>The Turks were riding into camp, cutting down noncombatants and unarmoured foot soldiers, who were unable to outrun the Turkish horses and were too disoriented and panic-stricken to form lines of battle. To protect the unarmoured foot and noncombatants, Bohemond ordered his knights to dismount and form a defensive line, and with some trouble gathered the foot soldiers and the noncombatants into the centre of the camp; battle. While this formed a battle line and sheltered the more vulnerable men-at-arms and noncombatants, it also gave the Turks free rein to maneuver on the battlefield.>The marshy riverbank protected the Crusaders from mounted charge, as the ground was too soft for horses, and the armoured knights formed a circle protecting the foot soldiers and noncombatants from arrows, but the Turks kept their archers constantly supplied and the sheer number of arrows was taking its toll, reportedly more than 2,000 falling to horse-archers.>the knights' armour protected them well (the Turks called them 'men of iron') the sheer number of arrows meant that some would find unprotected spots and eventually, after so many hits, a knight would collapse from his woun>Godfrey arrived with a force of 50 knights, fighting through the Turk lines to reinforce Bohemond. Through the day small groups of reinforcements arrived, some killed by the Turks, others fighting to reach Bohemond's camp. >the papal legate, arrived in mid-afternoon, moving around the battle through concealing hills and across the river, outflanking the archers on the left and surprising the Turks from the rear. Adhemar's force fell on the Turkish camp, and attacked the Turks from the rear. The Turks were terrified by the sight of their camp in flames and by the ferocity and endurance of the knights, since the knights' armour protected them from arrows and even many sword cuts, and they promptly fled, abandoning their camp and forcing Kilij Arslan to withdraw from the battlefield.
>>65218586>Bohemonddude basically carried the whole first crusade, Tancred too
>>65218595Bohemond, the son of Ronert Guiscard. Those early Normans were built different. They fucked up Anglo-Saxon, French Knights, Muslim Arabs and east Romans alike
>>65218616They more or less shaped medieval Europe yet your average person has never heard of the Hautevilles.
>>65218616they were basically superhuman or something
>>65218586A lifetime of training and the best equipment available produces results.
>>65218828About as close to superhuman you can practically make. >Wake up>Cardio training>Eat a high protein breakfest>Resistance training>Quick snack>Technique training >High protein dinner and etiquette training>Study tactics>Sleep>Repeat for 7 years, only resting on Sundays.
>>65218828Tancred of Hauteville had over a dozen sons and basically went to them and said that since they can't all inherit he'll teach them how to carve out their own kingdom themselves, and that's what they did. Him and his children were pretty much is the closest thing to the Emperor of Mankind and the Primarchs in real life.
>>65218586Also worth noting that this in a time where a helmet and a full body suit of mail was the best armor they could get, and the turks had the luxury of riding as close as they wanted and shooting at stationary targets. Killing knights got substantially harder as they got better armor.
>>65219125The knights of the crusade didn't really show their stuff until Antioch where they nearly starved to death on multiple occasions only to somehow fight their way to victory again and again.
>>65218586The whole point of mounted knights was so nobles could larp as warriors while facing minimal risk, even to the point the enemy would try to take them alive so both sides could still have rich larpers.
>>65219290That came later. Knights were essentially middle-class when first established and were still an effective military force up until the Pikes of the 1500s. We saw a lot of cases where knights were essentially for putting down peasant rebellions or holding castles in a siege.
>>65219290No.
>>65218929Worked pretty well. About half of his decendents ended up Counts.
>>65219290Get that Marxist interpretation of history out of here
>>65219125>Killing knights got substantially harder as they got better armor.I mean, with or without guns? "Full plate" was the result of an arms race between armor and firearms; most armor would stop pistol balls with no problem but even in the mid-15th century getting into range of a formation of arquebusiers was a move that had a pretty substantial chance of you ending up de-horsed if not just dead outright and once serpentine matchlocks and muskets show up it's just suicidal. A breastplate is not going to stop a greasy Spaniard with a repurposed wall gun from putting a hole through your chest while outranging your wheellocks by a factor of at least four.
>>65219290History says you are incorrect and a faggot
>>65224509Ehhhh....There is a reason armour didn't start dying off until the mid 17th century. Early muskets where cumbersome and hard to use and most of a squadrons firepower, up till the early-mid 17th century came from easier to use lighter arquebus.
why are knights so kino?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVLJ4NUQz6I
>>65218616*Robert
>>65218828>>65218929All from the same old Roman villa(Alta Villa) turned Norman fief outside of Cherbourg(where Pattons army incidentally stormed through while breaking the stalemate in Normandy)
>>65224551Excellence in action is fun to see.
>>65218586Adhemar De Monteil, the papal legate, is one of my all time favorite historical figures. A man of high emotional intelligence, and one of the greatest demonstrations of the warrior-monk archetype. Great post op
>>65218586Le bamp
>>65218586>kills youohnono larpsisters what is this?
>24 replies>1 img>2 postersNow 3.
>>65224509Both up until a certain point. There's a long stretch where guns just are not reliably killing them.... and then a short one where the odds are not great and they have pistols.
>>65229849Anon... that's... that's not the number of posters anymore...
>>65229815full level 4 plate armor when?
Reminds me of thisThe battle this is based on had the Poles significantly outnumbering the Teutonic Order, featured at least 10,000 troops on either side, and "203-211" knights killed and was a crushing defeat for the Teutonic order
>>65231276>200 knights killed>look up sources>Both sides had 20k knights eachThey really are tough.
>>65218586Well yeah, there's no point in wearing armour if it won't protect you.
>>65231276If the Teutonic Knights were outnumbered why are they portrayed as a Colossus?
>>65231816poles aren't know to be very level headed when it comes to ze germans
>>65218687They've got their own campaign on Age of Empires now at least. And got their own page in pic related.
