>NEW: Mysterious aircraft spotted with a thermal camera near Area 51, The Aviationist reports https://xcancel.com/TheInsiderPaper/status/2062530606366703732
>>65207569that's my peanus weanus of course :DDD
>>65207572seek medical attention
weather balloon
>>65207569>canardsEw
>>65207587Well it is pride month, I guess it's allowed to be gay for now
>>65207582idk might be swamp gas
>>65207569https://www.sarna.net/wiki/Sabutai
I will need a lower quality image to decide.
>>65207569F-47
i know but i wont tell you
I wouldn't worry about it.
It looks like an evolution of the X36 that first flew in 1997. The design heavily influenced NGAD. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonnell_Douglas_X-36Newer test craft in the X-45A and the cancelled X-44 Manta have a different configuration.
looks interesting asf ngl
>>65207569>no exhaust signature>uniform thermal signatureIt's fucking fake.
>>65207569
>>65207668>no exhaust signature>uniform thermal signature>fakeor...
One of the X-plane demonstrator for the NGAD, first flew in 2019
Source seems a little dubious.instagram.com/projectfearofficial/
>>65207712https://theaviationist.com/2026/06/04/mysterious-next-gen-aircraft-allegedly-spotted-near-area-51/Seems to be real
>>65207569Nice, the new Chinese jet actually made it all the way into the heart of the US without being detected.
>>65207569The US finally invented the J20
You can stop your butthurt spam now, chinky
>>65207569The F-47 finally spotted. Took you burger-bros long enough.
>>65207587If the Canards are fixed, they won't compromise stealth.
>>65207780It would have to be a demonstrator or something, potentially even for F/A-XXF-47 is supposed to have its first flight in 2-3 years, if they're still flying demonstrators in 2026 that's a bad sign.If it's an F/A-XX demonstrator then the timeline makes more sense as F/A-XX isn't expected to fly until the mid 2030s.
>>65207780Nevermind that, the image is a fake. No exhaust heat plume, uniform heat diistribution through the aircraft. A shitty fake at that.
>>65207569Twin-engine stealth Viggen.
>>65207854> the US mastered all aspect IR stealth and the online consensus is it's a shitty fake
>>65207865I would start believing in Alien tech transfer if that happens.
>>65207865Another case of >Military leak dismissed online as fake and gay for being too fantastical
>>65207854https://theaviationist.com/2026/06/04/mysterious-next-gen-aircraft-allegedly-spotted-near-area-51/> Some doubts were mentioned in the comments regarding the absence of a visible exhaust plume, using it as evidence of the image being fake or showing new advanced thermal management technologies. Otteson posted as comparison an image of a fighter jet captured in similar conditions, which similarly did not show the exhaust plume.
>>65207569Obviously classified.
>>65207713https://theaviationist.com/author/stefano-durso/Is de Usro Italian for Da Bear?
>>65207898>Alien tech transferJust what do you think the DVD is? Fuck man, stop living in denial and just buy The White Album again!
>>65207569>canards lol, lmao
>a carbon copy of the j-20
>>652075692 billion dollars
>>65208090>and other fantasies you can tell yourself as a chinese shill on an american forum
>>65208111it do be like that doe>99% same shape>canards
>>65207569Looks sort of like the NG mockup for the F/A-XX
>>65208166That's what I suspect it is, a flying demonstrator for F/A-XX >>65207799
It's Dirge.
>>65207688sexo
>>65208090>>65208296You mean Viggen, guling
>>65207598Clanners get the rope.
>>65207569Fuck.I dont like this. Looks lame af
It strongly resembles the planform of the “Christmas Tree” design Northrop came up with during ATF. It was apparently the stealthiest they could come up with, though there were significant maneuverability compromises, which led to YF-23 being selected as a middle ground. The forward section matches pretty closely to released renders of F-47, this is very likely NGAD related and not F/A-XX. There is also a fair amount of X-36, and possibly dihedral tips in the vein of Bird of Prey, so this is likely the Boeing demonstrator. It is worth noting that the Air Force recently did a massive land grab around Area 51, around the time it is claimed this was captured. While it is still very possible it’s fabricated, said land grab could have been motivated by them knowing it was captured on video.
>>65207569Of course, the fabled XF-67
>>65207569>>65208601Doesnt it seem like the rear wing tips are downward facing rotating ruddervaders
>>65207598>75 tons weight>44 tons of payload availableThe fuck are these niggers smoking is this thing the size of a city block?
>>65208673With the level of detail on thermal cameras theres no way to make that call. All we can say is Boeing won F-47, this design if real is materially similar to released F-47 renders, and that Boeing/McDonnell have previously built an advanced stealth demonstrator with dihedral wingtips, which could explain why the wingtips looks strange. Or it could be a consequence of the camera’s low resolution and the wings are completely conventional, we can’t say until we see the production F-47 in a few years, or if official pictures of the demonstrators are released.
>>65208324You mean, J-9
>>65208694I bet its a combo of the X36 and the bird of prey
>>65208703The J-9 was proposed in 1964, the Saab 37 had the design finalized by 1963 after starting in the 50s.
>>65207569what's next?vertical tails too?strakes as well?
Looks like the ultra low stealth design Northrop came up during ATF, but choose to go for the more conservative YF23 instead, technology could have matured enough for this design now, it'll probably have an immensely low RCS, nobody has yet came close to the raptor stealth, imagine this thing.
>>65207569captured j20
>>65208710There’s very likely a lot of DNA from them there. Canards closely resemble X-36, and both this image and released renders can be interpreted to show dihedral wingtips ala Bird of Prey. I would also point out that SecDef produced an ai slop video the other week showing a lot of American equipment in testing that seemed to suggest F-47 may have dorsal inlets. While that could of course be misdirection, they were also featured on the Northrop Christmas Tree >>65208601 that this closely resembles. It would also track with a design that emphasizes stealth above any other feature, which the planform suggests this does. Assuming it’s not all a well constructed hoax of course.
>>65208791wouldn't that suggest this is more interceptor like plane? You arent getting high aoa with dorsal intakes. Seems like the plane is for high altitude with top intakes to hide from both ground radar and other planes
>>65208816It would track very well with the mini AWACS/drone quarterback role they’ve said 6th gen will be about. Something that can sit high and far away with very good battle space awareness and act as a major datalink hub. Stealth and endurance would be the major design goals, though I’m sure it will still be pretty fast maneuverability appears not to be a priority. As an added bonus if the design can accommodate a decent weapon bay it would be a very capable airframe for attacking high value ground targets.
>>65208760Interesting
>>65207569this is a still from the trailer for ace combat 8
>>65207569Can't be american, we hate canards.
>>65209248If the F-35 incident is anything to go by, stealth planes shouldn't have canards OR tail fins. At this point it's probably too much of a risk for them to even have intakes. Every plane must transform into a RAM-covered shahed if it wants to survive. It is the crab of the plane world
>1/3 of the posts in this thread is just one seething chinkshill samefagging Grim
>>65209248You mean how the chinx copied >>65207620
>>65208677battletech tons are not metric tons. Battletech tech is beyond our comprehension (its magic.)Anyone who tells you otherwise (like battletech fans) are retarded genuinely.
>>65208677That's not even a heavy gross weight for the size and payload. A B1 is 87t empty, 148t gross, 216t MTOW. F111 is 21t empty, 38t gross, 45t MTOW. 30t gross and 75t MTOW is light and a huge bargain.>>65209277Actually retarded.
Search your feelings
>>65209248The J-20 is a genuinely a pretty good upgrade program for the J-11/J-15 series.
>>65209299Get the fuck off my board. Go back to /tg/, crossboarder scum
>>65209366I'm a fa/tg/uy (you) newfag. I was on this board before you and I will be here after (you) finally get around to doing us all a favor by suck starting a shotgun.
>>65209395You can think tabletop is canon on /tg/. On /k/ we like realism.
>>65207569>Canards
>>65207569>fucking canardsLooks like a J20 lmao. Is this the century of humiliation for the US?
>>65209440Pandramodo, is that you?
>>65207569>the aviationist reportremember back in 2020 when aviationist also reported seeing ngad weeks after the air force said that they had developed it?remember?no?i doyou can tell is fucking ai because it has dual canards
>a J-20Imitation is the most sincere form of admiration
>>65208090A stolen j-20. Glowniggers probably could pull that off.
>>65207688>Why the long face?
Who took them? I'll laugh if it's the trucker from ATS with a bazillion dollars in camera equipment
Why are chinkshills pretending like they came up with a rather generic but good design for stealth as if everyone doesn't use the same fucking shapes for planes? Good lord there's even prototypes of planes that predate the J-20 being an idea.
>>65209851you're coping. It's not healthy
>>65208791It would give the "Phoenix" name an extra element.
>>65209878you couldnt even get the proverb right you retarded slant
>>65210070>we didn't copy it>it just happens to look the exact samecopium overdose
>>65210142Are you just unable to read?
>>65210142>In 1997, China began preliminary design studies of the J-XX (XXJ) program, which was reported by the United States Office of Naval Intelligence (ONI).hmmmm very interesting
chinkshill, didn't your japanese grandfather teach you basic logic?
>>65207713>seems to be real>aviationistghost of kiev was more real than this
>>65209406>noooo the game rules aren't reallllllll Nta but holy fuck you are a insufferable faggot. >75tonsFor packing the equivalent of 4 MBT+ grade firepower and being able to perform surface to orbit deployment unassisted that's beyond amazing and goes into black magic.
>>65208990stfu fag
>>65210159in BattleTech they have black magic fusion drives with ridiculous dV and thrust
>>65207572FPBP
>>65207569It's the NGAD/F-47 prototype, obviously.
>>65209316
>>65207572>malformed>black>glows in the darkChecks out.
>>65207860my nigger
>>65210464bean fueled twin engine?
>>65210168Literally tsmtThe delta v required to haul a bunch of mechs to and from orbit and also have fucking ftl drives is beyond known science
>>65208760Yeah it looks rather like this, basically an evil flying Christmas tree only seemingly with ruddervators sort of like a YF-23 tail pushed out to the wingtips? Seem to also be upside down like the bird of prey prototype which would make sense that this thing has that and X-36 (also a flying Christmas tree) DNA.
>>65209878J-20 silhouette looks like a very fucking regular jet, this thing looks like a Christmas tree with a B-2 looking rear section. The Chinese fucking wish the J-20 looked like this, it looks at best like an inferior past gen idea of this. Which it is, at fucking best.
>>65210150>>65209878Do you ever get bored of being jealous of white cock chang? The J-20 is a stinking piece of shit for what its dressed up to be (a quasi-stealth aircraft instead of a well developed, true stealth aircraft). At multiple angles the stealth of the J-20 is severely compromised. Its like comparing the Wright flyer to a Bf-109.
>>65212359Wasn't the engineering team executed last month?
>>65212370Pretty sure it wasn't anything directly related to the J-20, they killed the guy who ran their radar development along with a couple other scientist. Pooh Zedong was really unhappy with the doctored results of multiple tests, they deserve no good things with how their backwards ass country is run behind closed doors.
>>65207639fr fr
>>65207587All 6th gen fighters will use canards.The Swedes have been vindicated.
>>65207569>a J-20Lmfao so much for muh canards