now they are armed with r-60s
>>65172499Looks like my latest ksp creation
anyone know what's up with the panels on the wings?
>>65172499>now they are armed with r-60sNow?They've been putting them on drones for a year or more now. That's probably a Gerber too, sneeds just go boom, Gerber seems to be the multi-purpose platform that they do everything other than boom on.Decoys, reconnaissance, a2a missiles, mines... it seems to go on Gerbers.>>65172516>what's up with the panels on the wings?Winglets, possibly dual-rudders.You'll notice that there's no central rudder with which to yaw.
>>65172499but that just doubles the cost to launch it for a combat scenario it might not even run into
>>65172538>Winglets, possibly dual-rudders.no
>>65172516>>65172548I think theyre just out of streamlined panels.
>>65172516>>65172548The airframes are molded from a single piece of plastic. Those panels are how they get the parts inside. They're deformed from aero loads and being softened by the heat of the sun.
>>65172571>>65172603no budget for speed tape?
>>65172607>good Ole aluminum tape>nothing beats it for quick fixes
>>65172607Why bother? It flies.
>>65172516Im not sure of payload limits but is the R60 just heavy enough to warrant using fabric panels? If so I wonder what other weight savings are inside.
>>65172607Anon, you can clearly see tape on the side rudders.
>>65172499>several decades spent developing jet engines and other increasingly expensive and elaborate rube goldberg machines for air forces>turns out the solution to war is to spam simple cheap prop shits>all based on german design that was 50 years ahead of its timeIt's funny.
>>65172612so we're back where we startedwhat the hell is up with the janky ass panels?
>>65172650You were already told why those panels exist anon. See >>65172603
>>65172632Nah, real air forces are still the way to go. Spamming these looks impressive when the enemy has no aerial offensive capability besides, well, also spamming you with something like this in return.A real air force can bomb you from outside of your effective range. Good intelligence force multiplies any military, but it force multiplies a conventional air force more than basically other asset besides stuff like special forces.
>>65172499those fuselage patches look sketchy as fuck, a hobbyst modelist would make a better work
>>65172705They are very useful for saturating air defense and the only reason Ukrainian air defense hasn't suffered more is because of shitty russian doctrine and target intelligence gathering (not to belittle Ukrainian efforts to safe guard them of course). It's the same reason why Ukraine still has an active airforce. It's a similar argument to when tanks or aircraft turned up on the battlefield. Ultimately drones are just another tool to use and adapt against.
>>65172650>pretend to not understand things to epically pwn your geopolitical opponentall of you should be killed to be honest. all sophistry should be snuffed out.
>>65172661>>65172921why don't they just tape them up a little?
some detail shots of the access panels on LUCAS drones for comparisons sake
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>>65172632> turns out the solution to war is to spam simple cheap prop shitsRussia has been spamming sneedheads since 2022, did they achieve much?
>>65173114>Russia abandoning drives on Kupyansk and Zaporizhzhia >Russia is winningThis has to be a troll
>>65173114>winning against NATO>can't take Mala Tokmachkapick one
>>65173151if you measure wars like football matches with a score . now russia is a chinese vassal state cutted off from western markets
Why is something russia has been doing a long time being featured in a thread stating it is new such a common occurrence on /k/?
>>65173151Holy fucking shit I haven't kek'd this hard in fucking years.They don't even control all the territory they've taken. They still have partisans trying to fuck shit up. You are not just beyond retarded, you are the pinnacle of ziggertry.
>>65172650Russian manufacturing
>>65173151Not even Russians could spin the current frontlines as a victory.
>>65173114Yes cumrat, HATO is of very scared and understands everything from mighty poccnr bear still sitting at the edges of Bakhmut years after it was captured
>>65173140They may even lose Kamyanske next
>>65172611It's possible that they replaced the covers with thinner/lighter injection molded ones, which simply deform a lot more when they get warm and are under aerodynamic load.I sense a certain Russian 'good enough' philosphy here, why bother with making it pretty, if it works it works etc.
>>65172499we're finally in the sci fi future we were promised
>>65173151If you're retarded enough to think this war is a Russia-Ukraine thing, sure. But if you look at what Russian nationalists are aiming for, it's a serious defeat for Russia.
>>65173151>STOP THE COUNT STOP THE FUCKING COUNTthis IS a shitpost right anon...?
>>65172548Yeah, I realised what you meant a bit after I posted.They're for assembly, as for why they're bulging/pop out, partly >>65172603>They're deformed from aero loads and being softened by the heat of the sunBut also just poor build quality, which to be fair, they're not required to last very long.>>65172607>no budget for speed tape?Very unlikely.>>65172612>Anon, you can clearly see tape on the side rudders.Tape yes, speed tape? Unlikely.
>>65172705>A real air force can bomb you from outside of your effective range.Meanwhile...
>>65173064>Russia has been spamming sneedheads since 2022, did they achieve much?When they launch them against obvious strategic targets, like Kyiv's power plants, then they get limited results when used in mass numbers.Ukies have a 95%-ish shoot down on them but that does mean that in a big raid, a couple get through and fuck up a power plant.That power plant will be back up and running by midday usually so whether it's worth it is a judgement call and more and more Ukie infrastructure is required to have decentralised power generation as a matter of policy but damage is caused here and there.When less major targets are selected in regional cities and large towns, the strikes are more successful.You'll see a warehouse in Rivne or post-office in Poltava get fucked up pretty successfully because Ukies can't have their air defence literally everywhere and it can be overwhelmed in smaller and less critical locations.This is why the FSB is constantly trying to recruit terminal contrarians (Russified Ukrainians) to scout targets for them, because the FSB just can't get agents into the country in numbers to risk using them for this.Ukies routinely catch guys doing this btw, they just track these people going to target sites, stop them and search their phone and arrest them, so actual FSB agents would be at high risk.
>>65173151>>65173184>>65173284if you think this was about land you are mistaken hilariously mistakenopen a mineral map of ukraine then see how russia basicly control the second biggest lithium mine in europe and most than 90% of ukraine's uranium depositsthen if this wasnt enough you open an arrable map of ukraine and you see just how fucked ukraine is that most of 70% of their agriculture land is currently on russia's handno matter how the war ends if russia stays within their current land grab ukraine is fucking beyond repair they practically lost their entire economy NOW if russia gets only donbass as they want they will get a big piece of the arrable land all of lithium and some of the uranium you can see why they are willing to trade all of the rest of the land they have now just for donbass...
>>65173394>if you don't have miniral deposits and ariable land you are fuckedoh gee I wonder how the fucking dutch managed to get so fucking rich with any miniral deposits worth mentioning and needing to build greenhouses to produce their export agricultureit's almost like "muh natural resources" is the battle cry for a country who's entire economy resolves around extracting a handful of raw resources and that's stuck thinking like a 17th century colonial empire
>>65173164>cutted off
>>65173406>the ukranians have something worseYeah, Russians.
>>65173406>the Dutch don't have corruptionhahahahahahahahahahahahahahayou do know that a single disput (house) of a singel corp (fraternity) had a monopoly on ministry of finace for over a century and it only got ended in the 90ies. since then they've only held the position for half the gouvernements. but the other times the minster was just in an other corps
>>65173394>see how russia basicly control the second biggest lithium mine in europe and most than 90% of ukraine's uranium depositshow are they going to extract any of it when the entirety of that territory is under ukrainian fire control? they can barely get supplies to the front without it getting blown up and you think they're going to start building lithium mines?
>>65173394>if you think this is about land you are mistake>makes argument based on Russia seizing landThose reasources are useless to Russia without major repair and investment. And Russia can't even provide Donetsk city with clean water.Those fields are full of mines and debries and the people who worked them are gone. Those gas fields are useless because they need western tech to build the extraction and processing infrastructure and its all sanctioned. Their gas exports are sanctioned. They will never recoup the costs of this war from looting Ukrainian reasources.The invasion has ideological components and the Russians have been clear about this from day 1.
>>65173320I think any kind of tape would do, really
>>65174267>how are they going to extract any of it when the entirety of that territory is under ukrainian fire control? they can barely get supplies to the front without it getting blown up and you think they're going to start building lithium mines?
>>65174316>I think any kind of tape would do, reallyI would think so also but the question was about speed tape and from a certain perspective, it would be the appropriate choice and what a rich nation would do, making the question disputably relevant. So I answered it as written, which seemed more amusing to me at the time.
>>65174270>The invasion has ideological components and the Russians have been clear about this from day 1.>>65173394>if you think this was about land you are mistaken hilariously mistakenanons, there are many converging factors that motivated Putin, some geopolitical, some cultural, some ego related and some other psychologically related and yet other trade and finance and strategically militarily related...There are loads and loads of factors that pointed Putin towards this.Arguing about the comparative ranking is so ludicrously subjective that any agreement between you is impossible and nobody other than you two would actually care about convincing each other of your specific ranking of causal factors.You both make good arguments for why minerals and cultural/ego/legacy factors are important but it's quite pointless and probably impossible to actually prove one as being more important than the other.
