https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tOmaEXju7HU&pp=ygUOOSBob2xlIHJldmlld3PSBwkJIwsBhyohjO8%3DIt’s official guys, according to Asian Garand Thumb AKs in the US market are DEAD because ammo is AK ammo is .56c per round [surprise emoji here]. It’s time to goysume more H&K products for 5k, turkshit HK roller-delayed trash from center arms for 2k and precision rifles in obscure wildcat carriages because amerimutt gunsoomer brainless think that grandpas 10k bench rifle is new (((meta))) for SHIFT/Boog despite the fact that we live in the age of drones and both the USMC and Ukrainian 3rd Army core have both cut their sniper units because FPVs and loitering munitions are now so effective against long-range infantry targets.
OP is a faggot
The boom of AKs, pun intended, and many other foreign rifles in the US ended when the cheap ammo dried up but there will always be a market.I don't much care what asian thumb says. He's a slop producer like most of the rest of guntube.
I'm really sick of wojaks. Was it ever this bad? They've outlasted the peak of ragefaces several times over now while having less and less variation. Do people not get bored of this shit? Or am I just a no rizz unc ohio emojispam?
>>65200805>thing is expensivewtf isn't these days
>>65200805AK bros be like:>AKs are so simple they can be made in a garage! While also being like:>american AKs suck and actually making AKs is super hard and that’s why nobody in America makes a good one. Or maybe, just maybe, it’s a shit platform and that’s why it’s so hard to make them? I mean US makers don’t have any issues making any other high-quality firearms, why are AKs so hard? Because they’re overly complicated in their construction due to being an stamped-steel construction (whitch was a notorious nightmare to get production running and why early guns had milled receivers and why Arsenal Bulgaria ultimately cut their stamped receivers line) this was done before Soviets were fucking cheap and that’s literally the only reason. Stamped steel is probably the WORST material to make firearms receiver out of because over time it will wear out and warp sooner than milled/forged/machined metal. The ONLY reason they were popular is because they were cheap once upon a time. Real shooters don’t and never have used the AK platform. You know how I know someone isn’t a serious shooter? When they say: “I’m an AK guy.” You might as well just say: “I like guns but don’t shoot much/at all.”
>>65200836We live in the age of everything and nothing all at once.
>>65200853Ha! I watched a video awhile back called "why your AK went down at kalash bash" or some such shit. I've never owned an AK because I think they're ugly but I watched the video to have more ammo against AK guys. I truly had no idea how bad AKs are. You can't even swap components like the piston without potentially bricking the gun. hahahahahahahahahahahaha!
>>65200889Competition fags have this gay compulsion to under gas their guns and they run into issues when they attempt to do it on AKs because unlike ARs the Ak requires thousands of $ worth of tools to install an adjustable gas block thus comp fags do half measure shit like adjustable pistons and fuck with the recoil springs or Dremel their FCG to get it lighter
>>65200916>harbor freight press $150>population and depopulation jig from rforbus $80>set of punches every gun owner should own anyway $40but imo factory gas is fine, competitionfags need to stop being a pussy
>>65200916Any comp guy with an AK is going to have the KNS adjustable piston. Your information is out of date.
>>65200999yeah, and they're for fags
>wojak in the thumbnailI shan't be clicking
>>65201026No argument from me. AKs and Mosins aren't fun when you actually have to pay for ammo now. That's why so many are going 5.56, but that's just kind of lame.
>>65200880indeed, i call it schrodinger's faggotry.
>Get 5.56 AK>Don't worry about this shit
>>65201071>>65201362I don’t get this bitching about the price of ammo bullshit, I mean 300 blackout is the same fucking price as 7.62x39 and 5.45x39mm and I’ve literally never heard anyone complain about the price of 300 blackout while they shoot cans and cans and cans of the stuff at the range. Same thing with 6.5 Grendel and 6.8 SPC a few years ago when those calibers were popular and abundant, people shoot the fuck out of those and never bitch about the price. I mean for fucks sake green tip was $2.00 a round in 2022, did everyone say AR were obsolete and out of the meta then? No they didn’t. Here’s my advice to anyone bitching about the price of ammo: go by an airsoft gun, no I’m serious you can shoot like 10,000 bbs for like 18 bucks. Clearly this is what you need cause you’re too fucking poor to shoot real ammo.
>>65201519>I’ve literally never heard anyone complain about the price of 300 blackoutLmfao
>>65201532Dead serious bud, then again I also don’t hang out with broke losers.
>>65200805
>>65201519>recs airshit>not .22Noguns
>>65201597>he doesn’t remember the .22lr shortage of 2014 and 2020 to 2023 Literal child.
>>65201599>B-but back in the day-Stfu.Post the nice guns you totally own.
>>65201519300 Blackout was never as low as 20 cents per round like 7.62x39 and 5.45x39 were for cheap, range ammo. There probably wasn't a big overlap and still isn't between people buying 300 Blackout and the people who were buying cheap Russian ammo either. If 300 Blackout tripled in price over several years then there definitely would be people bitching about it.>green tip was $2.00 a round in 2022, did everyone say AR were obsolete and out of the meta then? No they didn’t.Apples and oranges comparison. That was a surge in price due to Covid era panic buying. Slavshit calibers got sanctioned to hell and now we're seeing the effects of the reduced supply with no other manufactures filling in.
>>65200853Sorry bro but this is cope. You can put as many mags as it takes to literally melt the barrel and set the wood furniture on fire through an AK, and not have it jam. You can put it in seawater, pondwater, bury it in mud, or freeze it in a block of ice for 100 days and it will still fire first try, without even swapping out the ammo in the mag for new ones half the time. It just works. Compare that to the best that the US has come up with, ARs still jam all the time, needs lube and not to store it in mud, just to fire brand new rounds that aren't as powerful as 7.62x39. If the AR15 is simpler and cheaper than the AK, why does it not work anywhere near as often as the AK, and why is the AR only the choice of Americans rather than the choice of anyone who has to live in combat zones for extended periods with zero upkeep? Africans maintain AK47s for fuck sake.
>>65201519>I’ve literally never heard anyone complain about the price of 300 blackout while they shoot cans and cans and cans of the stuff at the rangeyeah retard, because reloading is practically a given for us and one of the first things we learn after sourcing a good supplier of bullets is how to consistently resize 5.56 brass. after all of that and more we can get it down to 5.56 factory prices and we know it'd cost practically double that if we bought it new, so we don't bitch. dumbass.
>>65200805>no gratuitous shot of Henry's ass as he climbs the stairs to the shooting platformFucking gay
>phoneposting noguns nigger>>65200825FPBP
>>65201602Here faggot. Now post yours. >>65201611My point is the prices could be surging due to lack of ammo for these calibers, for a long time there wasn’t anything coming in and now we’ve got telaammo picking up the slack. It’s going to be slow because modern American manufacturing sucks ass and is expensive but once this war in Ukraine ends (maybe in the next 10 years or so) we will probably see an influx of ammunition from former Soviet countries again. Now if we get a total ban of imported ammo then yes, we are fucked, but people live in the moment and are retarded, I saw this same sort of doomposting back in 2020-2023 and in hindsight it was dumb, this could very well be the same thing. People here were convinced ammo would NEVER recover from Covid, at one point I dare say it was the popular opinion. If I had the time and desire I would dig up some old posts from /k/ to show you how tunnel vision people get about shit.
>>65201643>namefag and tripfagEven bigger nigger lol
>>65201668oh noes you showed me!kys or buy an ad you phoneposting faggot
>>65201668i forgot, your newfag is showing since you don't know the fucking difference
>>65201677You first fucktard.
Buy an ad faggot
>>65201620Melt the steel? Holy shit you're a piece of work.Maybe you should look up the videos on the forgotten weapons channel whete he tested your mud claim on and AK and on an AR, causing endless seething from people like you.
>>65200853US makers have a hard time making FALs and G3s too, and the argument against the AK here is ridiculous. The fucking Serbs right now make their own knock off AK that can run longer and harder than any AR without malfunctions. Almost everyone is able to make these bulletproof rifles yet because these dogshit companies in the US, who struggle to make reliable ARs, also struggle to make good AKs that means the platform sucks? Can we be serious for a minute?
>>65201519Why are you arguing like a mental spastic?>>65201666>Fagpul'd M10 owner Ah, that would explain it.
>>65201726It has been a very long day, maybe I have been acting like a mental spastic. I apologize for being retarded. >Fagpul'd M10 ownerIt’s a WASR RH-10, I originally bought it to make an AK-15 look-alike with FAB defense polymer furniture, vaugly similar to pic related but with a different stock but that handguard kinda sucks so I went poorpul instead and haven’t regretted it since.
>>65201726>>65201766Found the picture on my old phone. This is how she looked about three years ago.
>>65201599that sucked...thanks obama bin laden. don't forget the walmart pistol cartridge shortagechkd
>>65201810Yeah that shit was bad bro. I lived in the middle of butfuck nowhere at the time and walmart was one of the only places that had ammo in sufficient quantity.
>>65201694Here's the video proving 100 days in each named condition results in a functioning AK: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m38-MQGWxb8And the video proving you can put as many mags through it as it takes to warp the steel and set the wood furniture on fire: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwSJiAwoMpY
>>65201666oh cool dude, you got one of those masturbation restraints for your gun
>>65201666Maybe you're right on a long enough time horizon. I'm not trying to doompost but, I don't expect things to get much better in the next few years. There doesn't seem to be a light at the end of the tunnel yet.Telaammo alone isn't bringing prices down. Even if they ramped up production, the importers here can keep Jewing us by charging current prices. All we've gotten from Poland so far is a batch of corrosive 7.62x39 that Atlantic Firearms imported. Romania and Bulgaria have given us nothing. PSA stopped producing 7.62x39 and quietly backed out of 5.45x39 before starting. I don't see other American manufacturers stepping in or making enough of a difference. There's still a huge void left by the lack of Russian ammo imports. It's not the recovery I was hoping for.>>65201766>>65201802Here's my RH-10. It started out with black polymer furniture before I started experimenting around.
>>65200853>I mean US makers don’t have any issues making any other high-quality firearms, why are AKs so hard?Because the AK is not worth spending a lot of money on making, it's an old obsolete hunk of shit, so if you don't have the old combloc tooling for making the things, it's gonna cost too much to be profitable to tool up to build proper stamped AKs.Milled AKs also cost money, so the fly by night ventures looking to take that easier route try to take a cheaper and easier shortcut by casting, but forged and cast don't exactly interchange 1 to 1 in all aspects. SOMETIMES they do, but often not, and certainly not for things like AK receivers, bolts, or trunnions.This is why RAS47, C39, and IO (more like UXO) rifles are like they are, done with all the shitty shortcuts they can imagine.>>65201699Zastava was a state funded venture under the Yugoslavian government, hence they could spend the money to reverse engineer Soviet AKs and develop their own production lines, which was done under Tito about 60 years ago, with modern Zastava in Serbia inheriting all of that shit.For G3s, PTR does a good job making theirs, and that's because they were able to score the original H&K tooling after Portugal sold it off a long time back, so they didn't have to reverse engineer any of that or build all of those machines and dies. For American companies who didn't do that, like Federated Arms, they chose to make cast steel or aluminum receivers once they couldn't get anymore stamped G3 or CETME flats to finish, and the quality of this shows (the aluminum receiver FA91s seriously just had the trunnions glued into there, since welding wasn't an option).Century Arms does not have any old government funded tooling to use, all they have is their legion of alcoholic monkeys.
>>65200853The AK is an aight gun. American made AKs suck because the market is and always will be niche compared to the AR, and so it's not economically viable to invest large sums of money into a high quality manufacturing line.Foreign manufacturers don't suffer this problem because they make a bank through government contracts
>>65202213> Foreign manufacturers don't suffer this problem because they make a bank through government contractsMostly, it’s actually that they bought the production line and the equipment from the USSR decades ago as subsidized “buying a friend” prices. There haven’t been much in the way of lucrative AK contracts anywhere for 20 years or so. Any new commercial operation not buying someone else’s existing AK manufacturing tooling and poaching their workforce would still probably end up making garbage for 3-5 years (minimum, possibly indefinitely) while they figure it out.
>>65201810Even around the Detroit area I couldn't find jack shit. Wallyworld, sporting goods stores, bass pro, cabellas, etc...NOBODY had ANY ammo. Except .40...which is when I got into .40.
>>65202213>Foreign manufacturers don't suffer this problem because they make a bank through government contractsMost of the technical data, tooling, and facilities, etc, were also developed and built 60-70 years ago, and paid for by a government (one which tended to go bankrupt and then sold this shit off privately once Communism inevitably failed), and that means it's already there and can be used, maintained, and iterated on, which is why they can make big savings on it.Those circumstances just don't exist in the U.S, you wanna make good AKM style rifles there, stamped and all (or just even more oldschool milled receivers), then it's going to cost you a lot, you would have to create and provide a lot of that from the ground up.The AR15, meanwhile, can have its receivers milled from aluminum billets in a generic CNC machine, which there's probably millions of all around the country, so even a small company or single man shop could produce their own if they wanted to, and that's why they do, and they don't have to suck, like Century's handbomb AKs.
>>65200805AK without its full-auto is just an inaccurate rifle.
>>65203057First shot always hits exactly where your cursor is and the spray pattern while fairly large is also very regular/predictable. Then again I haven't played in a decade, maybe it's been nerfed.
>>65201620I can't believe AKtards still run with this when there are many, many objective comparisons that show the AR is the more reliable platform, by a lot. I don't even like ARs either (bullpupfag) but AKs are conclusively worse.
>>65203063I think there's a randomization to the first shot in CS2 that wasn't there in previous iterations. It's still close enough for government work, but 100% accuracy no longer guaranteed.
>>65201875>>65203071The first channel has the exact same 100 days durability/jam test with the AR15. Didn't work
>>65203071ARs can't 1tap through helmet and the skin selection is vastly inferior imo>>65203075Sad to hear, what the fuck is the devs' problem.
>>65201849oops, replied to myself instead of you anon.>>65202867
He's so annoying to listen to, he way over annunciates every word. Plus it seemed to be getting less and less serious and more about attracting normie gunbros
