from 1942 on, was he a fuck up or smart?was "island hopping" VS big navy battle smart or stupid?didn't USA have overwhelming superiority in all warship, and land based aircraft, and army classes by start of 1943, so most likely would've won big navy battles pretty one sided, repeats of Midway but even more so?
What's up with all these "explain history to me" threads that've popped up recently? People asking "why was X tank good" or "why did Y weapon system develop the way it did"? Are these just slide threads because something got blown up?To answer OP's question, go read about him ordering GI's to just "fight harder" at Buna and Gona against dug-in Japs with zero artillery, two platoons of stuarts maybe (I think this was another battle, but either way, they were effective until they got knocked out by either 25mm fire, bogged down, or to close assault).
>>65178241If it was any other site but 4chan.edu I'd suspect engagement bait, so many thing of OP's are retarded
>>65178204Depends. Island hopping was retarded compared to Nimitz plan to seize at most 2 ports (Ulithi and Rabul), smash the IJN, then starve out the Japs. However that was pure military logic and would have taken longer (although been far less bloody for the USA) then decisive battle + operation starvation. This was less attractive to Truman who was facing reelection and wanted to end the war quickly, so MacArthurs strategy was more politically viable. But then as a collary to the collary, neither Nimitz nor MacArthur knew when proposing their strategies that FDR would die in office, and neither knew anything about the Manhattan project at the time, putting MacArthur back in the retard category. Then the 3x collary is the USN skull fucked the IJN into permanent loss of the innovative iniative within the first 7-8 months of the war, much faster than expected due to Pearl Harbor, so Nimitz could run his plan and MacArthur his at the same time without it really being an issue.
>>65178260>If it was any other site but 4chan.edu I'd suspect engagement baitit still could be. I've been seeing a conspiracy that a lot of the repetitive low quality threads are made by the jannies to boost engagement.
>>65178278*taken longer than island hopping
>>65178280*conspiracy theory
>>65178204Was MacArthur a nepobaby? I was reading about him and his dad was some bigwig in the military and his mom was a fixer of sorts, is it true that the blunders he got away with would've ended some other General's career but since he was connected everyone in Washington let it slide
If Japan's troop and transport capabilities weren't reduced in the Solomon Islands and New Guinea, there was a risk that they would be diverted to strengthening their bases in the Central Pacific. An increase in fierce ground battles like those at Peleliu and Iwo Jima would have been undesirable.
>>65178241its some quora-tier AI engagement bot that farms out questions and records answers.
>>65178430>someone is training AI on /k/That should at least keep us safe from AI world dominion, i guess
>>65178278>less attractive to Truman who was facing reelectionTruman only became president in March 1945, at which point the election was three and a half years away.
>>65178204>reddit spacingyou expect me to line hop like that? go back
>>65178321Is this from that Chinese movie about the Korean war that makes the Americans look like chads?
>>65178204Both were retarded. Should have just waited for the nuke then GG
>>65178241That's just posting. Before the cancer of constant generals and ukie /pol/ threads.
>>65178278OP here, I'm thinking maybe island hopping was the safe bet because it would eventually win due to greater US mass, even if it stumbled a few times and even had set backs, where as "epic navy battles" was seen as too risky since it was less predictable and MAYBE Japs had a few more tricks up their sleeve, or just good luck and enough high skilled operators. Pearl Harbor went how it did because it was planned to. Midway was largely dumb luck for USA and could've easy gone the other way, even with US code breaking.USN gets clobbered in blue water in 1943 or even '44. Then what?Why offer the Japs the only situation in which they could come out biggly on top?Even if Japs started to "win" an island hopper they'd still be losing because it would suck resources they can't afford, when USA had no other big man-power demands on ground forces, while Japs were trying to hold down a dozen newly occupied nations.
>>65178700>Pearl Harbor went how it did because it was planned to?
>>65178817yeah, VS Midway that was, even with intel hack, at best "gee, I hope by dumb luck we spot their ships before they spot ours, and WTF knows WTF once this hair ball gets rolling".All the planning of "we gonna show up and what happens happens, might hava bust a cap in an ass".
>>65178314Given how he was extremely incompetent yet kept getting away with it, and also how the media decided to set him up as a big damn hero when he was the exact opposite, I can believe that. A lot of generals were found wanting in combat and quietly shuffled to rear positions, for much less than all the shit McArthur pulled.
>>65178204He completely fucked up the defense of the Philippines, was hyped up in the news who portrayed him as a hero and by the time it became obvious that he fucked up he was already too popular to do anything about it. The pacific war was won by the Navy anyway.
>>65178434Someone has been training AI on quora, and the people there are facebook-tier retarded.
>>65179093Too Big To Demote?Fact he'd been Joint Chief and Commandant of West Point would mean if he was suddenly "put on the shelf" that would be like admitting USA's entire Military had been led, and trained, for decades by a delusional ass-clown, and there would be no way to quickly un-do those instilled decades and generations of Stinking Thinking.Traditionally, it takes USA about two years to put competent men in command, and filter out the nepos and professional bureaucrats, who tend to highly skilled at one thing, hanging on to their positions.One big USN admiral ordered his cruisers to keep chugging in line when getting rekt by Jap long lance torpedoes, because even after Pearl Harbor the dogma was "The Japs can't have made torpedoes better than ours and ours can't do that". He kept his command, for the time being, by lying about how much damage he inflicted on enemy (and ordering his men to not dispute that).
>>65178876BIX NOOD!
>>65178448Literally read the next line in the post ffs. >>65178700Not really. Island hopping is way more dangerous for the USN than a straight up blue water throw down. Because if shit goes tits up you can't high tail it out of there. That's why more Sailors were killed in the water around Guadacanal than marines were killed ashore. Same with Suriago Strait. Sure, Taffy 3 clutched it out but those two could have been disasters and both were due to this island hopping strategy. It robs the Navy making the landing of both tactical and strategic mobility while the OPFOR retains both. Midway wasn't just some D100 dice roll either, it went the way it did for pretty coherent reasons, mostly Spruance making a string of about 50 accurate interpretations of the developing situation in a row, the freedom of action of the USN CAGs, and the IJN having split objectives... because they were island hopping. It's like the case in point example of why island hopping is the worse strategy.
>>65178487Moot invented reddit spacing before reddit came into existence, noob.
>>65181578classic copechina invented all of this before whites crossed the Danubebut hey, thanks for cutting reddit spacing out of your format this time
