like that, I mean here its more swimsuit-esque but... not much of a difference. Oh and excellent choice to keep the jacket on for the nude version, I'm not too much of an Urumi guy but that's doing it for me
Not sure how into this kind of stuff you are but I feel like the nude version should have had her lactating a bit, really hammer in the milk joke

>>51293276
It's been so long since last I've seen a sinsack
I love when people acknowledge Shizuha has to be crazy strong to do what she does, she's probably the closest person to match Saki's unmatched leg strength
>Gotta love noticing mistakes *the moment* you press post.
It does make it all the more satisfying when your bullet time kicks in and you hit cancel before it posts
>So the Buddhists just keep oni around now?
Well you gotta remember Byakuren was trapped and betrayed in the hyperbolic Makai chamber for 1000 years (okay you know what someone needs to gen that thumbnail but with Byakuren lol) it's probably had an effect
>but isn't your Raiko... y'know, supposed to be part of a duet?
We're quizzing this guy for failing to keep his marriage continuity consistent
I think the answer is some gens have continuity with each other but sometimes the scenario is just the scenario and not some deeper connected part of the greater RCU (Reav Cinefapic Universe)
>You're offending the poor woman's pride here... there's still a fine lady under that troublemaker facade, you know?
I dunno man I can't control my urges. It's like okay I wouldn't turn her down if she propositioned me or wouldn't not get horny seeing smut of her but there's other characters I would "blast mad rope into" like we're talking spools here by comparison
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>>51293276
>There's a Touhou crossover for just about everything, to be fair.
Haven't seen something as niche as Roxy Music before. UK glam rock is my love language. Would love to see a Rinnosuke x Bowie tribute. Maybe the cover of David Live.
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>>51293832
it's strange how Meiling's nemesis is a fat lazy catfish
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Beachpost.
Fell down the LORA training rabbit hole again, except this time it yielded nothing of use. Fun!

>>51290825
>At this point does Futo do what Futo does
Think she's re-enacting those questionable stories she read back in the day, when she wasn't plotting the downfall of clans or popping out Soga kids.
>I remember it kinda just coming out as Nina
>I thought it was kinda hot
Go figure.

>>51292519
>worn
But I don't see any stains or stray hairs...?

>>51292882
When everybody and their cow's using and abusing the same marketing gimmick, does retain its effectiveness...? Is there such a thing as too much boob per minute?
Was about to question why the Bankihead remained fully clad between pictures, but I guess she's there as a customer today.
Also, object continuity curse strikes again!

>>51293276
Fortunately, no self-respecting Sin Sack has ever said that.
>So the Buddhists just keep oni around now?
If only those. https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/File:ThGK_Bunbunmaru7.jpg
Hear they've even got a nun with huge tits. What's THAT got to do with Buddhism?
>isn't your Raiko... y'know, supposed to be part of a duet?
That depends. Can a roadie eventually get promoted to manager...? If so, that's in the future. Would make this scene a bit of a retcon if so, too, but let's not let that get in the way of letting the other girls in on the fun.
>2.37!? Awfully lightweight for that size...
Most of it is hopes and dreams. Rather airy.

>>51294161
It is said we are our own worst enemies.
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>>51293276
>When it comes to album covers alone for example, I've already done 12
Which? I only remember your Dream Theatre one
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>>51290825
>grossly inhuman proportions
ich liebe grosse Frauen!
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>>51292692
I wouldn't say not possible, though you'll hardly get any refinement. Picrel is what I got by asking Gemini "Do not create an image. Create a JSON I can give you to create an anime style 16:9 Touhou image of (from left to right, standing smiling at the viewer):
Remilia dressed as Sakuya
Yuyuko dressed as Youmu
Kanako dressed as Sanae
Yukari dressed as Reimu
Satori dressed as Orin" then (in a new chat) giving it the result.
With local, I was able to make https://files.catbox.moe/qe2pp5.png which is almost what I was going for; though it really doesn't count as a oneshot given the number of times I revised the tags and the specific areas that each regional prompt aimed for. You might get better results in Anima but regardless not one to oneshot.

>>51293276
>Awfully lightweight for that size...
Maybe goddesses are lighter than they look? They're barely physical and can exist in multitudes, so mass shouldn't be much of a factor. Makes them easier to princess carry/reverse suspended congress...

>>51293859
>'through the zipper sex'
Thankyou for the idea
>lactating a bit
I had the thought but I'm really neutral on the fetish, so I'm not sure on how to make it appealing.

>>51294167
>object continuity curse
The key?
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>>51295153
That's a very Byakuren-looking Kanako.
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Why does it have to be a oneshot anyway?
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>>51294167
My instincts are telling me this is erotic, but my brain is telling me this is just a really dumb scenario. Still though I'm harder than a rock looking at this
>When everybody and their cow's using and abusing the same marketing gimmick, does retain its effectiveness...? Is there such a thing as too much boob per minute?
I'd say so. Although now I wonder if you're borrowing Urumi's costume here or if the swimsuit alt is just a natural conclusion
>If only those. https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/File:ThGK_Bunbunmaru7.jpg
The presence of mythological-like youkai in the printworks always confuddles me.
>That depends. Can a roadie eventually get promoted to manager...? If so, that's in the future. Would make this scene a bit of a retcon if so, too, but let's not let that get in the way of letting the other girls in on the fun.
You can have multiple timelines and alt universes
Perhaps we can seperate and categorize them, let's say the base universe is L1 and we can use different numberings to seperate universes that are similar to the base universe but with different character personalities and call it like L80
No what's special is when we get to different letters like Universe A1- (USER WAS EXTERMINATED FOR THIS POST)

>>51295153
Well that looks... interesting
>Maybe goddesses are lighter than they look? They're barely physical and can exist in multitudes, so mass shouldn't be much of a factor.
It is assuredly so, the "able to split yourself infinitely thing" does already imply a violation of regular Laws of Conservation of Mass/Matter
hmm wait a minute split yourself infinitely. Dammit we could have been having gens where multiple Suwakos are sucking you off, threesomes with two Shizuhas, Group Sex but all the girls that are getting fucked are Hina! it's lore accurate!
>Makes them easier to princess carry/reverse suspended congress...
I'm rather partial to princess carry sex but I think that's just cause I like that one kind of position where you have the legs lifted up but kept together instead of spread apart ever since I saw Gin'you Haru's legendary countdown to comiket image set https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/2808661 something about the way Kaguya's skirt is not all the way off like it's whats keeping her legs tied together like that really turns me on
Speaking of I remember on the wait for th20's release I wanted to actually do a mega request to specifically do your own take on this image set but I realised it was way too late for it because it'd be impossible to accomplish unless you genned the pics ahead of time, still though the concept of simple sex slop with literally every 2hu appeals to me but we'll have to wait until Th21 get's announced
>Thankyou for the idea
No no tenkyuu for following it up (get it cause her outfit is 90% zipper)
>so I'm not sure on how to make it appealing.
Eh I'm not super hardcore into it, though I know exactly which nhentai doujin gave me that fetish 408029 Flandre saying "I have hundreds of years of solo play behind me" is a line I won't forget lol
I was just thinking like have a drop / stream of milk running down the breast from the nipple. It just informs you "ah they're lactating" without it being excessive. Let me tell you the real lactation fetishists make the girls look like they're trying to run their own slip and slide with how much is spraying out
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Might as well gen the other one.
Also, it just dawned on me that I probably won't be genning much starting on October 2nd due to... "reasons", so I should probably get some work done on these more complicated gens I've got on my mind before the storm of 1girl, solo, cowboy shot comes...

>>51293773
Couldn't help but think of them either while working on this lol.

>>51293859
>It's been so long since last I've seen a sinsack
We all really oughta gen them more, after all they are THE perfect self-insert, I'd imagine. The one true 2D entity that embodies the /jp/ spirit. Who needs masturbation fairy OCs?
>Shizuha has to be crazy strong to do what she does
Definitely an underappreciated aspect of her, even the people I see tap into her lore usually do so by tapping into her leaf-painting side (as was shown in this very thread, actually) but you almost never see the tree-kicking side. If Minoriko's faith is gathered at the top, Shizuha's is definitely gathered at the bottom.
Also, not sure if she'd be second place when it comes to leg strength, Yuugi and the other Oni exist... but she'd definitely top 5.

>>51294167
Rock hard stacking!!!
>Fell down the LORA training rabbit hole again, except this time it yielded nothing of use. Fun!
Welcome to the club! What was it this time? I've yet to pick up the Nina LoRA again hence the silence since then. Turns out that other LoRA I had been training is actually mostly fine, though, I just overreacted a little. There's still *some* style bleed, but it's an acceptable amount considering the small dataset (29).
>self-respecting Sin Sack
Ohh I get it, this is like a trick question, right? Because there's no such thing?
>What's THAT got to do with Buddhism?
They're meant to be like those Buddhist prayer beads, except she went for quality over quantity. Reminds me I ought to gen that unbelievably ero outfit she wears in LE, even if it's just her regular one without the jacket...

>>51294307
>I only remember your Dream Theatre one
Do you have the slightest idea of how little that narrows it down?
Either way, they're all here: https://aibooru.online/posts?tags=rikanon+album_cover

>>51295153
>Maybe goddesses are lighter than they look?
Could you please zip it with the excuses and step on the scale already, Kanako-sama?...

>>51295214
'cause being lazy and having unrealistically high expectations is the fuel all sloppers run on.
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"Ehh~? You finally beat my Extra Phantom cards?"
"About time! What butler of mine can't even do that?"
[...]
"Ah. But you can't come inside though."
"After all. I know you used 'Challenge Mode'~"

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Panel 2: https://files.catbox.moe/b4k9jh.png

last major idea with the flanbug to top off clearing her extra phantom phase finally.
(obviously I had to do it via challenge mode because like hell would I clear it with standard mode when her extra 3 cards are all QED equivalents minus the rage phase)

Not really satisfied with the dialogue/caption even after sitting on it for a few days. Partly why I'm just leaving it out on here. Also perspectives a fuck, think I went through like 57 iterations just to try and get the angle and size of her right.

Probably done with NC for the while, all that's more or less left is to grab the Hard and Lunatic playthrough cheevos and do a no death clear, which that would definitely take a while.

Back on the main desktop again, so hopefully can start poking at Minimax H3 for a bit and tackle some other gens.

>>51288202
I don't know what it is about long-hair Koa but for some reason this design just scratches the nice feeling of "simple, yet hot."
I don't even like Koakuma that much!

>>51282972
best I can give you is a rough gen of Flan in some cyber armor/plugsuit when I was messing around with LoRAs a while ago. https://files.catbox.moe/e5ur9l.png

I actually wanted the wallpaper gen of Flan from last thread to incorporate her in some kind of cyber armor adaptation of her outfit but couldn't get one to my tastes/vision.
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>>51295454
>What was it this time?
Believe it or not.
I'll share findings later.
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>>51295454
Minoriko cleavage brings me life
>Also, it just dawned on me that I probably won't be genning much starting on October 2nd due to... "reasons"
well hope those aren't for bad evil stressful reasons
>We all really oughta gen them more, after all they are THE perfect self-insert, I'd imagine.
I realised looking back on it whenever I put in "some guy" in a request I should have put sinsack if I wanted it to be self-insert stuff... whoops
>If Minoriko's faith is gathered at the top, Shizuha's is definitely gathered at the bottom.
Oh my i'm blushing at the thought
>Also, not sure if she'd be second place when it comes to leg strength, Yuugi and the other Oni exist... but she'd definitely top 5.
Gods forbid all of them (and Saki) get together to do the can can; Line of Death
>Could you please zip it with the excuses and step on the scale already, Kanako-sama?...
Well as a goddess of winds she ought to be light as a feather, Suwako on the otherhand? *Ka-chunk*
Explains why she keeps breaking the bed springs... and her suitor's hips

>>51295579
reward at the end of the tunnel, holy shit that's a hot perfect pose. Challenge mode be damned I'd go for it
>I don't know what it is about long-hair Koa but for some reason this design just scratches the nice feeling of "simple, yet hot."
It's the classic fanon design, I can't actually confirm it but I suspect this hair style she used to get given a lot was actually based on Morrigan Aensland since she also has bat wings on her head, think that's where people got the Succubus thing from too

>>51295812
Well I was right about her that's for sure, although based on that expression she's not thrilled about it herself
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Soothless: https://files.catbox.moe/nnisw2.jpg

Nothing smart to say, except wow, LORAs for characters with wholly unique facial features that directly contradict the model's weights sure are a pain to pin down!
Anyway, tiny dataset (20 images) of singularly poor quality, so I wasn't experiencing a style leak as much as a style collapse - despite plugging in my own style LORA. What helped was marking visual style traits in the dataset (thick_outlines, etc.) and retraining. Still weakens the other LORA's effect, but suppose with 20 shitty images and more than 1000 steps necessary before it even remotely caught on to the character expectations ought to be tempered.

>>51294610
That feels remarkably tame for your standards.

>>51295153
>it really doesn't count as a oneshot given the number of times I revised the tags and the specific areas that each regional prompt aimed for
Well, NAI once sold plain old regional prompting as a revolutionary new feature of their proprietary model, so perhaps it's a matter of marketing it.
>The key?
The counter. I mean, I understand Minomino's minominos warping reality, but a regular watermelon? No way.

>>51295415
>My instincts are telling me this is erotic, but my brain is telling me this is just a really dumb scenario.
Then your brain is a cow, while your instincts are jellyfish. I'll share a fun interpretation from elsewhere: Eika's silent message is "You must be this big to ride."
>The presence of mythological-like youkai in the printworks always confuddles me.
Wonder what the Jinmenken's up to these days. Last seen nesting under the Hakurei shrine, wasn't he? When Clappy moved in, they must have met... Hm.

>>51295454
Would you look at that. It is time for a HARVEST.
>I probably won't be genning much starting on October 2nd due to... "reasons"
Uh oh. Sombre men in suits come to collect on that GPU purchase?
>you almost never see the tree-kicking side
Cause it's uncouth. Shizu's supposed to be the sophisticated, artsy type, after all.
>Reminds me I ought to gen that unbelievably ero outfit she wears in LE, even if it's just her regular one without the jacket...
... For a longish bit there I was stuck thinking you were referring to Ichirin (whom I'd meant, actually), and it left me blinking. Ichirin's OG appearance outfit, erotic...? Yeah, not even I can salvage that one.
>'cause being lazy and having unrealistically high expectations is the fuel all sloppers run on.
Ouch.

>>51296788
>based on that expression she's not thrilled about it
Girl strikes me as the type who'd rather be disappointed than disappointed, if you know what I mean.
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>>51289981
Wow pretty cool, thank you!!! OR, I didn't expect Meiling but she fits the role well
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>>51281992
Here you go, the colors are quite a bit different from the original but I still think it came out fine.
Gonna take a small break from album requests in particular for a bit though, there's another Dream Theater cover that's been on my mind for a while now that I want to get out of the way.

>>51295153
I've been meaning to ask by the way, but why do you ask for a JSON? I always just get Gemini to do images for me.

>>51295579
Panel 1 comes off as being the type of gen that looks a LOT easier to pull off than what it actually was, you nailed the angle and POV so nice job! Panel 2 is great too, love the pose and all the physical touch you managed to squeeze in, especially her leaning her head on him and the belt grab.

>>51295812
Assuming Anima's smart enough to know the Suzu, so, Fortune Teller? Honestly pretty cool if that's the case. I'd take him over Kosuzu's dad or gramps or whoever that ojiisan was any day of the week.

>>51296788
>Minoriko cleavage brings me life
You and the crops, apparently. Or is it the other way around? We shall never know.
>bad evil stressful reasons
Nope. At least not directly, though it's bound to create some stress for sure. Ever heard of slacking?
>Suwako on the otherhand?
I mean, she's light enough to fly around all over the place by just flapping her arms, according to Soku... that, and she can fly *way* more than the other characters.

>>51297095
Guess it was the man after all and you managed to get it working, huh? Hmmm... Suzuppai and Suzucarpet...
>Sombre men in suits come to collect on that GPU purchase?
It's more-so men in fighter jets coming to put my GPU purchase to the test.
>Shizu's supposed to be the sophisticated, artsy type, after all.
But then WHY is she going around KICKING TREES? Repressed anger/jealousy? I know a therapist.
>Ichirin's OG appearance outfit, erotic...?
In a few religions, apparently.
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>>51297095
So he just wants to shower her huh, what a gentleman
Can't blame him, they put the fun in funbags
See this is why Reimu found it important to kill Fortune Teller asap, his face was just too dang different from the rest of the artstyle
>I'll share a fun interpretation from elsewhere: Eika's silent message is "You must be this big to ride."
Now that I think about it that guy must be quite small considering Eika's size. Hell I'm not exactly arrogant about size in that department but I'm sure I can get on Miss Ebisu's wild ride
Although there's some gravitational effect with Urumi drawing my eyes away
>Wonder what the Jinmenken's up to these days. Last seen nesting under the Hakurei shrine, wasn't he? When Clappy moved in, they must have met... Hm.
I know where you're heading with this and honestly I'm surprised the lady who literally lives alone in a manor filled with all sorts of animals isn't the target of this
that being said remember that time Maribel encountered Tesso in the woods
Though for the record Jinmenken dissolved overnight after being captured so I don't think they ever met
>Cause it's uncouth. Shizu's supposed to be the sophisticated, artsy type, after all.
As a fan of the Shizz I like both aspects I feel like wittling her down to a specific type like that is doing her a disservice. Both her and her sister are meant to be kind of unsophisticated gods that doesn't preclude her from being artsy.
>Girl strikes me as the type who'd rather be disappointed than disappointed, if you know what I mean.
I know what you mean but I don't know how that applies to her expression (I mean it certainly applies to the follow-up)

>>51299022
I wonder if its just cause we got tired of the joke's prevelance but I'm surprised masochist Tenshi hasn't made its way into any pornslop
That is an amazing outfit for Yuuka though
>Physical touch
Another appreciator of the finer details (I just forgot to mention it but I did like the belt grab too)
>Spoiler
Boy do I... oh so are you just planning a break for yourself
>she's light enough to fly around all over the place by just flapping her arms, according to Soku
It's the sleeves, they act as wings. I mean we used to have five hundred pound dinosaurs flying around with just the flapping of their wings, ask Nina she can corroborate (eyewitness account)
Bah but evidence from the games trumps baseless speculation anyday!
>Suzuppai and Suzucarpet...
Suzunanpa, it's half-book store half meetup place for singles
Akyuu's suggestion to help the human population grow (frequent customers include the barkeep at Geidontei, that caped redhead girl, that androgynous newsboy and Kosuzu's brunette friend with the checkered scarf... an (a)rousing success!)
>It's more-so men in fighter jets coming to put my GPU purchase to the test.
Is it the day of the rake already? Well it is Fall so right season for it jokes aside I think I know the geopolitical situation you're referencing, you have my sympathies my country ain't exactly that much different

BTW question
Are we gonna have to rename the thread to /2huSI/ from now on? Or are we just gonnaaaa.....(picrel)

Better question: Know what time it is? https://youtu.be/J8f7oKeMstQ
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Implicit: https://files.catbox.moe/n8sd1r.jpg

>>51299022
The eldest daughter is being... degraded? Quite the departure from the original. I get the joke, but how come not a, say, dapper Satorin?
>managed to get it working
"Working" is, certainly, a term. Not looking forward to that Anxious Moustached Villager LORA... Then again, at least he's human. Still. I think.
Not even going to try and find enough pictures of the MAN, the LEGEND, Mr Hungry Villager. I know the Japanese weren't ready.
>It's more-so men in fighter jets coming to put my GPU purchase to the test.
Of the two lame excuses, I'm not sure which's the more relatable.
>Repressed anger/jealousy? I know a therapist.
No room could contain such a concentration of freckles.

>>51299151
>what a gentleman
The way he stops and attempts parley with Reimu in FS makes me picture him as exceedingly polite in the least appropriate (and dumbest of) ways.
>his face was just too dang different from the rest of the artstyle
DESERVED.
>surprised the lady who literally lives alone in a manor filled with all sorts of animals isn't the target of this
Satorin's surprisingly high on my sorter, but she doesn't do a lot for the, yanno, neighbour downstairs. Maybe it's those damn external veins...
>Though for the record Jinmenken dissolved overnight after being captured
He pops up again at the end of the chapter... though I suppose it's debatable whether that's a flashback panel.
>SI
I'm out of the loop. What?
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>>51300051
more restrained in terms of what's on display relatively speaking but nonetheless very ero, I can't believe when I first got into Touhou I used to count Mokou in the same category I count Mima, but my mind has been opened screw Kaguya her beauty is overrated. Mokou's leaning over fully clothed and I want to cover her in beads of respect... and that's not even getting to the blowjob.
>No room could contain such a concentration of freckles.
https://youtu.be/oLtlqs2PXXs
>The way he stops and attempts parley with Reimu in FS makes me picture him as exceedingly polite in the least appropriate (and dumbest of) ways.
For sure, he could have been quite the funny character. Too bad they got him
>DESERVED.
Same for that shoe youkai Marisa stomps to death. Thing wasn't even trying to be Touhou girl shaped!
>but she doesn't do a lot for the, yanno, neighbour downstairs. Maybe it's those damn external veins...
Contrarywise she does a lot for me, despite the fact that I don't really care for her character that much. While she'd be awful to deal with on the day-to-day in any other situation for a one night encounter the mindreading becomes a plus as it means she knows exactly everything you want to do to her deep down in your heart and can say "I know everything you want to do to me and the answer is yes to everything, don't hold back." Definite breeding material in my opinion
I still wonder if you could get away with some simplified alt character design to sidestep the veins. Wouldn't be the first time. Though actually now browsing danbooru for a bit the top-rated Satori posts tend to sneak around the veins grossness issue by just having the cords be around her body without connecting to anywhere in-frame
>He pops up again at the end of the chapter... though I suppose it's debatable whether that's a flashback panel.
Well you've done gens with Fortune Teller, a character being dead isn't going to stop you from using them in scenarios as what-ifs
>I'm out of the loop. What?
Well as of two days ago an executive order has been signed, we must officially change the terms AI or Artificial Intelligence to SI or Super Intelligence.
and I must say boy is it hard to find Touhou character names with si in them, how are we gonna make thread edition puns now? Well I suppose we can take names with "Shi" in them and remove the H, eh but these threads are mostly H!!!
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Also I know you paired Wriggle and Reimu up because of a certain series of gens and ideas but I just realised are you referencing this https://youtu.be/s_SvD3E1bAo
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>>51299151
>I'm surprised masochist Tenshi hasn't made its way into any pornslop
Well I'm not exactly the biggest Tenshi fan so...
>That is an amazing outfit for Yuuka though
Thanks! I was gonna give her a red dress at first, but I thought a green one would fit the overall green theme the image had going on. It does make Tenshi stick out like a sore thumb, though.
>so are you just planning a break for yourself
Well, suppose you could call it that.
>I think I know the geopolitical situation you're referencing
Eh?... Anon... I'm talking about Ace Combat 8.
>Are we gonna have to rename the thread to /2huSI/ from now on?
I can't exaclty tell whether you're joking or not so I'll just play along and say I don't really care about it and I'm gonna continue calling it AI (as I imagine most people also will).

>>51300051
WHAT is this supposed to teach him? Mokou is a terrible nee-san.
>I get the joke, but how come not a, say, dapper Satorin?
Well, my first thought was "the background and overall colors are weird, and I need to replace the leopard with something", and a character being on a leash immediately led me into S&M which in turn lead me into Yuuka & Tenshi, which also helped with the overall background issue because it meant I could replace the black theme and cityscape with a green theme and row of sunflowers, respectively. I gotta say though, a dapper Satorin walking a big Orin would've also been a great choice, it just didn't cross my mind whatsoever because "mature lady in a gala dress" was a massive curveball that Satori couldn't possibly ever hope to catch.
...speaking of, you somehow haven't genned her yet actually, have you? Too scared of those "damn external veins"? Hm?
>Mr Hungry Villager
Yeah, if you're genning Moustache-san then you gotta have him too, otherwise the best Manzai duo is incomplete...
>Of the two lame excuses, I'm not sure which's the more relatable.
Eh?
>No room could contain such a concentration of freckles.
DON'T DO THIS TO ME! NOW I NEED IT!
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>>51299151
>masochist tenshi
I'm morally opposed to the concept. It's a disservice to her character and a waste of potential for a shitty joke, no different than most EoSD stale memes. I could never do that to my girl.
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Is Tensor AI better than CivitAI?
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>>51301107
Cute Jo'on's sister.
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>>51301353
No way, Tensor AI sux dicks after they permanently decided to censor anything even slightly lewd.
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>>51301401
But do they have more LoRAs than CivitAI?
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>>51301601
just make your own LoRA brah
if civit or pixAI doesn't have a LoRA of what you want just use Civit's trainer or do a local train.
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https://files.catbox.moe/ly9r0t.png
You sell fish

>>51299022
>why do you ask for a JSON
JSON is very helpful with more complex gens from Gemini. A while ago I looked up how they recommend you prompt it for images, and it had some examples of JSON prompts for comics - with it being fairly specific about the contents. From my testing, if you don't use a JSON it's about half a step better than Anima at image composition etc., while if you do it blows Anima out of the water. At a guess, behind the scenes the text generator creates a prompt for the image generator but when it does so it isn't as intelligent as when the text generator is directly replying to you. Giving it the JSON means that it's basically got all of the information it needs in a format it understands, so it'll get things like outfits correct and on the right person.
You should always check over the JSON first though, and possibly regenerate it if it's lacking in detail or doesn't actually do what you're wanting.
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>>51300516
>more restrained
Eeeh? She's only holding his hand; surely the big boy could escape if he wanted to... right? Yeah, yeah. I know.
>Mokou's leaning over fully clothed and I want to cover her in beads of respect
Mokou is, indeed, erotic in the excess. The untamed energy of her outward appearance, the casual contempt for contemporary conventions, the disregard for her own wellbeing - it adds up to a girl who'd blithely bend over for a Fugodoku doujin. And she's high in regard of the general fandom, too, going by her well warmed spot in the popularity poll.
... Which makes it all the odder how little "material" she gets. When was the last time you read a Mokou doujin?
>Definite breeding material in my opinion
Yep, that's Satorinfanspeak all right.
>Super Intelligence.
Talk about a FFFUCKING misnomer. I'll be going back under my anti-AI-news rock now, ta very much. It's blissful there.

>>51300594
Nope, not really referencing anything specific. That said, I consider it one of the less weird Wriggle ships. WrigglexEirin springs to mind. What even.

>>51301107
Joon's influence was a disaster for the steadfastness of Hijiri's human disciples. Not that mistress Paicharya's helping things by making those kinds of faces.
>WHAT is this supposed to teach him?
The pecking order (Mokou's on top). The perks of sucking up to women (specifically, Mokou). The reason it's called Lewdsokyo (Mokou's partly to blame).
... Him eventually simping for Joon wasn't an intended effect, probably.
>mature lady in a gala dress
Ah, that'd be the snag, yeah. Then again, putting voluminous dresses on inadequately-shaped girls...
>...speaking of, you somehow haven't genned her yet actually, have you? Too scared of those "damn external veins"? Hm?
I did, once! She had a vein sticking out from right under her ribs... Yich.
>if you're genning Moustache-san then you gotta have him too
I mean, I've GIMPainted him once or twice - but a LORA? Not even Tenkai could.
>Eh?
Vidya, debt collectors, both excuses I've given before.

>>51301740
>if civit or pixAI doesn't have a LoRA of what you want just use Civit's trainer or do a local train.
Huh, you can use self-uploaded LORAs with Civit's on-site image gen?

>>51302962
This doesn't seem fair. What did Okuu do wrong...? Or, was it supposed to be a bath? That's not how a bird bath works, Satori-sama...
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Sidenote I had to split this cause it hit word limit so here's a reaction gif I think Rika would appreciate (also applies to the Byakuren pic)

>>51301107
Both in LE and here it just looks like she wore a towel to go to bed. I feel like even though I don't actively lust over Byakuren as much as other characters she would objectively be one of the better ones to bed just cause of the warmth and comfort she could give
plus big tits
>I'm talking about Ace Combat 8.
There's a new one?!??? What where why haven't I heard of this!!!
Also goes to show how much of a pessimist I am, my first and second assumptions were something bad was going to happen to you and your country was getting invaded
sigh I wish my country could get invaded, that'd be a fun way to die
>I can't exaclty tell whether you're joking or not
I'm joking, such absolute distilled nothing, Zanmu must be jealous
>DON'T DO THIS TO ME! NOW I NEED IT!
*Rod Sterling voice* Imagine if you will, you're lying in bed nude and imagine if you will Rika, the Akis, Parsee and Yuuka all around you also nude listen you genned a 5+ girl shot for an anon's birthday once treat yourself why dontcha

Also for some reason I pictured a scenario where for whatever reason the Akis tried to to pass Rika off as an Aki sister for some kind of competition so they stuck her in a red dress and had Shizuha sloppily dye her hair blonde
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>>51301320
Hard agree, jokes like that (such as USC for Yuuka) are the bane of my Touhou obsessed existence. But I'm so habituated to seeing it at this point
Anyways I meant something more like Tenshi gens with a bit of roughplay, referencing it in a more tasteful manner. She's not full on blushing getting tied up and getting flogged but she is one of those girls that's into a bit of playful biting, keeps the character intact I'd hope

>>51302962
What's this about fish
cute concept though Satori's expression tells me she has devious plans for Okuu, do not molest your birds! They are to be held but not squeezed

>>51303179
Well I was impressed you made unexpected sequels to three old gens now you've made a prequel to that one Fortune Teller gen way back
Next step is clearly going for a sidequel
>... Which makes it all the odder how little "material" she gets. When was the last time you read a Mokou doujin?
As I mentioned I used to count her in the same category as Mima, she's someone really cool but the coolness is what the main appeal is and in a weird way that coolness interferes with your arousal. They're too intimidating, out of your league! They're not just something you can just lust over but to be awed and respected!
But as said my mind has long since been opened in regards to Mokou yet I still see her as really cool
>Yep, that's Satorinfanspeak all right.
Ironically I just said I don't even like her character that much, I just think she's hot. It's the fluffy hair I think, I can picture myself stroking her head as she sucks me off; she's reading my mind and getting beamed a thousand wordless praises getting so much positive feedback for once in her lonely depressive life she's drooling on it (which makes it feel all the more better) and redoubling her efforts to pleasure me even harder.
You can't get that with Koishi, that's why Satori rated herself 11/10 and her sister 7/10 (the high number is because Koishi is pretty cool ngl)
>Nope, not really referencing anything specific.
"I know, I'm just saying. It's interesting, the coincidence. What, you're gonna tell me you never pondered that? The Wriggle bareback thing with the Hakurei Dame?"
>WrigglexEirin springs to mind. What even.
Huh that's a thing...
no wait I think I know the exact logic, people shipped Wriggle with Yuuka because green hair and flowers and bugs (before Wriggle got cucked by the superior Eternity Larva entering the picture)
Yuuka had the whole USC fanon thing going on so their relationship got characterized as BDSM sadomasochist stuff
In the early days Eirin also got characterized as a sadist for some fucking reason, maybe it was this PV that spawned it or the other way around I can't remember https://youtu.be/rilJQjzJWKQ
So artists must have decided Wriggle was 1.) Into milfs and 2.) Into sadists and decided to pair her up with the milf sadist from the game she's from
also apparently they had like one interaction in Inaba of the Earth and Inaba of the Moon where Eirin says "Bug lives don't matter today" https://youtu.be/OGrmJHqqi4M

and checking pixiv... I'm seeing collars! Eh but wait why is Wriggle tying up Eirin? Could it be they're implying Wriggle has picked up nasty traits from Yuuka and is turning the tables on Eirin? Ahhh I give up on trying to understand it. What even indeed
Hang on wouldn't pairing Wriggle up with Reimum basically be still upholding "into milfs and sadists" (and don't tell me Reimu doesn't enjoy beating people up)
>... Him eventually simping for Joon wasn't an intended effect, probably.
Don't people joke that Shion is "Blue Mokou" it must be a freudian subconscious thing (So we must investigate into Doremy's role in all this)
>I did, once! She had a vein sticking out from right under her ribs... Yich.
Maybe you should gen her but put a paper bag on her... whole everything. Drape a halloween ghost costume white sheet on her
No wait you do clothing translucency stuff not only would you be able to see the outline of her hot body but also the veins too
Although now I want to see you do that idea with Yuyuko, it'd suit her because the idea seems silly but then it shows its secret ero side in the right lighting
>This doesn't seem fair. What did Okuu do wrong...?
She's water-cooled, graphite moderated with a positive void coefficient. Satori is just being dutiful

Also you have enough male characters in your perverse that the idea crossed my mind since I mentioned it earlier with Satorin to do something like those Cross-Reviews from SCoOW but it's just Reimu, Marisa and another character rating guy's they've all banged
"Stage 6 - Marisa's father"
Reimu - 10
Youmu - 7
Marisa - 8 "What Youmu!? You too... when?"
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Had to gen a follow-up, this outfit... I mean, who wouldn't have done this?

>>51302962
Gotcha, that's really impressive in that case, guess I'll give it a try when I try that panoramic screenshot thing I wanted to do.

>>51303179
I guess having a reputation for running a youkai shrine WOULD give some people the wrong impression...
>Not that mistress Paicharya's helping things by making those kinds of faces.
She's still young at heart! What's wrong with that?
>The perks of sucking up to women (specifically, Mokou)
The perks of women sucking up*
>voluminous dresses on inadequately-shaped girls...
Hmmm, I happen to know just the one...
>I did, once!
SD1.5 or just a gen you didn't share? I didn't see her in the mega, though I didn't check the 1.5 folder at the time.
>Not even Tenkai could.
True, but then again, what COULD she?
>excuses I've given before
Oh, that's what you meant, right. Sorry about that, head's been in the clouds lately.

>>51303439
Lmao, this is great actually, thanks.
>plus big tits
Almost left out that important little detail huh.
>There's a new one?!??? What where why haven't I heard of this!!!
HOW haven't you? Everyone around me wouldn't keep quiet about it, but then again, I guess when you sort of surround yourself with people who consume similar media to you...
>Imagine if you will
I oughta gen all of my freckled 2hus in the same gen sometime actually, that's not a bad idea. Even if it were just a lineup-sort of gen, it'd be neat as a showcase, if anything.
Also, while not exaaactly what you were referring to, you did remind me of this old gen: https://files.catbox.moe/k1ckz1.png
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Oh and on an unrelated note: victory!
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>>51303798
If you genned any more follow-ups that outfit's eventually not gonna be in them
>SD1.5 or just a gen you didn't share? I didn't see her in the mega, though I didn't check the 1.5 folder at the time.
It's in the 1.5 folder, as a matter of fact he genned *five* Satorins! Though since none of those have vein issues I'm guessing he's talking about a more recent attempt that yicked him out?
>True, but then again, what COULD she?
She COULD eat an entire hoagie if you let her, impressive no?
>Lmao, this is great actually, thanks.
the pic is rel yet again with the new Byakuren gen
>Almost left out that important little detail huh.
I just wanted to emphasise the fact that I think the cuddling and actual sleeping part would be *that* good. I think we tend to focus a lot on the sex we don't think about the actual sleeping with part, I think characters like Miyoi or Kagerou would really shine in that department. It's like this I bet Tewi's tight bunny and millenia of honing her skills at moving her hips would make her superior to Reisen when it comes to milking you dry but who would you prefer to cuddle and comfort (goes both ways mind you) after a stressful day at work and sleep with in each other's embrace? That is the appeal of Byakuren to me, her divine bod is a secondary but very welcome point of attraction (boy I don't know why but I'm feeling extra articulate with expressing why I'm attracted to characters lately; see earlier spiel about Satori's breedability)
>I guess when you sort of surround yourself with people who consume similar media to you...
Ah that explains it Because the Last One Left is Used to It
>Even if it were just a lineup-sort of gen, it'd be neat as a showcase, if anything.
The Freckoning, I have a weird love for lineups for some reason but I wonder if it's just cause my autistic ass likes having a lot packed into a single image to look and ponder on for a while
Also I remember that one, cute barrage. I'd ask for a similar "waifuboard" but with Nina but I know now you've got Belkans- *checks notes* excuse me Sotoans- *thinks for a second* 100% Belkans to deal with so I'll leave you to it
If you think about it the Evil Eye Sigma wouldn't be too out of place considering the other flying wunderwaffen that show up in the series

>>51303799
Victory will be declared on whoever gets to 200 first >:)
Though it should be noted Furuderika would be 10 points behind if it weren't for my requests (I think I requested it once but you just seemed to have a lot of ideas for Riik on Riik interaction) then again Rika wouldn't be 10 points ahead since she's also in all of them
Sidenote: Furuderika would probably be a likely candidate for a non-2hu character request besides Yunru. She does quite a bit for me and I really really like Higurashi though at this rate the list would be getting so large I'd be insecure about posting it all at once. Maybe I should spread it out over the course of the month
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>>51272996
I forgot this was a thing, Touhou slot machine https://maribelhearn.com/slots

perfect for coming up with random ideas for scenarios
(note you can click and change the category text so you can change "cockblock" to something else)

give it a try and gen something why don't ya
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This is why youkai are usually banned from these. Among other things.

>>51303444
>sidequel
What'd that be? Same situation viewed from a different angle...?
>my mind has long since been opened in regards to Mokou yet I still see her as really cool
Well, it was a trick question in any case, because readable Mokou doujins are few and far between.
>Ironically I just said I don't even like her character that much
Words speak louder than... uh, other words.
>but wait why is Wriggle tying up Eirin?
A mystery of 17 years.
>Don't people joke that Shion is "Blue Mokou" it must be a freudian subconscious thing
That'd go a ways to explain why he's seldom seen one-on-one with Joon... yet let Shion spend a whole winter at his place. Shoot. Is this NeeToRare...?
>"What Youmu!? You too... when?"
Good question! What business would a big-titted sword-dork ever have with a humble village merchant?
That said, the idea does sound amusing, though there isn't all that much overlap to warrant a cross-review. Yyyep, it'd definitely require Marisa's dad to get around more...

>>51303798
Speaking of not delivering the right lessons!
>She's still young at heart!
Do you have a SINGLE fact to back that up?
>Hmmm, I happen to know just the one...
OTHER
TOUHOU
>I didn't see her in the mega
Litter was having a doctype HTML last night. This'n: https://litter.catbox.moe/lzeu6qze4qmsld9u.jpg
>True, but then again, what COULD she?
She's decent at reproducing the well-known personages' likenesses. You know, Reimu (kinda), Sakuya occassionally...
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>>51305067
But I like the Hong
what does this mean?
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>>51305169
She seduces you and cucks Tokiko by having her raise the children she had with you
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>>51305067
>cockblocked by Kaguya
Doesn't get much worse.
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>>51297095
>tame
What about this?
https://files.catbox.moe/u6h8g6.png
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>>51305776
It is pretty wild how broken Catbox has been recently, yeah.
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>>51305785
judging by his previous images its probably for the best that we cant see it
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>>51305131
She says that but she's already sliding the straps of her apron off (unless she's just fidgeting)
You know whose probably to blame for this speed dating thing? Miss "Romantic Fulfilment Services" herself
Fun scenario though now I got to see the POV for her table in the back there
>What'd that be? Same situation viewed from a different angle...?
I was thinking of something like that maybe just humorously genning a scenario of people having sex outdoors somewhere and through the window or in the background you can see the original scenario happening
Taking a memorable example, remember that gen of Redhead-kun and Yuuka having sex in an alleyway while Elly peeks in shocked? Yeah that scenario but we get the behind Elly POV where it reveals Nephew-kun was doing her from behind the whole time too.
Tossing out ideas here
>Words speak louder than... uh, other words.
I think the distinction I made should be obvious, hmph

>That said, the idea does sound amusing, though there isn't all that much overlap to warrant a cross-review.
I think it would be funnier to just slap names on there along with a snippet of dialogue from the 2hus to make you go "woah woah what happened THERE?!" that's why I threw out Youmu and mysteriously had her give the lower rating of the group
I put the stage level format in there as a joke but honestly maybe that could be another spark of inspiration, have it be an incident that required the characters to get with all of them and they're rating their performances and then just pick 7 characters to fill out a standard Touhou game boss list. Here's another hypothetical
"Stage 1 - Landlord-kun"
Reimu - 1 "He stunk of blood and ash and just lazily pumped it in until he finished"
Sakuya - 3 "He had a nice size and all but it seemed his heart wasn't in it, as a top notch high class lady I understand he must not have the palate to appreciate it"
Marisa - 9 "He told me to put on this green smelly shirt but the second he did he went at me like an animal! I'd rate him higher but everytime he ran his hands over my chest he'd call out another girl's name the incident must have hit him hard"

> Yyyep, it'd definitely require [Spoiler] to get around more...
The only overlap required is for Reimu and Marisa, the third person can be interchangeable, ironically having a character "get around more" only makes it more likely you'd have to reverse the format instead have it be the guys rating the girls which could work maybe for something more like Grimoire of Usami's format (where the judges change constantly)
Though if you really wanted to expand (Spoiler)'s range Ironically you could work backwards from the Nina gen and have the idea be "characters who have a relationship of somekind with Marisa" cause with how much of a social butterfly she is you got a lot of choices (let's see we got Reimu (done), Mima, Patchouli, Alice, Narumi, Sakuya?, Meiling?, Three Fairies, Nitori, Byakuren, Kosuzu, Enoko... frankly this list goes on and on!)
something to be done there with Alice, Narumi and the implied hatred / distaste for magic (spoiler) has in canon, maybe Marisa's trying to have her friends change his mind?
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>>51305963
You now what, why not. Here's a not-so-quick mock-up with shoddy portraits. Took me thrice the time to vibe this up as an editable HTML page than it would've been to hack it together in GIMP...
(NSFW text) https://files.catbox.moe/5mg49n.jpg

And here's the template if you want to make your own: https://litter.catbox.moe/lxjoew0gt872kqae.7z
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God damn AC8 is LOOOOOOOOOOONG, but also SO good... at this rate I'm gonna feel inspired enough to gen something with a jet in it, but... how the hell do I sneak a jet into a Touhou gen? A tank's one thing, but...

>>51304030
>If you genned any more follow-ups that outfit's eventually not gonna be in them
Which is why it's important to know when to stop!
>She COULD eat an entire hoagie if you let her, impressive no?
I think even a starving child could do that. Wait...
>That is the appeal of Byakuren
I get you, I just hope you don't mind the smell of incense in that case...
>100% Belkans to deal with so I'll leave you to it
Actually, I think I'm nearly done with the game and they've yet to so much as be mentioned! Now ain't that crazy? These new guys though, sheesh, Belka who?
>Victory will be declared on whoever gets to 200 first >:)
Nonsense, my girl has taken the lead despite Nipah's hundred-plus image headstart!
>then again Rika wouldn't be 10 points ahead since she's also in all of them
Yeah, at the end of the day it didn't really change the gaps I suppose.
>Furuderika would probably be a likely candidate for a non-2hu character request besides Yunru.
Sure, I'm not really into Higurashi, just not my thing, but she's easy enough to gen for me not to mind.

>>51305131
What the hell is SHE doing there? The blonde one! No, the one in the back!
>Do you have a SINGLE fact to back that up?
Do elderly women twirl their hairs? Didn't think so.
>OTHER TOUHOU
Now I'm REALLY gonna do it! You just wait until I find an excuse to actually make her wear something so extravagant...
>Litter
Oh, this! I think I remember seeing a version with dialogue?... Can't remember. Can't even remember how long ago you posted this...
>She's decent at reproducing
HAH! Yeah right!
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>>51306902
Jeez, I'm nowhere near a good enough writer to do one of these I think. Maybe one day when I feel particularly inspired...
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I used AI to mod IN so that everyone is Alice
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>>51307247
>Alice swings a shovel at herself for a hole night the game
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>>51306902
Amazing work and amazing lore drop? So he was butler-kun...
Really good dialogue, the Sekibanki section has my engine running I forgot how good you are at this

>>51307203
Eh? Squato?
>at this rate I'm gonna feel inspired enough to gen something with a jet in it, but... how the hell do I sneak a jet into a Touhou gen? A tank's one thing, but...
I remember there was a trend for a bit of Touhou x Ace Combat crossover pics posted to danbooru of the girls flying around with the HUD
A jet's not too far fetched with a genius engineer girl (quoting ZUN here) and the Kappa around.
I know CAS ground attack planes that are more armoured tend to get nicknamed as "flying tanks" though I think the only jet examples I know of are the A-10 and Su-25 which checking now... appear in Ace Combat 8!
So just slap some black paint, a bright red letter Sigma (or maybe something like Rho or Pi insinuating this is merely a predecessor) and you're good to go
>Which is why it's important to know when to stop!
Moderation and self-restraint, very buddhist
>I think even a starving child could do that. Wait...
Well what about two hoagies
"Tenkai-chan the Tengu Illustrator who'll out-eat even starving children"
>I get you, I just hope you don't mind the smell of incense in that case...
I love the smell of incest in the morning
>Actually, I think I'm nearly done with the game and they've yet to so much as be mentioned! Now ain't that crazy? These new guys though, sheesh, Belka who?
Impossible...
>Sure, I'm not really into Higurashi, just not my thing, but she's easy enough to gen for me not to mind.
that's okay it's not like the kinds of things I'm planning on doing with her have anything to do with Higurashi
>What the hell is SHE doing there? The blonde one! No, the one in the back!
(Nina watching from a bush with binoculars): "!- I was spotted? No way..."

>>51307207
Same. I'm still trying to figure out how you train up your skills with that kind of thing (the answer can't be p-practice can it!?)

>>51307247
Many many threads ago I proposed the idea of doing a sort of "texture pack" mod for a Touhou game as an experiment though it got shot down for reasons
I'd like to point out it never occurred to me you could have the AI do the modding for you... I was getting ready to compile Touhou modding resources to learn alongside you guys.
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>>51309205
>Many many threads ago I proposed the idea of doing a sort of "texture pack" mod for a Touhou game as an experiment
Like changing the sprites, artwork, background elements, stuff like that? With how advanced AI is now you could probably make a fully fledged new game using AI, with all of that. Of course it would probably lack "soul" if you just get the AI to do everything, so I imagine it'd be best to decide what you want to do by hand manually and what to let the AI do. That being said, I think it would be cool to at least include art in the artstyle of one of the anons ITT for the character portraits.
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>>51309250
At minimum I just wanted character portraits changed, and tbdesu my ulterior motive was just "I wanted to see how the artstyle of the anons itt would look like in an actual natural Touhou-like setting"

I'm quite adamant about keeping AI from game development honestly. Even if it's for your own fun, we've already got enough issues with games becoming super unoptimised before bringing in vibecoding
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So you've been using this one, huh?
https://files.catbox.moe/cdneik.jpg
Anim00ted alt: https://files.catbox.moe/47okpe.mp4 (sound warning)

>>51305788
I, for one, am morbidly curious.

>>51305963
>already sliding the straps of her apron off
Girl wore a sweater to a surface world date. She's got to be overheating in that thing.
>You know whose probably to blame for this speed dating thing? Miss "Romantic Fulfilment Services" herself
You don't think she put anything in the participants' tea...? I mean, it'd be one way to ensure success, but...
>makes it more likely you'd have to reverse the format instead have it be the guys rating the girls
That kinda makes me wonder which one of my girls got around the most. My sievelike memory's suggesting Seiran... Ain't that some bun?
Anyway, I'll keep the template around and maybe do another one of these as a variety thing.

>>51309205
>So he was butler-kun...
Amazing, isn't it? The Clark Kent brand beard stubble?
>I love the smell of incest in the morning
Myouren...
>(the answer can't be p-practice can it!?)
Overwhelming lust for fictional hussies helps, but it only takes you so far. For the rest of the way, there's Reading Motherfucking Books All Damn Day.

>>51307203
Somehow, that doesn't strike me as buoyant at all. Not at all. It's too... dense?
>how the hell do I sneak a jet into a Touhou gen?
Inexplicably advanced Yamawaro LARP.
>despite Nipah's hundred-plus image headstart!
Well, yeah. Sexual thoughts about pure, innocent Rika are horrible.
>What the hell is SHE doing there?
Imagine all the one-sided matches are good food at the end of the day.
>an excuse to actually make her wear something so extravagant...
Lost a bet, had to go to a speed dating event? Farmboy ゴゴゴゴing in the background optional.
>Can't remember.
Hey, that's my song! No dialogue in my internal archive, though, so you must've filled in your own filthy fantasies.
>HAH! Yeah right!
Now, now. Has anyone tested it?
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>>51309749
>that voice
maybe I don't need animated versions
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>>51309987
Fun fact: the Scarlets canonically speak English.
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>>51272996
aki sisters pampering and fucking a newly arrived shota together
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>>51309749
Catbox not working again...
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>>51309749
Catbox decided to go down just before I could view it so my reply was delayed thanks to that
Cute nudie. The animation is neat as a interquel follow-up though I can never get used to that same voice that's in every one
>Girl wore a sweater to a surface world date. She's got to be overheating in that thing.
How silly of her, she should take it off posthaste and just wear the apron
>You don't think she put anything in the participants' tea...? I mean, it'd be one way to ensure success, but...
Hope she didn't mix up the "potions for romantic fulfilment" and "potions for sexual fulfilment" again like last time. Wild orgies are the opposite of romantic
>That kinda makes me wonder which one of my girls got around the most. My sievelike memory's suggesting Seiran... Ain't that some bun?
Seiran? Yeah probably the moon buns had that erroneuous erogenous "in-heat" thing going on as the in-text excuse for why they were getting railed that time around and you did seem to favour Seiran over the others
Rumia might be a runner up
I think your penchant for keeping certain characters consistent means that a lot of your girls even when they're sleeping around are merely duogamous(?) instead. Someone like Hisami whose dressed like a courtesan and whose character is literally about seducing people to get tempted (and if not tempted dragged) into Hell feels ideal for sex with random new guy scenarios and yet you've only genned her with Hakurei-kun and a new Oni Kishin guy you made up specifically for Hell scenarios. Why is the character that screams "xX_VirginSlayer_Xx" not sleeping around?
>Anyway, I'll keep the template around and maybe do another one of these as a variety thing.
That'll be fun, could lead to some scenario ideas too
Wonder how well it'd work in reverse (i.e guys rating the same girl they've slept with)
>For the rest of the way, there's Reading Motherfucking Books All Damn Day.
and therein lies the crux of the issue cause I'm highly demotivated to the point where watching animes and movies is difficult now, books are even tougher
Plus the books I like to read don't do much with Erotica so it wouldn't do much to help me there either
Wonder if I can find some list of "good erotica for pervert men" or at the very least "good erotic fanfiction for pervert men" it's important it's good quality.
Although its not like this is advice I don't already know in-fact I'm pretty sure I said this exactly to Rika guy when he was talking about doing a story thing at some point. Still though even doing something like playing the newest Ace Combat advances your story writing skils although your new skills may be more aerial combat orientated

>Somehow, that doesn't strike me as buoyant at all. Not at all. It's too... dense?
You're one to talk, I complimented your Kappa's builds for being dwarven / engineer / sumo-esque but those aren't really swimmer builds
>Inexplicably advanced Yamawaro LARP.
I guarantee they do that and it's such a blast. Bet they partner up with the Kappa to like flood a nice chasm somewhere Roman Colosseum style to serve as a sea to put their aircraft carriers in too
Side Tangent: I feel like if Rika were ever to return as a character it would be as a Yamawaro since keeping her as a human would make contradictions
>Lost a bet, had to go to a speed dating event? Farmboy ゴゴゴゴing in the background optional.
I feel like the first ever Kirisame Magic Shop speed dating event would be how they met though I'd imagine they'd all be much younger. Coincidentally same day the potion mixup happened, little Marisa started the day as a girl and ended that day as a woman standing proudly on top a pile of spent men ready to take Gensokyo by storm with fire in her eyes.
>Now, now. Has anyone tested it?
I'll bravely volunteer... if I don't come back, don't cry for me
Real Talk: I think Tenkai being the exception to the lewding rule only made me more attracted to her because if there's one thing I love it's forbidden fruit. Although I wouldn't go so far to push my luck and request or post anything publically of it even on my birthday or whatever.

>>51310574
It's up right after you said that lol
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Hmm chose to talk about finding Tenkai attractiive and my post number ends in the trips of the beast
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Infantry support was required in order for the tank to safely advance.

>>51307247
Finally, a Touhou game for Shinki!

>>51309205
>Touhou x Ace Combat crossover pics
Got all of those saved, love them. I got one or two ideas for gens in the meantime, just gotta see whether I'm skilled enough for them or not.

>>51309749
>Anim00ted
Flan that is NOT your line!
>Inexplicably advanced Yamawaro LARP.
Honestly a really good idea based on the WaHH stuff were it not for the fact that, y'know, they can probably already fly...
>Sexual thoughts about pure, innocent (...) are horrible.
Ehhh? We're on /jp/, though...
>Lost a bet, had to go to a speed dating event?
I am NOT sneaking NTR into my Rika gens! Shoo!
>Now, now. Has anyone tested it?
Too big of a societal risk, why risk your bloodline like that?

>>51310666
>Ace Combat advances your story writing skills
I can't tell whether you're serious or not with this, Ace Combat dialogue is genuinely terrible (and that's what makes it so good, I couldn't possibly hope to match the fine line of cheese and unfiltered cinema that they walk on)
>Bet they partner up with the Kappa
As involuntary target practice?
>I feel like if Rika were ever to return as a character it would be as a Yamawaro
Bah, that'd get rid of a large appeal of the character for me. Her being human is what makes her so interesting, she's a massive outlier. One of Touhou's "Forbidden fruits", as you put it.
>speed dating event would be how they met
Not sure if I ever shared this, but my headcanon for the two meeting has always been the following: Farmboy-kun buys an outside-world device from Kourindou to aid with farmwork, but it stops working. He wants it repaired, but the Kappa would charge too much for it, so he asks around for alternatives. Someone mentions a workshop run by a human in the woods that offers cheaper prices, though they warn him that the human in charge has a temper, to say the least. Farmboy-kun goes there, meets Rika, who seemingly rants about everything while she fixes his device, including Farmboy-kun himself, who interprets it as banter and returns in kind. Rika gets caught off guard by this, some more back-and-forth exchanges occur, insults turn into questions, assumptions turn into challenges, flirting ensues. Before this, I had another scenario that was just "You're going for a walk in the woods and Rika gets her tank stuck on a ditch trying to avoid running you over, she guilt trips you a bit for it so you put all that brawn to use and try to get her tank out, flirting ensues.", but I like the former better.
>I'll bravely volunteer..
Bold of you to assume you'd get past the other crow tengu. Or the wolf tengu. Or the kappa. Or the yamawaro.
>I think Tenkai being the exception to the lewding rule only made me more attracted to her
That's human nature for you, I suppose. Not like the girl herself has any attractive features!

>>51310674
"Something-something AI is the work of the devil and will kill us all." - Nina.
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"Ssoooo? Is it good? It's super erotic, right?"
"It's really difficult to self insert into... Also, why's it all poems?"
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My Chinese girlfriend has completely ruined takeout for me. I'll suggest ordering Chinese food and she'll look at the menu for 2 seconds and be like "I can make this."
Then, 30 minutes later there are 4 dishes on the table and somehow they taste better than at the restaurant. Great for my bank account, Terrible for getting out of washing dishes
You met me at a very Chinese time in my life.
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>>51313115
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>>51305785
My fault. It was working when I posted it.
>>51305788
Any suggestions aside from ditching takorin/starraisins?

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This time I made her more than 3 meters tall. The human is normal scaled.
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Ain't Mondays great? Don't answer, have a motherly inspection:
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>>51310666
>I can never get used to that same voice that's in every one
FYI, this is 90% a skill issue. Minimax H3 takes very meticulous instructions, down to specific timestamps, and accepts visual and audio references. I'm just not invested enough to find an extract those for a one-off. So, what you hear are the "defaults." You can totally make it a whole project, though. The capacity's there.
... Also, my gold standard for Touhou voices' (M1) Flan is kind of meh, so... yeah.
>mix up the "potions for romantic fulfilment" and "potions for sexual fulfilment"
Implying there's a difference beyond the marketing.
>you did seem to favour Seiran over the others
N-Not my fault Ringo's got such a weak presence...!
>Why is the character that screams "xX_VirginSlayer_Xx" not sleeping around?
Uhhh, it's that thing wot all the kids're into these days. Irony, that was it.
>Plus the books I like to read don't do much with Erotica
Hm. Well. If it's any consolation, I never read much erotica, either. In fact, kind of despise the weebsphere's go-to that is HVNs. So it's more like I picked up a knack for general writing first - then wrote the erotica that nobody'd written for me. Analogous to stuff I do these days. Seldom saw anybody put effort into their SD1.5slop, so I did and learned. Seen altogether too little of X-character-interpretation, so I made my own. And so on.
It's a desire to fill a hole. Which, when you think about it, is apt to possess in this endeavour.

>>51312316
I see the conveniently omitted naming of the occasion and call it out. Hey, but at least you've found the outfit to invariably display those chest freckles.
>they can probably already fly...
And shoot mind bullets. That's telekinesis, Kyle. Hasn't stopped them using intermediary delivery devices, though.
>We're on /jp/, though...
Which is why you should've recognised the copypasta.
>I am NOT sneaking NTR into my Rika gens!
Ah. But if she ends up going out with Farmboy-kun anyway, that'd be tantamount to NTRing all those icky dudes who thought they could score at a speed dating event. That's not acceptable?
>Farmboy-kun buys an outside-world device from Kourindou to aid with farmwork
>Rika, who seemingly rants about everything while she fixes his device
Farming implement... repairable by Rika... Farmboy-kun found a Leman Russ?!

>>51312716
It was the style at the time, wasn't it? Including the particular genre...

>>51313115
What a coincidence. My mum lives in this CHINESE space museum. I guess you'll hear about it on the CHINESE news, and you can say you were there yesterday.
It was nice chatting.

>>51313390
If you're genuinely into modern Starraisins' bodily proportions, I don't reckon you can ditch that meme.
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>>51312316
You know for a series so intrinsically intwined with alcoholism I'm surprised 99% of the smut doesn't involve drunkeness at all...
then again the series is so intwined with alcoholism all the characters are shown handling their drink like champs, Rika excluded.
>were it not for the fact that, y'know, they can probably already fly...
Yeah but can you fly at high speeds and carry hundreds of pounds worth of missiles and heavy ordinance? I thought not
besides jetfights will always have it's own intrinsic appeal
>Ehhh? We're on /jp/, though...
I think the joke is that your Rika isn't the "pure and innocent" one also copypasta
that being said I don't know what he's on about I think Furude Rika would be an absolute semen demon to outclass even Star Sapphire
>I can't tell whether you're serious or not with this, Ace Combat dialogue is genuinely terrible
You can learn something even from bad things. It's why I played Bioshock Infinite despite many warnings and boy did I learn a lot...
Anyways even if the dialogue is bad you can still learn something about putting together a story from it
>Bah, that'd get rid of a large appeal of the character for me. Her being human is what makes her so interesting, she's a massive outlier. One of Touhou's "Forbidden fruits", as you put it.
I know and that's why she's interesting to me too but I'm just saying that's what will happen if she comes back
>Bold of you to assume you'd get past the other crow tengu. Or the wolf tengu. Or the kappa. Or the yamawaro.
I'd win. (and if not I'd ask Nina to fight them for me, she's an extra stage boss)
>That's human nature for you, I suppose. Not like the girl herself has any attractive features!
I'm honestly attracted to features a lot of people would write off as unattractive, I like an imperfect looking girl more than a supermodel looking girl
>"Something-something AI is the work of the devil and will kill us all." - Nina.
More like impregnating Tenkai would give birth to the Anti-youchrist (so Toyosatomimi no Miko?)
I guess she wouldn't approve then

>>51313390
>Any suggestions aside from ditching takorin/starraisins?
To be real with you there's really nothing you can do as it comes down to personal preference, that anon presumably and I are just not into the exaggerated proportions thing. It's perfectly normal to be into it (hell I almost feel like the majority of people who draw porn seem to be into it) I think even science and research backs it up
As for the giantess thing I'm a lolicon so I always prefer my girls tinier rather than bigger (though I'll concede maybe I haven't found anything styled more to my preference yet)

>>51314375
And Reimu's just letting her?
>Implying there's a difference beyond the marketing.
Romantic and Sexual attraction are different things. I'll be honest I really want to request more kissy romance stuff but I always get more flustered about it compared to requesting outright smut https://youtu.be/m4zYgC6BBaA
I'm a grown man but I become a schoolgirl when romance is involved
>N-Not my fault Ringo's got such a weak presence...!
I thought she was good in Thomas the Tank Engine
>Uhhh, it's that thing wot all the kids're into these days. Irony, that was it.
No that's Tung Tung Tung Sahur, Kpop Demon Hunters and the Sixty Seven thing
Honestly I don't feel bad about being super into FNAF anymore
>Hm. Well. If it's any consolation, I never read much erotica, either. In fact, kind of despise the weebsphere's go-to that is HVNs. So it's more like I picked up a knack for general writing first - then wrote the erotica that nobody'd written for me.
At first it wasn't much of a consolation but the more I thought about it, it became a relief cause it meant I didn't have to go sift through bad erotica for writing inspiration and can just read books I actually like
>Ah. But if she ends up going out with Farmboy-kun anyway, that'd be tantamount to NTRing all those icky dudes who thought they could score at a speed dating event. That's not acceptable?
Listen I like Netori but the end result would be indistinguishable from NTR unless heavily dialogued to specify otherwise. Nice try
>Farming implement... repairable by Rika... Farmboy-kun found a Leman Russ?!
a lot of Sherman Tanks were actually converted into tractors following WW2
Although the tank to begin with was inspired by Holt Tractors, so maybe Farmboy-kun has one of those. I feel like in a place like Gensokyo having something like an incredibly outdated Holt Tractor would still be incredibly bougie for a farmer to have, no?
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>>51314375
10/10 it should give Junko her son back
When can I have a taste of it~
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>>51315150
>I feel like in a place like Gensokyo having something like an incredibly outdated Holt Tractor would still be incredibly bougie for a farmer to have
Who would they buy the fuel from? The Yorigamis? Would the Okina/Yuuma conglomerate allow exporting the oil outside of the blood pools? Or did everyone just scramble and hoard before and during the Gouyoku Ibun incident?
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>>51312716
Now I'm really curious about what a yaoi haiku would look like in Gensokyo.

>>51313115
Your girlfriend's missing a finger, dude. Cooking accident? No good with a knife? Starting to doubt this cook's skills...

>>51314375
What is even going on he- oooooh Junko saggers...
Couldn't bring yourself to gen that tabbard, huh? I remember that Okina gen rant...
>90% a skill issue
Ever thought about just reading the lines yourself and AI-ifying them with RVC-GUI? There's a bunch of pre-trained voices and you can even change their pitch, etc if you're not satisfied. Training an M1 Flan voice model might even be an option, actually, considering M1 is just talk with no background music/noises (aside from the laugh tracks)... not that I know anything about training voice models. LoRAs are a bitch as is!
>Ringo's got such a weak presence...!
And AWFUL shorts! She should learn from Nareko.
>I see the conveniently omitted naming of the occasion and call it out.
You mean why this is happening to begin with? Didn't really give it any thought, to be fair, could be anything from Farmboy-kun's birthday (no I'm not self-inserting mine in there) to a dare or just a simple argument.
>Hasn't stopped them using intermediary delivery devices, though.
Suppose you're right, fighting game Nitori is a thing after all... unfortunately I did already come up with a gen idea, though. Just gotta stop playing the game...
>Which is why you should've recognised the copypasta.
I swear to god I've either been hit with a terrible bout of selective amnesia or this copypasta has SOMEHOW eluded me all these years.
>That's not acceptable?
Hmm... I'll see what I can come up with I guess. Still a weird scenario to begin with though, like, why would you ask your partner to go to a speed dating event?...
>Farmboy-kun found a Leman Russ?!
She can fix more than just tanks, y'know!?

>>51315150
>Rika excluded.
Rookie crewman mistake, really. Clearly he failed to acknowledge the fact that the tank ran on gasoline (tea) and poured diesel (sake) in it instead.
>and carry hundreds of pounds worth
Well, we don't know just how heavy Takane's box is...
>you can still learn something about putting together a story from it
I get what you mean, I was half-joking with that statement. For all intents and purposes, AC8's story is actually really good, though that's nothing new for the franchise. I wish I could have whatever they're having... all those games and still such a great narrative when you put it all together...
>(and if not I'd ask Nina to fight them for me, she's an extra stage boss)
My brotha.
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>>51315246
Hold me baby, are you ready okay~
>Now I'm really curious about what a yaoi haiku would look like in Gensokyo.
https://youtu.be/ybkqvKKpBPQ?t=7
>Hmm... I'll see what I can come up with I guess. Still a weird scenario to begin with though, like, why would you ask your partner to go to a speed dating event?...
Speed double dating event? You get paired up with an already existing couple for a double date maybe I dunno
>She can fix more than just tanks, y'know!?
Fantastic Optometrist, might be better at it than Eirin
>Rookie crewman mistake, really. Clearly he failed to acknowledge the fact that the tank ran on gasoline (tea) and poured diesel (sake) in it instead.
What a lightweight! Now I wonder what would happen if you couldn't stop her from chugging an entire bottle of vodka
>I wish I could have whatever they're having... all those games and still such a great narrative when you put it all together...
I do this with Vidya anyways more on the technical gameplay aspects but it also applies to other story based things. I go through it a second time with my thinking cap on and try studying it. Not from any professional perspective but on a personal one "what bits worked / appealed to me" and then asking "why" and trying to find an answer
its a worthwhile experience

>My brotha.
In this scenario we aren't together but are still friends, what you think I'd be going after Tenkai of all people if I got everything I need right here in the comfort of my improvised lakeside shack... nooo and even then I might go for Yumemi or Shizuha first over Tenkai
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>>51316779
Cute, what model?
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>>51316822
NaiV5
I can't make this shitty model make decent looking pixiv-style anime art to save my life. I think it's just worse than 4.5.
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Late Rumbaday Rumba:
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A bit squeezed out. I'll blah-di-blah next post. Thread?
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>>51317009
Nice, more Miko bal-
>NTR
nevermind I am disgusted by this shit
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Gonna drop this because I don't want to clog up the next thread on arrival and we still got a couple pages more to go so plenty of time for people to read this and come up with ideas

As a proud follower of the two best goddesses in Gensokyo I'm disappointed this thread isn't full of Fall energy! This needs some correction
Before I start I'm gonna give out my list of characters I feel like are Fall themed or have some connection to the season
Aki Sisters - Represent the season, very obvious pick
Momiji - Autumn leaf on her shield plus her stage theme is literally titled Fall of Fall ~ Autumnal Waterfall, plus the birdies have been getting too much attention methinks
Nemuno Sakata - She's found in the Fall themed stage of HSiFS and I mean just look at her outfit colours
Luna Child - the fairy of Fall
Aya - Alright she's the fall themed player character for HSiFS and she holds a leaf fan, it'd be dishonest of me not to include her
Wriggle - her theme song is titled "Wriggling *Autumn* Moon ~ Mooned Insect"
Kokoro - technically speaking more "Halloween" esque but that falls under Fall
Ringo - "September Pumpkin" plus she's dressed in the colours... technically
Tsukumo sisters - 1.) pure vibe choice and 2.) in 1973 composer Toru Takemitsu released a piece titled "Autumn" that was composed to be led by two instruments, the Biwa and the Shakuhachi. Benben's a Biwa and Shakuhachi kinda sounds like Yatsuhashi https://youtu.be/cWPucSiLVuk
Elly - purely going off vibes, the dark red + the scythe brings to mind Autumnal colours and harvesting plus more Elly is good in any case... looking it up Apples are autumn fruits so um there you go

SFW
-Aki Sisters hosting a pumpkin carving contest (inspired by this vid https://youtu.be/IZkZmQLQMVo admittedly) among the participants you can see are Nemuno (who has chopped hers in half), Kokoro (who has cut her skirt shape into it), Ringo (who's carved a little bunny face into it) and the Tsukumos (Benben is watching nervous as Yatsuhashi is using her plectrums to do the carving, the pumpkin much like their instruments is traditional)
-Tsukumo Sisters playing music for a small casual crowd out in nature, beautiful fallen leaves all around. Something much more contemplative than an exciting Prismriver performance
-A cold Ringo wrapped up in her blankets sipping from a steaming hearty bowl of pumpkin soup while it rains outside
-Cirno, Lily, Larva and Luna all standing together doing cute energetic poses shouting out the name of their representative seasons (Luna though looks more like she's shouting out what she's doing at the moment)
-Aya and Momiji walking on a stone path through the forest chatting and taking in the Autumn scenery before Kokoro jumps out from behind a tree and startles specifically Aya (cause she looks like a Scarecrow that's why har har)
-Characters cooking dishes in cozy settings (Shizuha cutting vegetables for a hearty veggie soup while her sister takes a nap exhausted from work in the background, Ringo making some Dango at home for herself https://youtu.be/oR2Hfw1cqZg , Momiji grilling herself some meat over a camp fire while on watch, Nemuno tasting some stew from a ladle, Elly taking an Apple pie out of the oven, that kind of thing)
-A Fall Market scene of Ringo, Seiran, Mystia, Mokou and Minoriko out in the market selling stuff, with other 2hus as passerbys
-Elly and Ringo doing some apple picking
-a character or more from the list at a Hakurei Shrine party drinking Apple Cider and having a laugh with their friends while visibly tipsy
-Kokoro standing with the moon behind her lighting her up looking at the camera sweetly and using her fingers to push her cheeks up into a smile (then Koishi walks into frame and she pushes it down into a frown)

SFW technically but kinda lewd
-Aki Sisters wearing leaf bikinis. Minoriko looks more notably nervous than calm Shizuha
-Aya doing that one finger selfie challenge but using her Tengu fan to cover herself instead
-Tsukumo Sisters in Lingerie doing the come hither gesture to the camera
-Cuddling really close to Nemuno for warmth at night
-Aki Sisters hugging the same person and giving them a double kiss on both cheeks

NSFW
-Aki Sisters getting too drunk on Apple cider and getting raunchy with someone out in public (trying to rub on them an such)
-Ringo milking someone off onto a slice of pumpkin pie saying she forgot the cream
-Aki sisters nude leaning on someone, with an arm wrapped underneath both of them giving their asses a grope there's a small panel showing they've both been bred
-Momiji looking very mad giving someone whose smeared peanut butter on their cock a lickjob
-orgy with all the characters idk
Feel perfectly free to tweak whatever to your tastes and come up with ideas of your own
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>>51317216
Oh gods someone kill me I forgot the >>51272996 what a rube...

>>51317009
oh hey after asking many times I finally got a possession gen, nice touch on the ribbon there
The way she's hanging off him and the headpat, Ouuugh fuck you put me in a cunny mood now
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>>51272996
Alice losing the Miss Makai competition to her mother.
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/jp/'s as slow as ever and we're already on page 9 anyways so... new thread:

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