Is it true that a .25 Beretta is not a good choice for an 00 agent?Was it correct to upgrade James Bond's gun to a 7.63 mm Walther PPK?
>>65186896Bond was rarely shooting at soldiers in kit and he was an excellent marksman, almost always engaging at close range.Stopping power was a non-issue for him concealment, and suppression were everything.Accuracy and reliability would probably be factors too but those are pretty subjective.In-universe, Bond is just wrong. Q knows much more about guns and gives him a better gun.IRL Fleming didn't know that much about guns and got a fan-letter from a gun autist telling him what he was doing wrong.>James Bond used a Beretta in the first five novels of the series by Ian Fleming. Bond's pistol is described as "a very flat .25 Beretta (the model number is never specified by Fleming) automatic with a skeleton grip," (i.e. side grip panels removed – frame only), and a threaded barrel to support a suppressor.[3] >At the end of the fifth novel, From Russia, with Love, Bond is unable to draw the Beretta at a critical moment when its suppressor catches on the waistband of his trousers, and is very nearly killed as a result. This incident leads to an order from his superior officer, M, to start carrying a new duty weapon in the opening chapters of the sixth novel, Dr. No. Major Boothroyd, the MI6 armorer and "the greatest small-arms expert in the world" in M's opinion, insists that Bond trade it for a weapon with more stopping power. >In reality, Ian Fleming received a fan letter dated May 23rd 1956 from Geoffrey Boothroyd, a Bond enthusiast and gun expert, criticizing the choice of firearm for Bond. >Boothroyd called the Beretta "a lady's gun" and suggested several alternatives, one of which was the Walther. >Fleming thanked Boothroyd by naming the MI6 armorer in Dr. No after him. >In the film, the character of Boothroyd references his real-life counterpart's comments when he describes the Beretta: "Nice and light, in a lady's handbag. No stopping power."
>>65186906>Bond is unable to draw the Beretta at a critical moment when its suppressor catches on the waistband of his trousers, and is very nearly killed as a resultHow does replacing the Beretta with a Walther fix that problem?
>>65186921It's a more of a, 'you almost died so we're looking at everything and highlighted the following issues', his gun being inadequate for his job being one of them.He rarely uses his own gun in the books anyway, and half the time when he does draw it he gets disarmed before he can even fire it. Man with the Golden Gun is one of the few times (possibly only i cant remember) where he has it start to finish and actually uses it to kill the villain at the end.
Meanwhile, with Harry Palmer.
>>65187108He also tries to sell Bond on a .38 Airweight.Then Dr. No captures him anyway and he fights the entire time with a stolen M1 Carbine.
Read the catalog, fag>>65184858
>>65187147It's obviously the same guy anon.Search the archives for variations on Beretta and bond and the like and you'll see he's been on his shit for a while for whatever reason.Of all the things to spam though at least it's kind of interesting. Beats the guy who rambles about buckhorn sights and minutiae about production numbers of one specific lever gun at least
>>65187142>>65187108I listened to the whole audio book series, Bond rarely just shoots the bad guy>Dr No - buried alive in bird shit>Red Grant - shot with his own book gun >Scaramanga- shot by bond with his Walther>Casino Royale guy - Killed by SMERSH >Hugo Drax - Killed by their sub being wiped out by their nuke going off near them>Diamonds are forever - Killed by train going off a bridge and the other by a BOFORs gun shooting his helicopter >Thunderball - Domino kills the main guy>Live and Let Die - sharks >You only live twice - strangles Blofeld>Goldfinger - Sucks though plane window
i hate engagement threads. why cant you just say 'hay lets talk about james bond!'? why do you have to write out this disingenuous OP designed to maximize the chance of replies?you arent getting karma or clicks or subs so why do all the mind tricks?
>>65187258he can't because Weapons Board not james bond board
>>65187287We need a /spy/ board
>>65187247Dr. No was boiled alive in the reactor water
>>65187301In the film, in the book he's buried alive by Bond moving a ship loading crane over him and covering him in tons of bird guano. The books and the film vary greatly from each other, especially Moonraker.
>>65187247Yeah, he mostly shoots underlings.Man. I'm only on Thunderball (shot in the neck with a speargun during an SCUBA gear shiv fight between a nuclear sub crew and a gang of super-mobsters). Why are we cursed with (((modern reinterpretations))) and not kino postwar 50s period pieces?>Killed by train going off a bridgeI'm pretty sure this is because he shoots the Las Vegas mafia train's driver after switching the tracks.>GoldfingerOddjob goes out the plane window. He chokes Goldfinger out. Goldfinger is the most retarded one. They got like a thousand people to pretend to be dead so that they could catch a guy trying to rob Ft Knox.
>>65186896It was fine, bond only actually needs a gun for executions. This just never comes up because bond is the guy that gets sent when their actual best agent, the never seen onscreen 008, is too busy; and as a result situations that should have ended with two shots to the back of the head and a clean getaway turn into drawn-out fistfights and killing people with piranhas.
Are Berettas really girl guns?
>>65187594Bill spends a lot of time in the hospital, I guess he had.... all the time in the world.
>>65187716No but anything less than 9mm is a girl caliber
>>65187794I carry .22 short in a beretta minx. It is absolutely a girl caliber, but I fear no mouse, and I aim for the only part of the demon you can see in the dark, its eye.
>>65187794>7.62x51mm>girl caliber
I could see .25 being useful even unsuppressed as likely you'll be always subsonic and that does matter for shots. Way easier to shoot someone with a subsonic in an urban area even unsuppressed when most people are inside concrete and brick buildings.
>>65188135>he only has a 7.62x51mm
>>65187294Make a general
>>65187182I SHOOT 10MM!
Why there are 2 topics talking the same movie shit? What's burning in UK?
>>65187395>They got like a thousand people to pretend to be dead so that they could catch a guy trying to rob Ft Knox.The priority was to seize the nuke the Chinese had smuggled into the country. Stopping the robbery was secondary. They had to go along with it until the nuke was brought into the field.
>>65187182Guy who made the other thread here. No I didnt make the >>65186896 thread.
>>65188885I SHOOT 10MM!
>>65186896Was Danial Craig a better Bond than Sean Connery? Some say yes. Did he have better writters? Some say no.
>>65188923Pretty sure Craig has said that the one movie was like hell on earth for him because they filmed it during the writer's strike, and the director left it up to him to rewrite scenes to better fit the character.That's got to fucking suck whole ass.He also got seriously injured multiple times during his stint as bond, I know he tore both of his calf muscles at the same time filming one of the stunts.
>>65188923casino royale is probably the most book accurate film and my personal favorite bond movie. the rest of the craig series was marred by changing directors bad writing and sam mendez.
>>65189056You Only Live Twice will always take the Oscar for best sets! No CGI flimflam in that film. Ok, so the opening rocket scene was cheesy. But the mastermind volcano lair was truely over the top. And who doesn't want a pearly diving/spy waifu? Kissy Suzuki indeed.
>>65189081i've got the book. it's a lot less upbeat than the movie.
>>65188800New 007 game came out a few days ago, it's gotten a lot of traction due to streamers
>>65189223>it's gotten a lot of traction due to streamersYou mean, the marketing department paid streamers well to promote it.
>>65188923>Did he have better writters?Skyfall was abysmal, so was Spectre (let me just look for DNA traces on a ring after weeks of being in your pocket and handled without gloves and oh look, my computer generated an entire exposition montage from a single unknown person's DNA).
>>65189203The book is much more cold and merciless while the movie is a quite fancy Hollywood fest. To each his own.
>>65189364Craig's 007 was just a living show of the downfall of Hollywood. The first one we have Eva Greene then some Ukrainian super model. Then there's this old hag M who pretended not to be the leading female actress but actually she was(stopped watching from here). Then some rather plain looking actress(es?) who could not even get a waitress #9 role in old 007 movies, became the leading actress I guess? I did remember that some MGM guys talked about the next 007 will be a black female right?
>>65189375There were many, many things wrong with the movies and you're right that they got worse over time but the female leads are not at all the reason.Though I agree that M shouldn't be a main character though you don't seem to have had a problem with it once it was a male M again.Your real problem seems not to be the atrocious writing and plot holes but the choice to include women in general and ones you don't admire specifically.Are you sure you wouldn't be happier on /tv/ complaining about movies with female leads?
>>65187124Luv me some Ipcress Files
>>65187182>eroica mentionedbased
>>65189425Now listen to me... listen to me...
>>65188923He's certainly the one I actually bought as being the man named James Bond the most, but his films were also the most interested in that side of things.He probably had to do the most carrying of the franchise on his back though. His period of films is super inconsistent and I think his performance is the main reason people tend to remember the good ones so fondly and don't mind overlooking the rougher ones.>>65189050Yeah QoS was a victim of the '08 writer's strike. I think it and Transformers 2 were the biggest releases that tripped over their own dick as a result of it, not that I think the latter would've exactly been high art with a writers' room anyway.
>>65189425>Beefaroni
>>65189425I assume the new version is shit
This thread got me thinking. Let’s say you were the armorer for the next James Bond film, and the filmmakers wanted you to replace his outdated PPK with something modern. What would be the ideal gun for James Bond if he had access to today’s guns? The Brosnan films answered this for the late 90s by giving him a (at the time) brand new Walther P99, but this didn’t really go anywhere because Craig switched back to the PPK. Assuming I was in charge, I’d probably go with the new 15 round Glock 43x.
>>65189610ASP pistol. Looks cool, fits the bill.
>>65186896>Be nameless mook>Fucking supervillain boss asking me to guard some macguffin that'll end the world>Hey at least I am being paid for this shit>Feel minor impact on back of head, we don't get issued helmets so a thrown rock could probably take me out>Pick small metal object that flattened against my skull>Pfftt, .25 ACP? That's like getting hit by a thrown plastic BB>Hear british sobbing in the shadowsOh wait, that never happened because .25 ACP absolutely will kill you dead.
>>65189056What the fuck is wrong with Sam Mendez? He directed American Beauty.
>>65189610It's a decent enough choice for real world reasons, but I think you want something a little more visually interesting. The PPK being iconic at this point aside, it's also a really aesthetically pleasing gun and these days also acts as a bit of a deliberate aesthetic throwback to stand out from contemporaries and successors. There's a reason that the Daniel Craig films and now IOI game went back to the PPK.I honestly don't know how you solve the problem with a new gun but you need something that reads as a lethal tool of a dangerous man more than the practical choice of a tactical operator. It's a niche at odds with most firearm trends of the past few decades.But of course I'm thinking about filling the gap left by the PPK more than just a modern counterpart for the original brief.
>>65188923>Sean Conneryhttps://litter.catbox.moe/kuibrx.webm
>>65186896This scene always confused me. They just ordered him to start using a new gun right before sending him on a mission? Without giving himself the chance to test it and get used to it? I'd imagine since it's a more powerful gun, you'd really want to get used to aiming and firing it before taking it with him on a highly dangerous mission to Kingston.
>>65189663It's not like they handed him a deagle brand deagle and told him he can only hipfire it or something. A little range time would probably be polite but he probably shouldn't be a 00 agent if he's not well versed in other small arms and able to handle a little more recoil than a pocket pistol.As stated above the scene in the novel exists to both give an in-universe explanation for swapping the gun to something a little more fitting for the character and give a tip of the hat to the guy who wrote in about it, but the novel is also the sixth in the series. In the film it just ends up an odd little orphaned scene.
>>65189643That’s an excellent point. Maybe a CZ Shadow 2 carry then? It’s about the same size as the P99, so Bond could realistically carry it without issues, and it being derived from a competition gun gives it a unique look. Aftermarket wood grip panels are available too, which would make it pop even more. Bond using a gun from an ex-Warsaw Pact nation would also fit the “changing world” themes found in the Brosnan and Craig films
>>65189680Better pic. Don’t know why the one I sent is so low res
>>65189663>>65189669That's why I like the version of the scene in The IPCRESS file better where the armorer makes Palmer sign for it first and makes sure he knows how to use it:>Dalby: "Give him your gun. Issue him with a Colt .32.">Armorer: "Do you know how to use this?">Palmer: "Colt .32? Yes. I'd sooner have my automatic.">Dalby: "Use the Colt.">Palmer: "I'll use the Colt."
Wouldn't a subsonic surpessed .22lr be better for his role?
>>65187755008 in lore is decisively more efficient than Bond, and is a simile for what the actual consumate wet work professional agent would be. Instead of plowing through lackeys in a botched infiltration he'd get HUMINT by throwing money at off duty lackies - ultimately just sniping Goldfingers ass from several hundred yards away before calling an airstrike or the SAS (to which he clearly had priority tasking) to mop up
>>65189700If he were solely an assassin, yes. Bond’s assignments tend to be a lot more broad than that, though.
>>65186896PPK is more steady to use after you had a few martinis.
>>65189680I like the choice and the reasoning. Nice classic profile without the illumination fitted too. Only concern would be the spur, slide serration and wood grips together maybe reading a little too 1911. But at this point I'm thinking purely from the perspective of a screen armourer trying to make sure that a gun reads as exotic to an uninformed audience.Solid choice.>>65189700Bond's sidearm is more an insurance policy than a means to quickly eliminate a single priority target up relatively close. He's an excellent shot but putting a little more energy and lead in a man than that is still probably preferable. If he's planning an assassination he probably either has some bullshit in his watch or the chance to get kitted for it.
>>65187594So you're saying that the competent secret agent that just kills the target and goes home gets dispatched to defeat the competent villain that just kills the secret agent and goes on with his nefarious plan, while the incompetent secret agent that spends more time seducing the local women than trying to accomplish the mission gets sent to stop the incompetent villain that puts more effort into elaborate, easily foiled schemes to kill the secret agent than his actual evil plan?
>>65189610>What would be the ideal gun for James Bond if he had access to today’s guns?OЦ-38 BopчyнPros:Small, easily concealable, very silent, shortCons:No ammo pickups from defeated goons
>>65189763You gotta pair your agents to your villains. It's just not cricket to put your best man on a theatrical lunatic, that massive base built into a volcano/mountain/ocean/cave/etc would go to waste if he just got got buying groceries or something.His Majesty's Secret Service insists upon playing fair.
>>65189765From a purely mechanical standpoint, I agree that it would be a good choice for a spy. That’s what the Russians designed it for, after all. However, I can’t see bond carrying a gun from a nation hostile to Great Britain unless it’s something he picks up in the field
>>65189642Spectre was garbage
>>65189610No signature weapon. New local pistol issued by Q each movie, with a little glam closeup and exposition about why it's neat. Bond always comments about already having used one, and if he has a complaint then Q has fixed it somehow.
>>65189763008 is out doing real cold war wet work shit for the most part - assassinations, stalking inna random jungle with an assault rifle killing Soviet advisors in some turd world African shithole, and basically just dabbing on Soviets and commies et al.In 007's case a lot of the time it's "hey we got some wacky intel on this eccentric jetsetting rich dude having some cockamamie plan that undermines her majesty interests - go check it out."Bond is clearly better for Intel gathering/sleuthing and non-conventional out the box shit.008 kills motherfuckers and goes on extreme high risk missions casually behind the iron curtain, including often into active war zones (it was heavily implied in one of the books he was in Vietnam at the time unofficially and it was obv during the war)
>>65189957Throw in a scene where Q gently turns down bond suggesting a PPK or Beretta pocket pistol and its solid. >Why Bond its not the cold war anymore we have better options than that
>>65189982>her majesty interestsIt was a very odd feeling realising that the new game is the first entry in the entire franchise not under ol' Liz. Everything from the first book through No Time To Die was under her reign.
>>65189770The reason is also 008, the best man for the job, is usually behind the Iron Curtain, or recovering from conducting major wet work direct action behind the iron curtain or in an active war zone (Nam, Biafra/Congo, pick your poison).Bonds lucky he even got SAS support the few times he did like in Dr No, as 008 had clear priority tasking for SAS/SBS
>>65189763A 008 movie where some dipshit richfag actually whacks 007 would be fun but it would be more of a 30 minute long short movie.
>>65189957Switching back to the PPK (well really sticking with it after Casino Royale) was the dumbest shit ever esp. when Casino Royale started with Craig having a P99.>>65189998Craig's Bond is closest thematically to what 008 would be like (but still not there)- more professional and coldly brutal, more cool confidence than gentlemanly playboy.Of course they fucked up Craig's last 2 movies desu and self sacrifice is decidedly un-bondly of Bond
>>65190005008 would probably steal the rich dudes plane, load it with explosives and dead goon bodies and casually crash it into the rich dudes mansion while he's having some gala event there. Imagine the Daniel Craig coy grin as 008 dangles from a parachute watching the carnage below.The one solid thing we know about 008 is he was utterly efficient overkillIn the backpages of the newspaper "disgruntled RichCorp employee crashes plane into CEO's mansion"
>>65190016Yeah, Craig's iteration comes off more as a suave killer and feels a lot more grounded as a result. He feels like someone you could actually picture doing questionably legal wetwork in a foreign country. Always impressed with the sense of depth to the man beyond that he brought though. He's cold but he's not a robot, which makes the coldness more unsettling when it does surface.Both Dalton and specifically Goldeneye's version of Brosnan have a little of that edge too.I was always a little sad they never tried recapturing the characterisation and tone from Goldeneye, I think it's the best job they did of convincing me this playboy can also shoot a man in cold blood. Brosnan's fun to watch in the later films but he's basically a cartoon in a self-parody.
>>65186896KGB wetwork/assassin types used .25 cal for the entire Cold War.
>>65190040>Brosnan's fun to watch in the later films but he's basically a cartoon in a self-parody.They made the same mistake they always do as a Bond actor goes on of getting more and more over the top to the point where Bond seems more like a system for moving Q-branch's deus ex machina machines to the correct place
>>65190057Wetwork is usually just bumrushing a guy while hes taking a shit you dont get into firefights. Bond doesnt really do that.
>>65190079Despite starting with one of the best films in the franchise, the later Brosnan films give off the feeling they're kind of insecure about existing alongside Mission Impossible. Like if instead of compete they just ceded the territory and went harder on the tongue in cheek super-spy stuff.
>>65190091literally exactly what happens in goldeneye
Have seen the movies but never read the books. Isn't book bond suppose to be a scared drunkard fuckup that only has a job because the other agents get hurt/killed?
>>65190097Bond has always been reactionary to other film franchises. It’s really apparent in the first two Craig films (especially QoS) that they’re trying to compete with the Bourne series >>65190057What about the Makarov PB? It’s chambered in 9x18, not .25
>>65190101Goldeneye was 007 being given work for 008 as a prank.
>>65190126In book bonds the other 00's are 008 - a Profesional assassin/commando/direct action overkill kind of guy, and 0011 - who's usually running disguised deep cover ops or going dark undercover for extended periods of time collecting intel ie he's a fucking ghost.0011 is the kind of spy who knows over 10 languages and has entire alternate personas and IMO is probably a real stud. His ops take lots of TIME, meaning he likely has multiple families with multiple women all over the world, eventually abandoned for queen and country when the mission is complete.007 is a bumbling jack of all trades, master of none, who gets oddball assignments who more often than not is incredibly fucking lucky.All the other 00's were usually later movie adds (like 006) and were generally expendable or traitors to.advance a plot point.
>>65190154Literally every time Bond has to go up against the Soviets its because 008 is either busy blowing stuff up or is recovering from getting hurt blowing stuff up. And that stuff is usually commie stuff in the first place.Bond is basically option C when dealing with Soviet shit
>The virgin 007>The Chad 008
>>65189642>What the fuck is wrong with Sam Mendez?Bond has a formula that must be followed and there's certain to be a committee ghost-writing your output.Aside from anything else, there's a metric fuck-tonne of product placement to guarantee and you're burdened with continuity from the previous movies (in your mini arc) and with set-ups for the next one.I suspect there's very little creative freedom in directing a Bond film and loads of studio interference.
>>65189663>They just ordered him to start using a new gun right before sending him on a mission?Why couldn't he take it down to the range in the basement to break it in?We don't see him using the toilet before leaving either but he probably did.
>>65189734>008 in lore is decisively more efficient than Bond, and is a simile for what the actual consumate wet work professional agent wouldBond generally starts a mission with very little idea what's going on, he stirs shit up because he wants to spook his quarry into exposing themselves when they take a shot at him.
>>65189770>His Majesty's Secret Service insists upon playing fair.Wouldn't be cricket otherwise.
>>65190005>A 008 movie where some dipshit richfag actually whacks 007 would be funThere's at least one Bond movie that starts with another 00's death.003 dies in Siberia from non-specific causes.
>>65190362Isn't one of them killed at the start of Octopussy?
>>65190372Yes, 009
>>65190180>007 is a bumbling jack of all trades, master of noneHe's canonically an expert ornithologist which is a kind of in-joke by Fleming because there was an IRL James Bond who wrote a book on bird watching.
>>65190362The living daylights opens with 002 and 004 getting killed in Gibraltar
>>65190362>>65190372>>65190389There's also been OO's who have been traitors - Sean Bean's 006, and 004.It's unknown if Javier Bardem's Silva in Skyfall was technically a 00 but he was former a MI6 agent
>>65190433>It's unknown if Javier Bardem's Silva in Skyfall was technically a 00 but he was former a MI6 agentHe must have been, he was very familiar with M, had (or believed he had) a personal relationship with her and considered himself a peer to Bond.Admittedly, that could be narcissism and it's only implied but it's clear that he felt was on Bond's level and a predecessor of Bond.
>>65189957I like this idea a lot. Perhaps Q would source whatever pistol and ammo load the local police force are using to make Bond’s shots blend in
>>65190487M never confirmed nor denied he was a 00 It was known he excelled in cyber security (hacked the chinese, M gave him up to the PLA) but clearly wasn't JUST a hacker, his knowledge and expertise is 00 worthy
>>65190487I'd also like to point out Silva ultimately succeeded in killing M and bringing MI6 to its knees, where Bond utterly failed to stop him, esp. considering Silva was prepared to die (and did)
>>65189610The switch back to the PPK from the P99 was supposed to be temporary - ie a punishment for the literal 3+ nation international incident Bond caused in the beginning of Casino Royale (and put him on suspension)
>>65189610all the reasonable practical modern choices have no main character dashing spy energy, need something like an 80X (aside from being 380)
>>6519066510mm longboi glock
>>65190665I think the old stainless steel Jericho 941 comes really close, but the old gen is nl longer in production and the new IWI “enhanced” models are hideous
>>65190180>master of none>is incredibly fucking lucky.Ironically, the skill he seems to be a master of is gambling, both playing straight and all kinds of cheating.
>>65190695Picrel is the “enhanced” model in FDE. Look how they massacred my goy
>>65190533Yes. Made or used locally, local ammo, subtle Q refinements (the hammer has a reputation for catching so we laser polished it, etc) that would skate by investigation. It doesn't have to be TOO grounded (we didn't want your bullets being identified so they explode, etc).
>>65190533>>65190738>"Now pay attention 007, a perfectly ordinary [firearm] as issued to the constabulary in [location]. But, with one key difference, you simply rotate this latch, here, which disengages this cam and makes you read this in Desmond Llewelyn's voice."
>>65190709>you're gonna carry that weight
>>65186896Kek. Not this again...
>>65186896>not knowing about ballistics and how to load your own rounds.for fuck sakes...
>>65190615He had a ppk in the second chase scene in quantum of solace, which is immediately after casino royal
I'd suggest the P365 Luxe as a modern Bond pistol.
>>65191055How’s he going to suppress it?
>>65191064It's a movie, so they just stick a mock suppressor on.
>>65191086how? by slotting it into the comp ports?
>>65189610Uberti 1851 navy. London model of course.
>>65191064surely Q branch could gin up some kind of exotic internally-threaded solution or something
>>65190762>Now pay attention 007
The two quintessential traits of a Bond gun are that it is>tiny>fits a suppressorA handgun must fit these requirements.>Sights?Bond point-shoots in almost every pull of the trigger>recoil?Bond might get into a shoot out but he never mag-dumps on a target>stopping power?Bond either hits and kills or he misses due to external circumstances
>>65191225Behold, a bond gun!
>>65189610Beretta Nano. Go full circle on the micro Beretta. Find out a way to get a sleek suppressor on it and we're golden for James Bond in [CURRENT YEAR].
>>65191241tbf he does have to shoot a *lot* of mooks
>>65190433>and 004.004 isn't a traitor, you're thinking of the assassin who kills him
>>65190709genuinely anudda shoah
>>65191104Probably just having a rod on the end of the suppressor that plugs into the barrel.That's how they usually do it when they don't have a threaded barrel.
>>65190928He was supposed to have his p99 back for quantum of solace
>>65191284The game rogue agent made 004 into a traitor
>>65190695He said Bond, not SPECTRE.
>>65186906you sound like an AI, and also you know literally nothing of james bond because he literally shoots at soldiers and people kitted better than soldiers all the time??? >>65191471>>65190615this is some weird ass head cannon shit youve come up with because at no point was craig ever going to get the p99>>65189610something like a FK BRNO or maybe a Maxim 9, practicality and features should trump all >>65186896I think going to 32acp is better because its a more common round, stopping power is bull tho. In terms of accuracy for sure the walther is a much better built gun, stiffer/thicker barrel, and 30% longer than the beretta. That with 32 having better ballistics, its definitely a more accurate pistol by a long shot.
>>65191829>you sound like an AI, and also you know literally nothing of james bond because he literally shoots at soldiers and people kitted better than soldiers all the time???He doesn't use his pistol for that, he commandeers local heavy weapons or something.
>>65191829Both the FK BRNO and the Maxim 9 would be perfect for a bond movie, but I’m not sure they’d be a good fit to replace Bond’s gun because neither of them are really concealable. They strike me more as villain guns (especially the BRNO, it’d be perfect for a Scaramanga. -like assassin character)
>>65191829>>65192224Agreed that the FK BRNO needs to be worked in to the Bond storyline, perhaps as a villain small arm(maybe ? the polymer version; or perhaps Field Pistol for a designated assassin)
>>65190709https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vcrb6365GsQ
>>65191829"We took your 9mm 15+1 modern sidearm because you were suspended due to causing a diplomatic incident, were giving you a 7 shot .380 because we're sending you into a low risk mission at a casino anyway where a smaller gun makes more sense (not like p99 is big anyway).>completes mission>doesn't get his gun back>stuck with 1930's sidearm for nostalgia reasonsWhy don't we just give him a baby hi power instead
>>65191829Again Craig started Casino Royale with a P99
>>65192309according to IMFDB, craig never used the PPK in casino royale. He only gets it in Quantum of Solace, after the casino mission
>>65191243Solid choice
>>65191243>>65192595>beretta nanowhatever happened to these