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just dont invade your neighbor and dont be a dictator.
its that easy.

>>65206996
>hits the dirt
>hits the asphalt
>cuts away without any damage to the chopper
It's a stationary helicopter the size of a tandem semi why are goat fuckers so bad at this.

>>65206996
>that fuel spill
For fucks sake, all they had to do was to drop another grande.

Man it really seems like the days of first world countries putting boots on the ground in the third world are over. I can't even imagine the public reaction here to a bunch of GIs getting droned and bleeding out on camera.

>>65207029
Fury and calls for retribution. You have no idea how good the thirdies have had it with the ROE so far.

>>65207018
israel isn't dictatorship and was invaded first but they are getting droned anyway

>>65206996
>tiny grenade goes off 20+ feet away
>the techs and planes are leaking like crazy

huh?

>>65206996
>still using 'nade droppers in 2026
Their hearts are in the right place but they've got a lot to learn.

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>>65207033
shrapnel do be like that

>Russians droned in Ukraine
>Russians droned in Africa
>Russians droned in Russia
Life's great!

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>>65207032
>israel isn't dictatorship
putin isnt a dictator either, he just holds all the power in russia.
and the evil hohol nazis were hiting donbass or whatever, thats why he has to launch missile on ukranian civilians.

>>65206996
I heccin love science and hate Putler, seeing this makes me so frigging happy

>>65207043
i don't like bibi either but i wouldn't go as far to simp for iran and iran's closest ally, russia, just for that reason.

>>65207031
I thought this was the new un-woke non-dei hegseth department of war unrestrained non-pussy both hands not tied behind our backs manly men fighting style.

>>65207050
Hegseth's a moron and doesn't know what he's doing, nor does his boss.
You think that Japan being firebombed and then nuked was an accident?

>>65206996
lol
lmao even

>>65206996
It's only time when they'll get proper fpv's and white people's military dominance will be over

>>65207047
>iran's closest ally
>Unlike many Western countries, Israel has maintained relations with the Kremlin, refused to impose sanctions against Russia, and rejected calls to send military aid to Ukraine
>While Russia condemned Israeli and American attacks on Iran in 2025 and 2026, it did not send military aid to Iran during the Twelve-Day War
>In December 2019, Israel revealed it had an agreement with Russia not to sell arms to Ukraine and Georgia, in exchange for Russia refraining from selling arms to Iran.
>Russia continued to be Israel's biggest supplier of fuel and one of its biggest suppliers of crude oil during the Gaza war from 2023 to 2025
you get the idea

>>65207059
They did give them satellite pictures of US bases in the region.

>>65207060
Yup, it's an open secret that Russians gave Iranians satellite pics of US bases.

>>65207060
That's because there's no downside. The ziggers in US admin don't care, neither does Israel.

>>65207059
did you just unironically used
>Russia condemned
as if that had any weight?
>it did not send military aid to Iran during the Twelve-Day War
yeah, just helped with targeting sensitive and valuable assets. but, that's just what neutral countries do, doesn't make them allies obviously.
meanwhile, israel sending patriot to ukraine, something that's essentially the most valuable weapon anyone can send to them, is actually them helping russia all along. the sneaky jews always playing 50d chess that us mortals can't understand

>>65207060
from what ive read it was the chinese that sent iran intelligence from satelites and their large radar ship, and sent some weapon shipment.
also israel has an history of selling drones to russia, and israeli drones have been used by russia in ukraien

Hold on are those L-39 Albatross trainers geared for war? They really are running a cheap operation in there aren't they kek

>>65207066
>a-akhually the shaheeds were nothing compared to smuggled israeli drone all along. see? it's israel who is allied to russia, not iran!
at least don't pretend to be pro-ukraine if you hate israel more

>>65207064
>israel sending patriot to ukraine
never heard of this, got a link
>>65207072
i didnt say iran didnt suply russia with drones, but israel does have a history of relations with them.
dont put words in my mouth for Gods sake

>>65207060
Interesting how they didn't give Iranians Israeli base intel lol
It's almost like 20-30% of Israelis are Russians

>>65207075
>never heard of this, got a link
https://www.euractiv.com/news/ukraine-received-patriot-system-from-israel/

>>65207082
thanks

>>65207079
>It's almost like 20-30% of Israelis are Russians
That just means they're going to invade Israel next.

>>65207032
>israel isn't dictatorship
In all honesty this might be where its headed, I just don't see bibi choosing to roll over and let the courts have him once the time comes for him to give up power

>>65207053
Every single belligerent side in WW2 attempted massive bombing campaigns against civilian targets to the best of their ability.

>>65207040
neat vid

>thread about russians getting droned
>immediately dissolves into DA JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOZ
Business as usual.

>>65207028
My first thought

>>65207024
>cuts away without any damage to the chopper
That you can see

>>65207102
it's thirdy hours

>>65206996
Well they aren't dropping VOGs, the guy at the tail of the plane ate shit at 12+ meters. My best guess would be 60mm mortars.

>>65207028
>>65207103
Kek, same.
Right plane is probably fucked anyway but the left might be repairable.

>>65207032
Israel invaded both Lebanon and Palestine wtf are you talking about. Likud is only in power due to very sketch uses of executive power focused on bibi avoiding the 20+ felony corruption charges he is facing... sounds pretty much like a dictatorship

>>65207029
First, russya is not "first" worlder at all.

>>65207064
>>65207075

You haven't heard of it because it's a disingenuous claim. Israel hasn't sent shit. It was a US owned system forward staged in Israel, not an Israeli patriot.

>>65207090
And yet you seem certain that won't happen again.

>>65207040
perfect visualization, good find

Netanyahu also has weekly calls with monke and gave strong endorsement to orban. All of these fully developed mafia-oligarchies, like pozzia and china, and proto versions, like israel and US, are in the same bed

>>65207123
Because there's literally no point to bombard some neighborhood to kill kids if you can spend the bomb on a factory or a military installation/equipment. It's fucking wasteful to spend munitions on civilians. If allies had modern targeting and CEPs in WW2, they probably would have not bombed random neighborhoods because military and manufacturing value was everywhere else.

>>65207102
You're noticing too much.

>>65206996
kek. The Russian air base looks exactly like from MGSV Phantom Pain.

It’s crazy how every time we see Russians get droned it results in crazy bad losses for them, but anons will try to say the US and Israel are getting fucked equally hard when they aren’t even remotely comparable.

>>65207163
winning hard, lil chuggy?

>>65207159
neat, it does

>>65207047
>uh, if you don't like kikes you simp for sandniggers
There are many reasons to hate both. Kikes are responsible for shit getting more expensive

>>65207171
I'll have you know the mighty Puccia advanced and took 14 whole square kilometers of Ukraine last month.

>>65207160
The US and Israel care about lives lost, so that's why. Meanwhile a thirdie will laugh in your face after losing both arms and both legs because you didn't anally rape him and kill him.

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>>65207160
russia has lost some 300k+ dead, and a million other casualties.
ofc its not gonna be as bad.
>>65207163
they are preparing for another counter offensive to retake more land, so russia sure as hell is losing more land.
>>65207160
but the morale in israel absolutely got rocked by drones.

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>>65207163
Well, given that russia has captured less than 40km this year and ukraine has captured 280, with every other disparity getting even wider, yes I'd say ukraine is now winning by literally every metric

Oh and putin is now crying to the UN about attacks on military training facilities, can't forget that moment of desperation

>>65207186
That's little over 5 square miles.

>>65207123
I think the global population has much less appetite for mass conscription warfare than the WW2 era. The imprecision of early bombing required saturation. A lot of pragmatic soul-searching afterwards concluded the traditional bombing did little to lessen belligerent resolve and remove fighting capacity, at least relative to cost. Of course nukes lets you win easy at the cost of salted Earth, but luckily nobody has been crazy enough to break that NAP. The only thing that would motivate WW1/2 kind of fighting would be environmental collapse leading to escalating resource wars, but starved bums don't have much fight in them and there's no point in nuking the stuff you want to loot. You don't get big, cool world wars with a globalized population pacified by cheap technoloy. The future of war between advanced nations might look a lot like the distance bombing between Ukraine and Russia, and what's going on in Iran. Lobbing remote explosives with hopes to exhaust/destroy enemy interception and destroy the infrastructure they're using to lob drone shit at you. People will be conscripted to future-Shasneed factories rather than frontlines. We could be at the point where technology starts changing the game faster and faster though and weird Star Trek shit nobody could predict will start happening and everything will then result from those disruptions.

>>65207032
i feel like the statute of limitations applies to judea
problem is all parties involved believe these tribal conflicts are eternal because someone wrote in a book that god said it

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>>65207199
overdoing it anon, the bait became much too obvious. Should've said something like
>ukraine takes back a bit of ukraine, russia takes even more of ukraine, problem piggy?
or something like that. Gotta mimic the one-track vatnig mind, you know?

>>65207199
except ukraine does not need new land to win the war, it merely needs to recapture, you disingenuous zigger dipshit.

>>65207163
There's no winning when you're dragged into a fight you didn't ask for, even shooting a mugger costs yourself a bullet's worth of value. Ukraine has no need or desire to loot trucks full of washing machines from Russia. But they certainly haven't lost, and Russia most very certainly hasn't won anything yet. It'll be decades before the regions being fought over will be able to yield any true value to whoever owns them, so it's just going to come down to who has what when it's actually all said and done. If Kherson can be Russian forever, why not Crimea? Maybe Belgorod can be Russian forever too!

>>65207204
Yeah pretty much. "Muh 1940s borders" like nigger really who gives a shit, your great grandparents started 3 or 4 wars over those borders and lost all of them, tough shit

>>65207118
palestine invaded first
yes, they did invade lebanon because hezbollah joined palestine in the war through rocket barrages. just because your side is losing doesn't mean enemy can't enter your territory

>>65207225
I really don't get the mindset of people who get their panties in a twist over Lebanon. Like, they're firing rockets at civilian targets over the border nonstop, literally months after the Lebanese army said they were finished disarming them. Leftists and thirdies act like Israel was going to invade anyway, but why would they? Egyptians and Jordanians don't tolerate random militias firing rockets into Israel from their borders and, shockingly, Israel hasn't invaded either of those countries.

>>65207202
>The future of war between advanced nations might look a lot like the distance bombing between Ukraine and Russia, and what's going on in Iran.
Absolutely not. What those wars have in common is that they are wars of choice for the larger power and wars of necessity for the smaller one. If the Ukraine and Iran could lay waste to vast swathes of Russia or the US to cripple their ability to project power (which are a proxy for the war aims forces on the Ukraine and Iran), then they would. Conversely the US and Russia do not because it either can't gain them what they want or it would cost them more than their war goals are worth to them anyway. Large conventional world wars arose from the circumstance of belligerents on both sides with both the means to wage the kind of war you pine for, and the belief that they were in wars of necessity that required that those means be employed. If that circumstance arose again, then the outcomes would be similar.

>>65207199
i cant tell if this is an actual zigger or just an anon trying to troll.
are they realy this stupid

>>65207231
Your argument is full of holes, but the most important thing you overlook is that these future shasneeds will be the means of achieving the kind of devastation that will be effective. Russia and Ukraine obviously aren't able to attempt these things on the scale China or the U.S. could if they really set themselves to it. Precision targeting will become more precise, drones cheaper, and war will become more about efficiently decapitating capacity. Yes, if all the circumstances of WW2 arose again it could happen, but I just spelled out why they really won't. Nations that think they'll barrel through the warzone with a bunch of conscripts and tanks supported by a handful of billion dollar planes will be lost to a cloud of buzzing, biting flies.

FPV drones are the bane on undisciplined military forces and likely will lead to infantry becoming more elite over time as meatwaves become unviable for most countries when your enemy can reliably kill your guys for 500 dollars each instead of needing thousands of dollars in bullets or explosives per casualty.

>>65207204
as I understand it, official Islamic Doctrine is that any non muslim land conquered by Muslims becomes ancestral muslim land forever because God willed its conquest for his people, but any muslim land conquered by non muslims is still ancestral muslim land because it belonged to muslims before it was conquered

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>>65207257
>sandniggers when there are other sandniggers on their sand
>the sand was promised to them 500000 years ago

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>>65207266
>Look at these evil backwards savages
>Trying to fight off an alien invasion orchestrated by a cartel of perverted space criminals
>They need our civilization and immigrants

>>65207060
You should realise not everything is "enemy of enemy is my friend". Reality is just too complicated.

Controling militias in this modern warfare would be too costly. I don't think most countries can afford to provide direct help in this kinda situation. So how would insurgencies would play out in our current timeline?

>>65207272
nah it's because these savages won't chill the fuck out that only criminals and perverts can stomach living there

>>65206996
They can't get a break, can they?

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>>65206996
Surely not trained by Ukie operators right

The fragmentation pattern of vertical drop bombs minimizes waste, such as digging up the ground or flying into the air.

>>65207032
You are right and you are wrong.
TGD -> :)
TWJD -> :(
TLD -> :(
Hence them getting droned in frowny smile areas is not a problem (for me)

>ay blyaaaa))) wonderful safe posting in Africa))) only shooting niggers)) raping negros))) and looting gold)))
>*BZZZZZZ* *BOOM*
kek

>>65207032
Israel is a dictatorship and they are stirring shit in the region since they formed their country
it's only natural to get what you deserve at some point

>>65207038
Unless you have factories churning out FPVs grenade droppers are the most cost efficient + after they drop the payload they still act as recon

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>>65207199

>>65207038
Commercial / racing FPVs aren't designed to carry heavy payloads and it takes a lot of knowhow to select the right props, motors, ESCs etc. Without intel from Russia or Ukraine it'll take countries a while with trial and error to figure it out.
You can buy a DJI off the shelf that will carry a pretty good payload as they are designed to carry film cameras, LIDAR mappers etc. but they make terrible FPVs as the control firmware doesn't let you get close to crashing and drastically limits speed, bank angle & rate of descent.
Turning an off the shelf DJI into a dropper is the fastest / cheapest way to get into the drone warfare game today without any R&D or intel exchange.

>>65207368
They make hobbyist FPVs capable of lifting quite a bit of weight now. I think the issue like you said is more that unless you can throw your fresh drone pilots into a simulator for a week he's gonna crash it.

>>65207343
They work as a gimmick until the enemy gets drilled into looking for drones, then you shift over to FPVs. Once your enemy starts to look out for drones/carry shotguns or other anti drone devices these bumblebee tier drones are just free target practice.

>>65207393
Interesting, thanks anon I didn't know they were making FPVs specifically for payloads now.
I found this 10 inch with 3.5kg payload, 1.2ghz video, folding frame and 10km range. It's the perfect suicide drone and I suspect they are selling tens of thousands of them.
https://darwinfpv.com/products/darwinfpv-x10-large-load-and-long-range-10-fpv-drone

>>65207024
Yeah, I did feel a bit blueballed by that engagement. Were it the bum touching crests that helo would be gone, but I guess they have had much more practice.

>>65207405
Yep 10 inch FPVs are becoming the meta for smaller attacks with drones now. They go as fast as the smaller drones and carry more. Ukraine also has drones that can carry over 10kgs which means they can have a loitering quad equipped with a larger charge to drop or have an FPV drone with an RPG stored underneath ready to be unleashed on a target.

>>65207043
Is it that wrong to want all the banan? Is it that evil?

>>65207395
>Once your enemy starts to look out for drones/carry shotguns or other anti drone devices these bumblebee tier drones are just free target practice.
They seem to fly pretty high in this video, not sure if a shotgun would be helpful.

>>65207395
They are still effective in Ukraine and work in tandem with FPVs

>>65207024
You've been spoilt by just how easy the Ukrainians make it look. It's easy to forget that they are highly trained pilots. There's a reason why you also haven't seen as much of the bomber type drones (except for the large ones) for some time now.. furthermore, tese guys are dropping normal grenades from quite a high altitude compared to what you saw in Ukraine.

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That's clearly Close Combat Modern tactics footage.

>>65207246
>drones cheaper
>Trump’s sons are reselling $300 aliexpress fpv drones to the DOD at x1000 markup

>>65207411
if one monkey owns all banan other monkeys starve, and then they key the monkey and seize the trees of banan

>>65207568
So we're just making shit up now?

>>65207563
We really need a spiritual successor to CC with a modern engine (still 2D ofc).

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>>65207690
>and then they key the monkey

>>65207231
> Russia do not because it either can't gain them what they want or it would cost them more than their war goals are worth to them anyway
Lol, Russia doesn't do it because they can't. When they could lay waste to something to take it, they did. There's abundant evidence of this at Mariupol and Bakhmut and dozens of other Ukrainian towns.

>>65207730
Absolutely wild that there's people going around saying the "gloves are not off yet" in the fifth year of the 3 day SMO.

>>65207072
You do realize that Israel is more aligned with Russia thab Ukraine, right? It's a funny situation given the Iran/Rus alliance but I give you that. Remember when Israel bought grain from Russia that was stolen from Ukraine?

>>65206996
Ukraine videos have spoiled me, the aim of these guys is SHIT lmao
Still, more dead ziggers is always a good thing.

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why weren't the french getting droned like this when they were still in mali?

>>65207776
The whole french doctrine in Africa is being super mobile.

>>65207776
France pulled out of Mali in 2022, DIY drone warfare was in diapers back then.
There were some early pioneers using VOGs in Syria but few and far between and with crappy efficiency.

>>65207059
>, in exchange for Russia refraining from selling arms to Iran
how did that work out?

>>65208024
>muh nakbha
yes, you think jews got a bit too much land in international agreement so you tried to genocide them and it didn't work out, and now you regret your decision and play victim. it's funny how arabs and russians behave in the exact same way the moment they start losing.
imagine if germany started to fire unguided rockets into warsaw with justification that they are actually being occupied and they are entitled to 1914 borders

Regardless of the damage caused, the drone drops effectively suppressed the crew getting the helicopter ready and prevented it from being used.
Attack helicopters and gunships have always been the bane of insurgents (exception when provided with expensive manpads by a wealthy third party), now they can deter their use with cheap easily available drones.

Do you think Ukies were involved?

>>65208057
bodied that freak

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>>65207225
>palestine invaded first

Yeah, I remember those Palestinian Panzer divisions and mech infantry backed by towed artillery.

Man those Malinese desert ragheads sure have some good drones and pilots! ...Some of them are really pale looking though

>>65208209
just because you're goatfucker mentally stuck in 9th century supplied with AK and a paraglider doesn't mean that crossing borders to attack your neighbor doesn't constitute an invasion. russia is still invading and it doesn't matter they are now using donkey carts instead of tanks.

>>65208200
>>65208209
uhoh stinky
>inb4 shitalian spams bbc and bestiality porn again

This happened around Mopti and Sévaré during the massive attacks around the 25th of April this year.

Russian telegram channels were gushing with how well they did here (White Uncles in Africa and a couple others). I guess since they were too slow to get support off the ground (a failure in itself). They took keeping the airport in Mopti from falling as a win

Ayo, what dat Budanov doin?

>>65208209
>mass shootings in another are not invasions
Okay, I guess Israel isn't invading either, and is simply conducting a mass shooting in another country.
is not invasion nafo pig
where are the proofs of invasion?

>>65207031
ROE aren't in place for the sake of the thirdies, r-tard.

>>65208276
Earning his weapons and intel graciously donated by france
Just send a couple SOF boys on an African safari hosted by the DGSE and the funding continues

>>65207050
Hegseth's sole priority is political optics in the press and on social media. We have seen, multiple times now, that he is willing to cause major damage to the US military for the sake of those optics. ROE, as pointed out by this anon >>65208284 have nothing to do with humanitarianism and everything to do with pandering to domestic journalists. Under Hegseth they're only going to get worse, if by some miracle he isn't fired and we get a ground invasion going.

>>65208303
Hegseth just feels like a total overcorrection from the "I have two moms" and Admiral Hon era of the military

>>65208308
(Nta) When this impotent seething is all you can respond with, it's probably better to just not respond at all, anon.

>>65208308
So Palestine never sent paragliding troops to attack a concert of kids and an old folks home?

>>65209842
zigger tier response

>>65207082
>https://www.euractiv.com/news/ukraine-received-patriot-system-from-israel/
it does not say 'israel sent partiot to ukraine'
it says
"The Biden administration requested that Israel return its outdated, 1990s-era Patriot systems to the United States for refurbishment. The United States then routed these systems to Ukraine."

israel has nothing to do with it

>>65210164
how can you just blatantly make up stuff? you're not in russia or iran/palestine, everyone with eyes can click the link and see what you said just... isn't there. i give you that i actually had to check because you see this gaslighting only from official statements of those actors or someone like copelord, but not even on fucking 4chan an average shill or troll lies this openly into someone's face

>>65208200
Germany started the war and lost, so they deserved to lose whatever the winners saw fit.

Palestinians and their allies have started many wars and lost every time, you can connect the dots for the rest

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>>65209528
Retard. Also funny you don't deny the unjust attack and kiddnapping the Palestinians made on a fucking kids concert and an old folks home.

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I wish the Israelis really were genociding paleshitians. Then the whining would be over in a couple of years. As it is we've got to listen to people try to tug our heartstrings on behalf of murderous genocidal assholes for the rest of out lives.

>>65207032
is there any stance on them that won't make someone hate you?