Is .45 ACP still the peak handgun round?
>>65191052it never was
>>65191052it always was
>>65191052it never wasn't
>>65191052Meh, it kills "changing consumer habits" that break into your home with the intent to violently assault you.
>>65191096it always will be
>>65191096>>65191265for all eternity
>>65191052double stack .45 is too big for my Asian hands.
>>65191052Yeah
9mm is preferred by pros on the streets
>>65192070>9mm is preferred by pros on the streetsno, that would be the glawk fawty u dunce.
>>65191052Tum.
>>65191102It can single handedly defeat a Tiger I tanksaw the documentary
>>65191052Secret Latina fetish thread?
>>65191052marry me sochi!
>>65191052I dunno but it's the only round I call out between shots and imagine my target explodes when I shoot, so that has to count for something
>>65191052Why is a Latina not carrying a .38 Super?
>>651917742011 .45s have the same side-to-side width as 9mm 2011s.
>>65191052Xochi is loveXochi is life
Why shoot .45 Auto when you can shoot .45 Super?
>>65192508>45 SuperAll they did was increase the velocity, not necessarily the bullet weight, which is why it failed. 45 Super should've specced a 300gr bullet. We like .45 because it's big and slow.
>>65191052I bet her pits are tasty.
>>65192515>which is why it failed.Lurk moar.
>>65191052Damn right, only documented kill of a TIGER tank by a pistol. Better than a Sherman.
>>65192515>not necessarily the bullet weighthttps://www.speer.com/bullets/handgun-bullets/jacketed-handgun-bullet/19-4481.htmlLearn2handload
>>65192237PUTAUTA
>>65192237>implying my appreciation for latinas is secret
>>65193250Fair.
>>65193347Me, cleverly disguised as a tissue paper.
No. 9mm is. There's a reason it's become a default.
>>65193815Because most people can't shoot for shit? Cops and soldiers included.
>>65191052I used to shoot almost exclusively 9mm but it's been about 50:50 with .45 after I got my mk23.
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>>65193815.40 S&W and .45 ACP are the two best semiauto handgun chamberings available for self defense, carry and urban CQ combat
>>65192508Hot take, one of the best things about .45 is that you can get it in heavier and larger guns which helps shrink the difference in felt recoil between it and the "good enough" crowd(doubly so for people with XL hands). Hot rodding .45 is a step in the wrong direction outside of maybe some hunting or large game defense niche uses, even that's debatable considering how well a 255gr +p hard cast works for those uses.
>>65194275(amazing) /k/ anon that knows what he's talking about
For me it’s still Sheryl Crow.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KIYiGA_rIls
>>65191233Checked and it was literally developed for this purpose (well, drugged-up Filipinos, but basically the same when piddly .36 cal wouldn't do much more than irritate them)
>>65193815>normie opinions matter>McDonalds is the best food>Bad Bunny is the best musicUnironically kys
>>65194275Multiple PDs reported that the 185gr +P outperformed standard hardball in their guns (plural of anecdote is not data etc.)Though the original "dum dum" was a 200gr +P soft point, Speer makes a decent approximation of such with their modern G2 Gold Dot projos, haven't tested one yet but things might get a bit Planet Of The Apes this summer so we'll see.
>>65192237I would democratize her/10
>>65191052Nah get your ass some jet fires, love me some 25 acp
>>65194840I keep seeing people talk about Bad Bunny but I've not ever heard of them, I dare not search.>>65191052Reminder .45 does more damage in Enlisted than 9mm (.30 also does more damage than 7.62)
>>65194866Of course it did. It’s broadly agreed upon by users and wound ballisticians that JHPs, many of which enlarge wound volume by 100+%, are substantially more effective than FMJ. But caliberlets and poors will screech “SOURCE??? WHERE’S THE DATA???” as if it weren’t self evident that a 0.8” hole which dwarfs two 0.32” holes stacked next to each other, is in fact more effective than a single 0.32” hole.The way to get that 0.8” hole is to use 230 gr +P HST BTW. Gold Dot G2 has somewhat better post-barrier performance but one of the advantages of .45 is that it doesn’t need to make major concessions in performance against unprotected targets to work passably against auto glass to begin with.
>>65194956Nah get your 45 outa here ya smuck 25.acp is the master race bullet, hell its perfect for home defence if that is what you are using it for and compact enough to be a good concealed carry
>>6519496925. ACP is pretty effective for defending against a home yes, would question its form factor though.
>>65194956Are the HSTs better than the Rangers? The +P 230gr Ranger rounds expand up to a full inch(!!) in gel. Not sure how that translates to real world performance if at all.There's a morbidly curious part of me that wants to run something like a 300gr lead SJHP in as hot loaded a case as possible just for sheer lulz. The fireball and recoil would be nasty af but the terminal effects would be even worse.
>>65194983The issue with the numbers on the expanded Rangers is that they’re counting the signature talons behind the leading meplat of the bullet. It’s believed that those talons may not contact tissue fully or at all for much of the path length because the temporary cavitation from the leading edge pushes the flesh out of the way.Now when the bullet slows down and the TSC becomes smaller towards the end of the track the talons do help, the bullet is likely to have already traversed through most or all vital tissue in its path by then though.HST tends to be a little larger when discounting the talons and historically also more consistent lot to lot, it seems the latter advantage may be eroding a bit (maybe Federal hasn’t kept on top of their replacement intervals for their skiving machinery) but generally I would still trust the HST more.But honestly not a big difference, it has been remarked that the +P loadings of 230 gr Ranger-T are fast enough to expand the projectiles at close range even with a bad lot of ammo.
>>65195000Digits confirm. Thanks anon, I must be a boomer at heart ig cause I didn't get to live thru the "Black Talon" era but I love the idea of super instant death bullets.
>>65194866Have you ever heard the phrasecorrelation does not equal causation (its a nerdy phrase I know). It wasn't the fact that the bullet being lighter made it better; it was that hollow points were better than soft points when those departments decided to make the transition.
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