Previous thread: >>51282744Paste (Updated 2026.10.12): https://rentry.co/aah2nbq9/edit[New to the Game? Read first, Ask later]Wiki:EN: https://en.kancollewiki.netJP: https://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/KanColle STAFF Twitter: https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFFC2 STAFF Twitter: https://twitter.com/C2_STAFFAir superiority calculator/fleet builder:http://kancollecalc.jp/air_supremacy.htmlhttp://kancolle-calc.net/deckbuilder.htmlCombat Mechanics:JP: https://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/?%C0%EF%C6%AE%A4%CB%A4%C4%A4%A4%A4%C6EN: https://en.kancollewiki.net/CombatEN: https://en.kancollewiki.net/Category:Game_MechanicsDrop and construction statistics: https://db.kcwiki.cn/drop/Fit gun: https://en.kancollewiki.net/Combat/Overweight_Penalty_and_Fit_Gun_BonusEquipment upgrade values: https://en.kancollewiki.net/ImprovementLBAS values (as of 2025.11.13): https://files.catbox.moe/597haw.pngLBAS simulator: https://noro6.github.io/kc-web/#/Useful Akashi upgrades table: https://akashi-list.me/Useful composition/damage set-up tool: https://jervis.vercel.app/enQuest tracking tool (For older quest chains): https://tsunkit.net/quests/#/searchEvent Guides and Info:https://zekamashi.net/https://kitongame.com/https://kancolle.doorblog.jp/Ranking:Current server ranks: https://senka.suEN ranking guide: https://en.kancollewiki.net/User:Minhfongboy/KC_Phase_2_RankingAnalysis tool: https://bonodere.famluro.es/ranking/ranking-toolViewers:Electronic Observer (EN): https://github.com/gre4bee/ElectronicObserverElectronic Observer (JP) (deprecated): https://github.com/andanteyk/ElectronicObserverPoi (for non-windows users): https://github.com/poooi/poiAsset Cache Proxy: https://github.com/Tibowl/KCCacheProxyAnon's museum blueprints: https://files.catbox.moe/o82d1a.rarI'm going to Japan, anything going on?: https://pastebin.com/AaggZyyTUSS Kidd has completed her overhaul: https://x.com/ParksStep3/status/2020488099579511190News- Game Updates: https://en.kancollewiki.net/Game_Updates- The October 14th update will see the return of the Pumpkin Festival mini-event. During the event, complete various quests to receive pumpkins. Turn in pumpkins to receive rare equipment or use them as fodder for luck improvement. See the event page for detailed info: https://en.kancollewiki.net/Pumpkin_Festival- Kitakami Kai San has been introduced. She has 5 slots and can now equip landing craft and seaplanes.- Fusou and Yamashiro Kai Ni Ho have been introduced. They now have 5 slots and can now equip landing craft.- New permanent and limited quests relating to the ship updates have been added.- A new item called Hanger Expansion has been added. It can be used to increase the plane capacity of a carrier's slot. It is in early implementation and will become available to BBV and CAV in the fall.- 5-6 has been implemented. To unlock each month, you must clear 5-5. This map contains 1 TP phase and 2 boss phases. Clearing the map rewards 225 ranking points, 4 Development Materials, and 1 Arsenal Resource. - Akashi improvement has been updated to use the new Arsenal Resource which can remove all improvements from an item making it available to be used as improvement material. Various Akashi Arsenal updates have also been added.- Multiple limited drops have been added including Heian Maru and South Dakota. See https://en.kancollewiki.net/Drop_List#Limited_Time_Drops for full list.- August ranking rewards have been distributed. They are the Daihatsu Landing Craft [Panzer variants], Type 1 Land-based Attack Aircraft (Nonaka Squadron), Type 0 Fighter Model 22 (251 Air Group), Type 0 Fighter Model 21 (Tainan Air Group), and Type 0 Fighter Model 62 Kai (Skilled/Night Fighter-bomber).- As of October 16, 2025 the game has entered Flight II-A mode.- A VPN/Proxy is no longer required to log into the game. You will still need one if you access the game via DMM.- As of mid October 2023 The terms and conditions for the DMM games platform have changed. After 1 year of inactivity games on the platform will have the right to delete your account information if they wish to. Put simply IF YOU GO ONE YEAR WITHOUT LOGGING INTO SHIPTHIS YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO SEE YOUR SHIPS EVER AGAIN.- The following ships will receive another remodel at some point in the future:-->Kai-II: multiple Type A DDs-->Kai-III: Ooi-->Kai-IV: Shigure
my beloved titwife
I don't think anyone saw this coming.
>>51330578Since when do shipgirls commit war crimes? That Abyss ship is surrendering and no longer a threat
>>51330793Is she also getting the anti-imp capabilities?
>>51330822Not yet, but for some reason they already announced she'll get a Kai Ni D in a future update.
How do you pick who gets luck modded? Is there a guide somewhere?
Burger ships really know how to Halloween
Which maps have the new limited drops?
Yay, another fun game of Guess the Quest Prereqs
This background is nice
>>51331758She talks like a rape victim.
Leave it to the other Suzu to complement Suzuya's Morrigan cosplay.
Is Shuusui the most valuable thing this time around?
>>51332081Also the first chance to get the ultra skilled deckhands since 2021.
>>51332156Its an interesting choiceBut I still need a ton of fodder to upgrade it
I used to play a decade ago when the game had come out, and I've been feeling nostalgic so I've returned on a new account. Do you have any thoughts on how to spread my resources between LSC and levelling my ships?
>>51332280LSC isn't really worth it unless there's a specific ship you really want.Most ships are drops, so I'd prioritize leveling and building up your fleet.
I love their hair. Their lower hair.
>>51330818>Since when do shipgirls commit war crimes? That Abyss ship is surrendering and no longer a threatAnon...
>>51331777Hamanami is for gentle love only
Konishi really likes this pose for damaged CG, huh?
>>51330818They have been seen selling abyssal POWs into slavery before...
>>51332648but overall it's a pretty disappointing damaged art
>>51332689They're all like that these days. At least her fang is cute.
>>51332698Kiri's is sexy. But I guess it's because they've been sitting on that for years.
oh great I can't do the second weekly because I don't have the right ships
>>51332474All her admirals said the same to her, she already knows what will happen once they get drunk.
>>51332758She looks like the type that dies during childbirth, moe.
>>51332758>making destroyers cryNagato will get you.
>>51332934This was just a trap for a distracted Nagato. Just as planned.
>>51330818>Since when do shipgirls commit war crimes?Anon...
>>51332740Welcome to the club. Though you can still get Gamby, Johnston and Minneapolis as drops so get grinding.
Houshou's hairy crotch
>succubus SuzuyaJust like in my doujins
>>51333529orl dey e'rry dey
>>51333534Was her butt always this big? Did she pad it?
>>51332934She's too shy to cry in public about it, so Nagato never found not even after Hamanami died during childbirth.This is the fate for many destroyers.
>>51333701That's why I only do it with destroyers with wide, child bearing hips.
>>51333701What actually happens when you scrap a shipgirl
muh dick
>>51333529
They really need to revamp the inter design UI.
So I've got my first DLC at max star, who should convert it? I already have a T89 and R35 but no Toku or armed DLC.
Do you have the Gunboat? It's nice to have at least one anti-imp landing craft for Amagiri. Even if the accuracy boost is nonexistant in my experience.
>>51334014which one is that exactly, this one?
>>51334023This one. Either of the two increases the chance to hit imps.
>>51334026I don't have it yet but quest F104 is around the corner, once I collect enough rocket launchers to upgrade the T89. And I'll get a Toku from Kinu's quest eventually. But then one from >>51334023 is only available by upgrading DLC, the question is, is it worth it compared to the others?
>>51333741Kasumi is a bad pick, her shitty personality leads her to be an awful mother so you gotta abort the baby in any way you can.
>>51334141
>>51334144
Is it worth it to take the Shuusui if I already got 4 Jet interceptors?
>>51331758"A city in northern europe that a certain destroyer was named after"They really did use Visby for that background. The artwork shows the triangular stone shape of Saint Karin's Church from a different angle.
>>51334350
>>51332758
>>51334287Nice tidies
>>51334450Hayanami ended up impregnating her a few minutes later.
>>51334141>>51334144>>51334149Headquarters, we need a new admiral. The last one had an ... accident.
>>51330818Since the beginning, Anon.Don't forget, we've had Tone and Aoba since the very start.
>>51333392Should've put Arashi instead of Chikuma, she never committed any war crimes.
>>51334006The quest UI has a much more pressing need, I'd say.
>>51334511
How good is SK radar? Is it worth choosing over pumpkins?
>>51334525What did Arashi do? Chikuma was committing war crimes in the Indian Ocean with Tone and Aoba.
>>51334845It's a good air radar, but its AA is only slightly higher than dual purpose radars like the GFCS and FuMO. Also you can get them for free from a yearly.
>>51334893Picked up a downed American airman during the Midway, interrogated him, and then threw him overboard IIRC.
>>51334973That was Makigumo, who is in that fleet. Arashi was the one that screwed over the carriers by returning to them at full steam after driving off a sub, letting the dive bombers follow her to the fleet.
Ufufu
With luck modding, is it better to first get some high-ish luck girls al the way to 50, or improve someone like Amagiri who won't get to 50 for a while?
>>51335257Also thighs
>>51335310Remove pantsu
>>51335310oohhhhhhh
>>51335278Start with ones that benefit the most (Mogami, Yahagi, etc.) then high-ish luck DDs (Kasumi, Ayanami, etc.)
>>51335278In these days of GRTL double rolls Destroyer Luck isn't as important as it once was.
>>51335817Neither of those are K2 yet, but luck survives remodeling right?
>>51335968This is what I was waiting for!
>>51335980Yes, though giving Yahagi 32 luck will take a while, she should be kai ni by the time you're done.
I was going to complain about gold ru but then I realized I forgot to equip langley with planes. I think I'm still going to complain anyway though.
Why isn't Tama in any of the quests, she has a cute costume too you know?!
Any day now she'll get her final remodel...
So is Suzuya the uncontested best succubus in the fleet?
>>51337785She's good, but there are bigger semen demons around.
>>51337785How many others are there even?!
>>51338038not that anon but Kashima is certainly there
Why does Langley have a battery charger on her belt?
The only one who comes close is Johnston I think. But she's more vampire than succubus?
>>51338082So she can commit battery on abyssals.
>>51338053Kashima doesn't even have a Halloween costume on, so she's disqualified.>>51337785>>51338102Although there's a bunch of vampires, like Johnston there's not many literal succubi. Grecale is a devil to pair with Maestrale's angel, and that counts.
>>51334893She was only there for it. Didn't actually do anything, Tone and Aoba were the ones that beheaded the prisoners.>>51334973>>51335018Arashi did it too. She picked up Ensign Wesley Osmus of the Yorktown, and then struck him in the back of the head with a fire axe, then threw him overboard.
Wasn't there one ship where the crew executed captured airmen without the Captain's permission and the Captain was pissed because he was convinced their spirits would now haunt the vessel?
Fubuki is cute.
>>51338209Possibly the Akikaze, but that was 60 civilians. No idea if they'll ever add the Minekazes though.
>>51338209>>51338293Alright after a bit of searching it was likely Makigumo.
Bitches don't know about my beef stroganoff.
>>51338038with or without a halloween costume?
How about a healing-type succubus
The best semen demons are the ones you don't realize until its too late.
Phew, managed to finish the weeklies barely in time, took a while to get the right girls.
Let's do out best this week as well.
FUCK YOU TIMEANDDATE FUCK YOU FIREFOXWHY THE FUCK DID A CLOCK FREEZE FOR 4 SECONDSAHHHHHHHHHHHAHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>513402272 seconds late, you're getting sloppy Ooyodo-san.
I also want to get a sloppy Ooyodo-san.
Houshou is my favorite semen demon desu
>>51332156And that's totally worth taking over the skilled LBAS recon right?
>>51340639Depends on what you have.If you got none, the recon might be more useful and you can put Ise rockets in the holepunch.Not having enough LBAS recons is more of a limiter than not having enough deckhands.
>>51340760I have 3 recon planes plus one skilled one and one deck crew at +10. what is going to be more useful? how much does the skilled plane actually improve your bombers?
>>51340947Ask yourself if you would use all those recon planes in your LBAS, or all those deck crews in your fleet.Range can be extended by other means like Taitei or CatalinaCarriers can equip Ise rockets or dameconsThere's really no right answer.Dunno how much they improve, heard it was 1.15
can't even get to the fucking boss of 4-3. I don't know what's going on it's not a hard map.
>>51330818Didn't you see Janus? They need to be shot in order to be cured of their Abyssalness.
>>51340947The main question is which ones will get event bonuses, and we don't know. In my case I already have two skilled planes and a mosquito, so I took the deck hands.1.12x pre-cap attack power modifier for the unskilled type 2 land-based recon and Mosquito PR MK.IV, and 1.15x for the skilled one. Skilled has 3 accuracy, while unskilled and mosquito have 2, which increases the Contact damage modifier from 1.17x to 1.20x. For fighter power, unskilled is 1.15x, skilled is 1.18x, and Mosquito PR Mk.IV is 1.18x. Skilled increases base range from 8 to 9 and adds +1 more range to planes with base ranges of 2, 6, or 8 as shown in the Range Extenders table in the link, but Mosquito PR Mk.IV has the same ranges as skilled. Taitei and Catalina have superior ranges.https://en.kancollewiki.net/Land-Based_Air_Squadron#Combat_Radius
In what situations would you use the LB recons? Seems like they would be mainly useful for fighter sorties, because they bring some FP on their own unlike Taitei?I already have a Taitei from the summer event but neither deck hands nor LB recons. So I'd probably pick the deck hands too?
is the orange rocket plane better than any of the non-rocket planes for air defense?
>>51342751https://en.kancollewiki.net/Land-Based_Air_Squadron#Land-Based_Planes
>>51342751It's only needed for events at medium/hard where normal fighters won't reach the high altitude bombers. You generally need at least two to pass LBAS AS gimmicks on medium, and three+ on hard. You can get another one from the KagaK2 questline.
>>51344406Prone bone with pressing the head into the pillow
>24 hours between postsCanThis is truly reclining.
>>51345642Too busy staring at botes without pants on to post.
>>51345642PHP got catbombed, pls understand
>>51345620Sex with Houshou.While her daughters watch.
is dmm still down?
>>51345642while you were thinking about that "joke" for 24 hours, I was actually playing kancolle.
What version of PHP is Tanaka code running?
>>51345924Probably whatever was the most recent one in 2013.
>>51345924The last one that supports XP.
>>51345924it was only DMM that was down, not kancolle servers, so... none
i miss my botes
DMM is back up
The unannounced downtime had turned my girls to drink
F A T
Aah the wiki is still down, I don't know which girls can go on what pumpkin quest aah
>>51347297You should know this by now.
>>51347297You don't use the EN patch?
I am happy to see generals are still alive bros!How's the game doings, any big update? I mean actual changes to game mechanics? Serious question, since the last event I cleared was... in 2023 apparently. Here's a sima.
>>51347917Do you remember Smokescreens? They're the biggest new thing. Second would be Nankai, a Food Supply Ship who can passively sparkle like Akashi passively repairs. Queen Elizabeth Touch and Richelieu Touch got added, there's other QOL improvements like being able to see your fleet's Fighter Power in game.
>>51347824Couldn't make it work with poi, and now I don't really need it. In-game the quest texts are always vague or confusing anyway.
>>51347925Huh. So not much has changed. I remember smoke very well as well as euro-touches. So basically only sparkler Akashi and some minor QoL. Thank you.
>>51348976plus a bunch of new consumables because everyone had too many of the old ones
>>51348604I want to put my hands on her hips...
>>51349136...then bring my knees in tight...
Do Johnston and Fletcher really drop in 2-3? I've been farming that map for days, and it feels like I got the whole drop pool multiple times except those two.
>>51349238I've gone there 97 times in the past six months, and Fletcher dropped twice (June and July) but no Johnston.
>>51349238I've gotten them and Gambier Bay a few times from that map. Sammy B supposedly drops there too but I've never had any luck in dropping her there.
>kancollewiki still down>kcwiki not updated for a monthwhere do you guys even get drop info now?
>>51348604Needs reverse bunny suit.
>>51349488kiton and zkms
>>51349488jp wiki and damecon's quest helper
@rentry teitoku, maybe in the next update you could add the development planner from https://御坂美琴.cn/kc-development-tools/#/I found it super useful to optimize recipes when I need several things, since it's usually much cheaper than spamming one item's min recipe one after another.
>>51349856sure
Kaga?
>>51352353fuego?
>>51352353For shimaidon and oyakodon
>>51352950Anon, Tosa was scrapped...
>>51352960So was Graf.
>>51352967Yeah, but the Germans really needed a carrier. We don't even have Ibuki, so I doubt we'll ever get Tosa or Amagi (forma de BC).
>>51349488kcnav
Let's do our best this week as well.
>>51355246Remove pantsu
someone remind me what fleet I used for the 2-2 quest last week
>>51347297>>51349488>>51355279Oh fuck, I didn't even notice the wiki was down until now when I started doing the weeklies again. Since I had the tab open the whole time for reference, here's screenshots. I did 2-2 with Makinami, Hayanami, Hamanami, Abukuma, Mikuma AV, and Shirakumo.>>51350827The filename says I-13, but Hitomi has the longer hair on her left. This calls for a full cavity search of both subs until they admit it.
>>51355555Thanks, blessed quints. Here's the real Hitomi for your troubles....but we still need to make sure, right?
>>51355685伊14もいいよ
>>51355685Feels like he mixed up their expressions, doesn't it?Or maybe they are trying to trick us. Definitely a case for a no holes barred in-depth inspection!
Speaking of, I need to stop leveling all these SSVs, they take way too long to repair.
>>51356697You need to get them to at least 70 for full power sub touch.
I need butts in my life.
>>51356798Same
>>51356791Not like I even have materials for that, but regular SS are sufficient for it, are they not?
>>51356820The twins have a higher damage output by virtue of having a third slot.
>>51356826Oh sure, those two might be worth the weight. I tried to catch them last event but they remain elusive.>>51356798They're called sterns, did you fail Admiraling 101?
I still love sterns
>>51356866He might just be asking for the traditional 490 litre casks carried aboard warships.Nelsol's sloshy tummy after she chugs a buttload of grog...
>>51356820They are, but like the other anon said, most regular SS fall behind in damage unless you're like me and got ranking rewards for sentaka equipment twice.
Who are you using pumpkins on?I've eaten most of my dupes.
>>51357002why does fuckbucket get k4 when hornet still doesn't even have mod 2?
>>51357211Because being able to launch B-25s requires thoughtful balancing.
>>51357211Peace dividend.
>>51357002I need to bury my face there!
>>51357211
>>51357031After using up all my dupes, I started putting luck on Musashi. If you're not using dupes, you might as well go for the rare ships you can't get enough dupes of.
>>51355279>>51355555Enwiki upgraded & alive again, more or less.
How likely is it that we'll get another week of pumpkin quests? Maint wouldn't be before Monday right?
>>51358551"First half of november" is all we have for an end date right now.
>>51358532Remove swimsuit bottoms>>51358661Remove fundoshi
>>51358801>Remove fundoshiNo. What are you navy guys? Perverts?
What's a good comp for the 3-4 pumpkin quest, if I have neither Minneapolis nor Tuscaloosa? Can't manage to S-rank the boss with the south route comp.
>>51359211You can't do south?There's the heavier north routeABKM, Suzuya, GambyAV and 2CV
>>51358532fat fuck
>>51358551There are two Monthly pumpkin quests, so there'll likely be another week at the least.
here!
>>51360337
>>51360556looking good!
>>51359435ah, I didn't realize I could replace one of the standard comp's CV with CA
Is Toku the best kind of Yuubari? Seems the most flexible with otorp, even though she's slow.Or should I go with D for the oasw?
>>51361018Yes, toku is by far the best. There's enough good asw equipment now that you didn't need her for asw (though with her fit guns and some onahole modding you can get her to oasw while maintaining double attack and otorp).
New anime confirmed!
>>51361018Throw a turbine in her holepunch and she goes vroom fast
>>51361005Not complete without senpai.
>>51361018Yes, tanks, boats, opening torpedoes, and torpedo cutins are Yubari's main uses. All of those are best with toku. Extra slot turbine if necessary for speed.
Here's an example of fast Yubari overshooting the oasw requirement by 5 points, getting 4 asw from the Fubuki kai san gun, 3 from the matsu kai ni gun, 4 from the SG radar, 15 from the sonar, and the rest from escort modding.
>>51362088Or you could just give her fit guns for better stats while also avoiding Fubuki's crazy remodeling requirements.
>>51361962Technically this is her senpai. She was flagship of Nisiusen just before her (and for longer).
>>51362088>>51362421thanks, that's very helpful. Of course I don't have a rare sonar like that though, but at least I won't be modernizing her just to realize I need D after all...
>>51362905If you've gotten j-Anus or JAV-elin their stock sonar is only 2 points lower.
>>51362910oh nice, I'll add her to my leveling queue
>>51363000nice, this week's episode of Bowwatch is finally starting
>>51362421Oh right, the 14cm kai ni has +5 asw so she can get up to 107 total, or 108 if I make a second 14cm kai ni.
>>51361153>>51362078So sad how people just won't give Yuubari the DShe's very open to experimentation you know?
>>51330578>>51349856https://rentry.co/aah2nbq9/editbin updated. if the thread dies before i get home from work, update the OP with the September ranking rewards.https://en.kancollewiki.net/Ranking/Rank_Rewards
looks like we'll be here for a few days yet
Cute Wasp.
Happy birthday!
>>51365660>Hellcat with -18WIs it as tested, or with theoretical water-methanol injection like the F4U-4s got?
>>51364751Imagine if Akagi enters.Kaga would have a lot to explain.
>>51365660Will we have to upgrade our pancake to this thing?
>>51365956Pancake? No, it'll probably upgrade from F6F-5.
>>51365956Anon-kun do you still not understand how Navy aircraft designations work? The 'X' is for eXperimental, the 'F' is Fighter, the '6' means it's the 6th fighter by that manufacturer, the second 'F' is for Grumman, and the -6 means it's the 6th version of that aircraft.IJN designations are pretty similar, though with the first number being plane of that role and not manufacturer specific.
>>51365729Happy birthday!
Aaah because of the pumpkins I forgot to do all my monthly clears!Oh, it's one of the long months. Anyways...
>>51364758updated with september rewards
>>51365956Dev tweets strongly suggest it'll be obtainable in the future by converting a maxed-out Hellcat -5. In any case, the Pancake has better stats & fit bonuses with USN CVs.
Happy Halloween!
Sex
>>51367645She should ask Musashi how that works.
Huh, I just realized that the EO resets long before the monthlies... but only if you reload the game. Has it always been like that?
>>51368231yep. EO, pvp, and quests have different reset times.
>>51368329pvp is obvious but I guess I never noticed the EO because in game it stays cleared until you reload
>>51367727Owes me sweaty MILF sex while her daughter watch.
>>51368746>her daughterwhich one?
>>51368831Yes.
>>51368831All of them.But especially Hotel and her big hotel butt.
>>51366836>thigh strapThat whale is FAT
>>51368831There was supposed to be an S there. Daughters instead of daughter.So the answer is YES.
Happy Halloween
>>51369440All botes should dress like this it would be so scary.
>>51368231Yes. EOs reset with the calendar month, quests reset at the 5am daily quest reset time (except ranking point quests have to be turned in by 1400 JST), and doing EOs after the calendar month ends without refreshing means you won't get the clear rewards like medals. However, you can use the previous month's unlocked/cleared EOs to finish quests or farm. For example, if there's a monthly seasonal 5-5 quest, you can do it post-clear in both months my not refreshing.
>>51369472Agreed. Let's scare the abyssals all year long!
How many Kikka Kai do I really need?
Seems most boats have worn this costume at one time or another. Since it's so intricate and highly detailed, I wonder if it's handed down from year to year?
>>51368994>big hotel butt.You are very rude.
>>51369833another artist who doesn't understand reflections
It's Musashi's birthday today. Post the tan gal please.
>>51369833Big hotel butt (compliment)
>>51370428
Houshou's hairy crotch (compliment)
>>51370731Oh no, not again!
>>51370731Sorry girls, you've been tricked. I treated Roma to all my seed already.
>>51370731You know what would be really dreadful? If the pasta dreadnought did that instead.
>>51370462
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I can't believe ooyodin fucking dies.
how much time is left for pumpkins? also I want to use the ones I already have so I don't accidentally forget about them but I still don't know what to pick. I have one each of the planes and the deck crew already. which will be more useful to have more of?
>>51370629
>>51371652Nothing known but "First half of November"
>>51330578
Pumpkins.What is the best order again?Wife > Yahagi > Mogami > KitaOoi > Naganami, Asashimo, etc > YamaMushi > Nelson > NagaMutsu >
>>51371937I'd push KitaOoi down, there's been maps that discriminate against CLTs.Push Yamasushi up for touch and smoke.And anyone else you'd imagine will be flagship when you need smoke.
