If tiger could be domesticated, would they have been good war animals?
>>65190492Yeah
>>65190492not really. they stalk their prey, require lots of food and pets, and while being massive wouldn't be very good at the one thing you'd probably use them for which would be stealthy assassinations in jungle ops.
>>65190492Short answer, no. Unlike horses, tigers eat meat. Much more expensive to procure and transport than hay and if you can provide that much meat you might as well use it to field more infantry. Also, Tigers tend not to get along in large groups. If you try to field a unit of tigers there's a good chance they'll kill each other before the enemy.
>>65190492Yes
>>65190492A gentle reminder that seating multiple people on an elephant fucks up its spine, and using them as draught animals is the most severe form of animal abuse Also based tigri fucking up his oldest enemy
I could see using one to go behind enemy lines to kill people and fuck up logistics, but a dude on a horse would do a better job.On the field, probably not.
>>65190492Nah, they aren't the kind to charge in when outnumbered and they will abandonee a hunt if they think it's too risky.Rinos & Hipos are the true GOAT of attack animals because they will pick fights they will lose and rarely back down.
>>65190579what about lions? They're social.
>>65191349Arguably a better choice but you still run into the meat issue. Unrelated males also tend to fight for territory.
>>65190499fpbp, chkd
>>65192996You just know...
>>65193008imagine the belly rubsimagine it grabbing on and biting down on your arm as it starts kicking like a cat does
>>65193008>>65192996God's perfect murder machines.
>>65193036Disclaimer:boomerpostingBack in the day when I was young and in shape, I got to handle a pair of tiger cubs for a modeling shoot.I expected them to feel like chunky house cats, but boy was I wrong.Underneath all that loose floppy puppy-skin they're absolutely rock solid, nowhere near the semi-liquid texture of domestic house cats.Big cats are nothing but muscle, bone, teeth, and claws. Even as babies they're true apex predators. Murder machines to the core.
>>65190492>Lion sees dude on elephantWoah that's a really big elephant>Tiger sees dude on elephantLMAO imma get that little dude with his lil whip.Why are lions considered king of the jungle if they've got room temp iq?
>>65193091Lions are pack animals and the females do the hunting. Women can't do anything right. On the other hand... wolves. Those are some smart motherfuckers that will take down a fucking moose. Solitary big cats are clever. I got stalked by a fucking mountain lion one night when I lived in the pnw. Wasnt armed (of course that was the night) and walked backwards the last quarter mile home.
>>65193060photographer?
Lions and Tigers jobbed hard to guys with spears in arenas, the problem with them is that they lack the retarded courage a dog may have because they're too smart to charge humans with pointy sticks working together. They're opportunistic killers who are only really maneaters because they take advantage of malnourished 4 foot 6 tall Indians.
>>65193116>Lions are pack animals and the females do the hunting.The females do most of the hunting, but not all of it.Males step in sometimes too, but their job is mostly to fight of rival males and to produce more lion cubs.But yeah, as far as pack hunter go, lions are pretty shit.They regularly get mogged by hyenas, sometimes by packs of painted dogs, or even singular honey badgers rushing in to steal fresh kills with nothing but psychotic aggression, a complete lack of self-preservation instincts, and zero hesitation against multiple apex predators 20 times their size.As far as pack hunters go, wolves are absolutely SSS-tier, mostly because of intelligence, communication, and actual teamwork.In that regard they're leagues above any cats. Wolves need to be smart, because they need to plan and communicate to hunt effectively.Solitary predators don't need to be smart. They can get away with dumping all of their stat points into stealth (like crocodilians), or shear brute force like, polar bears.Solitary big cats belong firmly in this category. They just split their stat points evenly. They're stealthy and they're physically powerful, but they're not very smart.
>>65193091We'll look at top boxers and MMA fighters. It doesn't take IQ to fight
>>65193141You'd never believe it if you saw me now, but I was a professional hunk model in my youth.The tiger cub photo shoot was part of a scantily clad advertisement for particularly tasteless faux-silk bedsheets.
>>65193150>but they're not very smart.were going to have to agree to disagree on this point.>>65193168i dont like where this is going
>>65193150>Solitary predators don't need to be smart.Portia would like to have a word.
>>65193150>polar bearsNow these guys would actually be good war animals if they could be trained.
>>65193333if you're talking about jumping spiders, absolutely fucking based. had one as a pet. those little fuckers are so awesome! ill see if I can find a pic of maleficent.
>>65193339im envisioning a battle of hoth with polar bear riding rebel warriors
>>65193308speak for yourself.
>>65190492Domesticated and trainable for mass combat are actually two separate things, cows are domesticated but difficult to train for war. Across hundreds of generations obviously you can breed almost anything for anything, so I understand what you probably meant.Tigers bred for war for hundreds of years would probably be better for scouting (like helping a scout not reporting back themselves obviously) and skirmishing action than for mass combat. In a large group of men you'd probably use them mixed in with men in a staggered formation, grabbing enemies and dragging them out of formation while they were engaged with your own men. Dogs were used in some places like this, I believe.I have no idea how much Tigers eat, or if the logistics of keeping them alive would make Dogs more reasonable, but if you had war-tigers on hand that's probably how you'd use them.
>>65193441>Across hundreds of generations obviously you can breed almost anything for anything,Nope. Horses, dogs etc. are by evolutionary accident genetically easy to domesticate and breed variants. Their genes are "plastic" in the sense that small changes create huge phenotypic differences. That's why we have lots of horse and dog breeds that look so different from each other despite being the same species. No such plastic genes in big cats have ever been found and they can"t be domesticated unless you start doing genetic engineering.>bbbbut but housecatsHousecats self half-domesticated themselves and essentially parasitize humans.
>>65193528>Housecats self half-domesticated themselves and essentially parasitize humans.Fair trade though
>>65193528has anyone ever not sounded like a big faggot saying the word "Nope"? Is it even possible?
>>65193539>not having a rabies resistant army of ponsumsngmi
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>>65191346hippos don't lose fights.
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>>65191376The neat thing about people is they're made of meat.
>>65193091>TigerHunts his own food, like a peasant. >Lion"Lioness, bring me food. I am going to stay here, relaxing in the sun, and talking with my bros. Oh, and don't take too long, your king is hungry".Which of those sounds more 'king like' to you Anon?
>>65190492>good war animalsIn what way? A tiger eats a lot of meat and loses a fight against one twink with a shortsword. A 600lb tiger losing to a 100lb peasant with a 18in knife is not winning you wars.
>>65195464>Tiger loses to 100 pound faggotPeople thought Dogs were useful in war.
>>65194905The bad thing about war is that is mostly just marching around.
>>65193060And then they get Sneaky. Seriously, how does a 300 pound animal get away with being an Ambush Predator?
>>65196805Their role is usually not direct combat.
