full video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JT2chfcWsI
>>65188217You are so gay you cannot even leave a couple bullet points of the video.
>>65188217Absolutely, except for Russia.
>what if one space marine vs the battle of little bighorn! wow poggers! i heck8ng love history!
>>65188217Depends, can 120 darts and ATGMs peirce AT AT armor? If yes then I'd say probably. If they're proof against existing AT then no those guys are fucked. Probably take some heavy losses either way
>>65188217>Can Modern Militaries Succeed at The Battle of Hoth?If you believe the numbers people spit out in those Star Wars vs Star Trek debate, every blaster shot from a rifle can blow up an Abrams Tank and every warship is slinging firepower in the megatons nukes per blaster shot even though the on screen effect is really subdued and in line with WW2 weapons but they are energy. The consequences of showing asteroids get vaporized(low budget explosions) in that one scene in ESB is hilarious.To answer your question though, probably. I always found the Snowspeeders tying the legs thing to be a bit weird when they have a bunch of fighters with anti-capital ship torpedoes near by... but anyway, I imagine the US military would just JDAM the fuck out of them. Don't know how Tie Fighters would fair against Mach 4 missiles but SW fighters rarely move that fast in atmosphere, I assume they use anti-grav to escape planets, not pure speed. I doubt the plastiod armor would actually hold up to bullets given its showing in RotJ. Nothing to be done if Star Destroyers are up there though, even if you power scale their main gun to only be like really big battleship style canons, they are in space and you are not.
>>65189378the AT-ATs are there in the first place because the base is protected by a shield generator that the star destroyers can't punch through. Their mission was to blow it up before the rebels evacuate so that the star destroyers can obliterate the base from orbit
>>65189404How AT-AT can penetrate these shields?
>>65189423same way the droids can in Episode 1. The shields only stop energy weapons or fast moving projectiles or something like that, a slow moving vehicle close to the ground can walk through them and blow the generator up from inside their coverage
>>65189378The lore explanation for dogfighting and capital ships fighting like ships of the line in the far future is that EW and ECMs have outstripped sensor platforms, so it depends on how much face value we want to give TIE the ability to fuck over radar.>>65189423Shield is oriented to stop planetary bombardment, not stop a hostile force from walking in.
>>65188228Why would he need to? Having seen the movie and knowing a little about modern military is all that's needed to contribute, some guys take on the matter is entirely optional viewing. And if you have the time to engage with a speculative star wars thread on an anime website, you're time is truly not so fucking valuable that you cant just watch the video yourself.
>>65189426Uhh, fly destroyers through shields?
>>65189457there was a giant ion cannon defending the base too. Do you want to have your star destroyer's antigravity emitters fried by EMP while hovering over a planet?
>>65189434NTA but anons who just post vid links and nothing else are lazy pieces of shit.
>>65189365>However, an enemy tank and multiple enemy machineguns continued to rake the company perimeter with devastating fire. Realizing the tank posed a serious threat to the entire perimeter, Sergeant Gomez voluntarily crawled thirty yards across an open rice field vulnerable to enemy observation and fire, boarded the tank, pried open one of the hatches on the turret and dropped an activated grenade into the hull, killing the crew. Wounded in the left side while returning to his position, Sergeant Gomez refused evacuation. Observing that the tripod of a .30 caliber machinegun was rendered inoperable by enemy fire, he cradled the weapon in his arms, returned to the forward defensive positions, and swept the assaulting force with withering fire. Although his weapon overheated and burned his hands and his painful wound still bled, Sergeant Gomez maintained his stand and, upon orders to withdraw in the face of overwhelming enemy superiority, remained to provide protective fire. Sergeant Gomez continued to pour accurate fire into the enemy ranks, exacting a heavy toll in casualties and retarding their advance. Sergeant Gomez would not consent to leave his post for medical attention until the company established new defensive positions
>>65189378>If you believe the numbers people spit out in those Star Wars vs Star Trek debateIt's not 2010 anymore and this isn't spacebattles.
>>65189426Did you not watch the movie? The shield isn't a dome, it's a single plane. The AT-ATs dropped outside the shield and walked under it.
>>65189431>The lore explanation for dogfighting and capital ships fighting like ships of the line in the far future is that EW and ECMs have outstripped sensor platforms, so it depends on how much face value we want to give TIE the ability to fuck over radar.I remember this for Gundam, but I don't think Star Wars ever gave such a clear rationalization for it. If you go by the old X-Wing/TIE Fighter flight sims, guided missile spam and beyond-visual-range combat isn't used so much because the missiles aren't much faster than the ships, are easy to shoot down with "lasers" (SW energy bullet guns) or evade unless launched from close range or head-to-head with the target, and have pretty limited maneuvering capability (presumably a fuel limit). I'm not sure if that portrayal of missiles was consistent, though. I don't remember ships having trouble spotting each other at long range - effective weapon range was just very limited due to the technologies involved. Actual rockets and shells could presumably go longer distances by coasting, but might be easy to intercept or ineffective against armor (SW torpedoes are supposed to be nuclear shaped charges, so I'm not sure chemical explosives or kinetic weapons can measure up).
>>65190383Star wars fighters fly at significantly below mach 1, and manage to miss each other with weapons at under 500 feet. Their main weapons, when turned on the ground, rarely have the power of basic handgrenades. Fighters slamming into Battleships at like 500 miles an hour are able to locally compromise hull armor in less heavily armored sections.Star wars is a WW2 setting, except when it's a WW1 setting, or a ACW setting.
>>65191701And Ukraine is a World War One setting, except when it's a Terminator setting.
>>65191735It should surprise no one that the rest of the world has not caught up to where America was in the Cold war. One look at foreign Carrier development could tell you that.
>>65191701>okay here my scifi seething>space battles are ww2 in spacewhy is this so common, star trek/wars, 40k, ...even in a necron novel when they assault another dinasty using arks to carry troops on the ground iit feels like a DDay with some necron ships getting exploded and the one general on the ground providing command to them wondering if he is going to be exploded or not and then there are their planes doing strafing runs on whats basicaly costal battery(but for space)
>>65192073Because a real space battle would be boring. Dont need battleships or fighters. Just mass drivers to hurl asteroids at the home planet of your enemy at 20% the speed of light. You litteraly can't stop it.
>>65192351It’s absolutely not super realistic but the Expanse (books not slopshit show) does a decent job of making less shitty space combat that is in the realm of suspension of disbelief while still being entertaining and not a “autism stare at radar for 6 months” simulator
>>65191701>Star wars fighters fly at significantly below mach 1Speed isn't presented consistenly. On screen they look pretty slow, but they are implied to cross huge distances in minutes (launch from Yavin IV, fly around a gas giant, then fly around the equator of the Death Star in a very short time, launch torpedoes into the exhaust port and get a huge distance away before the DS explodes, etc.). If you try to do the math on it, I think you can only come to the conclusion the Star Wars planets are really small and gravity doesn't work right.>>65191701>Their main weapons, when turned on the ground, rarely have the power of basic handgrenades.I don't recall them ever actually using space ships for CAS in the original movies, which was weird by itself given that the things are basically fighter jets that can hover. The closest thing was that hidden blaster the Millenium Falcon used while landed (even though their main ventral turret should have been able to target the same enemies).
>>65189378SW ships at least on the old EU did use anti grav to escape and enter planetary gravity wells. There's actually a really neat part in one of the old books where a character is damn near shitting herself because due to damage her ship has sustained, she has no anti grav or shields, and has to perform an unpowered landing, IE how you come down from orbit like we do in real life.
>>65192364basically Das Boot but in space. interresting concept, i would watch it but in the end it's dogfights that actually sell tickets, more people like to see pure action rather than just beep and boops on radar while the MC and his friends are sweating while staring at a screen, look at the latest Top Gun for exemple, modern planes but it's all dogfights even with missiles because BVR is boring as fuck, even thought in reality it's 99% of jet fighter combat
