what made the british navy and its sailors the most capable in the world?
According to Britroach naval historian Andrew Lambert, the US is not a naval power at all and lacks a true "seapower culture" unlike the UK, Netherlands, Venice and even Japan, but is instead a continental land power for which naval power is ancillary and non-essential, and in which it is fundamentally disinterested. In pic related, he insults America several times thusly:>"In the Cold War the sea occupied a marginal strategic role, a ‘flank’ to be secured and a supply line to be protected. While contemporary America possesses a vast military navy, it thinks and acts like a land power. Britain does not.">"After 1956 Western sea power was reduced to the collective effort of medium- sized sea states, led by the wholly continental agendas of the United States.">"The US neither needed nor wanted a global sea- control navy, but it was most anxious that Britain should not have one. By cutting the scale of British naval strength the Washington process reduced the strategic weight and diplomatic impact of naval force in world politics between 1922 and 1941."
>>65191957This is a pre-flight mentality, seapower culture is subordinate to airpower culture.
>>65191957This post is getting spammed in multiple threads.Its division posting obviously, but is it a waste of flesh copypasting or just a bot?
>>65191964>seapower culture is subordinate to airpower culture.a ship can carry uber large missiless able to intercept shit in orbit going mach fuck,just give the missile its own radar too and stuff and you kill off stealth also.airpower got nothing on ship power
>>65191974True power is orbital.
>>65191969Different OPs, same response. Some jeet is running a script I guess.
>>65191948They got curbstomped by the USN when the britcucks outnumbered them about 100:1 in 1812, forced to watch powerless in the Revolution as the USN literally invaded their shithole country on a ship that was actively sinking before even being shot at (that then BTFO of their most advanced frigate in the subsequent duel lmao), did fuck all in WW1 except have multiple battle cruisers self destruct when they they realized britroaches were on board, then got utterly buttfucked by the Japanese in WW2. It's one of the worst combat records of any western military branch in living memory, but it makes sense, i mean they are british what did you expect?
Why are thirdies so incapable of being subtle when spamming the board?
>Our local tard got schooled earlier about who had the largest logistics fleet during ww2Kek>BritroachWhat is this forced meme.Nice narrative framing, I can see you replying to yourself btwAs seen >>65192012 with the same terminology he males brit seethe threads and seethes about brits.>>65192022He can't help it, it's warriortard.The bongs have won so many naval battles historically that his opinions can only be seen as pure delusion, they were so dominant that 90 years after the fall of their empire they still occupy this cucks mind 24/7.
>>65191948Well, press gangs of course.
>>65193313I opened the thread to post exactly this
>>65191957>"The US neither needed nor wanted a global sea- control navy, but it was most anxious that Britain should not have one. By cutting the scale of British naval strength the Washington process reduced the strategic weight and diplomatic impact of naval force in world politics between 1922 and 1941."This is why I'm always livid when people suggest the Euros should rearm.
>>651919482 things mainly, Henry VIII's dissolution of the monasteries, and the realisation that Britain just didn't have the numbers to dominate Europe through ground forces the way the French could at that time. The Royal Navy had existed since about the ninth century (IIRC its original mission was 'keep the Vikings away from out coast'), but it was the money Henry VIII looted from the monasteries that allowed it to grow from being a relatively effective way to defend the coastline into something that became a genuinely effective way to project power at a high monetary but relatively low human cost (relative to the effect achieved). While a lot of people like to spam the 'cheese-eating surrender monkey' meme today, and France has fallen a very long way from where it was, France was the undoubted land power in Europe for most of history so far. England, as a rising power, needed a way to at least pretend it could match that 'final boss of Europe' status France had, but didn't have the manpower to credibly threaten France with more than raids - undisputed naval power let them work around that. There's a reason that England/Britain's goto strategy for war in Europe for most of history was 'blockade their ports and wait for their economy to die'. Once the RN had become the main focus of British defence planning the investments into the navy became a self-reinforcing cycle, allowing Britain to expand into global Imperial holdings far more easily than they would have been able to without it, which further justified increasing investment, which lead to better results, that lead to more investment, etc. Britain will probably never be able to reclaim the 'two-power standard' that the Royal Navy held at the peak of its power, but unless the current shower of bastards in power in London decide to keep ignoring or consciously harming the RN Britain should still have been able to keep its spot as one of the major naval players in NATO and globally.
>>65191948"The beauty of their women and the deliciousness of their food made the englishmen the best sailors in the world"
>>65191948Anson and Pepys.
>>65191948Rum and lashings>>65191957And yet America has the most powerful navy in the world, and has for 80 years.
>>65194400Kekked and checked.
>>65194418More as a result of having the most powerful everything, and not from any particular fixation on sea power. He's right, most Americans see air power as the basis of our military and everything else as ancillary. Which is a problem because there are many things that can't be done with air power, and now in the Strait of Hormuz we're reaping the results of 30 years of naval underinvestment.
>>65191948The beauty of their women and the flavor of their cuisine.>>65191957what a retarded post. Of course a brit would say something retarded like that. Yeah, Japan, the island nation that had no navy and historically got bodied constantly by Korea because they couldn't build ships has a maritime culture. Sure. Meanwhile America, that immediately dick kicked the Barbary Corsairs and ended their bullshit racket permanently has no seapower culture. Right.
>>65194400spbp
>>65193251>he males brit seethe threads and seethes about brits.>Can't refute a single point>it, it, its warriortard!>Anon is also OP!I guess it makes sense brits have really only perfected one thing, coping strategies which have zero connection to objective reality. I mean their only contribution to WW2 was getting buttfucked in France, getting anally annihilated in Asia, then begging the USA to come on side, then releasing one of the most popular and famous songs of the war which was literally just about US GIs wholesale cucking the entire british 'male' population. Lol. Lmao, even
>>65191957What part of >from sea to shining seaDo these niggers not understand?What vintage cope are they on?
what went wrong?
>>65195634britain
>>65195634>spaniards go sailing around and discover new lands full of gold left poorly guarded by technologically inferior browns>spaniards conquer and farm the browns for gold and XP>broke-ass bongs start raiding spaniard ships and stealing their gold>bongs steal the idea of farming the browns for gold and XP>spaniards take issue with this>war ensues where the bongs and spaniards fight for control over both the browns and the gold>spaniards lose hard, mainly due to shear bad luck>bongs level up from regional to global power>bongs invade and practically enslave like a quarter of the world>bongs farm the browns for gold and XP to grow bigger and even more powerful>frogs try to do the same thing>frogs team up with ex-bong rebels in the colonies>bongs fight the frogs over ownership of Ohio>bongs lose>frogs win but go broke and collapse, ending up even worse than the bongs>fail to learn anything from the frogs' mistakes>krauts tries to do the whole colony thing>bongs and krauts fight>bongs do what the frogs did and win at exorbitant expense, twice>bongs collapse financially>bongs lose ability to control browns>bongs lose ability to profit from browns>bongs go even broker>bongs suffer >80 years of "managed decline" as the smart bongs and the rich bongs flee elsewhere and the sacred homeland gets mobbed by browns seeking gold and dominance over their former masters as the bong government cucks out and actively helps the browns achieve their goals
>>65195891this except there was never any real need to let them into the homeland. despite the crowing about GDP they are a net drain in every sense of the word
>>65191948LOL
>>65191957>By cutting the scale of British naval strength the Washington process reduced the strategic weight and diplomatic impact of naval force in world politics between 1922 and 1941."LMAO, absolutely delusional. Britain was literally spending itself into bankruptcy trying to keep the two power-standard alive, and the Wahsington and London Naval Treaties provided the off-ramp they needed to stop that.
>>65191948Strong naval traditions, to the point where the Navy was the military institution of prestige and extreme espirit de corps, ala modern US Marines.Lots of drills, to the point where English battle 'convention' was to 'close in with the enemy' because their crews would reliably outperform and outshoot those of other nations and point blank just reduced all the other variables.And lots of industry about it. So much industry that equipping the British Navy is (arguably) what started the Industrial Revolution in the first place.Also broadly it's an island nation. Naval defense was always going to be their primary spending point.
>>65194276By crikey! We gotta special one today. This little fella here is the Euranus poorus, commonly called the Europoor. It's such a treat to see them in their natural habitat, look at the way he rejects any accountability or agency. A perfect specimen.Unfortunately, due to invasive species these incredible creatures probably won't be around much longer. It's a real shame, back in the day this area used to be filled with the sound of strongly worded statements and working groups. Now you're lucky to if you hear the sound of a coalition government falling after 17 days.Now I'm gonna release this bloke into the wild. Maybe he'll find a nice sheila to mate with, but probably not.
>>65195634>All these ships>Scrapped almost all, including all the BattleshipsName one bigger sin.
Its not like half the shanties from the nineteenth century would go on about how badass the American mariners were or anything...Here we have a British song about how cool they were, how everyone wanted to be on their ships, and how they pretty much ran the port of Liverpool.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FXUIkg2LqQ
