>the C-Consciousness has teleported (You) back to April 26, 1986 to a secluded spot in the forests just outside Pripyat, Ukrainian SSR>near (You) is a dead drop containing your favorite kit from the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. games/Call of Duty 4's sniper mission, uniform, body armor, headgear, weapons, ammo everything>(You)r mission - stop the creation of The Zone by preventing the Chernobyl disaster>it's 9AM, the work day is just getting started, you have 14 hours before Dyatlov's graveyard shift starts and the safety test begins, get to workWhat do you do?
>set up on the other side of cooling ponds>use suppressed M21 to put holes in oil coolant tanks for transformers>transformers overheat and trip>generators and turbines trip, reactor SCRAMs>while they figure out what's happened, Xenon 135 decays off, preventing pit conditions and dangerous conditions that allowed the power excursion (i.e. removing most of the control rods to get out of the pit)>Change into civvie clothes, walk into Pripyat for some salo and a glass of kvass
>>65110580>Soviets commit to the test again>Repeat same dangerous conditions>Still don't understand reactor core physics>Nothing has changed
>>65110522We could use some of those old assault guns from WW2 we got laying around?
>>65110631What did they do?
>>65110580>they just go "Is of fine comrade, what are few bullet holes to the MIGHTY USSR BEAR's ooklear program?">shit somehow explodes even harder
>>65110641Used them as battering rams and fire anti-concrete rounds to punch holes through the walls.
>>65110650Should stress it was planned to fire the anti-concrete rounds to make a hole towards the reactor but I think even the Russians realized that might no be the smartest idea.
>>65110650>>65110657Why tf would you need holes in the reactor? You want to keep the radiatioactive shit contained not exposed.What am I missing?
>>65110670I don't remember the exact details but they needed to get in and drain basement under the reactor that had filled with water from the firefighting efforts that was bubbling away and was a steam explosion hazard. Drilling would take too long and expose the workers to too much radiation so this was seen as the quickest method. Think they dropped the idea altogether and dug a hole underground instead.
>>65110522
Understanding what went wrong could have only happened if it went wrong. The reactors were dangerous as shit, not only to the people of the USSR but to the Entire continent of Europe. This close to zero hour would change nothing because the conditions for the disaster are set. The only thing to do is kill every man who is supposed to be in the control room that night and hope it spooks the government to postpone operations at the plant long enough for things to normalize. Hopefully someone more competent runs the plant but that ticking time bomb of a reactor design is still there and someone somewhere will fuck it up too.We may have to just let the disaster happen to prevent a worse one that could happen later.
>>65110522>>65110687The whole point of the test was generator rundown and balance using the Mercedes truck designed for the testing.No truck no test.
>>65110835>using the Mercedes truck designed for the testingI'm sorry but what
>>65110840https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnA0hn1TnkE
>>65110522Do I speak Russian? Call the plant and ask to leave a message for Comrade Dylatov... > can you let him know his package was dropped off this morning, but I looked in the package and there is a different name on some of the documents, maybe they gave him the wrong forms and he needs to contact the border police before he goes on his holiday to Germany?Let the KGB handle it from there, best chance of getting someone to review the planned test and accuse them of attempted sabotage.
>>65110522I wouldn't be able to stop anything. That was the problem, anyone who objected to party plans was shunned or removed from power or worse.The Rube Goldberg of failure was already well on it's way before 1986
I'm from eastern yurop and I say just let it happen.Maybe make the other 3 reactors also explode.
>>65110522Invite the Kremlin upper echelon for a site tour.
>>65111408Based
>>65111408Yeah, it's the explosion that slowly killed the soviet union.One of the most important events in post-WWII history, if not the most important.
>>65111161It was the Swiss cheese of aviation accidents in action. The reactor details were a state secret, so the reactor technicians weren't aware of the design flaws. Dyatlov was under political pressure to complete the safety tests, so he pushed, despite incomplete preparations. The on duty crew were at the end of a 10-hour shift, but were asked to stay at their posts, despite fatigue.
Overload all the reactors.
>>65110522Even Western propaganda surrounding the event makes the Soviets who participated in containing the situation look like selfless heros. One of the few times the Soviets cleaned up after themselves properly.
>>65110522>assassinate Dyatlov just before Midnight. >Plant US Dollars and letters suggesting he was an American spy on his person. >Letters talk about intentionally causing a nuclear disaster exactly like how it actually happens. >Attack the reactor building, targeting one of the Generators.>Abruptly abort attack and run for the Black Sea as soon as the alarms go off. >Crew scrams reactor, starts search for Dyatlof>Finds planted evidence>KGB gets involved>Test put on hold while KGB investigates.>KGB eventually finds that entire process is fucked and probably wouldn't work even if everything goes right>Safety test declared Capitalist Plot and everyone asking for it is gulag'd >Chill out in Greece while whole thing blows over.
>>65110522Nuke the soviet union before they can ruin nuclear energy forever.
>>65113667This
>>65114171A fellow moderate, I see.
>>65113695>One of the few times the Soviets cleaned up after themselves properlyExcept they didn't.
>>65113695>Even Western propaganda surrounding the event makes the Soviets who participated in containing the situation look like selfless heros.It baffles me how butthurted they were by HBO show, where almost everyone was depicted as a selfless hero. The only thing that series criticized was the system itself... Which probably is why. Fucking vatniks, disgusting creatures.
>>65110522I bring a pencil, paper and leave a note on the front door for them to test all four units rather than just the one. All four reactors go kaboom and I have many chortles and snickers.
>>65110522The whole point of the RMBK reactor that Chernobyl was using, was to turn fuel grade plutonium into weapons grade uranium, with the end result being nebulohs "waste" that could be snuck out and later used to build nukes under the nose of US inspectors.Unless you literally blow up the fucking reactor, you ain't doing shit because the carbon core of the reactor was intentionally dangerous, because the process HAD to be unstable in order to perform the quasi enrichment.
>>65113163The night shift was also composed of the less experienced operators who were also completely unfamiliar with the test since the day shift was originally supposed to carry it out.
>>65114989Probably because they never bothered watching the show
>>65110580Most k poster itt
>>65110580>>Change into civvie clothes, walk into Pripyat for some salo and a glass of kvass>Immediately get KGB'd for sticking out like a sore thumb
>>65111408>>65113127If you make the disaster too much worse, the USSR might not spend so much money and effort trying to hide it.
>>65114989>The only thing that series criticized was the system itself... Which probably is why.That's the worst crime you can commit.
>>65110522> stop the creation of The ZoneBut i love The Zone
>>65110583>>65110687Correct. Assuming STALKER Anon is successful, the accident would have occurred at one of the RBMK's eventually.>prevent the test>wake up in the Zone around Ignalina
>>65110522Yeah
>>65117344The zone wasn't created by the nuclear accident, anon.
Realistically I cause enough damage to warrant a terror response to disrupt regular testing.
>>65110631Didn’t these things wind up breaking down due to the radiation and were left to rust in place?
In addition to >>65115027 's plan, i stick around until disaster strikes and purposefully try to kill as many responders as possible, making it even worse.
>>65110522>for that dayfire wildly into it with a light machine gun, soviets will be trying to figure out what the fuck happened, test doesn't go through>anything at all longerthere is no single person, and i mean none, that could be killed/incapacitated that day to stop the disaster for more than *maybe* a full day. you would have to eliminate entire shifts, so the C-Consciousness is going to have to give you a lot more than just a diddy bag of shit.
>>65110522There is no gun which will unfuck from 500 Anno fuckin Domini till 1986. Chernobyl, if you watched the series, is a symptom. It had even happened so many times before (see nuclear generals).
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>>65121087If they broke down it was due to superior Soviet engineering not radiation. They were abandoned along with a whole bunch of other vehicles because they were irradiated not because they no longer worked.
>>65121094with just a pencil and paper? Or all equipment OSP, just like Solid Snake.
>>65115158Seven other RBMK-1000 reactors remain active to this day.
>>65115180>>65113163This. Arguably, you could shoot Dyatlov and the night crew wouldn't have the confidence to start the test, delaying until the day crew came back.
>>65121171The pen is mightier than the sword, but if i get to choose I'll bring a thermonuclear device.Or a slick wa2000 with plenty of ammo and take em out at a distance.
>>65110522I just pile bodies on it until they absorb all the radiation.
>>65114989Vatnik's unironically believe that Chernobyl wasn't an accident and a Western spy somehow managed to sneak a suitcase bomb into the heart of the USSR to make the Soviets look bad. The mere implication that the Soviet Union was just incompetent is offensive to them.
>>65115158>turn fuel grade plutonium into weapons grade uraniumb8 or actual retard?
>>65123151>one man gets the shovel!>the other gets the NBC suit!>when the man with the shovel dies from radiation exposure the man with the NBC suit picks up the shovel and continues working!
>>65110522Scream into a loudspeaker about how Dyatlov works for the CIA
>>65110522Even if you prevented Chernobyl on that date, it would simply happen on another day in another place, possibly worse as well. The soviets didn't understand the flaws and dangers their reactors had, they only realized that AFTER they'd melted down Chernobyl so they'd have kept running them dangerously until something happened.
>>65115158RBMK makes some Pu-239 but other than that it's a poor engine for weapons material.
>>65116197I have several Russian friends, and they all hate American/English productions of Russian history or stories involving Russians because they never cast Russians. They seeth so much at it. Eastern Promises, Chernobyl, Enemy at the Gates, etc. Something about there not being any Russians really sets them off.
>>65124094My plot to replace you is working... Connery a sub captain, every "russian" in film has a brit accent. Beautiful, really.
>>65124104Exactly. They can't even enjoy the Hunt for Red October because of this specific point. I kinda get it, but also if they made it an all Slavic production then it wouldn't be made in the first place. And of course, Brat (Brother) is each and every single one of them's favorite film.
Easy, swallow your pride and ask America and Yurop for help.Liquidators and those firefighters will still die but at least those Ukrainians, Belarussians and Russians living near the area won't get cancer when they hit 40
>>65124124>Easy...>Do a thing that Russians would rather kill themselves than do We have different ideas of what is easy in the mind of a Russian.
>>65124122>>65124094Your friends sound like boring tiresome pricks, ngl.
>be (Me)>realize the catastrophe was the proverbial final straw that killed off the USSR>quickly gtfo so everything proceeds as it should have>make a quick detour to Dresden along the way to snipe some KGB midget's dick off
>>65124254>make a quick detour to Dresden along the way to snipe some KGB midget's dick offThe real move would be to put a bomb in his washing machine and set it to detonate as he's driving back to Muscovy.
>>65110522Do nothing to prevent the disaster. Assassinate Sherbina, Legasov and anyone else trying to take charge unless they're KGB or members of Politburo.
>>65110835>Malicious krauts sabotaging the glorious Soviet Reactor. An RBMK can never fail, it was those damn WESTERN Germans that made it fail with their damned infernal machine>Also, gib drone :)
What if they had nuked the reactor after the initial failure. Think about it, you already have a radiological disaster going on, why not use a small nuclear weapon to completely destroy the facility, and to disperse the fisile material so that ongoing reactions are ceased.
>>65121087Radiation caused damage to equipment with complicated electronics and computer systems. The electronics in those things are about as simple as you can get and they were made back when "computer" was still a job title.
>>65110522Bomb of course
>>65124271This
>>65110522>>65110522>exoskeleton>pkm>rpg-7>shitloads of ammo for both>more tourist's delight than one stalker can eat in a year>bandages and medkits, in case the poorly-trained, poorly-disciplined conscripts that will eventually try and stop me get a lucky shot off>stride into the facility, repeat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CgC42GlsjA to every soul I encounter>repeat at every RBMK-powered facility throughout the Soviet Union over the next several monthsYou're welcome, I have saved the Soviets from one of their two dozen or so ecological disasters.
>>65114171What about 3 Mile Island, tho?
>>65124393And now you have just spread the radioactive material on a wider area, contaminating even more land. Nice. This is peak Cold War thinking.
Honestly, assassinating Stalin would solve the problem at its source.
FYI soviets thought rational not to provide guards with live ammo. So you could probably storm any sov object with just a loaded makarov.
>>65128422>two dozen or so ecological disastersyou're off by about a factor of ten, but your heart is in the right place
>>65123984That's why you need to frame Dyatlov of being an American Spy. The test had actually been attempted before without causing disaster, Dyatlov just fucked it up by first killing the reactor by running it in the lowest energy state for a long time and then trying to crash restart it by taking ALL the control rods ALL the way out. It was basically the perfect storm of incompetence.So what you do is hand Dyatlov a fuckton of Rubles, shoot him, and drop a letter on his corpse with step by step instructions on how to recreate the Chernobyl disaster. The reactor crew follows standard protocol until the next shift arrives and by then the KGB shows up and assume the safety test is a Capitalist Plot.
>>65128424Kinda minor, all things considered. The reactor was already in SCRAM mode, they just didn't realize the water valve was open and the rods collapsed into a radioactive mess. The reactor it'self didn't pop and most of the radioactive material stayed inside the containment building. The plant was a write off but nobody died. Later studies showed normal rates of cancer within 10 miles of the plant.
>>65121300>Seven other RBMK-1000 reactors remain active to this day. With heavy redesign/remanufacturing of the control surfaces. Double the number of control rods, completely different materials for the rods, an entire panel's worth of extra sensors, more auxiliary gensets etc. >>65124084Technically, RBMK wasn't an enrichment reactor (though it could theoretically be run as one, albeit inefficiently). However, large parts of its design had been indeed cloned from an actual enrichment plant (to use a quote from the series: "Because it was cheaper"), along with said reactor's design flaws. >>65124094>I have several Russian friends, and they all hate American/English productions of Russian history or stories involving Russians because they never cast Russians. I'll bet they absolutely fucking hate The Death Of Stalin, even though it's 100% accurate in portraying the regime's paranoid retardation and internal power struggle.
Why would I save the Soviet Union?
>>65124094>I have several Russian friendsWhy?
>>65130834...Because a random anon on 4chan asked nicely?
>>65130834Because I want my Leonard 1A6 and that shit won't pay for itself if those drunk retarded slavs simply wither away.
>>65110522>take ADM to the powerplant>set it to detonate in the next hour>steal a lada>drive the fuck off>enjoy the fireworks
>>65110522Pay the reactor manager 500 US dollars to just fake the fucking paperwork for the test and another 500bucks to pay off the nightshift that was supposed to carry it out.He's a soviet manager, he knows how to fake shit.
>>65131838Rubles. You want to pay them in Soviet Rubles. US Dollars draw too much attention.The good news is OP says you get to keep your S.T.A.L.K.E.R. kit which should mean all the cash you've got in game.
>>65110522Phone in a bomb threat at the plant and say Dyatlov planted it.
>>65134345Best do it early so that the Soviet Bureaucracy has time to respond.
>>65110522>C-Consciousness>time travelThat's not how itg works
>>65121300And not a single one of them uses a carbon core moderator like Chernobyl did, because the whole reason Chernobyl asploded was because graphite does this incredible thing where it fucking starts on fire when it gets too fucking hot. And when your core moderator is literally a pile of fucking ash, you suddenly have a run off reaction that culminates jn a steam explosion as all your coolant rapidly boils off.>>65123239Brilliant rebuttle.>>65124084PU-239 is required for thermonuclear weapons to act as the trigger for the hydrogen reaction. The Soviets figured out that over time, they could convert fuel grade PU or UR I don't remember, they could do the conversion into PU-239 all at once in a more active reaction, as opposed to a slow decay that RMBKs were known for.Its been a decade since I wrote my thesis on this, I don't remember the mechanics, but ANS had a great paper covering the basics.
>>65110522Eliminate Byukhanov, Dyatlov and/or Formin. This is driven by those three men and the Soviets are paralyzed without someone telling them what to do.The only real difficulty would be evading security services.
Not entirely on topic, but I'm curious: what happens if the Soviet higher-ups are more informed about the operation and dangers of nuclear reactors? Not engineers themselves, but knowledgeable enough to have firm opinions on what must be done and what doesn't have to be done. Say they get the core capped and prevent contamination of the groundwater and leave it at that. They probably don't bother fixing the other reactors but put in a note to not do that shit again. Does the Soviet Union collapse? Do other countries start moving away from nuclear power? Does the Soviet Union move away from nuclear power?
>>65114989Because it makes the governance look bad.
>>65138010They’d all be too fucking stupid to grasp the danger, which is what happened IRL
>>65124271>one of your nuclear plant (glorious soviet engineering marvel) go boom>this is obviously western sabotage>everybody in charge to resolve the problem is systematically assassinatedhow long until they launch nukes at random?
>>65110583The test taking place under a different team might have been enough to stop it, didn't it have a shift change halfway through and the night shift weren't as competent?
>>651284243 mile island was an example of how safe Western nuclear reactors are, without Chernobyl it would be 'lol oops'
>>65143370This. Honestly, if Chernobyl had a Western style containment building the city of Pripyat would still be inhabited.
>>65136237why?
>>65143795>if Chernobyl had a Western style containment building the city of Pripyat would still be inhabited.Even the Japs had to abandon a decent chunk of Fukushima Prefecture when they had their power plant meltdown after the 2011 earthquake.
>14 hoursI track down and eliminate the CIA SOG team tasked with surveillance of the final Duga array tests and lay them on the steps of the Pripyat militia building like my cat lays out field mice for me in the morningsthe reactor test, being part of the final testing stage for the Duga array, will be postponed
I dislike how the show made Dyatloff look like a cunt. From what i read he was fairly normal in temperament rather than being an ass for the sake of it.
>>65149140That's because it got hit by a Earthquake THEN a Tsunami. It's a miracle the Fukushima reactor was still standing.
>>65110522Tell the local KGB that Dyatlov called Gorby a faggot
>call Yugoslavian intelligence services>let them know about the flaw and impending test>have Yugoslavia's nuclear program ask the Soviets for an "export upgrade" for the RMBK to fix the issue to be considered for Yugoslavia's program>Soviets develop a fix and implement it as an "upgrade" domesticallyCan't do it in 14 hours but I don't see why it wouldn't work
>>65132053>Rubles. You want to pay them in Soviet RublesAnon, those fuckers were swimming in rubles already, the problem for rich people in the soviet union was that there was nothing to spend your rubles on.You can have a shitbox car, a shitty tv and a shitty sound system and then what? You're not getting a nicer house because go fuck yourself, best we can do is an appartment in the ruling class block.Dollars though? That's only five favors and three bribes removed from buying you a western TV!
>>65128424>3 Mile IslandResulted in quite literally zero casualties. President Carter felt confident enough to literally take his family to the plant to calm the public, and he had worked on nuclear subs in the Navy so he actually understood what the risks of a reactor meltdown were.
>>65110522>saving the USSRNah
>>65124094Why thoBrit accents work perfectly for a totalitarian nightmare stateI think it was actually better this way than if they had cast russians
>>65152938It wouldn't work because the system in place would find you suspicious for suggesting, even implying, something needed changing. As long as the Russians (USSR but really, Russians) were involved with nuclear reactors, there was going to be a catastrophe.
>>65149140>the evacuation due to the meltdown>not the record setting earthquake and tsunamiThe Fukushima meltdown never broke containment despite the above happening
>>65128424Windscale was worse.
>>65128424Terrible reaction from the company in response to a costly, but environmentally insignificant accident.Their shitty interviews did irrepairable damage to the public perception on nuclear energy and gave decades worth of fuel to soviet sponsored agitators.
>>65159347>The Fukushima meltdown never broke containmentHow? You can literally see the containment buildings be practically blown apart in videos after the accident.
>>65162120Wasn't the containment building. It was the sheet metal roof that they used to keep the overhead crane dry. You can tell because it wasn't on fire for the next 20 years.
>>65159365Windscale was built Stupid.
>>65162556So wait, the reactor meltdown was enough to destroy a temporary roof but not the containment building below it?
>>65165991> the reactor meltdown was enough to destroy a temporary roofNah, that was just hydrogen from the spent fuel pools. The radiation occasionally hits water molecules hard enough to rip the hydrogen right off of 'em. Normally, you'd vent that out but since everyone was evacuated from the Earthquake and Tsunami there wasn't anyone around to so much as open a window before the hydrogen reached flammable levels and blew the roof off. Literally. Nothing nuclear about it, just a garden variety hydrogen-oxygen explosion.
>>65166156Ah, I take it those had nothing to do with the decision to evacuate the surround area?
>>65169479They might have evacuated because of the tsunami and earthquake, or as a precaution you disingenuously obtuse nigger
>>65169479Other way around. The Tsunami and Earthquake caused an evacuation which, combined with the infrastructure being FUCKED, meant that there was nobody to deal with the hydrogen buildup before some random spark blew the literal roof off.
>>65143795That's debatable. The explosion could theoretically crack a containment building like an egg but most of that explosive force came from outside oxygen getting into the hydrogen-rich core. If the containment building stands up to the initial pop it could drastically reduce the power of the second explosion, definitely the stronger of the two. A containment building would likely reduce the overall fallout, however, if only because it would take energy to knock it down. Chunks of graphite would hit the concrete walls even as they crumbled. The flow of oxygen would be restricted, causing more of a fwoosh than a bang for the secondary explosion. In all likelihood, Pripiyat would still be evacuated but the cleanup would be cheaper and people might have moved back in by now.
>>65162569>Air cooled
>>65124094I mean on one hand I get it but on the other hand I feel at least most western countries don’t really have a bias as bad as Russia when comes to period pieces on the Russians
>>65143795>>65149140Wasn't there an observation that if a western country had a Chernobyl tier nuclear disaster, they wouldn't have been able to contain it like the Soviets since they wouldn't have sacrificed the hundreds of thousands of men as liquidators and bio-robots that the soviets did.
>>65173074A Chernobyl-tier nuclear disaster with an open core is exceedingly unlikely in the west. However? Should push come to shove, most western govts are just as capable of sacrificing their citizens. Read about UK, US and French cold war-era nuclear war plans sometime.Especially the French.
