Absolute KINO scene of anti air defense in Novorossiysk. This was the attack were the ‘Admiral Essen’ frigate was hit (23rd May 2026)WHAT ARE THOSE LASERS?with sound>https://files.catbox.moe/k10glb.mp4
>all that dakka>still can't hit a comically slow lawnmowermany such cases
>>65191959>WHAT ARE THOSE LASERS?left over techo lights sold as anti drone lasers
>>65191959>Use a defensive weapon that operates at the speed of light >Still missHow
>>65191980Probably just LED searchlights.If those are lasers they're scattering like fucking crazy to show up in the camera CCD llike that.
Why the fuck can't they hit it? I'm genuinely confused
>>65191997Probably a bunch of mobiks firing MGs over open sights.
>>65191959>WHAT ARE THOSE LASERS?Air defense light projectors. They light up target at night so it can be visible to gunners without night vision.
>>65191959That small explode at 0:20, did someone fire a unlocked igla?
Meanwhile in Russian news.Small caliber AAA machinguns (up to 7.62) were already approved prior.Cyberpunk mode "On".
>>65192018There's already talk of banks being told to buy their own Pantsirs and place them on rooftops
>>65192018So they're getting an early start on the Balkanization and civil war by setting up some megacorp factions early?
>>65192016It just flew straight and sellf destructed, so probably yes.
>>65191959>>65191978>>65191982>>65191997>Empire gunners trying to shoot down a Rebel pilot
>>65192018beyond the funny haha russia dumbthe modern state is built on the monopoly of the state to use force on it's territory and duty to defend it's people fro out side use of forcethe russian state is now telling it's people to use force because it can't stop the outside use of forceit's a first kiddy step down the road to a failed state
>>65191959Intensify forward batteries, I don't want anything to get through!>>65192044motherfucking kek>>65192018https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OR6Z4wBO4hMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAFxDdl78Ik>>65192052what are you, the board's resident intellectual?
>>65192032Where are they supposed to get them from? Pantsirs don't grow on trees.
>>65192056buy them from the Russian government, duhit's the same principle behind every privatisation; the state has no money and their last resort is to tap private entities for cashc'mon, don't you guys watch Shark Tank?
>>65191997Hitting something in three (four) dimensions without advanced equipment is surprisingly hard, especially since distance and time are much trickier to handle than the seemingly obvious up-down and left-right. You need to put your bullet in the same place and time as the drone in the middle of the sky. Also when you miss a shot it's hard to tell why you did because there are no splashes, so you can't adjust and you just keep shooting wrong.
>>65192053>what are you, the board's resident intellectual?more like sleep deprived and irritated
>>65192018Surely none of these companies will start selling machineguns to the middle east or Africa or something.
>>65191959>use some analogovnet antimatter beams and turbolasers against comically slow drones>still fail to take it down in timeSo this is the might of second superpower...
Hmm, the drone doesn't appear to be glowing blue after being illuminated.Does this wavelength of light have any advantages in terms of range or other characteristics?
>>65192052>it's a first kiddy stepWe are ling down that path.>>65192053>the board's resident intellectualYou need better heros.
>>65192034Think of warlord China but even more retarded and with more buttrape.
Hit or miss? From the drone footage it seems like it landed 10 meters on the ground in front of a target.
>Ballistic Skill 5It is what it is...
>>65192096I'd rather not.
>>65192108Think they hit it, camera might cut out due to loss of signal as it loses altitude
>>65192034This mindset is proof of how stupid the America is. Obviously you let the megacorps buy equipment, so you can secure yourself a role on their board prior to the collapse
>>65192061>You need to put your bullet in the same place and time as the drone in the middle of the skyThis why you sweep the path of the drone and shoot a whole lot of bullets at the same time, if everyone was employing proper shooting techniques someone is bound to hit.
Somebody post the picture of the oil refinery exploding with all the lasers that looks like a scene from War of The World's (the 50s one)
>>65192076What's analogovnet?
>>65192151a russian made up word for a shitty copy
>>65192151"Doesn't have analogues in the world"Stapple phrase used in Russian military and other tech advertising."analogovnet" is wordplay of this phrase in Russian language turning it into "analshit" word.
>>65191980dazzlers
>>65191959>ABSOLUTE KINOFUCKING CHING CHONG STILL DOESNT ALLOW AUDIO STREAM ON 99% OF THE BOARDS
>>65191959>WHAT ARE THOSE LASERS?Dazzlers to try and blind drone cameras, they have been around a long time and were used to blind ATGMs back in the day.
>>65191959STANDING HERE, I REALISE
>>65192018doesn't this fall under "discrediting the RuAF" since they basically imply that the army can't protect you?
>>65192191Too wide.Dalzzlers would look like line beam.
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>>65192209doesnt matter its not like they are streaming at 4k
>>65191959yeah i dont think it actually had a direct hit on the ship their footage doesnt align with the actual footageon their footage the drone is focused abeam on that big whatever the fuck this is in front of the shiton the actual footage it seems the drone either hit the front starboard side or those white big ass stuff
>>65192209NTA, lasers close enough to the visual specrum to be picked up by a camera would be near IR for better heat transfer but as you can see from the "color" this is near UV.
>>65192217nevermind it actually didnt hit the ship at all
>>65192134They are doing that, it's kinda hard to tell since the cameraman is nearly perpendicular line of fire but if you look closely you can see it. But you can also see that almost every single round is flying high over the drone's path, and only a handful of shots are too low. So like anon said >>65192061 they probably can't even see that they're aiming too high, especially with poor or nonexistent optics.
>>65192217>>65192222>ship is fine blyat)))
>>65192229look at their footage again anon either THEIR footage is from another attempt on which it hit whatever that thing in front of the ship is or its from this attempt and the angle is very weird
>>65192236The footage is of the same strike on the same ship you vodkanigger, and like every other successful long-distance strike of this kind, the fpv footage cuts out a second or two before impact. The blast also has a center that is at least 10m above the water line, so it didn't fall short. But I'm sure you're right and nothing happened, just like picrel that returned to port under its own power
>>65192250ok cumgargler explain to us this then did it teleport?
>>65192253Whoever edited that video did not sync the original videos. Did you realize that someone had to mix two different videos to produce one, yeah?
>>65192261this is literally the last second on their footage so no it couldnt have hitted the ship as is so either it didntor the video is older
>>65192264The videos are not in sync do you know what that means?
>>65192253>blyat how come video cuts off, must mean glorious puccian vessel survived)))Come on man. It's not 2022 any more. Every single person on this board, yourself included, has seen successful FPV strike videos where the signal is lost for the final second or two.
>>65192267who cares if its not in sync anon? we are talking about what the fpv operator is focused on he is literally hitting the containers or whatever those things are
just like general Zhukovy intended
>>65192293>ship is fine blyat, the explosion merely hit containers)))The vatnigger mind is an incredible thing to behold.
>>65191959So if you fly very straight, slow and super casual- russian AA won't actually hit you?More you know I guess!
>>65192317They should start sending dummy drones with no payload en masse so that russian air defense keeps dumping ammo on their own civilian settlements
>>65192293You claimed that the drone had to teleport because you didn't realize that the videos are not in sync now shut the fuck up.
>>65192324At this point, price of a warhead is kinda cheap on those FP-2's, its just something like 200lb of hi-ex and worth the lulz at any pricePlus you know the vatniks are just gunna shoot off their entire ammo at everything anyway
>>65192052Here they are copying Ukraine. Or at least insipired by.
>>65192253You niggers better hope Ukraine hasn't researched the Chronosphere
>>65192326yes obviously thats what i was reffering to not the fact that you know CONTAINERS
>>65191959>video looks like they're fighting off an alien invasion>some fuckin space age laser shit makes an appearance>then, a comically slow drone appears in the shot>slowly, sloooowly makes its way to its target and hits itthis is like a comedy
>>65191959something is in the way all those guns were shooting for a good 30 seconds, then an extremely slow large drone barging in, flying by and hitting the target
In their defense, they're pretty far out from the drone, using low caliber ammo, and not running full tracer belts. I think that would make aiming significantly easier. Not sure why you wouldn't have a few technicals with bed mounted ZSU-23-2s for this exact situation though.
>>65192368If Russia hasn't learnt to keep a few ZSUs and MANPADs around their ships by now they never will.
>>65191959cool, so much lead in the air and it cant hit sheed, nice \visuals though
>>65191959wat air defence cuckolds doing?
>>65191959>red tracersWait I thought that Soviet/Russians used green tracers?
>>65191959Well at least they are firing out to sea rather than into the city this time.
>>65192394>last time
>>65192223A reminder that turret gunners on bombers shot down a lot of planes using basic sights. From a platform also moving in 3 dimensions, without the aid of knowing where their targets were coming from, against faster and more manuverable targets that shot back. Maybe the russians can get those old WW2 training films off youtube and let their conscripts watch them between rape sessions.
What I am confused about is there seems to be ATGM fired as well... At nothing. Also a lot of the rounds seemed to be fired nowhere near the drone when it actually arrives. Like at the start they're firing somewhere else. Was that a distraction drone or something?
>>65192411>blyat cumrag drones!>where?>I don't know cyka, somewhere in that direction pidor!>I don't have a target!>BLYAT I'LL MAKE YOU A ROOSTER WITH A HOLE IN YOUR SPOON IF YOU DON'T START SHOOTING!They're doing what poorly trained infantry with heavy weapons have always done, throw everything at the wall and hope it sticks.
>>65192411A lot of the time it's conscriptovich not seeing anything, not really knowing how to shoot either, and just shooting at random so that he doesn't get raped for being the one guy who wasn't trying to shoot it down
>>65192421>>65192422I mean I understand it in FPS games where you get hit markers so you spray to find guys hidden in bushes and shit and I understand the>We gotta do somethingBut a lot of those rounds could have hit the ship and even medium machine gun rounds could hit something expensive and damage it. I know early on commanders would order their artillery to shell empty fields because they were expected to use up their allotted artillery rounds and if they didn't ask for more then they were questioned why they hadn't fired them at targets, but this is 5 years in...
>>65192394I wouldn't be too sureThere is quite a bit of city across the bay to thhe right
>>65192056They don't need the whole system, just the combat module. Pic rel, fukken lmao.
>>65192437Here's how they deploy the AD cuck chairs in question.
>>65192439>vatnigs in the surrounding buildings be like
>>65192429>shit down rangeNot their problem.>following stupid, wasteful ordersDon't want to get broomed again.>five years inEmbezzlement has only gotten worse because at some point this shit is going to fall apart so steal what you can now.I think you're struggling to grasp just how shitty the russians are.
>>65192059>don't you guys watch Shark Tank?The American version of Money no Tora?The Russian state isn't out of money, they lack foreign reserves. Maybe they can make a Beryozka for materiel.
>>65192439>>65192437The Pantsir underneath is essential. How else the AD cuckold supposed to watch in comfort?
>>65192439>Turning a civilian building into a military target
>>65192439This is in Moscow by the way>Adding even more AD to the 80+ AD systems already stationed in and around the city
>>65192509Every high-rise can be a rouble-store flakturm if you think about.
>>65192453>nobody outside russia wants rubles>all the shit russia needs to buy they have to pay for with forex or bullion>the russian state is out of forex and selling bullion>the russian state isn't out of moneyZimbabwe was never broke either by that logic.
>>65192439The AD cuck must have a great view from there.
>>65192197Does that matter if it already has a preprogrammed flight path?
>>65192516The question is how they're supposed to get foreign currency by selling to their own people.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beryozka_(Russian_retail_store)
>>65192525Obviously they "convince" their own people to trade in all their forex and bonds for rubles.
>>65192317Since they cannot hit what they aim at, it is best to help them aim at you.
>>65192453>>65192525>The Russian state isn't out of money, they lack foreign reservesMoney and reserves are only the medium of transfer, anon. Useful products and services are what the economy is really made of. Foreign reserves is, in principle, irrelevant to the question of how well their exports are doing. China for example exports fucktons of products but the yuan is not in high demand.In reality therefore what you're trying to say is that the Russian state lacks foreign INCOME, which is true. Russian exports have fallen by about half of prewar figures, in 2025 it accounted for only 13.5% of GDP.Which is why, as I said, they're tapping domestic currency, aka domestic products and services. The private entities they are inviting to buy Pantsirs with are companies owned by Russians and which sell products and services to Russians for profits which are kept by Russians. The State is asking them to pony up.
>>65192525had those in poland too, during commie rulehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pewex
>>65191997>Why the fuck can't they hit it? I'm genuinely confusedZero fire control. Thats small arms fire tracers. Even a slow drone does 50 meters per second, if you have 2-3 seconds flight time then you have to aim very far ahead of it.
>>65192388shooting their load, obviously
>>65192368>I think that would make aiming significantly easier.How do you distinguish between your tracers and tracers from ten other machineguns?
>>65191959I'm so happy to see that the air defense cuckholds are still using rave lights to celebrate whenever there's a raid.
>>65192317Reminds me of the kid who landed a Cessna at Red Square.
>>65192439Man, can't wait for the block wars footage in a few years.
>>65192018>be boss of bratva group (russian mob)>buy shitty old warehouse in industrial warehouse through front companie>bribe or forge your way into being recognized as as an industry worth defending>now able to buy missile launching systems, AAA and HMG’sThe tsar’s wisdom knows no bounds, the gloves are in the ass and hohols will know everything
>>65192667This is how non goverment forces can actually arm themselves enough to challenge the government. The 'Donbass rebels found SAM systems we didn't give them it' but for real.
>>65192667are there any good books on the Bratva? I've heard of the name but don't know much about their activities and organisation>>65192697nahhistorically any successful revolution has always been carried out by the military
>>65192406B17s, 24s and 29s had analog computer fire control for turrets.
>>65192565I mean, looks like a Rammstein live show.
>>65192406...you got a lot to learn about WW2 aircraft sights
>>65191959How was anti air defense in Romania?
>>65192253When you look at the impact by frame it's pretty clearly a hit. As the light of the explosion fades you can even see the pier between the explosion and it's reflection. Absolute best case for the ship is the drone whacked the pier or something on it right next to the ship and detonated. Still would have damaged the vessel with that big of a boom that close. If it hit that was a nasty hit and there's a good shot either way it also just ate a big ass EFP too. The thing that tells me it definitely did damage is it you can see dust clearly come off the back of the ship for several frames. Containers next to it getting hit would not have prevented it from being badly damaged and might have merely added more shrapnel to the mix. That was a big fucking bomb and if by some miracle the ship is still afloat it's going to take a far bigger miracle for it to not be salvage.If the ship isn't absolutely fucked they're incredibly lucky.
>>65191959>enough ammo out downrange to kill a full day’s worth of mobiks>a comically slow drone bumbles towards its target, unimpededman
>>65192714Who said it had to be a successful revolution. Instability and fracturing of the country is a lot easier when private entities have heavy equipment. Just look at Wagner.
>>65192110you mean BS 2
>>65192714Therefore, the way to a successful revolution is to militarize yourself.
So why dont laser guided rockets work against drones? or do they need a heat signature to lock on? we have seen helis get shot all the time.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvZaA1arnzE
>>65192439>no snapping a wire or two to drop the whole thing on the roof
>>65191997AA-Sights are unknown technology in puccrn.
>>65192096Russia, long united, must divide. Who will be Russia's Cao Cao, Dong Zhuo and Lu Bu?
>>65193219I kek every fucking time.
>>65192034>>65192096Boy I sure am excited to see the sheer amount of abject human misery and depravity that will come out of that,
>>65193084>So why dont laser guided rockets work against drones?They do, Ukraine and the west has things like AKPWS or whatever the acronym is.>or do they need a heat signature to lock on?Drones produce heat and AIM missiles have been used to shoot them down
>>65191959I wish to know how much money both sides used in this video.
>>65192018IDK I'd be worried some government organization will appear on my doorstep after a particularly bad attack to appropriate my expensive AD system under one of many existing legislations. Seeking state aid to rebuild vital facilities seems easier.
>>65192034Sign me up to tune into the war-corp warsWildberries, Aliexpress, Oil Farmers, Gun clans and War-Truk riders all fighting it out for a slice of Russia and getting that life expectancy down to levels not seen since the last ice age
>>65192406The waist guns and some of the early nose guns were the only ones without some form of computing gunsight. On B-29s, everything had a computer.
>>65192521If it's flying to a GPS location it won't help, if it's using TV guidance it will.I don't mean man in loop but contrast tracking like old Maverick missiles or image recognition.
We should just bring back an updated version of the M51 skysweeper. It was designed to counter fast prop planes and early jets, so fast moving drones should be no problem.
>>65192032>Making every bank a legitimate military target
Would be more efficient to target starlink.
>>65193050Wagner is as "private" as the National Guard>>65193074unless they get their hands on a bunch of S-300s and ballistic missiles, they're not militarised enough still
>>65191997Because life isn't a video game and hitting a small moving target at a significant distance it hard AF. Doubly so when you don't have a shit load of training on the guns that you're using. Most of the guys operating those guns didn't have even 50 shots in their whole practice.Regular russian military practice for a gun is 17 shots. The lucky ones have two mags worth of practice shooting. And that's for AKs, where ammo is basically free and abundant, while the barrel life is infinite in comparison. Now imagine what practice those AAA retards have lol.
>>65193061Bs 5+ nigga, it's not the 4th edition anymore
>>65192056Correct. They do spring up like myshrooms after rain around monkebunkers though. Like the one in valdai
>>65192406Majority of these hits were done at ranges below 500 meters. That is the point, AAA hit probability falls down very had with rwnage increase.
>>65191997I recommend you to install il2 game and to fly custom battles as bomber gunner.
>>65194314>unless they get their hands on a bunch of S-300s and ballistic missilesWorking on it.
>>65192406If you'd had played Warthunder you would know that a target chasing you with a fairly limited relative speed is a much easier target than one that is flying accross your field of vision towards another target.
>>65194084>>65192504>military targetWhy the fuck do you think that matters?Do you really think the Ukies have excess munitions for terrorism? No. They will continue selecting targets based on what is beneficial for the overall war effort.An apartment block or a bank ending up as collateral does not bring benefit Ukraine, it doesn't make any difference whether a Pantsir is located near military or civilian structures, in fact military structures as collateral would be much preferred.
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>>65194992What would air defense cuckold even do in this situation?
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>>65195006Volunteer for a probing
>>65192324The explosives aren't the expensive or hard to build part of a long range attack drone
>>65191959>>65191978Some Daffy Duck shit. Did nobody watch old Waltz animations on this topic???
>>65192717>>65192766>>65194004>>65194857So what you're saying is 1940s tech is better than whatever Russia is using?
>>65195479https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Tarantowe just didn't have drones filming humiliation of tradcucks in 4k
>>65195479>1940s tech is better than whatever Russia is usingyes, in the sense that a lot of Russian AAA is probably just people pouring lead over open sights. hell, by 1945 the Allies were firing radar-laid prox-fuzed AA which is definitely more sophisticated than whatever the fuck they're firing in that picno, in the sense that 1940s Russian tech was just pouring lead over open sights. so TECHNICALLY, Russia is not using worse tech than they were using in the 1940s...
>>65195519https://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USN/ref/Ordnance/GS-Mk14/index.htmlI believe today you can literally write app for android phone doing that but nobody did that.
>>65195537the real problem is estimating range and heading. even speed is just a function of these two important factors.
>>65195587You can calculate those two with just a fixed camera if you know the rough speed and size of the target.
>>65192401Is that the 10 mm socket?
>>65192032>banks being told to buyThat's just some accounting trick to pay for the Moscow's defenses without it being on government books, isn't it?
>>65197196not so much an accounting trick as a financing schemeunlike China, there's no need to fool anyone about what is and isn't on the government books. this is simply about raking a bit more loose change from under the couch
>>65192264The processor on the drone has to undergo a very complex video processing pipeline, take the frame from the camera, buffer it, encode it, compress it, do local analysis, all this shit takes time, leading to delay, potentially up to a second or so.Drone could not delivery it's last frames because the data-in-flight was shreded physically.t. iot engineer with video processing background
>>65197277You can have a video call right now with your mother with just a fraction of a second of delay on the video.
>>65197277have you seen the board on those drones anon? for them to carry any sort of ai bs on them they gonna need a huge ass cpu and ofc battery to supply it in order to do a real time analysis
Faggot dron got through anyway.Grim.
>>65192044I will never make fun of Stormtroopers again, now i know its possible in real life
>>65191959All this dakka but no manpads?
>>65197284Is that call routed through limited wireless infrastructure in an active warzone, retard?
>>65197381>limited wireless infrastructureHow is that in any way related to>a very complex video processing pipeline, take the frame from the camera, buffer it, encode it, compress it, do local analysis, all this shit takes time, leading to delay, retard?
>>65197374there was one manpad, looks like it was fired without being locked on. I suspect many of those drones have a too low IR signature for manpads that are designed for jets. Especially those piston or wankel engine rear-motor design when they fly straight towards the shooter.
>>65192250I love these deep sea sonar/pics of wrecks
>>65197386All of that is limited by signal infrastructure and the hardware in the drone. Needless to say, neither of those will be excellent in a fucking warzone using systems literally designed to be expended.
