Daily reminder anons, to never talk to the police after a self defense situation. Anything you say can and WILL be used against you. Thank me later, after you post bail.>https://youtu.be/d-7o9xYp7eE
You're all sick people. I hope you all get cancer. Fuck youse all. I put a curse upon you all. Fuck ya mudda
Reminder that the police don't exist to protect you or help you. Protecting yourself is your own right and duty, and the police exist to interfere with your ability to do so.
Bunch of salty mossy pukers itt. Just join the cops and you can mag dump anybody.
>>65210685the cops that frequent this board are NOT gonna like this.
>getting bail>as an uncooperative murder suspectlmao
>>65210685If you’re in a self defense situation and refuse to say anything to the police then you’re 100% going to jail on murder charges.
>>65210718shut up piggy
>>65210721I mean, if you want to spend six months in jail because you thought calling 911 and saying "I just conducted a self-defense shooting at [location], I need an ambulance and officers. I will be at [place] and the weapon will be on the table", that's on you. I have shit to do with my life.
>>65210706>>65210718Sorry officers, the Founding Fathers canoed a lot of pigs in order for me to enjoy my 5th Amendment. I am presumed innocent until you and your BuFu buddies in the DA office can prove otherwise to 12 people.
theres a difference between clamming up immediately and not saying anything incriminating. cops know when you are trying to attempt legal fuckery and will be much shittier to you as a result so i do think its important to cooperate but also to know when its prudent to shut up. were all dead inside here so its not like killing someone is actually gonna have you rattled, you should be able to think somewhat competently.also im tired of anons who still parrot nuggets of advice 20 years after hearing it.
>>65210729>the Founding Fathers canoed a lot of pigs in order for me to enjoy my 5th AmendmentSo don't fucking incriminate yourself by acting like a red-handed murderer, dipshit.
>>65210724>Saying incriminating statements on a recorded line Might as well show up to the state pen with a gallon of KY jelly. >>65210730>you should be able to think somewhat competently.yes, by not talking to the police and incriminating myself.>>65210739How does not giving a statement and waiting to talk with my lawyer/legal aid incriminate myself Mr. Officer?
>>65210750if you didnt recreationally kill someone in self defense you wouldnt have to worry.
>>65210721>>65210729I actually am a cop. If you kill someone in self defense and refuse to cooperate at all then you’re getting taken to jail charged with murder. A grand jury will most likely true bill your charges and you’ll stay in jail until superior court is in session in either September or April, then you can have a jury trial where your attorney will have the burden of proving that you were acting in self defense. Self defense is an affirmative defense in court, that means that the burden is on the defendant to prove that your actions were reasonable. If you can explain on scene that your actions were self defense and CID thinks your story checks out then you’ll remain free and the DA will present the case to a grand jury who will most likely no bill it. If CID thinks your story doesn’t check out of the grand jury true bills it then you’ll be in the exact same scenario you would have been in the first place except the record will reflect that you always claimed that it was self defense.
>>65210758Yeah but all the cool contrarian kids these days are doing the former because the latter is cuck bootlicker basedboy behavior. According to them taking the reasonable middle line means you might as well cut your dick off and let PIPOCs fuck your bussy.
>>65210685never trust or talk to police, they are soldiers of jewish liberal feminism and basically just HR people for zog>>65210699this
>>65210781If they want to get locked up and not shit up the board, that's fine, too. I just wish they wouldn't eat my tax dollars while doing it.
>>65210785>i watched one video from a man id never heard of and made that a core belief of mine for the rest of my life.
>>65210717God tier video
>>65210785>feminism>muh wamennnnnn >:(
>>65210816nah police are the enemy they didn't do shit against BLM and communists when they burnt down cities, they exist to protect ZOG and go after White working class people, its 2026 boomer, we all hate police and their role as slavers to the billionaires and capitalistic class
>>65210828correct, feminism is the enemy and destroys society
>>65210750>hey some guy just tried to murder me and I shot him come help>incriminating statementPlease be evaluated for mental disability ASAP.
>>65210685>>65210729reddit tier dunning krugerism>>65210758>>65210724TrueThis is what most actual self defense attorneys recommend, to give at most a >this guy came at me with that knife and I had to fire to defend myselfThen ask for an attorney and shut uphttps://youtu.be/77sVAIMpwDE?si=VQTJTLBgh0FwPoqrhttps://youtu.be/_UKwxM_jU_A?si=xSCrL3UdUolnc0Mo
>>65210831>when they burnt down citiesyou mean like ten buildings total across the country? you sound like a euro.
>>65210860>you mean like ten buildings total across the countrymore like city blocks lmao>you sound like a euroIm not, Europe's might be worse than American cops. pigs everywhere are the enemy and exist to defend billionaires and manage the White working class and hassle them
>>65210706>>65210718>>65210724>>65210730>>65210758>>65210755>>65210781>>65210849>Nooo, you NEED to call the police and incriminate yourself!>Bro, just talk to the police, they'll totally be on your side>The cops and DA would NEVER go out of their way to fuck you over in a legal self defense shooting >Don't forget to get a USCCA insurance policy just incase>https://youtu.be/JRAr5Hq2TYYAgain, do not talk to the police. Anything you say can and WILL be used against you. ACAB including the fat pig reading this. Get back to busting people on a booze cruise and popping teens for smoking dope instead of doing actual police work and serving the public. >V*rification not required
>>65210944>The cops and DA would NEVER go out of their way to fuck you over in a legal self defense shootingSo your solution is to ensure you get fucked over?
>>65210951Sure way is to defend against police is the law and a court not some cop good will.Because cops are pigs and pigs don't have a good will. They only understand force.
>>65210758Never dude this. The cops will twist your words even if unintentionally like mentioned in the video. The amount of bootlickers in this thread tells me it's not organic.
>>65210968So why are you making your court case look worse? Do you think that proving you shot someone is going to be a challenge? Get that self-defense claim on the record as fast as fucking possible.
>>65210849They let you have internet in the old folks home? What's with this boomer youtube shit?
>>65210977>Waiting to talk to your attorney and not incriminating yourself is actually gonna make your court case worse.Whatever you say officer.
>>65210996Unless you have a criminal defense attorney on retainer they aren’t coming out to where you are to speak to law enforcement right then and there, and they probably aren’t even coming out even if they are on retainer.
>>65210996Quick question: do you actually know what the danger in speaking at the scene is? It's in saying too much. Specifically, human memory is what it is, and under the adrenaline dump of a shooting, people have a tendency to flub a detail while trying to play-by-play the entire incident, which forms a contradiction with the interrogation statements or written testimony formed later. The solution is to say LITTLE, not NOTHING, because do you seriously think that the prosecution that will nitpick a verbal typo is somehow NOT going to point out that you refused to proclaim self-defense until charges had been filed?
Acutal lawfag here:Under Salinas v. Texas the government can use a suspects silence in response to pre-arrest questioning unless the suspect specifically invokes their right to silence. So, if they show up and start asking about the dead body you made, and you are silent, the government can tell that to the jury to incriminate you.And just as a matter of course, if you say nothing, the police will probably have no choice but to arrest you since there's probable cause you committed a murder. You will have to spend time in jail. As soon as you're mirandized, request an attorney. You must do so clearly and unambiguously, any conceivable shred of ambiguity will allow them to keep questioning you. Also anything you affirmatively offer is a waiver of your rights. Keep in mind, depending on the time of week and day, you could be held in police custody for extended time until your lawyer arrives.Finally, do not fail to report a shooting. That is a separate crime apart from the homicide, and will make you look guilty as hell if it goes to trial.
>>65211084>lawyer agreeing with the cop ITTnice try piggy
>>65211172I could care less what the cops tell you. The law is the law.
>>65210758No cop knows this much about the law or can write this coherently.
its a pretty simple thing>you are under arresti want a lawyer. then dont say anything. >a hard head makes a soft casegenerally you dont want to take advice from a rapper but young jeezy is correct in this case. NEVER SPEAK WITHOUT AN ATTORNEY WITH YOU
>>65211084so dont stay silent, simply say "i do not answer questions without legal counsel present". or "i need my lawyer first" or "i have been told to not answer questions without my lawyer"if you arent a dick about it then i dont see how they can use it against you. aside from identifiers such as your name or producing ID you dont and should not say a god damn thing to police
>>65210758id rather spend a day in jail and bonding out than talking to a cop who will twist my words at trial. do not cooperate
>>65210849>trust these youtubers!lol, lmfao even. did not click
>>65210685ANON ASK FOR A LAWYEEEEERRRANOOOOOOONNNNNNNN
>>65211742I’m posting from my patrol car right now.
>>65212233Based on patrol poster. Just make sure you let the pot heads go, and give every FIP (friendly Illinois person) a ticket.
>>65212243I refuse to arrest for drugs unless it’s in conjunction with another crime.
>>65210758>>65212233So what do you tell them before you talk to your attorney?
>>65212251I’m not offering you legal advice, I’m just telling you that if I was in a self defense scenario I’d tell the first unit on scene in the least amount of detail possible what forcible felony the other person was attempting to commit that would have put me in reasonable apprehension of receiving great bodily harm had I not acted. I’d then say I’m not comfortable answering anything else without an attorney present. During the initial 911 call make sure to tell the dispatcher that you’re going to attempt to render aid and follow any first aid instructions that they give you, even if you know it’s futile. It’s not about first aid at that point, it’s about making you look better in the wrong turn. The last thing you want to do is argue with the dispatcher and refuse to render aid because the person is already dead, that looks bad.
>>65212262Thank you
>>65212262*look better in the long run
>>65212262I’d make you arrest the perpetrators dying body and charge him with attempted murder.
>>65212262>"I ain't gettin that nigger aids blood on me!"
>>65210685Your words will get twisted and most people are a) to dumb or b) get dumb in the adrenaline rush of a extreme situation . C) don't know how a innocent Sentence might give them a long sentence.>>65210718If you can't resist or it might hurt your case just be an ideot. Or like a vapid blonde saying omg 400x a minute. Embrace the shock get checked out by emt or a doctor. I wanna call mum or dad. Don't be smart " I saw the scatchy guy I thought he might rob me so I loaded my gun with the terminator kill max bullets just in case." Thats Bad... " I didn't notice him or pay him any mind, I don't know. The attack cam out of nowhere I was shocked and surprised." Better - you where a unsuspecting victim. Be like a dumb puppy not a cold smart veteran. if you could have noticed an escalating situation they might blame you with a duty to retreat. Why didn't you just leave? If you are dumb and naive nobody can blame you. " I never thought he would attack me!? it was just a exchange of mean words. Nobody fights over that! I was just stopping for gas at Martin-Luther-king boulevard" When you call the emberlamps Be helpful but ineffective, maybe involve others to create/influence a witness. Tell them what you want to be heard. " OMG a guy just tried to rob me we need help call them, I'll get the first aid kit." (Place the idea in their head. So everything they see pushes them in a favorable direction. Like they see the tire marks... will they think and thus tell the police a) He Swerved bc he Wanted to run him over and attack Vs b) see the tire marks and conclude he tried to break swerve to avoid and escape.) So like call for help get stuff like first aid kit from somewhere. If you can live with it do a shitty job nobody can blame you for doing shallow chest compressions or a bad bandage. Make seem like you tried to save them. After checking for safety of course etc. have the hotline guide you so they can't ask questions.
