Then what is the left arm?
>>65197218dis armed
>>65197218/thread
>>65197218I think the Walther P38 ejected left?
Just a stump, Suez Crisis injury.
>>65197218Not a gun. Diplomacy or democracy or some abstract shit like that.
>>65197218The G3
>>65197218The AKM
>>65197218The Torah
>>65197230Right Arm of the Free World Who Can't Afford Arms>>65197575Right Arm of the Slightly Less Free World>>65197609Right Arm of the Previously Free World>>65197678Right Arm of the Expensive to Buy, Cheap to Sell, never EVER Free World
>>651972182nd FAL
>>65197218>Then what is the left arm?nukes.
What are the arms of the unfree world?
>>65197796Breeding faster then the rate of killing each other over stupid shit.
>>65197796AKM
>>65197218compound interest
>>65197218the superior firearm
>>65197218The G3.First time in history that the left arm is about 10 times better than the right one though.
>>65197218>Then what is the left arm?Fiat currency
>>65197942Why do G3 owners NEED to tell everyone how good their rifle is? (It's not)
>>65197942>ambi safetyleftoid freak spotted
>>65198047nobody actually cares about what I or you say on the internet >>65198051its quite nice actually, you can still slap it with the right hand.
>>65197218The meat beater of the free world
>>65198047It’s poorfag cope as usual. Even during the Cold War the G3 was marketed to countries that were too broke to afford the FAL loicense from Belgium. The G3 was never really considered good until it was shrunk down into the MP5, which made the ergos bearable and the recoil negligible.
>>65198117G3 is a better gun in every way
Left hand/arm of X usually means the evil side
>>65198121FAL has>modern ergos despite being much older than the G3>folding stock option>last round bolt hold open>manual gas adjustment and better recoil impulse>lighter than the G3 despite having a longer barrel>don’t have to remove the buttstock just to clean it>works better with modern lights/lasers due to non-retarded charging handle placementWhat does the G3 have besides the reddit slap?
>>65198117>Even during the Cold War the G3 was marketed to countries that were too broke to afford the FAL loicense from Belgium. The G3 was never really considered good until it was shrunk down into the MP5, which made the ergos bearable and the recoil negligible.Neither of that is true and the recoil is extremely similar. The G3 is more reliable, more accurate and needs much less babying to stay in service.>>65198139>FAL has>>modern ergos despite being much older than the G3Pretty irrelevant for conscripts who get used to their service rifle.>>folding stock optionSo does the G3.>>last round bolt hold openReally not a big deal.>>manual gas adjustment and You don't need gas adjustment on the G3 because it doesn't have a gas system, which is one of the reasons why it's more reliable.>better recoil impulseAbsolutely wrong. The G3s push instead of the FAL's punch is great, you just have to treat it like a wave and ride it out and the gun realigns itself for the next shot.>>lighter than the G3 despite having a longer barrelThe HK G3 is generally slightly lighter than the FAL.>>don’t have to remove the buttstock just to clean itThat's not just a retarded point, but you don't really have to clean it anyway, it's a G3. It requires less cleaning than a FAL by a factor of about 50.>>works better with modern lights/lasers due to non-retarded charging handle placementNonsense.Why would you be so butthurt about a gun you've clearly never even touched?
>>65198139I don't clean the buffer on my G3 ever so I never take the stock off. The most I ever do is take out the 2 pins and clean the bolt assembly in an ultrasonic cleaner, then lube it and reassemble but even that isn't necessary, the gun can get filthy as a rat in a trash can and still work perfectly fine.
>>65198145>G3 is more reliable because no gas systemThe FAL has a user-adjustable short-stroke piston mechanism, which is what most gucci modern semi-auto rifles are using today.>ergos are irrelevant because muh conscriptsI accept your concession.
>>65198161>The FAL has a user-adjustable short-stroke piston mechanism, which is what most gucci modern semi-auto rifles are using today.That's not an argument in your favour, anon. The G3 is way more reliable than the FAL and it's not even close. That's why Africans somehow still run around with working examples today while their FALs rotted to shit decades ago.>I accept your concession.Noguns confirmed.
>>65198254Ancient FALs are still being used in Africa and South America today, so idk what you’re talking about here. If the G3 delayed blowback system was truly better then it would still be in widespread use today. Piston guns won.
>>65198259>If the G3 delayed blowback system was truly better then it would still be in widespread use todayIt is. The MP5 is the most popular SMG in the world
>>65197218
>>65198259>Ancient FALs are still being used in Africa and South America today, so idk what you’re talking about here.Anywhere near the number of G3s, anon?>If the G3 delayed blowback system was truly better then it would still be in widespread use today.The world unified around the American system and it wasn't much further developed, but you're moving the goalpost because you've already lost. This isn't about the question which system is better, but which gun is better.And the G3 is much better than the FAL.
>>65198264Yeah so, like I said, it’s only good once you shrink it down to 9mm. The MP5 is so widespread because most of them were bought decades ago, and government agencies never bother replacing them because 9mm SMGs are going the way of the dodo, and the existing ones last pretty much forever due to being overbuilt for 9mm anyway.>>65198268Nigger do you really think I know off the top of my head if there are more FALs or G3s in circulation in Africa of all places? If there actually are more G3s, then it’s because its primary appeal was that it was a cheaper alternative to the FAL. And yes the FAL is the better rifle unless you seriously take the position that it having the absolute most horrendous ergos of any modern rifle doesn’t actually matter.
>>65198313>Nigger do you really think I know off the top of my head if there are more FALs or G3s in circulation in Africa of all places?I do, it's G3s, hence why there are so many pics of negroes using it but none of FALs.>then it’s because its primary appeal was that it was a cheaper alternative to the FALNope.You also seem both really focused and really confused about the price difference.>And yes the FAL is the better rifle unless you seriously take the position that it having the absolute most horrendous ergos of any modern rifle doesn’t actually matter.As it's worse in literally any other regard and the ergos aren't amazing either, it obviously isn't the better rifle.And you obviously haven't shot either.
>>65198320>the G3 is better because I’ve seen more pics of jiggaboos straight out of the jungle using themHere anon, you dropped this.
>>65198313>Nigger do you really think I know off the top of my head if there are more FALs or G3s in circulation in Africa of all places? If there actually are more G3s, then it’s because its primary appeal was that it was a cheaper alternative to the FAL. And yes the FAL is the better rifle unless you seriously take the position that it having the absolute most horrendous ergos of any modern rifle doesn’t actually matter.>>65198320>I do, it's G3s, hence why there are so many pics of negroes using it but none of FALs.Does the Africa argument even matter? the AK is far more present among the conscripts there than either battle rifle. I think a better argument would be comparing how many first world countries still have either in service in a limited capacity
>>65198320>I do, it's G3s, hence why there are so many pics of negroes using it but none of FALs.
>>65198330If a gun can be used by literal niggers for half a century with no real maintenance and still work, it's a very reliable gun.>>65198331>Does the Africa argument even matter? the AK is far more present among the conscripts there than either battle rifle.The AK gets fresh batches sent there all the time, it's not about popularity but persistence, anon.>I think a better argument would be comparing how many first world countries still have either in service in a limited capacityThe G3 easily wins there but there could be many reasons for that.>>65198332Anon, that picture is decades old. The civil war started in 91 and even back then G3s outnumbered FALs massively. It's 2026.
>>65198339According to this logic, the nugget is the greatest rifle of all time.
>>65198341Only if you're a massive retard who thinks it's a general point and not a direct comparison of reliability between 2 rifles.Also, no. The nugget was an unreliable piece of shit at all times.
>>65197218There are no left handed people in the right world.
>>65197218holding the erect, veiny penis of the free world.
>>65197218FAMAS, idiot.
>>65197942Why would you put that atrocious brace on there
>>65198441Not him but that’s a Spuhr stock which is one of the gucciest stocks for the G3.
>>65198441Neither the G3 nor the FAL can take optics properly with the OEM stock. You have to get a 3rd party stock to get a good cheek weld.
>>65199053No idea about G3s, but I used to own an SA58 w/EOtech and it felt fairly comfortable to use.
>>65199053I don't agree regarding the FAL, sure it's not the most comfortable but the sightline isn't all that high
>>65199301>>65199313I may just be using different optics with tighter focal distances. You definitely are not mounting a 10x scope to either rifle without higher cheek rest of some sort, but a red dot sight is probably fine.
>>65199320Idk I had a 3-9x scope on mine for a bit, worked ok
>>65198351I was hoping someone other than me remembered.
>>65197796Starvation
>>65199053FAL is manageable with the standard stock. With low'ish mounts it ends up being somewhere near 3" above bore, chin weld similar to tall AR mounts which a lot of folk like using these days. With 1x optics, it's a very workable heads-up shooting posture.
>>65197218"She's a lady!"
>>65199545FALs have like 1000 different "standard" stock patterns
>>65199560All of the fixed stocks I've used on various FAL variants have been in the same general neighborhood of cheek height.
>>65198121>>65198139In regards to the G3 vs FAL debate in the thread:When South Africa was still using battle rifles, they bought FALs specifically for white soldiers and modified G3s for black soldiers. (Picrel)If a racist state is picking the FAL for their preferred race it stands to reason that the FAL is better
>>65199617and how well is South Africa doing now?
>>65199740They picked the Galil and imploded
>>65199943many such cases
>>65199943>picked the GalilWho would willingly do such a thing?
>>65200059To be fair it was pretty much their only option at the time. The only state that wasn’t hostile to South Africa after Rhodesia fell was Israel
>>65200081Deservedly so.
Am I the only one that likes the FAL and the G3? They’re both comfy and remind me of dead communists, floppies, and argies.
I just bought four surplus South African FAL mags from Frontier Armory even though I don’t own a FAL yet. This is probably the most evil thing I’ve ever done as a gun hobbyist.
>>65197218Something American and entirely prolific within military arms. Either Ma Deuce, the M1911 or the M4/M16 and its derivatives. Britain is the right arm because they began the dance, America is the left arm because they continued it.
>>651972181911
>>65199617>When South Africa was still using battle rifles, they bought FALs specifically for white soldiers and modified G3s for black soldiers.Wasn't that because the G3 was thought as more idiot-proof? At least i heard several opinions stating it, along with that it was a bit worse ergonomics wise which would explain why they chose FAL's for themselves
>>65197225This.
>>65197225>>65202470>magazine disconnect
