Walther pp in .32 for $600https://palmettostatearmory.com/walther-pp-32-acp-3-90-8rds-4796029.html
pp lmao
Stupid, unpleasant gun in a mousefart caliber. Stop buying these pieces of shit. I've seen so many threads about PP/PPKs and never met a single person that actually owned one, I never see them in family photos either. At least get a 1903 if you're going to shoot a terrible 120 year old cartridge
>>65182687I own oneI don't post my shit onlineMine's in .380 and has hogue-type grips on it and is pleasant to shootfuck youthey're neatDA/SA > plastic striker fired bullshityou sound like you suck cocks.32 ACP was what it was designed for so would probably be even better to shootI bet you don't even shoot or own gunsi win
>>65182687maybe people that own the PPK are cool & dont associate with fags like you
>>65182687>I watched the Lucky Gunner video where he said it isn't very good, now I am an expertI have the Arkansas PP in .32 and it is a very well made and extremely pleasant to shoot. I strongly believe choosing the .380 in any model, but especially the PPK, is a huge mistake. Buying the PPK/s is also a huge mistake. Either get the PP or the PPK in .32, that's the only real choice.Otherwise this is one of the nicest handguns I have owned in terms of quality, it shits over all the sweatshop plastic guns made by Ruger and S&W and for the price I paid new it was a steal.
>>65182743I agree with getting the .32 chambering but why not the PPK/s?
>>65182906>6 / 1 / 1nta but I have an interarms PPK/S in .380. It's a beautiful gun but can be a bit snappy
>>65182687My father shoots a PPK. He enjoys it greatly, the only issue he has is that the safety ironically cuts his finger.
>>65182906it's a halfbreed abomination that only existed to satisfy import laws, now that we have a domestic PPK there is no reason to buy the /s
I like my 6 round .380 PPKBit of a pain to shoot continuously but I like it
>>65182687>Stupid, unpleasant gun in a mousefart caliber.The .32acp Walther is actually very pleasant to shoot.
You can get a VZ-70 in .32 AdolfKiller for less than $200 (shippingandfflextra)
>>65184028Wow, I can get a cheap knock off for the price of a cheap knock off? Got a link?
>600 for a compsct sized gun that shoots about as well as a modern micro 9
>>65182669>gun larger than a SW shield and (((Sig))) p365 and its the version that ISNT james bond's gun
>>65182687the 380s are the annoying snappy oneswhich virtually every tiny 380 made has been annoying and snappy until the last 10 years
>>65184028A quick gunbroker search shows most starting bids at $275 for beat up looking surp, and that's the opening bid, so it'll probably end up being over $300 plus shipping.
>>65184586>>65184614
>>65183385You aren't giving a reason not to get one. It's the best of both worlds: ppk slide is easier to conceal, especially in the pocket, and the frame is only like 1/8 inch longer and gives you an extra round.
>>65184645Yeah, a cheap knock off
>>65182687>>65184700sope and ceeth you dirty poorfag
>>65184720>I built my personality around a gun and theres one just like it but cheaper REEEEEEE
>>65184743>posts a photo of """him""" holding a gun in a gun store>posts no proof whatsoever of ownershiplol, nice one anon. you got us there.
>>65182669how is this a deal? or are american prices just generally more expensive? (like for H&K or Haenel kek)the normal Walthers go for like ~500-600€ in plenty EU shopsa lot cheaper if you go for used
>>65184743At least I own the fucking gun, and I'm not too much of a bitch baby like you to shoot .380. It isn't even snappy, it's tame. Now what are your valid criticisms of the ppk/s compared to the ppk?
PP in .32 is patrician's choice. .380 in a single stack straight blowback hurts my bitch hands, although you would think I like them.
>>65184743>fat hands>doesn't even own the gunGo back to that gun store and use one of their guns to kill yourself.
>>65184785Do you see the $900 crossed out next to the $549?
>>65184785OIC
>>65184782>>65184815>>65184846can couldn't come home same day so I used one of my othersAnd the ppk/s is an abomination made for gay import laws. .32 is the superior pp caliber, if i want to shoot 380 I'll use a 1903
>>65185257Retard, you aren't explaining why it's inferior. Just because they made the changes for importation regulations doesn't mean it didn't result in a better gun>.32 is a superior pp caliberExplain why. It doesn't matter that James bond used it, and it doesn't matter that it was originally chambered in it. .380 is objectively superior.>no timestampSo you don't even own one. Go figure.
>>65182669>not buying a .45 caliber gun and loading your own rounds for penetration and range control.I'd normally say please try again but maybe you should just give up. kek.
>>65185411>normally say please try again but maybe you should just give upPottery
>>65182687Well they look good which already makes it better than 90% of current plastic mess-slop.
Love me PPK, hate .32
>>65185364>explain Idk it just is>timestamp Uh oh, did I lie about my pp on the internet again???
>>65185426Glassblowing
>>65185427>Walther branded altoids box
>>65185411>>range controlWhat the fuck does that mean?
If you're a girl or a faggot.And we all know there are no girls on the internet.>>65185257>.32 is the superior>>65184836>.32 is patrician's choice
>>65186585This. Even with blowback action, .380 has far less recoil than a 9mm of the same size, so it's still not much recoil. If I shoot more than 100 rounds through my ppks I'll probably get a blister from the beavertail, but who fucking cares?
>>65187173>I'll probably get a blister from the beavertailHow?
>>65187173>Even with blowback action, .380 has far less recoil than a 9mm of the same sizeYou're way underestimating the difference the action makes. My 84bb is the size of a G19 but kicks worse. Hell, the recoil is worse than my G42.
>>65184815you chose both the wrong chambering and the wrong frame size. this is tragic. kindly reconsider.
>the .32 Auto PP was good enough for Adolf Hitler and the NSDAP>but it isn't good enough for me because... because it just isn't, okay?!Make this logic make sense
>>65187185I got an extra round by choosing the /s, and the better caliber. Your feelings are irrelevant. I don't need to larp as James bond.
>>65187195>I got an extra round by choosing the PPK/s>I didn't get an extra round by choosing the 32Wow, brilliant logic anon.>better caliberIn what way? Chambering statistically has no bearing in real world self defense, which is the only real use case for this handgun.>I don't need to larp as James bond.That's why I own and recommend the PP, ideally threaded but it's OK without, because all guns should be suppressed.
>>65185257I kinda regret not getting the threaded PP in 32 after seeing this. What silencer are you using anon? Any luck finding one that still lets you see the sights?
>>65187203>Chambering statistically has no bearing in real world self defenseThen just use .25.
How do people justify spending 50 cents a round on these? You can just get a 22 LR pistol if you don't like recoil
>>65187203.32 is a shitty bitch caliber, and the "statistics" that say caliber doesn't matter are very poorly compiled.
>>65187232I would love to, but there are no modern production autopistols chambered in .25 Auto. And there are no inexpensive .25 bullets for handloading, unlike .32.>>65187238Not my problem.>>65187278Surely you would not hesitate to upload a video of you shooting yourself with a .32 then, correct?
>>65187305>Surely you would not hesitate to upload a video of you shooting yourself with a .32 then, correct?What a stupid argument. Hitting your finger with a hammer isn't lethal, but I wouldn't do it. .380 has more energy than .32, that's a fact. That means it has a better chance of getting through a sternum. People die from organ damage or blood loss, so penetration is what actually kills people, and .32 is bad at that. It's also less available than .380, especially during shortages where manufacturers will stop making anything other than very common calibers. It has virtually no advantages.
I'd rather get a Bersa thunder
>>65187388>380 has more energy than .32, that's a fact. That means it has a better chance of getting through a sternum.You entirely forgot to take into consideration or even mention sectional density, which shows your ignorance.>People die from organ damage or blood loss, so penetration is what actually kills people, and .32 is bad at thatYou don't want the guy to die necessarily in self defense, you want him to stop fighting. All this, of course, doesn't even matter. We already have the statistical analysis PROVING that choice of chambering for self defense LITERALLY DOESN'T MATTER, and the only actual important thing is who gets shots on target before the other guy. Thus you should choose the chambering which is most reliable (i.e. not rimfire) and most shootable, which in our case is .32.You, like most, have obviously bought into the FBI's ballistic gelatin min-max autistic cope and it's truly sad.
>>65187436>We already have the statistical analysis PROVING that choice of chambering for self defense LITERALLY DOESN'T MATTERNo, we dont.
>>65187436>statistical analysisWhat we have is like, one graph, where one guy compiled data from some shootings. How was the data compiled? What was the range? Type of bullet? Clothing? Where did they get hit? How do we know he didn't cherry pick? Did he include things like point blank gang executions or suicides that would tremendously skew data? Without knowing any of this, that graph means nothing.
>>65187550Police shootings also tremendously skew results. Most cops mag dump nogs. When you shoot a groid 15 times, how do you know how many shots it actually took to kill him? The first shot might have been enough, but what if he shot him 14 more times afterwards? That won't be recorded as a 1 shot incapacitation/kill.
>>65187188Ah yes, let me pick the loser round>>65187550Oh you're talking about that chart? The one that has severe sampling bias because it has only about a dozen or so 32 shootings versus hundreds of 9 and 45 shootings? The one that includes fucking military shooting data in a self-defense analysis? The one that doesn't control for distance or any other variable? That chart?
>>65187436>statistical analysisSuch "analysis" has such immense issues with its sampling and sample size that any conclusions made with it are pure conjecture. Moreover, pointing to any study and saying it "proves" anything full stop is the hallmark of a halfwit pretending to be smart. You look at one chart that confirms your conclusions and never consider the evidence against it
>>65187731There are only two charts that I see floating around /k/, and both of them do a poor job at accounting for, or even noting any of the variables or how the data was collected. Anyone that looks at those charts and believes that .22 is as effective as .45 or .357 or whatever is a fucking retard. .32 is probably great for a tiny gun like a keltec p32, but if the gun isn't microscopic, I don't see why one would choose .32 over .380 unless maybe they're an infant or female.
The caliber with the worst autists is always .32, this thread proves it. Its a dead caliber for a reason, just get a 380/9/45/10mm and move on with your life. Its fine for an amusing range toy, but screeching about it for legit SD is just dumb these days.
>>65187767I probably would even trust it for CC, but to claim it's good, or even better than other cartridges is absolutely fucking retarded.
>>65187780With the P32, I wouldn't say its wrong to toss it in your pocket as a quick "run to the store" gun, but its massively outdated with things like the LCP Max exist where you can get the same size gun with 10 rounds of .380 at the cost of like $240. Theres no reason to go out of your way to get a .32 for SD, its not 1925.
lmao pp in 32 is a meme
>>65187916Yeah except max is massive compared to 32 and looks like poop
>>65187983It's a meme that I choose to engage with
>>65188034Didn't ask but that's cool or whatever.
>>65188019Its a shitty pocket pistol, it doesn't matter. I'm assuming you have a normal, daily driver CC pistol and only use the pocket pistols for quick trips or whatever
>>65188045Too bad, I told you anyway
>>65188058yeah, because you're mad. You'll get over it someday.
>>65188053It does matter, aethethics matter.
>>65188073I'm actually happy, happy about a Walther pp in .32, you on the other hand sound upset and bitter. Bitter that you are bound by the tyranny of .380. Upset at the joy others find in .32. You have allowed yourself to fall into darkness brother.
>>65188076Those come in 380 also
>>65188076>stock image.32 troons don't even own guns. The only gun owners itt are gigachad ppk/s .380 enjoyers.
Beretta 81 in .32 is so sweet
>>65188699Based silica packet enjoyer
>>65189641They're delicious.
Mogged hard by the LCP Max
>>65189729Wow, a nearly 100 year old design is outclassed by something modern, I'm shocked, trulyInb4 1911 is still good, so is the pp
>>651897921911 was never good
>>65185364You're being retarded while other anon is correct. .32 > .380Just like semi auto > full autoExact same shit.
>>65185741Range of (PENETRATION) control.It means under powered or lighter weight hollow points... OR hard cast 460 rowland. One will be stopped by drywall n the other will go halfway through a bear.
>>65187195the sectional density of avg 380 is less(0.108) than the sectional density of common 100g 32 acp slugs (0.147).
>>6518723822 isn't reliable. Need centerfire. Need compactness. Need reliability. That's all. One of pauls favs was .25 acp Beretta. I prefer the p32 myself.
>>65189873>100 grain .32 bulletsThe average .32 slug is 65-70 grains. You're either retarded for not knowing, or being dishonest. If you're using 100 grains to make the .32 look better, I'll use my norma .380+p ammo, which is 300 ft/lbs. Sectional density is only one part of the equation. If the goal is penetrstion, then that is what you should be concerned with, not the factors that determine penetration. .380 has better penetration than .32, and it isn't up for debate.
>>65189923yeah but the p32 weighs 10 ounces and the ruger lcp weighs 14 so i can carry more p32
>>65189923You didn't know that sectional density is the ONLY important factor? 100gr .32 is better than 115gr 9mm! Nevermind that it has less energy than a strong fart. Why aren't we all using. 32?
>>65189952my farts usually dont blow peoples heads up but you might be of a different constitution
>>65189972Well, neither do .32s. Nobody is arguing that .32 would suck to get shot by, but it's disingenuous to take one factor to claim that .32 is better than larger calibers. Energy is generally a good metric, so is penetration, and virtually all common SD calibers beat .32. It's fine to like .32 for whatever reason, but it is definitely a weaker caliber than .380. Is the extra capacity and lower recoil worth it? Maybe, but you're better off making that argument than claiming it's stronger.
>>65189972Fart seller please
.32 started ww1, it is the goat
>>65185257What a stupid thing to say >the first glock was the 17 in 9mm, so any different variant or caliber is an abomination
