I recall reading about a study that it takes roughly 60 days to train a reserve unit (so not civilians, but reservists) to have them be on par with regulars. I cannot find the study, however. Does anyone know if this is really the case, and if the DoD ever investigated it? I assume they would have.
>>65206018Seems like a lot of variables there but the basic math checks out considering how long BCT and AIT are.
Not 60 days, but;https://www.rand.org/pubs/monograph_reports/MR124.html
>>65206018Reserves are complicated. They usually pool guys that have skills outside the military that can translate surprisingly well into certain situations. I’ve met motorpool mechanics that were mouth breathing retards and reservists that were mechanics by trade that could fix anything. Superimpose that onto a standard infantry company and you are going to have guys that have no clue what they’re doing but by sheer requirement of actually having to survive on their own without the government teat are likely going to be above average in trainability compared to active units that struggle to get rid of shitbags. So basically it’s going to depend on the job and what reserve unit we’re talking about. A bunch of weekend warriors that are largely cops and construction workers during the week can probably catch up real quick to an infantry or MP unit. A bunch of dudes that sell used Hyundais and work at CVS? Not so much.
>>65206123I seem to recall a story that I read here, where an army unit was tasked with holding a city in Iraq and was met with heavy resistance from the locals. Then they were relieved by a NG unit and the city became cooperative almost immediately. The difference being that older guys with some life experience, regular jobs and families of their own were better at wrangling civilians than 19yo kids with more testosterone than brain cells, whose first course of action was to kick doors and crack skulls first and ask questions laterGranted, it was a post on /k/ so there's a good chance it was entirely fictional
>>65206018I wouldn't be surprised if it was faster. Traditionally, standing armies were never maintained in numbers that would be needed if a full scale war broke out exactly because infantry isn't actually that hard to get to tolerable levels of competence. So 60 days for people that have already been trained to my laymen ears seems honestly reasonable it not a bit much.
>>65206018Sounds about right for onboarding a job and the grace period for firing.
>>65206174I mean the 77th ID in WW2 famously had a guy that worked the for the phone company wire tap opfor comms during a training exercise and dropped notional artillery on their position.
>>65206018You can train a civilian in 60 days be a basic infantry, further training length depends on trade. Reservists really should be good to go pretty quick if you have a well funded military. The vast majority of the time spent in the reg force is just sitting around doing nothing, especially so in the combat Arms. Reservists are just actually working during the time in between training.
>>65206018Is that dog dead?
>>65206018Is this from the Ann Arbor natural history museum?
>>65206050>>6520601860-90 days seems about right to get to the lowest possible point of mission readiness for a regular unit, ie the starting point for collective training to be deployable.
>>65206647Royal Tyrrell Museum of Palaeontology
>>65206174it always baffles me to think that NG sees way more deployment action than AD, why the hell is that?
>>65206018I'm a reserves officer in my cuntry. I got my commission by joining our ROTC equivalent in uni. Most reserves in my country are officers while the official militia are the "reserves grunts". It took 3 years to earn my commission. I am attached to the CBRN unit due to the nature of my degree and work.
>>65206831How's the quality compared to AD? Also what cunt are you in (or region in general, if it's European)
>>65206018How does a dinosaur end up like that? Is this AI?
>>65206174No it's real. The 1st Batallion of 124th infantry regiment out of Florida, part of the 53rd IBCT. They deployed to Ramadi in August of 2003. Didn't lose a single soldier on that deployment. Many credited the fact they were manned with police and firefighters for their ability to manage the situation well.
>>65206123>sheer requirement of actually having to survive on their own without the government teat are likely going to be above average in trainability>cops... during the week can probably catch up real quick to an infantry... unit
>>65206018Look at that fuckin thing bro
>>65206123When it comes to Reservists, it eeally depends on the unit, but generally the guys on the top have spent years cutring their teeth on the hardest shit imaginable and now take the easy path of wrangling weekend warriors. The real struggle more than anything is just finding the time and funding to get in the real training, not just the shit everybody needs to maintain the current minimum that lets you do shit in field. Whicb is the 2-3 month onboarding pre deployment phase where you cram all the training, med, inspections, and prep needed to get a unit deployable.>>6520630211B combined with Basic is 23 weeks, might soon be 24+ way things are going.>>65206174Its life experience combined with afore mentioned leadership, and the fact that units stick together for a while. Regular Army guys are cycled out every 2 years like clockwork, NG and Reserves, you can easily spend 3-5+ years in a unit so long as you're not an AGR Officer where you're still expected to play the dumb fucking promotion game. This leads to Joes learning from real shit NCOs, and sections developing strong bonds, with good inter unit communication skills.Now, does LSCO threaten to throw all that good shit out the window, absolutely. However, I firmly believe the greatest threat isn't the enemy here, its one again, budget and big Army incompetence as the Army is dragging its feet on adopting next gen gear troops will have no experience dealing with, nor will they have, up until its 6 months too late.
