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Anyone know how to remove mothball stink from fabric? A previous owner of my DPM lovingly bugproofed some jackets and pants in the most retarded way possible, mothballs. I've tried Dawn, hot water, cold water, Dawn Powerwash, baking soda, washing soda, vinegar, Ozium, sunlight, you name it. Not a single one worked, only temporarily reduced the smell. My next thought is an ozone generator. Anyone ever try that on clothes?
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>>65142446
more sunlight. leave it outside for a few days to air out.
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Wet it and freeze thoroughly, then dunk in boiling vinegar water, then leave it in the sun. If that doesn't do it you're OOL.
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What pistol does Reinikainen have? He never unholstered it.
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>>65142446
>getting the milsurp smell out of milsurp
Not possible
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>>65142446
>mothball stink
Sunlight won't help but airing it out will. You need to let the napthalene evaporate. Leave it out exposed to as much air circulation as possible. Hanging it out on a clothesline is ideal.

>>65142740
What's any of that nonsense going to do? It sounds like you're just trying random bullshit without understanding of the chemical you are trying to remove.
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>>65142457
I've aired it out a lot but I'll try more.

>>65142869
I'm fine with surplus equipment and clothes smell but this is advanced stink. I fucking hate mothball smell. God awful.

>>65142878
>need to let napthalene evaporate
I don't want to fade the pattern by sitting it out in the sun too long (it reeks strong, trust me, it'll need quite some time); maybe I could put a fan on it in the garage or something? If not and it needs the heat of the sun/summer, then clothesline it is.
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>>65143148
>maybe I could put a fan on it in the garage or something?
that would work too. Sunlight isn't important. Warmth is good but not essential. Air circulation is essential.
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>>65142853
Looks like a Hi-Power to me, look at the rivet in the grip and the protusion of the magazine
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>>65142853
I think it's this, an FN Model 1910
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>>65143195 (me)
Shit, I think >>65143215 might be right, I missed the magazine catch, good eye anon
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>>65142446
Ozone genuinely works although it could destroy the stitching or something. But I guess if it did you could buy another.

I might ozone my hunting clothes actually, I got a machine to ozone my car every now and then
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>>65143215
nice work anon
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>>65143215
Is 1910 really that small? You could be right, thanks.
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I often see crosshairs like this, wtf is wrong with me
(exaggerated forr illustration)
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>>65143284
I guess you could look through with your other eye, if you see it normal it's your eye that's the problem, if it's still kinked I guess it's your brain.

Either way it may well be terminal so get your affairs in order
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What would getting shot with 20mm look like? Is it 'just' a big bullet wound or would there be concussive effects/hydrostatic shock that would make it worse?
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>>65143279
>Is 1910 really that small?
yeah
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>>65143172
I'll see how that goes. I have a couple spare fans and could set one up.

>>65143255
Yeah I'm worried I'll fuck it up somehow. Old polyester thread is a brittle picky fucker that fails at the worst time as-is, let alone after exposure to ozone.
>hunting clothes
Might not be a bad idea for electric vests and jackets once a year. I just hate knowing I have to wash them at some point. Sure, you can. But a USB powered heater in a jacket going in the wash feels so wrong and I've straight up rinsed PCBs like The8BitGuy before. Being in fabric makes it a little more prone to holding water.

>>65143284
IIRC I used to see my Leupold like that. I don't even think it's a wire reticle so unless the etching is fucked in its design I think it's just my brain worrying after seeing countless wire reticles all fucked at gunshows etc.
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How "tacticool" can I make the Marlin Guide Gun? Seems to be the cheapest of their lines and I want to Space Cowboy it.
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Bros, I need to start pinching pennies haaaard. I dont wanna sell my gun tho and actually want to keep shooting. Is it possible to eat on 5 bucks a day? I want to throw more money at ammo and I see that I spend around 11 bucks a day on food.
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>>65144071
Don't sell your gun, but stop shooting get a raise or a better job.
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>>65144071
>Is it possible to eat on 5 bucks a day?
salt, beans, rice, potato, onions maybe a little meat.you dont need all of them at the same time.'
or just live off costco hotdogs
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>>65144071
Three squares or just one/two meals a day?
Lentils are a good place to start no matter what.
If you haven't already done this price compare your grocer to others in your area. Sanity check against distance and ghettoness to your own standard.
Grocery surplus like grocery outlet is great if one's in your area.
Eat soups with bread or crackers.
For meats, when you eat them, stick with pork and dark meat chicken. Do not buy cheap farmed tilapia/swai/catfish/ ANYTHING farmed from SE asia.
Buy ham after the holidays. Buy more than one if you have the freezer for it
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>>65144090
Working on it
>>65144125
>costco hotdogs
Costco is too far by bus, i have bought little sacks of all the things you mentioned except onions, I just have two medium red onions.
>>65144196
I eat twice a day, breakfast then lunch.
I'll check out more soups but I was cautious of their salt content.
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>>65144228
Unless it's a good sale, canned soup is generally expensive for what you get nutritionally and as you noted, high in sodium.
It's convenience food.
Making your own soup is where you really see the power of soup and you naturally have control over the sodium level.
You won't need to pack it so full of salt because you aren't expecting it to travel across the land and keep for years.
Even if you're not much of a cook there's plenty you can do with a crockpot or an electric pressure multicooker.
>But anon those cost money
Not as much as you think if you shop around and they'll more than pay for themselves in time.
A pressure multicooker will be more expensive than a basic crockpot but they go on deep sales frequently and they're very versatile. Not to mention far quicker than a crock pot
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>>65144196

Grocery Outlet BARGAIN MARKETTTTTTTTTTTTT

Seriously though, pennies on the dollar for quality stuff plus good cheap house brands. $30 a week is doable with strict meal planning and stocking up.
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What is the advantage of the twisting stock system for the Benelli/XM1014?
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>>65142446
Take it to morgue and wrap it around a dead body, it will still stink, just not of mothballs. A live jeet will work too.
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>>65144497

I've had good luck with Arrest My Vest getting weird smells out of uniform items that can't be easily washed. It's not cheap but it's an option.
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On the topic of cleaning milsurp gear whats the best way to get rid of ducttape residue and possibly motor oil stains. Hopefully motor oil
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>>65144071
>Is it possible to eat on 5 bucks a day?
Easily. You can eat very well on $5 a day, in fact. Learn to cook, and throw as little away as possible.

A fantastic poverty meal is chicken vegetable soup. Buy a whole chicken or get one of those cheap rotisserie chickens that's already been cooked. Get a pound of pasta, a couple carrots, onions, maybe another few basic cheap vegetables. That's several good wholesome meals for maybe $10 total.

Dry rice and beans are your friends. They don't cost much and they are very nutritious. Add a little bit of meat, fish, veggies to round out the meal and keep it less boring.

Many local supermarkets have a discount section where they sell day-old bakery products or soon-to-expire meat/produce at a big discount. Watch for these, there are often great deals to be had.

Learn to make stock. There's good reason it's one of the first sections in many classic cookbooks. It's delicious, nutritious, and very economical. Don't throw away bones from meat, poultry, or fish: make stock which you can then use to make soups, sauces, etc.
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>>65144563
>ducttape residue and motor oil
have it dry-cleaned. Those both require petroleum solvents to remove.
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>>65143305
>>65143949
maybe we can perceive imperfections others cant, maybe we are a special kind of retarded and brainworms did some damage, I'm less worried now that I know it's not just me
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>>65144228
>I'll check out more soups but I was cautious of their salt content.
It's very hard to find a premade soup that's not a sodium bomb. Some of the premium brands aren't that bad but they are so expensive that it defeats the point. The real key behind soup that is cheap, nutritious, and economical is to cook it on bones or to use stock you've previously made from bones & scraps. That gives the flavor without the salt. Like the other anon suggested, get a crock pot or a pressure cooker, this will unlock the ability to make awesome soup from cheap ingredients and leftovers. It's useful for more than just that, it's also handy for making things like pulled pork, pot roast, etc. Those can be great economical dishes to make when the meat goes on sale.
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>>65144718
The diet you're proposing is short on protein and fibre and uses beans as a crutch for both. $5 a day is enough to survive, but not to eat well. Eating well means not being forced to eat significant quantities of poverty foods like beans, rice, lentils, etc every day to.avoid malnutrition.
>t. a very good cook, and on a budget
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>>65144757
I didn't propose an entire diet. I threw out some beginner ideas for anon to get started with the assumption that he'd do research on his own.

>poverty foods like beans, rice, lentils
The fact that you call these "poverty" foods and talk about being "forced" to eat them tells me that no, you're not a very good cook at all.

Anyway, it's not my intent to detail this into a cooking thread, the point I was trying to get across is that if you cook from scratch you can make food that is economical, delicious, and nutritious compared to buying prepared foods. I doubt you disagree with me on that.
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>>65144781
>I doubt you disagree with me on that.
No, I don't, I just disagree that you can eat well on $5 a day. I think you're just setting people who don't know cooking up for frustration by telling them that they can. You could do three people well for $15, but you can't do one well for $5.
>poverty foods
I can cook all of those things well, but they're OK ingredients to use now and again unless otherwise forced. As staples in a western diet, they suck donkey dick.

The advice you should be giving (and >>65144071 take this as my advice to you, other than tempering your expectations about what a $5 diet is going to be like), other than the correct stocks, soups and more vegetables advice that's already been given is organ meat and cheap sauce fundamentals.

Organ meat is extremely delicious if you learn to cook properly, develop a taste for it and learn what you like, and it's better for you in almost every way than muscle. People not knowing how to cook organ meat, nor developing a taste for it, is probably the biggest contributor to poor people getting locked into shitty diets (aside from time poverty/shit time preference and the same of vegetables).

Learning to turn the oil and fond left in your pan into calorific and extremely tasty sauces using very little more than flour and water or stock is an essential skill for any home cook. This is the most essential generic and non-trivial "cooking" skill to develop, and makes otherwise anemic or mediocre dishes very robust and tasty. Someday when you're not poor, you'll buy a decent french cook book and apply the fundamentals you learned to better ingredients and more time, and you'll basically have unlocked the cooking super power of saucing.
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>>65144822
>You could do three people well for $15, but you can't do one well for $5.
Cooking single portions is a fool's errand if you are trying to save money. You cook larger batches with multiple portions at a time, eat one portion immediately, then you refrigerate/freeze/etc the rest for later, or you repurpose the leftovers into other dishes.

>but they're OK ingredients to use now and again unless otherwise forced
This is why I think you're a bad cook. Things like lentils and beans are the ultimate blank slate. You telling me they are merely "okay" is like a painter telling me he doesn't know what to do with a bare canvas.

>Organ meat is extremely delicious if you learn to cook properly
Darn right it is.

>extremely tasty sauces using very little more than flour and water or stock is an essential skill for any home cook
Why'd you think I made such a big deal about stock? Protip: that's also how you make your lentils taste amazing. Then you won't be "forced" to eat them.
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>>65142446
Man this isn't /k/ but my mom threw mothballs under her dishwasher and even after vacuuming them out a month ago the whole house still reeks like them every time I visit.
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Should I do it?
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>>65142446
>Disruptive Pattern Material, design of 1995
Has there ever been a camouflage pattern as aesthetic as the 'backflipping ninjas' the Brits used to use?
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Is there a decent safe that doesn't weigh a shit ton that I can actually store a decent amount of shit in?
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>>65143148
>I don't want to fade the pattern
Turn the garment inside out.
Also airing it out for a looong time in the shade (like in a well-ventilated garage or attic, or on the north side of a house) should eventually bring results. Elevated temperature helps with getting rid of smell, too, so attic in the summer might actually be the way to go.
t. used to hang clothes reeking of cigarette smoke after going to the pub over a radiator to get rid of the smell
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>>65144071
Seconding >>65144304 but local discount stores. Not chains. You're going to have to scour google maps, etc. and find some. Usually those places get damaged cases/pallets, near expiration, and lost/misplaced shipment stuff. Not uncommon to get US made stuff printed for a completely different country in some other language at those kind of places. Can be amusing to find regular products in Spanish (usually Mexican products), funny squiggly Thai characters, Cyrillic, etc. Sometimes imported, sometimes for export. The food can be real cheap, just have to be picky and consider prices. Also, >>65144718 day old bakery bread is great. If you can find cheese-topped toasted bread rolls, that shit is basically a meal on its own reheated w/ butter. Also, watch some Atomic Shrimp on YT. He gets creative w/ cheap food.

>>65144398
As someone who played with an M4 not too long ago in a LGS, I have one thing to say:
>twisting
>???
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>>65144563
>duct tape goo
Goo gone? Never used it on fabric.
>hopefully motor oil
Shout? I use Shout and a toothbrush and a little water. It takes some work and you'll be at it for a while but I have even dulled the ink staining from a broken pen on used BDUs, but not fully removed it. Helps get out oil marks from bike chains and stuff too. Then maybe Tide, unscented, for further scent removal. Might want to also rub that in a little right before washing. Everything else is so highly scented it drives me nuts.

>>65145366
Can't unsee now

>>65146079
>inside out
Oh man I'm retarded
>attic
Oh man I'm REALLY retarded. Thanks anon.
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Think it's retarded to get a leather butt stock cover with cartridge loops on the side, if it's for a modern bolt-action rifle with a synthetic stock? I always love how they look, but it seems like it's a wood stock lever action, or safari gun thing.
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>>65146225
do whatever you want. being concerned about what other people think is gay.
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>>65142446
Has anyone else lost their love for firearms and if so how did you recover it?

I have 10 and I haven’t fired any of them in about a year. Got out hunting one weekend but didn’t see any deer last fall. I routinely still practice drawing and dry firing my concealed every other week like i always have but that’s about it.

I just hate signing myself up for more work and I know if i go to the range my autism will kick in and i’ll want to deep clean whatever i fire.
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>>65146225
Dye it black if you want the tacticool look, or get one made from fabric rather than leather.
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>>65143233
It's an FN. Not a Hi Power, grip is the wrong size, wrong angle, no protruding hammer.
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>>65144563
>>65142446
To continue the /k/ hints from heloise we have here, I have three suggested chemicals.
Firstly Pine Sol. Yes, you can use it in the laundry. It even has instructions on the bottle.
It's crackerjack for getting out odors and stains and gives everything a nice pine scent. Original recipe is what I use so idk about the others but if you're buying pine sol not to have it smell like pine idk what you're doing.

The next is laundry ammonia. I only used it once while living with someone else who was refusing the pine sol pill in lieu of it. It did a good job deodorizing despite smelling as it did and it brightens colors without washing them out like bleach does
Mind any other chemicals you use with it to avoid waging chemical warfare in the laundry room.

The last is Lestoil. I haven't used it myself but it's highly recommended by basically anyone who gets their clothing horribly filthy like mechanics and coal miners. And if you read the ingredients, it's not hard to understand why.
But it's chemical of last resort with a smell of it's own, so only use it if you really need to. It can be hard to find as well depending on where you live.
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>>65144125
Since the pandemic my local costco has been without polish sausage, deli mustard, kraut and the onion crank.
It's basically ruined the entire experience.
I hate the antichrist.
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>>65148644

The chain got rid of polish sausage altogether. It's hotdog only now. I'm mad too.
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/k/ - Cooking & Cleaning
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>>65148812
That's fucked up.
The things sacrificed so the hot dog remains $1.50
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I miss churros
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Im sure you guys have seen these Soviet hats for sale, thing is I got curious and tried to search but I cant for the life of me find a SINGLE image of a soviet soldier wearing one of these in Afghanistan, with or without the mask. There's a similar one that shows up in pics but not this one. What's the deal? was it never mass issued due to the USSR collapsing?
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>>65148913

The deli mustard and crank returned to my local Costco in limited form, but the sauerkraut is in little cups when it's even available. They cut deep to make that devil's bargain, even the combo pizza is gone.
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>>65148860
Well those two are the most important things in the military.
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>>65143691
It would depend on the type of projectile. Most 20mm and larger rounds contain explosive so that's going to be more like sitting on a grenade vs. getting shot with a bullet.
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Why was raufoss .50 BMG singled out for St. Petersburg declaration pearl clutching by the red cross when the modern battlefield is chockablock with St. Petersburg violations?

As near as I can understand, basically every grenade launcher and 20mm autocannon (unless they're using AP) violates it.
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>>65142446
whats the cheapest place to get LR308 style AR10 80% receivers?
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How bad is the PSA blemish freedom AR?
I like putting things together and want an AR. $300 for the kit and $100 for a striped lower seems like a pretty easy way to get my feet wet but don't want to waste my money.
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>>65146932
Can't say that I have. Maybe when I was practicing basics/accuracy/steadiness when I was new after 2-3 years. Forcing yourself to go may or may not work; can't hurt to get out with a 22 and have some fun. Once small game seasons really get going, I find even just "taking the rifle for a walk" in the woods whether or not game comes along is fun. Gets you out, active, and is somewhat gun related.
>I know if i go to the range my autism will kick in and i’ll want to deep clean whatever i fire.
Oh man I am the absolute opposite. I'll dry and oil a gun if it gets wet but unless I'm relying on that gun for defense or hunting soon I'm not going to clean it that night.

>>65148644
>>65148812
Speaking of, Cabelas (well, Ass Pro) got rid of the food court ever since covid and never reopoened it. Now it's just a clearance section with shitty $80 hunting pants. Cabelas used to have Caribou, Bison, and other similar burgers available. Some were very good, others dry, but it was just something fun to have available. Ass Pro sucked the fun and deals (rip discount/damaged/returned cave) out of that place, seriously.

>>65150647
I heard PSA started asking some customers for ID verification on random orders, gun or not. Of course IIRC the company they use is known for data leaks/breeches because of course they are. I rarely order from PSA but I might just fucking not if they're going that direction. No one else fucking does that. Shitty CC payment systems leaking info was bad enough.
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>>65144757
>t. fillet mignon faggot
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>>65148481
ammonia breaks down grease from cooking fast as fuck. we used it when I worked in the nursing home kitchen to get shit spotless for health dept yearly inspections. you can wash wood paneling with it to like new, especially if its covered in smoker tar and stinks to hell and back.
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>>65142446
>how to remove napthalene stench
Full disclosure: I'm older than you're probably comfortable with here. That aside, put your shit on a clothes-line in the sun. Got that solid advice from my grandmother and it's true. Hang it outside on a sunny day and that weird mothball odor will disappear..
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>>65151298

Ass Pro is fucking Ass Pro. Enough said.

Also PSA is asking ID verification because of California, which now requires ID verification (to prove the buyer is 18+) for literally all firearms parts shipments. Their shitty web software is probably just splattering random non-CA people with it because lol PSA.

And don't get me started on the new CA barrel mandatory FFL background check law.
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>>65151298
There used to be Cabela's with a food court?!
Mine only a had a fudge section and one of those heatlamp boxes of candied nuts.
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Lots of gun parts seem to require screws installed at a specific torque. If you don't have a torque screwdriver, how can you ensure a proper fit?
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>>65148481
>As of 2015, the safety data sheet for Lestoil lists tall oil fatty acids, sodium salts 5–10%, Stoddard solvent (petroleum spirit) 3–7%, pine oil 1–5%, sodium hydroxide (lye)< 1%
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>>65152158
>There used to be Cabela's with a food court?!
Yep, in the Hamburg, PA location. This is up the stairs on the second floor. To the right in this pic I found is a huge fake mountain made from fiberglass (?) with everything from groundhogs to raccoons to foxes to deer to wolves and even a fucking polar bear on display. There's also mountain goats on the top IIRC. The plane's propellor is motorized and hangs right above where the tables were. Those tables are still there to the side IIRC and are shadow boxes filled with old ammo boxes, ammo, and other old hunting junk. I really miss the food there; it was unique. To the right of this, they make the candied nuts and fudge that gets sold by the registers. Oh and downstairs is a cave dedicated to mostly deer (and some foxes and skunks) in various environments with a wall of odd and rare antler mutations. And there's an African game section with crocodiles, zebra, big cats, and a full taxidermy mount of an elephant.

Anyways, IIRC the bison was a little dry but every other burger was pretty good.
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>>65152339
Buy a torque screwdriver.
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>>65150647
Could be fine, could be shit. Even if it's fine, it basically has no resale value for when you upgrade. It's much more satisfying to research the path the AR10 took to become the M4A1 and study quality builds on the consumer market today. Then you can make solid choices the first time. Start with a solid base and grow part by part. As they say, the AR15 is "solved." So to me, straying way under that known benchmark seems like a waste. But it's your money.
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>>65143284
>I often see crosshairs like this, wtf is wrong with me

Had that with a partial retinal detachment in the early phases (viral infection). Happens with diabeetics and macular degeneration as well. Get it checked sooner than not.
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I've been saving up for a lever action in .357mag but i'm kinda lost on what to get? I'm torn between the Henry Big Boy X or spend a little more for the Smith & Wesson 1854 in stainless and synthetic. Does anyone have experience with these and can give me a reccomendation?
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>>65152339
Git gud at figuring out what feels like enough to hold and not back out but not too much (ie. to the point of stripping threads, snapping heads, or starting to squish a scope tube) or do what everyone else does and go to the Walmart sporting goods section and buy a Wheeler FAT wrench. It's a torque screwdriver; it measures in inch pounds (NOT foot pounds!).
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has anyone had the Wilson combat Remington steal package done to their old 870? how beat up of a gun do they take? like ran over bad?
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>>65154086
What do you want to do with it?
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these things legit?
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>>65155758
This brand/model doesn't meet my national standards, so they aren't sold here.

Just want to say that based on my personal experience with gun safes, I'd strongly advice trying to find a model with a mechanical high-security lock rather than an electronic combination lock.
Old-school mechanical combination safe locks (big rotating numbered dial on the door) work very well too, but they're slow and finicky to open even when you know the combination.
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>>65142446
Was Adam Undolf's potent seed ever confirmed as real or was it all an elaborate hit job.
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>>65155658
IIRC I've seen some real beat up worn ones get sent in but if it has actual big functioning issues like a screwed up receiver I doubt it. Never did it myself but did a lot of looking into that when I was looking at used police 870s.
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anyone have the funny version of picrel?
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>>65151444
In case anyone was curious, anon was referring to this CA law.

CA AB1263 (2025)

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=202520260AB1263
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>have ar9
>can bong steel at 100 yards consistently with it
>add obsidian 9 suppressor to it
>now has a 25moa grouping
>take suppressor off
>back to bonging steel
>put suppressor back on
>25moa grouping
>check suppressor
>no baffle strikes or anything noticeably wrong
>tried the obsidian 9 in the half length setting
>just as bad accuracy

Help me please
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>>65158634
Did you leave the o-ring on the barrel by accident? Is the silencer fully tight? Did you check concentricity with a 30 cal rod? Did you try different ammo (stupid harmonics)? Is the shoulder/"flat" (face of the barrel behind the threads) the silencer snugs up to dented, dirty, scratched, or otherwise angled? Is there something overhanging the flat face behind the threads? Is the silencer itself completely tightened and shut? Do you have a ton of grease or whatever in the silencer?

I had a 10/22 where the iron sight that goes in the dovetail overhung the face behind the threads once and it only tilted my silencer enough to skim the threads or get close but not cause baffle strikes. Was like 10-15 MOA and a good 12" low (?) at 50 yds. Put a nice scratch on my fucking silencer too since the sharp corner overhung what should've been a flat face.
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>>65158634
>>65161657
>enough to skim the threads or get close but not cause baffle strikes.
Fuck, the baffles, not threads. Also, handguard? Does that overhang the front of the barrel and "nest" the silencer inside? If so, how much clearance do you have? It may be doing silly ass things with harmonics if it can contact the barrel or get very close to doing so (same thing happens with scopes as well). Also depending on weight of silencer, barrel length, and barrel profile, putting a silencer on can greatly "droop" or sag your barrel. One last thought: does your silencer have rubber wipes? Never owned one but they do degrade accuracy IIRC. Not sure if it would be THAT bad, though. Maybe if you shot HP through wipes lol.
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I even made a video for you guys.
Pls halp
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>>65158460
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I'm buying my first shotgun tomorrow (a used Remington 870). Any tips or anything you think I should know?
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>>65163637
look at the ejector if its damaged or slightly deformed walk away. if you can take it apart check under the barrel ring for dimples. whats important is not if they are there are not. its if somebody tried to remove them or drilled it out and if it looks like it was done skillfully or bubba.
any bend or damage to the magtube walk away guns fucked.
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>>65163273
Can I get an answer or do I need to make an entire thread for this?
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>>65163680
Thanks man, I appreciate it
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Who makes really good mechanical replicas of modern guns?
I want stuff that can't fire at all but still has all the springs and little doodads a normal gun has so I can have fun disassembling it and putting it back together and shit. I don't want a bb gun either, no plastic stuff.
I own a gun I actually care about shooting, but I want to collect replicas for everything else I want so I don't have to take on the responsibility of maintaining a bunch of real guns. Plus I wouldn't have to go through a fucking FFL every time.
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>>65163637
Get mossberg instead
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>>65164875
Any replica as detailed as what you are asking for will require the same maintenance as a real gun.

It's also a hard thing to find. Decades ago accurate replicas were very much a thing in Europe, but the ones that are as detailed as you are describing were banned long ago because of how easy it is to convert them to real guns. In the US there never really was a market for such a thing because a real gun was so easy/cheap to get, and if you needed it to be non-functional for safety reasons it was so simple to get a real gun and deactivate it.
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What states are FRTs/Super Safeties for sure illegal in? I see a lot of third party articles about this, but it seems a little difficult to find answers from actual government resources.
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>>65165003
I see, thanks anon
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>>65142446
So this is one of if not the only roller delayed pistol (excluding MP5 "pistols"). How does it feel to shoot?
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>>65142446
Which ones have the "always online" shit? Im willing to pay more for the most ""open source"" unit.
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>>65142446
In a SHTF scenario, total gov collapse/mass unrest, would it be better to hunker down where you are or perhaps journey and try to leave the United States all together? People always say either stay or constantly be on the move but never escape into a different country.
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Since mothballs work by evaporation and deposit of the active ingredient I'd might try clothes dryer on low heat to drive off the crap. Might stink up the dryer and fumigate your house though
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I mounted a scope (vortex viper hd 2-10x) onto my t3x (.30-06) with medium talley rings (too tall, should have got lows) and it needed 14 moa upwards adjustment for zero at 100m. The mount is level and I used a fat wrench for spec torque.

Is the 14moa really enough of a concern that I should take it off to confirm mechanical zero and try re-mounting? And how much benefit would I get from switching to lower rings?
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Found this in a thrift store a while ago and i have no idea what it is. Anyone got a clue what it is or what the real value of something like this is? Theres a hood that folds up into itself at the neck.
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>>65168292
>Is the 14moa really enough of a concern
It's not a concern whatsoever. It's totally expected that you adjust a scope once you mount it. I'm not even sure why you're asking this question.

>And how much benefit would I get from switching to lower rings?
In terms of ergonomics/comfort? Only you can answer that. In terms of affecting your zero or accuracy? Nothing. It doesn't matter at all.
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>>65168526
Idk I'm a noob, LLMs kept telling me it meant I fucked up the mount, I don't usually trust ai but several of them were somewhat insistent. Thanks anon
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>>65168493
it looks like a USMC FROG combat parka. as for the value, I have no idea. I couldn't find any for sale online (in my short search) and the only pictures I found of them online were for worthpoint and a militaria forum from 2016.
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>>65142446
does the criterion core have the same weight as a government profile barrel? I know its almost the same
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>>65168643
from doing a quick google search, yeah, pretty much. a mid length 16" barrel is 1.7 lbs for both.
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>>65168628
Thanks for the response! I found similar examples to this piece online but never in this digital desert pattern. I never found an exact example of it anywhere on Ebay
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>>65168593
>trusting ai
Do people really do this?
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>>65168722
congratulations, anon. it looks like you have something fairly rare.
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>>65165889
Bamboo if not others IIRC. The no-name knockoff designs are more open source, just make sure they have parts or STLs of parts available. I3 clones and Ender clones, those kinds of machines. Replicator clones used to be a thing long ago. That was actually because the whole design was free so a bunch of companies churned out clones of the chassis and injection molded the plastic bits. The firmware was open source too so everyone made a copy.

>>65166790
That's usually when I find out I didn't get rid of it. Actually goes away rather quick in the dryer, but the pants stink for a while after. Tons of tumble drying wears the shit out of clothes as well. In the attic it goes.
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>>65168731
No that's why I asked here.
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Newfag to the suppressor scene, looking to suppress my MP5 clone (PTR 9CT, to be specific) and I'd really like to use tri-lug. My only real concern with this is running into baffle strikes since I also intend to run it with an FRT - am I being neurotic and making up problems in my head, or is this a healthy concern? If the latter, what are my other options?
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Is /k/ more dead that ever? Seeing shit threads stay up longer, good threads not moving. Is there a metric for stir traffic that objectively quantifies my suspicions? Pic non rel, post marker. Not that I expect this thread to move much...
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>>65170894
Site traffic.
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>>65170874
>am I being neurotic and making up problems in my head
That. Keep in mind that real-deal MP5's are full giggle, and the tri-lug mount has no problems with that. You're making up concerns in your head for no reason.
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>>65170894
The site as a whole has slowed down, with fewer posters and most of them being regulars rather than normies buzzing in/shitting up everything because they wanted to see /pol/ and /b/. It's probably for the best.
>>65166168
It depends on a wide range of variables. You'd be surprised how much of the day to day operations of where you live run on a local or state level rather than fed. If it is well run, you have a good community and things are going mostly fine with no major signs of future troubles you might as well stay put. If it's fucked in the local area but not a different one you can get to where you have some connections it may be worthwhile to relocate. If the whole country is absolutely fucked and leaving is an option then sure, do that.

It's hard to say what a theoretical collapse of the US would actually look like and how it would affect surrounding countries. You aren't helping yourself if you flee from a corner of the country that does more or less fine on its own just to become a starving refugee confined to a camp in a country that doesn't want you at all until they send you back directly into the worst part of the mess you fled from.
>>65163637
How old is it? You want one from the 1980s or older. Remington went downhill hard and was making absolute shit since the early 2000s.
>>65155758
Composite safe, probably Chinese with an electronic lock that'll shit out on you, but can be bypassed in 20 seconds by an asshole with a power drill with a carbide bit. And it's expensive.
With safes either go simple by getting a cabinet (lightweight and cheap but only minimal protection) or plate steel (extremely safe, but a lifetime investment that you aren't going to want to move). Composite is kind of the worst of both worlds in that they are heavy and somewhat expensive, but don't usually offer much real protection over a cabinet. They vary wildly in performance so some are worth the upgrade, but most aren't.
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>>65171892
>Composite is kind of the worst of both worlds
Not necessarily. Yes, there are a lot of crap tier composite "safes" but real deal ones are often composite as well. The difference is that cheap ones are filled with sheetrock while the good ones are filled with high-strength cement that's loaded with all sorts of stuff to defeat grinding/drilling tools.

Here's a good example, this is a real deal TL-30 safe, something that would cost over $10k new. It doesn't take them all that long to get through the outer skin of the door but the concrete fill takes serious effort to get through.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtbGUbeM860

It's quite smart because the kind of tools that cut metal are quickly defeated by hard abrasive materials like stone, and vice-versa: tools that cut stone don't do well with steel, so by using composite construction you force attackers to have to use multiple different tools in sequence. If the concrete itself is filled with stuff like ball bearings, bits of tungsten carbide, chunks of rubber, etc, it becomes a real bastard to get through.
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Is this the ultimate shady hat?
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>>65172051
Forgot image
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Can you actually use Riggers belts for rappelling? More importantly since i like the infinite adjustment of those belts what would be the higher end belt to get for the sake of longevity?
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>>65172208
It is in desert tiger stripe.
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>>65172208
The chillba from Kavu offers ho chi minh trail proven shade but that wizard hat is stiff competition. Either will do a fine job.

Are there vents like a boonie hat has in the crown of that swiss battlemage job?
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>>65172208
AlpenWizard, I like it!
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I saw some sort of antique long gun at the thrift store, it looked a bit like the one in this pic and it had a lot of intricate mother of pearl inlay.
It was only 25 bucks, should I go back and get it? It's probably just a decorative piece but still looked like based craftsmanship.
Anyone here knows anything about such weapons and how I can identify if better? Maybe what it might be worth?
(As you can tell, I know nothing about guns and just thought it looked neat and that I should ask the /k/ pros)
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>>65173499
Most likely what you saw was some flavor of Jezail. They were made in the middle east by locals re-using existing locks, usually British. Sometimes the barrel is locally made too though often it is also the original British (or whatever). They usually highly decorated but the workmanship is typically not very good. Your pic is a great example. Notice how all those little inlaid bits are rather crudely shaped. The round dots aren't actually round. The little cross-shaped pieces are highly irregular. It's not smooth and there are little gaps everywhere.
It's impossible to speak to the value without seeing pics. Most of them aren't worth much at all. They aren't popular with collectors, they're usually in shit condition with shit workmanship. That said, there ARE nice ones that were made by someone with a bit more skill than Ahmed the illiterate goat-herder but the chance of stumbling across something like that is pretty low.

The other problem with Jezails is dating them. Some are well over a century old, others are modern fakes made to trick tourists into buying them.

So all that said, it's probably not worth much, but $25 isn't much, so if you like it it's honestly pretty hard to go wrong at that price.
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>>65173525
kek, yeah that checks out, thanks anon
the store isn't open again until tomorrow but I might go back to get some pics or just take it with me
I've spent 25 bucks for sillier things before
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Hey, /k/. Hobbyist breaking into the scene- just got picrel. I know it’s turkshit but I think it’s neat for an on shit/breacher fun. Anyways i have a month to cut down the stock or put a folder and pistol grip on it. Anyone know of a kit thats compatible or have general advice ?
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>>65173617
Turkshit guns like tend not to have aftermarkets so I doubt anyone makes a kit. Also, are you sure it's even possible to cut down the stock? Semis usually have the recoil spring located inside the butt which greatly complicates the idea of a pistol-grip-only or folding stock.
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>>65142446
>how to remove mothball stink from fabric?
Washing normally, time and ventilation. Ozone and other more extreme methods risk damaging your equipment.
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>>65173617
>i have a month to cut down the stock
Jigsaw, 10 min.
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>>65144071
>Is it possible to eat on 5 bucks a day?
Get a rice cooker with steam tray. Cook rice (add/swap lentils and beans as desired) in the bottom and steam vegetables and chicken in the steam tray. Alternatively everything can be cooked together without the steam tray. Cook time about 30min. If you want to get fancy you can add items to the steam tray in the last 5 or 15 minutes so they're more tender.

With spices, vinegar and condiments the end result is quite good. Rice and dry beans are inexpensive and keep in a cabinet for a very long time. Chicken can be frozen or purchased frozen and will last in the freezer. Frozen vegetables will also last for a long time in the freezer meaning that you can stock up on ingredients and don't have to worry about ingredients spoiling.

Remember that while lentils don't require soaking, you will often improve them by soaking and discarding the water. Dry beans should be soaked and the water discarded (pour on your plants). Beans have some enzymes that interfere with digestion that you leech out by soaking.
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>>65144071
>Is it possible to eat on 5 bucks a day?
Yes. A $3 Wendy's 2026 frosty tag (single purchase), good all year, and a $3.99 Dave's single + tax = $4.36. Ymmv. You're probable too fat anyway.
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>>65172243
The problem with using a rigger's belt for rappelling is that there isnt much besides velcro and a little friction thats holding the belt closed around your waist. You're probably fine until you get a darwin award. Also you only have the belt around your waist and the suspension of the ass part of your pants to support you unlike a swiss seat or harness which have both waist and thigh support. You would still need a large carabiner and figure 8 to connect to the d-ring of your rigger belt.

Overall just carry some rope to tie a swiss seat since you're already carrying the rope from which you rappel and the carabiner and figure 8 hardware.
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I am new to the tacticool larper community. So how stupid is it to place the finger grip like this? Feels comfy for me.
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>>65165019
>What states are FRTs/Super Safeties for sure illegal in?
I'm surprised that FRT are legal, they're not machine guns but if the trigger is 4lb and the forced reset is 7lb then tensioning a 5lb rubber band or spring would result in automatic fire.
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>>65172243
>use Riggers belts for rappelling
Come on man.
https://www.canyoneeringusa.com/techtips/swiss-seat-webbing-harness
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>>65173678
>Feels comfy
Just do what you like. There isn't a rule against that.
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>>65144757
>forced to eat significant quantities of poverty foods like beans, rice, lentils
Why did you not include potatoes in your "poverty" list? It is too easy to supplement these staples with fresh greens, vegetables and fruits.

You should be adapting your caloric intake for your level of activity anyways. Eat more carbs if you need more calories. Eat fewer carbs if you don't. Protien and fat are more constant maintenance requirements to support muscle and general health.
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>>65173650
Had the same thought, probably going to add a sling mount on the rear grip and throw on a single point bungee or lanyard. Anyone else have ideas for a cheap upgrade besides a light
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>>65173678
Depends how you are holding it. If its a finger stop great. If its you gripping it like a mini forgrip seems like an easy way to accidentally slip and burn yourself on a hot barrel.
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>>65172255

They have a bunch of choices
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>>65174501
>They have a bunch of choices
>miami tiger stripe
Gay choices.
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>>65173531
>>65173499
If you do get it, the first thing you need to do is run a bullet-pulling screw down the barrel. I've bought half-a-dozen used BP guns, and pulled four live charges out of them. Two of those were out of the same gun.
>Is it safe
Probably not.
>How can I identify it
Look for proof marks on the barrel and lock-plate. If you're lucky it's built off of a trade action. If not the origin is some random Arab or Pashtun hillbilly gunsmith
>what's it worth
Probably more than $25. If I bought it I'd pull and clean the barrel, if there weren't any bulges or pits then throw a proof charge in it outside the stock and see what happens. If it has significant pitting inside or outside, then congrats on your new wallhanger. Maybe save up for a replacement barrel or sleeve it into a squirrel gun if you're really desperate to shoot it.

>>65173656
>>65144071
If you're willing to give up a weekend "workday" a couple times a month you can save quite a lot of money over time. I buy a lot of stuff in bulk and shop around between stores.
Pork is cheap as fuck (right now it's running $1.50 to $3 a pound for loins, shoulders, and cushions in my area: chicken is about $2, beef is cruising towards $10). You can freeze it or make decent sausage with minimal effort. Trimming and rendering the excess fat off a roast is like making stock out of chicken carcasses. Kind of a pain, but you can squeeze a couple extra meals out of "waste" and freeze up several to do in one batch. Also, pre-rendered lard is usually like a third of the price of either butter or margarine and makes great pie crusts/biscuits/tamales.
Mint, sage, oregano, and chives grow like weeds (because they are) in a lot of the temperate zone. Hang them up to dry and then store 'em in jars or Ziplocks. You can harvest fruit in the fall, keep an eye out for edible berries and rosemary people have planted as landscaping, that sort of thing. Hell, if you're lucky there's a food bank in the area
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Shotgun life

Don't even ask how many shot shells that took
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600€ too much?
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Is one 30mm ring enough to hold this Sig Aimpoint-at-home securely?
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>>65175513
on a .22 plinker, maybe. On things with recoil I'd add a second one to the back.
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>>65173691
Thanks Anon.

>>65173744
I put my index finger on that thing. That way I can get the rifle better in my should er. It's a too tiny for a foregrip. A foregrip would be even better but the rifle (or the LOP) ist too short for an angled grip and a 90° grip somehow ruins the look and compactness.
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>>65175817
The only spot where the rings fit is where it's attached in the pic. Body is too wide everywhere else to fit the second ring, at least for the 30mm rings I have. Do I have to buy a 1 inch ring for it?
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I can't find the old ass website where the writer posted recipes for Ed's Red, different diy oils, and in general a lot of weird DIY type stuff

anyone know what I'm talking about?
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Hi, I have a question. Do suppressors reduce bullet velocity?
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>>65178958
>Do suppressors reduce bullet velocity?
no, they improve it, very slightly but it do give them a push
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>>65178962
>no
Thank you. That's what I thought.
>they improve it, very slightly but it do give them a push
For real? I've never heard about this before.
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>>65142446
I unlocked that camo in Battlefield 6.
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>>65178966
its essentially a longer barrel
not the same exact fps contribution as a barrel but the the gas is still trapped in the suppressor until the bullet exits.
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>>65178958

On the contrary, they make the bullets slightly faster. The length of the suppressor keeps the pressure behind the round exiting the chamber, giving it extra oomph. According to vidya though, it reduces damage
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>>65178987
>>65178996
I see, thank you.
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>>65178996
>According to vidya though, it reduces damage
the reduces damage thing is justified by well now its shooting subsonics instead of normal ammo.
though its not like they say this ammo was standard 9mm and now its subs,
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>>65179022

Idk, I've seen the ballistic gel tests and it seems like no matter what grain it is (115, 124, 147, etc.), getting hit with a projectile would hurt... a lot
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>>65179022
I wish more games would make ammo choice part of the weapon experience. I've seen RPGs do this, both in fantasy and sci-fi settings, but it seems to be less of a thing in action games.
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>>65179022
>>65179037
I miss MW19 so fucking much. What a gun build wet dream it was.
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>>65179037
Try Synthetik (the original, no idea if the sequel is worth playing yet).
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>>65179037

Ready or Not lets you pick between FMJ or JHP for your loadouts, but thats about as far as the minutae goes
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Why is my cz457 so tight. I put a 22 bore snake through it once and it got stuck part way, had to pull so hard to get it the rest of the way through that I never want to use it again. Buying a 17-20 cal rod and both .20 cal and .22 cal jags/brushes, and an adapter if I end up using the .22 cal jag and brushes. How is it so tight when it shoots the same cartridges as every other .22
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Best camouflage pattern for terrain like picrel? I'm thinking 6 color desert mostly because of the rocks scattered around.
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>>65179068
>>65179082
>>65179152
Intravenous 2 mogs all of these.
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The caps on my red dot sight are seized. I can't tell what it is, if its the metal retention straps seized to the caps, if the threads are seized, or, for the battery compartment, if the battery is corroded. Either way, I need to get into them and I've already marked up more finish than I'd have liked with pliers. Maybe this is more of a question for /diy/, but what is the best way for me to get into the caps and get them unscrewed?
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>>65184664

I've seen people utilize glue in the caps to get a better grip but your experience may differ
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>>65184664
That's impossible to answer properly without pics.
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>>65184667
I wanna avoid screwing with the caps as much as possible. Mostly because I am very clumsy. At this point I think I'm gonna have to buy some penetrant oil. If THAT doesn't work, I may just be forced to buy a whole new red dot.

>>65184689
I don't think anything short of a video would do and I don't want to have to go through the whole process of converting to WebM especially when my phone camera is high-res so it'd be a huge pain in the ass.
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>>65184693
A pic will tell me more than you think. I have a zillion questions to ask, looking at a pic answers most of them.
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>>65184787
Nevermind, I did figure it out. Yes, it was the retention strap, I just needed to hold in place while unscrewing the caps.
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>>65142446
HK P30 with or without safety? Safety is kind of pointless for me but it has the shorter more aesthetic slide stop.
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Hypothetically speaking, in some very unlikely distant future, drones apart, i'm afraid I could have to face some ISIS-tier rampaging militias, going from villages to villages inflincting bad things to average random folks like myself. So i'm wondering ; how would you arm a peaceful countryside family composed by a father, a mother (who has zero interest in gun culture), three sons and a daughter (who has zero interest in gun culture). Let's say all kids are above 18-20 yo and are able-bodied. I was thinking either 556 ARs for everyone, or 556 ARs for men and bolt-actions 556 or 308 for women. I'm I wrong ? Btw I understand the only way to seriously oppose such militias would be organized gated communities and all. Hypothetically speaking, right.
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>>65184664
If it's the battery compartment cap, the battery might have leaked.
Or cap could be cross threaded.
Pics would be helpful.
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>>65185298
We're all good now, see: >>65184816
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>>65185194
In this scenario there wouldn't be any advantage for having bolt action 5.56mm rifles, so just stick with ARs for everyone to maintain commonality of controls/performance/parts. A 308 could have some capabilities to augment 5.56mm performance, like longer range but if the objective is defense it's hard to say what the utility of that added range would be. You should be fighting to deter, or fighting to escape and in both instances volume/suppression/light weight matters more than range. Having a battle rifle or two available might have some situational advantages for defense depending on the terrain.

One thing I would advise not overlooking would be handguns. Things can break down in a lot of different ways, where there are still some ad hoc power structures in place but violence is commonplace. That creates a situation where you benefit from being armed but having a visible weapon only turns you into a bullet magnet, so concealment is vital. For instance having to pass through an armed military or militia checkpoint as part of a crowd. With a concealed handgun you can probably get through no problem. With a rifle in your hands or slung on your back there's no way.
That was a big takeaway from an anon that was posting from Libya. His AK-103 was only good for HD, his much less impressive Beretta M1935 was a lifeline when going outside.
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>>65185468
>not overlooking would be handguns
Yes. I wasn't focusing on that part because i'm convinced I'd, hypothetically speaking, give any of my folks a stock 9mil Glock. I'd say, from the top of my head, used stock G17/G19/G45/G26. Well, in sum, the most basic available stuff I could find, with the largest aftermarket and spare parts availability, really.
>just run ARs like anyone else bro
Yep, you are probably right. As is your analysis. I should probably add a battle rifle if I can afford it, but this whole mad fantasy would in fact cost me a fricking lot.
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>>65185550
As long as you are in the US the economies of scale on basic bitch AR-15s are so overpowered that there is going to be an immense cost to performance gulf between it and anything else. If you shop around you can kitbash functional militia tier ARs for under $400 a pop, so cheap that they are effectively disposable yet effective enough to be a major problem for anyone on the receiving end. If you are in a different country where AKs are cheaper that might be the smarter move instead, but most /k/ posters are in the US.

For handguns, if you are going to be handing them off you probably want to go cheaper than Glock and you are still spoiled for choice even if you want to maintain parts/magazines compatibility.
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>>65185748
I absolutely agree, but i'm no US person. PSA ARs or PSA AKs are now sold in my country. For 1700 US buckst a piece. WBP AKs go for around the same. So... Yeah. Just so you know. Same shit with PSA Daggers btw. No, really, about handguns, it would be used Glocks or nothing, it's the only cheap reliable model you can find. About ARs/AKs, nothing is cheap.
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Posting here too >>65185701
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>>65185832
That does change the math a bit. I'd focus on handguns first and branch out to rifles over time as budget and training permits. If rifles are cheap there's no downside to buying them and catching up on training down the road, but if they're expensive it makes more sense to only get one if the person shooting it is going to have the time and training to use it effectively.
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>>65186008
I do get the point regarding starting with handguns. I could in fact find 6 used glocks in almost perfect condition tomorrow morning for around 400 bucks for gen4, 500 for gen5 in any gunstore. More or less I mean. And that would be some money still. That wouldn't be the case for any used ok-tier AR tho. One more problem would be : no 2nd Amendment. I mean : if the overall situation goes sideways one day, I wouldnt bet on my government to leave average honest folks the right to keep buying horribad fascist guns. Which means I'd have to commit at some point, financially speaking, before some serious shit happens. I mean you can't get stuck without any rifle.
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>>65186008
>>65186069
Now i'm thinking about it, the cheapest long guns available would be 6 used turkish Winchester SXPs. I could probably buy 6 of them for less than a single AR-15. But regarding efficiency...
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budget .22lr rifle recommendation?

Considering a savage mk ii. Is it worth just saving for CZ / tikka?
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>>65184816
NTA but in the future if anything like that gets actually stuck due to corrosion, either 2 position adjustable pliers or Channel locks work wonders. Vise Grips tend to really chew and deform caps. I use PB Blaster to wick into the threads and a toothpick and maybe sharp metal pick to scrape battery crust. But dripping and wicking oil into threads and wiggling said stuck cap back and forth over a couple days usually breaks it free. Sometimes you have to tighten stuck fasteners a hair to get them unstuck so you can loosen them as well. Also look into soft jaw Channel Locks to prevent marring.
t. fixed a Russian POSP scope someone left the battery in for ~30 years
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>>65185924
If nothing in the immediate area around those parts are plastic, a heat gun on medium heat helped me get a stuck silencer base off a barrel recently. And some tapping while warm. And a Channel Lock and a strap wrench. Depends on how much space you have and what marring you're willing to do. Fucking manufacturers not making wrench flats on parts that WILL get stuck, I swear.
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>>65186219
What is "budget" in this context? What is your use case? What distance(s) will you often shoot at? I'm looking for a 22WMR rifle and I've already gotten a decent 22LR rifle. The 10/22 is great, cheap, and has enough aftermarket that you can make it into anything you want. It's also surprisingly accurate and the new ones come with upgraded BX triggers standard. If you want a bolt action or something slightly nicer, buy a CZ457. CZ just frustrates me with their lack of threaded options. The MKII also isn't bad AFAIK.
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Anyone know what the real world or closest real world equivalent to this uniform and gear would be?
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>>65142446
How much of a pain in the dick is it to get a suppressor through Sportsmans Warehouse? Still undecided whether to get a .22lr, 9mm, or 7.62x39 can. Are we still waiting like half a year for the paperwork and shit to process?
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>>65186448
>I'm looking for a 22WMR rifle
NTA, but what is your use case for .22 Mag? I think we all know why 22LR makes so much sense so I'm not going to bother to repeat it. And yeah, sometimes you need a cartridge with more power if you want to hunt game that's a bit big for .22LR, but why not pick something like .22 Hornet or even .223 at that point? It seems like you're targeting a very narrow niche where .22WMR is appropriate but something like.22 Hornet is "too much gun". What am I missing?
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How is this legally considered a brace?
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>>65186620
Looks like a US pistol belt in black with a newer metal buckle; not sure what the equivalent would be but the regular black nylon buckle would work. Looks like a jumpsuit under; might be able to get away with a US mechanic's coverall or a US Vehicle Crewman's coverall. May have to dye either one to get that exact color. Or go Rothco as they tend to have all types of colors available. You'll have to iron it to get those creases down the front of the legs. Boots may also be old USGI black leather boots, hard to tell.

>>65186986
Hasn't been a year for over a year IIRC. Looks like ATF claimed avg is 6 days on a form 4. I've never gone through a chain store for something like that so it's hard to say. A downside I can think of is I doubt they'll give you your digital prints if you want to form 1 something later unlike what a LGS might do. Also get a 22 can; it's stupid fun on a 10/22.
https://www.atf.gov/resource-center/current-processing-times

>>65187295
Something a little better than 22LR but not quite 223. Basically:
>better for fox
>better for groundhog
>probably won't wreck pelts or meat quite like 223 if I need that option
>quite a lot better when it comes to drop; past 100, 22LR drops hard
>being in-between, while pricier than 22LR (~18-25cpr), allows me to practice with the same ammo I hunt with, unlike 223 where my options are to practice with 40cpr M855 or shoot fucking $1/rd hunting ammo
>the CZ will be just a little more accurate than my 10/22
>the CZ can be my dedicated "long" rifle while I can put my 10/22 together to be as compact and comfy for long hikes as I need it to be
>option to get into .17 if I don't end up liking 22WMR with a barrel and mag swap
>I'm going to silence it and I know it'll be reasonable to hunt with without muffs or ear plugs
I also already have an AR so I have the option. Frankly a silenced 16" isn't a bad option. Even with a 30 cal silencer I've heard one that I'd be comfortable hunting with without ear pro.
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>>65187708
>>better for fox
>>better for groundhog
Better how? At short range it wrecks pelts. If you're wanting to shoot at distances where .22LR is hard to hit vitals with the magnum isn't really going to help you, it still has the same shitty bullets and thus the same sort of accuracy as .22LR.
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>>65186128
Those are perfectly fine pump action shotguns given that they are just Winchester 1300s but made in Turkey. Only trouble is that they are shotguns rather than rifles so you don't have the same capabilities.

The point about not having a 2A also matters because anything you buy is registered and can be confiscated if they feel like it one day. Does that apply to black powder like a Uberti replica? In some EU countries there is still no paperwork or registration for those.
>>65186219
I'd save for the CZ, they are really nice.
Savage is cheap and feels cheap. It doesn't shoot poorly, but you'll notice the difference holding the two.
>>65187355
It's a very vague gray distinction. Naturally once braces got approved everyone and their cousin started to make the closest thing possible to a stock while arguing it's a brace. Even if they send a copy of it to the ATF for evaluation and they approve it they can 180 on that approval later, which they do all the time.

It's all the more reason to drop the NFA altogether, starting with SBRs and suppressors but we saw how that went for now. The tax is gone but the onerous paperwork, registration and enforcement isn't.
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ok ok ok...I got an idea. The army wants a better performing round for its battle rifle, more punch, more distance, better penetration, trying to keep the same general size, weight, ammo capacity...so take the 5.45x45 and up neck size it 115/124 grain 9x45? Same overall length, heavier bullet than the 77/90 grain 5.45, only slightly slower, better ballistic coefficient and sectional density, plenty of 9mm bullet designs that have developed and proven....eh eh? An intermediate cartridge between teh 5.45 and 308
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Wumbologist if you can hear me

I know you're from CA originally; did you ever see any sort of G3/HK91 clone for sale in your state? I'm from CT and I know we have pretty much the same statutes, so I'm thinking if you've seen one for sale then I should be able to order/own one here also. A compliant one with the fin grip I mean. I think I've seen a FAL build for sale here with the fin grip before. Officially it says any clone/variant of the HK91 is not allowed, but the same goes for any FAL clones so I'm not sure how that actually works. Maybe it depends on the store's interpretation. Seeing one for sale in person should be proof enough but I'd like to know what you think.
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>>65164372
Yes, stop sucking so much man meat in the back of the Denny's parking lot after your shift is over.
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>>65190090
>in the back of the Denny's parking lot
Is this really a thing? Asking for a friend.
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>>65190471
Nah go waffle house.
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>>65173617
>>65173650
>>65173705

Make sure the recoil system doesn't use a "tail" that goes into the stock. You don't want to cut that.
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>>65189920

Not him but I see PTR G3 clones at Turner's all the time in CA. Fin grips and all.
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>>65189342
Necking up 5.56mm won't give you enough case capacity to achieve the pressure/velocity/range/penetration that is desired. That's why a smaller diameter projectile in a necked down 7.62x51mm case is the approach they are currently going for.
>>65189920
I have owned a C308 and currently own what was originally a CA spec PTR-91 A3SK that was new old stock overflow. I have also visited California recently as part of a job working in the firearms industry and saw PTR-91s for sale at almost every gun store I checked on.

What is probably confusing you is the Roberti-Roos assault weapon ban list and accompanying provision that alterations of guns in that list are also banned. The ban list is very old and most guns on it have had a name change since that time, the provision for "guns like the HK-91 are banned too" is still on the books, but can't be enforced because a court decision many years ago struck it down as being too broad/vague. Technically you can argue by that logic that an SL7 is an HK-91.

To get a PTR-91 in California you just buy a CA spec model with the fin grip, blank non-flash-hider and 10rd magazine. If ordering online I recommend checking Atlantic Firearms but also check with your LGS because the out the door price buying from them via special order might be cheaper than doing a transfer, especially if you have a good rapport and they are willing to make a deal below the regular MSRP.
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>>65191178
Thanks dude I checked again and there's actually a PTR91 for sale on my local pawn shop's website so undoubtedly legal. Still probably going to order the exact model I want online.

I've never ordered something potentially non-compliant before, would I have to specifically buy one that already has a fin grip etc. or can I do some sort of middleman thing to have a decent fin grip etc. that I want installed with it beforehand (e.g. thumb shelf)? Or how does special ordering work? To reiterate I'm in CT
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>>65191430
>or can I do some sort of middleman thing to have a decent fin grip etc. that I want installed with it beforehand (e.g. thumb shelf)?
You can attempt to do this but 99 times out of 100 you will be told to fuck off or no reply at all. And the few who are will make you pay dearly.
It really is easier to find with a fin already installed.
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>>65191430

Middleman shit is expensive. There's a few places that mostly do it for CA and NY but they're few and far between, and price themselves accordingly, like around a grand or more depending on what they have to do.
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>>65191439
Of course I can swap the fin out when no one's looking yeah? Maybe I need to quit thinking like an autist. I'd just need to find a finned one with the compliant barrel which I assume all finned ones are
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>>65191457

Just realize that a lot of LEOs know when to catch people when they think no one is looking, ESPECIALLY if they are doing something loud like shooting in the desert or other places they think are private/secluded. For example in CA game wardens cruise known shooting spots on/near BLM land looking for violators, and catch people regularly who thought nobody was looking or would even be around.

For most people it's not worth jail, and if they live deep enough in the desert to enjoy that kinda thing the NV/AZ borders are close enough to just take a day trip to take the fin grip off for a few hours and blast trash.
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>>65191464
I'm not saying I'd necessarily do something like that. Nuh uh nope not me. I meant swapping whatever fin grip it comes with for the one I want (which happens to be removable in seconds)

I do have a soft spot specifically for the PTR/JLD company they used to manufacture only about a mile from where I grew up lol. I'm going to try looking for an older model made in CT I heard the oldest ones are the best and even made with spare G3 parts in some cases.
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>>65191178
>won't give you enough case capacity to achieve the pressure/velocity/range/penetration that is desired.
Is there modelling software for this? Why not use more energetic faster burning powder to get those rookie numbers up for the desired velocity? Or just use smoothbore
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why did they worship the 30-06?
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would several t35 with heat rounds firing at a modern tank frontal armor(the tank wont fire back or move) in the same spot eventualy be able to breach its armor?
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>>65188789
>Winchester 1300s but made in Turkey
Granted they are a-ok. And cheap. Cheapest ok-tier used 12 gauge in my country by far, like 250 bucks cheap (a brand new Moss88 goes for 650). But I wouldn't trust my wife and daughter to handle 12 gauge. Sons would be ok I guess.
>no 2A
Of course. But somehow I figure when the time of confiscation comes, blue people could have more urgent problems to deal with. Like the very same people I fear might some day go sideways very hard, compared to random average family men who own couple guns. But maybe im wrong. Maybe everything will be confiscated so sideways people can kill us without any risk. Maybe that would be the whole point.
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>>65191869
>Is there modelling software for this?
Yes. The two most common programs are Quickload and GRT (Gordon's Reloading Tool)
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Do guns chambered for .223 actually work with 5.56 and vice versa? Or will they sustain damage in the long run? How about .308 and 7.62?
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>>65192901

First result on Google: https://www.nssf.org/articles/223-vs-556-are-they-interchangeable/
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>>65192909
OK nigga I was hoping for some personal anecdotal experiences I know what the rule of thumb is already.
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>>65193209
nta but I've shot both out of my gun and it's been fine. the pressure difference isn't that big.
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Is the extar ep9 as bad as the price would suggest? Should I just shell out twice the price for a kuna instead? And wtf is the deal with that panzer han9 that just came out?
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>>65192901
Rule of thumb is if it’s chambered in 5.56 it’ll shoot both fine, if it’s chambered in .223 you probably shouldn’t shoot 5.56. Is this fuddlore? Not sure but it’s what I’ve always been told and I don’t own anything chambered in .223 anyway
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I will not sit here and act like I know very much about ballistics about ballistics
Is there any real benefit to hollow points in rifle calibers (namely intermediate calibers, .223, 7.62x39)? Is there any real difference in effects or is it just a novelty that preys on those who don’t know better?
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>>65142446
What exactly do you guys see when you shoot both eyes open? All the graphics I see of this technique like pic related always show the "phantom image" from the non-dom eye being present but the dominant eye's sight picture is always clear. In practice for me both images are always a bit fuzzy and I end up losing most of the rear sight completely at times. Am I simply not focusing enough on the front sight?

I have a pretty impactful case of astigmatism and I've always wondered if this is the case, most of the time I end up partially closing my non-dom eye and I get a clearer sight picture that way
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>>65193884
>What exactly do you guys see when you shoot both eyes open?
I see everything clearly with both eyes because I use greed dot sights. Just try it and see the difference.
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>>65193844
Enormous difference although those 2 specific examples ironically are designed to tumble when they hit flesh and mimic a soft point so it's not as different as most examples
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>>65194662
>Just try it and see the difference
yeah I wonder how much a difference a red dot will make, I've only ever shot with irons
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>>65194684
>I wonder how much a difference a red dot will make
Yuge difference. I used to guy the smaller ones but now the trend is bigger windows. I dont need to worry about size or concealment so I have been changing to ones with larger windows. My eyesight is slowly degrading so just looking though the window and focusing on the target at any distance is much faster and clearer. Just look through someone's set up to see the difference.
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I want to put together a med kit for long-term storage, and I can't find an out of the box one that's useful. It's all Temu dog shit.

Does anyone know of a comprehensive list I can read up on of meds and chemicals and other supplies I should go and get to have on hand in case of an actual emergency? Think living in a cabin inna woods or weather disaster scenario where you might not be able to count on the hospital for a few days/a week.
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>>65194705
BZK or similar disinfecting wipes, disposable gloves, magnifier, permanent marker, EMT shears, thermometer (not battery operated), mini flashlight, super glue, common OTC medications (aspirin, ibuprofen, benadryl, immodium, pepto, claritin, cough syrup, etc.) Epi-pen, bandaids of varying sizes, triple antibiotic ointment, antifungal ointment, Tincture of benzoin, USP Strong Iodine Tincture, triangle bandage, safety pins, safety razors, sterile gauze pads and rolls, medical tape, ace bandage, bottle of eye wash, eye drops, butterfly closures, sting-eez swabs, toothache gel, moleskin, hydrocortizone cream, cough drops, vaseline, SAM splint, instant cold packs. Eyeglasses repair kit. A good BOOK on emergency medicine so you can read it without wasting your limited phone battery.

Tools:
Dental mirror
Dental pick
Nail clippers/nippers, the type that look like pliers
#3 scalpel handle and assorted blades
Swiss pattern #3 tweezers (excellent for removing ticks and splinters)
A couple pairs of forceps
Iris scissors
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>>65194705
I usually get one or two kits and buy separate stuff to replace the useless stuff and get important things.
>band-aids
>bandages and pads
>tape and safety pins
>triangular bandages
>cotton buds
>mirror
>disinfecting wipes and bottle of disinfectant
>tournequets
>space blankets
>pain killers, allergy meds and flu meds
>scissors, tweezers etc.
>a flashlight and a head lamp
>splints
>books about medicine
>IFAK stuff
>gloves, hand sanitizer and face masks of surgical or of protective type
>eye patch, yarr
What I have in my kit. Most likely things are bleeds from your own knife and a flu of sorts. And remember to keep clean hands/wounds. IFAK for serious stuff. And don't forget to replace out of date items/check the kit regularly.
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>>65194705
To add to the other lists, research "expedition medicine", people traveling to places in the middle of nowhere for scientific research often have to prepare for emergencies like this and there are good resources for that that aren't infested with advertising. Picrel is the gold standard reference book. Another good resource is to study what ships carry for emergencies. International law requires that vessels in the merchant marine have an onboard 'medicine chest' with a specific checklist of supplies.
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>>65191872
Because it is the only hunting cartridge you will ever need in North America. 30 ought, 12g, and a 22 plinker/varmint rifle is the essential "frontier household" firearms suite.
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>>65194705
>an actual emergency?
take training on wilderness first aid.
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>>65195109
Any suggestions for storage? NTA but like you said most kits have useless stuff which makes it really nice to have something with eventual good organization.
t. Trying to make a range bag for the first time
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>>65193844
HP/SP loads for rifle calibers allow for rapid breakup of the projectile inside a soft target resulting in far better energy transfer.

So for instance a 7.62x51mm FMJ will go clean through a person, creating massive cavitation but wasting some energy going out the other side. It's great if you want to fuck somebody up through a brick wall but doesn't use all of the energy it has when it hits. An HP/SP load in the same caliber will deform/yaw/fragment on impact dumping much more of its energy resulting in far more internal damage and typically a more rapid stop. This is why FMJ is typically not allowed or recommended for hunting, a humane one shot stop is the objective.

>>65194669
With 223/5.56mm yes, but it still fragments/tumbles more reliably at lower velocities than with FMJ. The idea there was to punch above it's caliber by having an FMJ load that was moving fast enough to destabilize without using a hollow point which is prohibited under the Gauge Convention. This only worked with adequate muzzle velocity which requires a long barrel, lightweight load and reasonable distance. With the gradual transition towards 14.5"-16" carbines and heavier 62gr M855 this type of under-performance started to become a problem, but if you are not a military then hollow points can give you some of that performance back. Specialty tactical loads such as Hornady TAP Urban are popular for home defense and police use for this reason, plus their reduced propensity for going through walls.

Soviets did a similar trick with 5.45 by having an empty cavity under the nose of the bullet jacket. Yugos did that same thing with their 7.62x39mm load, but most 7.62x39mm used by other countries had conventional projectiles. In fact, when Russian imported 7.62x39mm was popular their SP load was known as an extremely good performer with amazing energy transfer. It was the go-to for budget hog/deer hunting, typically with an SKS or a WASR-10/63.
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>>65196929
>Gauge Convention
Autocorrect attacked, it's the Hauge Convention.
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>>65196898
Well I use everything from off-the-shelf first aid pouches, to milsurp bags, to plastic containers with good lids. It really depends on what you have to use and what you want to carry around and what you want to store in the home.
For range use I have just a milsurp IFAK pouch with IFAK items and a small off-the-shelf first aid set modified with meds and smaller boo boo items. I've learnt that mostly you just cover cut fingers or cure headaches with that. And usually it's someone I know that comes asking for a pill to cure the headache. Makes me feel like I'm the nurse :DD
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>>65142446
Why do most modern revolvers (basically anything without a big chunky barrel) look so gay compared to the old black powder revolvers? There's just something about that extra bit under the barrel where the loading lever is that just makes it look sexy.
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>>65196898
I use a small zippered pouch for the most common stuff and I have everything else in one of those roll-up travel bags. I have a carabiner on each one so I can clip it to a larger pack if necessary. The roll-up bag is great because you can easily see and access all the contents. In the past I've used those European style fold-out tool boxes, they work well too though they're boxy with hard square corners so they are less convenient to carry.

When I was in scouts my troop was really heavily into first aid; several of the scoutmasters were EMTs, another was a doctor and another was actually a trauma surgeon. They used two large fishing tackle boxes for the troop's first aid stuff. That was quite some time ago so maybe that was the best option at the time but I didn't think that was all that good of solution because it had too many small compartments and not enough larger ones. The result was that smaller items were divided up among multiple compartments which made it a hassle to keep organized.



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