Post and discuss.
>>65219366Only real thing I can discuss since I haven't had a need for a new can in the last 6 months is that I'm a little surprised prices haven't fallen faster. I wonder if ATF is still being kinda gay when it comes to import/manufacturer licenses/paperwork and thus protecting the big existing players, because there's no reason in principle someone by this point shouldn't have setup shop just importing $50 chink "oil filters" drilling a hole and filing form 3s then selling 'em for $100.
>>65219384I'm not sure if there's a market for it yet. It's still a pain to obtain a suppressor. Many buyers think "well, if I'm going to go through the trouble, I might as well get a really good one".
>>65219366Pity there aren't American suppressors on the Euro marketWould love to compare without just reading about stats
>>65219494>It's still a pain to obtain a suppressorIt really isn't though? I guess the very first time getting electronic prints is still some effort if there is no kiosk nearby but then you're done. You can do the photo with your phone now. You make an online account like we all have for a billion things. Everything else is automated, dealer takes care of it, you just sign with your pin and then wait a few days. No more $200 fee, no long wait, no ink. It's not literally "buy it off the shelf and walk out" but the work level isn't much different then a gun where you need to do a form too.I mean yeah my views are absolutely colored by all those years of bullshit and having to go to a pharmacy and carefully tape it onto the paper forms and go to the police for ink prints and copy the CLEO and then wait 8-11+ fucking months with my $200 good boy check attached. I still think suppressors shouldn't be regulated at all. But the burden at this point seems so radically less and interest much higher. And how can you know what the market is if you don't try?So I'm more inclined to suspect the government is still putting its weight on the scale, just no longer in as obvious an end-user way. They do this in all kinds of industries afterall, protect incumbents from disruption when politically convenient.
>>65219366>discussQuitely.
I picked up 5 suppressors from Capitol Armory today. Nothing exotic, just padding out the basics:>Velos LBP 762>Omega 9k>Obsidian 9>Oculus 22>Turbo K RBI appreciate that the tax stamp is just $0.00 today. Still think the NFA and ATF are unconstitutional and should both be abolished though.
>>65219366Only have two suppressors at the moment.>Rugged Sub9Pretty much the best (silent) bang for the buck in my eyes. The included mount is pretty slick and the actual performance with subs is great. Slight tuning fork ring sometimes but other than that its just the click-clack of the gun and the sound of the round hitting the backstop.>OCL Polonium KIt works I guess and its gassy. Good for taking the edge off the muzzle blast but you'll certainly want to build the 5.56 rifle using gas mitigating parts. No issues with blowback on my PS90 SBR though.
Is there anything wrong with this, or is this just one of the first examples of a company making a decent product with competitive pricing in the post-fee era?
>>65219761I hadn't seen that one before, that's cool to see anon. And to your question, I mean, you'd have to do some actual testing to be sure, but on the face of it that definitely looks more like>examples of a company making a decent product with competitive pricing in the post-fee era?It looks like a pretty decent normal old fashioned baffle over-barrel design, optimized around manual action. They don't pretend it's full auto rated or anything, so that's a point for honesty. It probably doesn't have low back pressure nor squeeze every last decibel out of its mass/weight like some 3d printed thing but for $280 retail who fucking cares? You don't have to be perfect when you're 25% the price of some fancy titanium shit.I'd also assume that the warranty isn't as gold plated and things like that, but again, that's not necessarily a problem at a low enough price. If it lasts less time but I can buy 2-4 for the same price there's a place on the market for that. I'm actually kinda tempted to get one just to see how it compares to some of my fancy cans on an anecdotal level (I don't have the right mics to actually test for real).
>>65219761>>65219799pretty sure this is a licensed design of a european budget can from denmark. proven and well liked but for hunting but not designed for range fun at all. but also not some weird new thing just new to the us market since previously wasn't worth it with the fees.they also have another in the lineup that is meant for higher volume shooting. still not full auto i think but semi no prob vs this one for hunting only. paradox is hunting other is something else but cant fucking remember, it was some edgy name. also a cheap rimfire. all are value designs differences more about weight iirc.
>>65219799>>65219818Yeah on the product page itself, for both it and the non-overbarrel DT version, it explicitly says they're not recommended for "extensive use on semi-auto platforms". The one they DO explicitly say is acceptable for extensive semi-auto use is picrel, for a whopping $20 more. Direct thread version is the same price.
>>65219761Fuckin sweet. THIS is the sort of thing I've been expecting and waiting for. Lyman makes a lot of reloading kit, good folks, interesting they're giving this area a shot too but god bless em. Hopefully first of many.>>65219841Also nice. Looks like the claim is 60 rounds in a minute and then needs a bit of cool down. Yeah that's totally fine the vast majority of the time.
one thing I'd like to see more of related to suppressors on rifles isn't down to suppressors themselves but rather handguards. trend in suppressors has near universally been to fatter, like 1.6-1.8" but handguards all seem to be made still for pointy designs so you can't get one in there. overbarrel seems like it'll be same trend. hopefully we see that expand more cuz wrapped cans are sex.
>>65219893Return to tradition, embrace the magpul poly handguard
I'm 3 in since February. >YHM T3>CAT ODB>OCL 22TiAt this point I've got a suppressor that can pair up with every gun I own that has a threaded barrel so I'm going to chill for now. Truth be told if I could do it all over again I probably would've skipped over the T3 and gone straight to a CAT WB or Rhodie 6 variety, but it is what it is. >>65219384I think the issue is still the local dealer NFA fees. My local shop charges $100 for an NFA xfer for an item they don't stock or $150 if it's an item they have on the shelves basically forcing you to buy from them. It's a shitty practice but their on-shelf selection is good and well priced, but it does create a barrier for making those $150-$350 suppressor deals online worth it. As long as these things still require ATF forms, I doubt we'll see much substantial movement.
>>65219903>I think the issue is still the local dealer NFA fees.Not all dealers charge much though, fees vary widely same as with other transfers. Bad in some spots but reasonable in others, particularly with eforms making it much easier all around. But on top of that there are players like capitol armory that will ship direct to door in a bunch of states, not all but a lot including very big markets like texas. So I don't think that alone is the challenge. I think it's more that importing is still a bitch, so basically you still have to "manufacture" it here in the USA for some legally defined value of manufacture. Can license a foreign design like it sounds those folks above did but you still have to spin up enough local manufacturing to make it and I can see that taking 6 months along with all the paper work. And it'll still cost more then made in some dirt cheap foreign place.But getting to <$300 with more coming is a good sign imo. Even in the US if volumes go up and expectations shift prices will start to fall.
If you've ever bought a silencer you're part of the problem with western society.
>>65220087>how dare problematic white male shitlords not ruin their and their dog's hearingThanks for sharing the brownoid subhuman perspective.
>>65219366I really don't get the fascination with cans. They're heavy, long, make cleaning a bitch and you still need ear pro with normal ammo. And they're an extra expense as well. What's the point?
>>65219366>bought a B&T Print X SD can back in December>turns out it had a defect (one of the baffles was a few thousandths of an inch off, thus causing bullets to just barely kiss it and throw them off)>contact B&T for warranty >fast response>send it in in January>occasionally call and email support>always get "yeah we're working on it">March rolls around>start thinking where the fuck is my can>call>no response>email>no response >fuck>check online>apparently B&T USA is kill>FUCK>leave messages on every single extension because why not>by some fucking miracle a guy responds>"don't worry bro I got you">he sends me my can back with a detailed diagnosis on how to fix it>he sends a brand new can to my FFL>new can works flawlessly>LGS repaired original can (it just BARELY needed the that one baffle reamed)>now have two SD cansThat being said, the entire process made me get a few new gray hairs.
Thinking about ordering a YHM victra 12g later this week. Currently on backorder at silencershop but I don't mind waiting. I know they are not hearing safe but I don't own one and it seems to be cool. Plus I can use it to get around the 24" barrel requirement at a nearby sporting clays place.
Best stribog suppressor?Thinking rugged obsidian
My choice goodYour choice badEnd of debate
>>65220329Earpro alone can't protect you from sustained exposure to rifle fire especially in enclosed spaces, maybe if you double up every single timeThat said, I only have one suppressor that goes on both of my guns with an AU QD muzzle braket. eurofag
>>65220329They dramatically increase the places and times I can shoot. Also hit the gym and stop being poor. There's nothing worse than a weak, broke faggot, fortunately two of those are curable.
>>65220487Stribog should run cheaper DT suppressors just fine if you want to save a bit
>>65220544Any recs? All the sonicore shit is gone
Suppressor virgin here (soon to be deflowered) waiting on my AAC Ranger 7 to clear, I managed to snag a B&T A2 hub adapter I intend to use with it since most my 5.56 guns run A2 flash hiders and then I don’t have to brake the bank with new muzzle devices for all my favorite guns. Has anyone else used a similar setup? What are your thoughts.
what is the most effective, manually machine-able baffle design for 5.56 hard-ish use?So far I have just made radial cones with a cross hole, or standard angled cones with a cross hole, maybe a step.Last design was this tube-less, 17-4ss, radial cone one.AI won't let me work with it to come up with something better.
>>65220754Whatever the surefire socom uses cuz that shit is pretty bomb proof.
The only guns i would want to suppress are my LTT Beretta (9mm), my turk mp5 (also 9mm), and a 300 BlackedOut upper i bought from BCA. The 22LR i have doesnt have a threaded barrel and i dont believe in 556 suppressors.Should i just buy a 30cal and adapter my way into all three guns or should i get a 9mm only and fuck the 300blk meme
Need suppressor reccomendations.>G36K with 12.5" barrel>5.56>really needs to be low back pressure because plastic receiver and non-adjustable gas>must have HUB and blast baffle needs to be deep enough to be keymo compatible, using a jmac keymo G36 flash hider, same size as the Deadair keymo FH >length roughly around 6">accommodate FRT fire in the future>not too concered with priceI'm leaning towards the Lazarus 6. Not amazing on sound, but the backpressure is excellent. PTR Spiritus is another choice, but I don't know how it actually does on back pressure or if there's enough room fit a Keymo flashhider.
>>65220777Suppressed 9mm is fantastic especially on Berettas and the AP5. I think you'd have more fun with a dedicated 9mm suppressor that isn't heavy and is genuinely quiet. With cost of ammo, you'll use way more 9mm compared to the 300BLK. Especially with a FRT.I picked the Mojave 9 to use on my Beretta and AP5. I was on the fence between the Mojave and the Obsidian, but the reduced back pressure is really worth it on the Mojave. The Mojave 9 is also rated for 300BLK (with certain limitations).
>>65219366Do suppressors for stuff like 9mm actually make them hearing safe without ear pro?
>>65220777Get a nice 9mm suppressor that you can swap between your different 9mms and some cheaper direct thread .300 blacked suppressor that never comes off the thing.
>>65220899What?
>>65220787I do love the G36K, one of my all time favorites. I’d probably run a huxwrx as they are reportedly the best in terms of low-back pressure, or that suppressor the German army is running on the G95s (B&T I think? Not sure).
>>65220899With subsonic ammo, my Dead Air Mojave-9 (one of the quietest cans on the market) is about as loud as if I were to whack a hammer onto a wooden board, kinda hard but not as hard as I could. Is it hearing-safe? Yeah. Is it loud enough that my (townhouse) neighbor could hear it if I shot it in my backyard? Yeah. Is it loud enough that someone down the block would hear it? Maybe, but they definitely would have no idea what it is.YMMV depending on the ammo and can you shoot. I've shot supersonic out of this can too and, as expected, it's not completely hearing safe (though also wouldn't do me any damage if I had to shoot a mag of supersonic in an emergency)
>>65220899If you’re not a pussy, yes most do.
>>65221011Can't. Huxworx uses a proprietary mounting system.G36 uses a 15x1 RH thread, and I already picked up the keymo G36 flash hider.I'm too afraid to buy B&T now with all the legal crap that B&T US got themselves into.
>>65220899Absolutely, if you're using a decent can with subs. Change either of those variables and your ears will ring, at least with the sorts of barrel lengths associated with 9mm.
>>65220329Short rifle = very loud even with earproShort rifle with can = still loud but manageable
>>65220533>stop being weak>has to put it AR on a fucking tripod to shootLike i get it for hunting, but stop being an absolute faggot repeating dumb shit from other faggots. If hou actually have to carry your rifle for any sustained period of time, lighter is better.
>>65221111Can't believe quads got wasted on bait this fucking weak
>>65221114>anything that diverges from the hivemind is bait
>>65221129>I'm supposed to consider your bitching about a tripod to be "diverging from the hivemind"
>>65220754>radial cones with a cross hole, or standard angled cones with a cross hole, maybe a step.That seems to be about optimal desu.From my understanding high velocities call for steep cone angles. Also, isn't a slotted baffle better than one with an extra hole?
>>65219494As a first time can enjoyer this year, I was pretty shocked how easy it was. Worst part was having to get off my ass and get my fingerprints done.I do think there's still a lingering perception of it being a pain in the ass though, but hopefully that dispels with time.
Are there any 9mm cans that use a qd muzzle device? tri lug need not applyI'd rather just get one can for my pcc range toys and swap between them since I dont really shoot them that much anyway, but I dont want to fuck with direct thread all the time and trilug is gay
>>65221313>I do think there's still a lingering perception of it being a pain in the ass though, but hopefully that dispels with time.In time I think it will, and also systems will become even better. Fingerprints for example, the SilencerShop kiosks are expensive and they want a cut of sales and other stuff, but back before eforms that was the only option. But in principle should be doable now to produce cheap finger scanners that any LGS that deals in cans could offer and just gives you a standard EFT file, no lock-in, no BS, then you can use that forever more. That'd remove what is probably the final real one time friction point.But the new system has been in place and working right a relatively short time (worth remembering that the initial efile rollout had plenty of confusion by dealers who screwed things up, plus ATF hadn't changed their strict FIFO practice which was the final missing piece on that side). Suppressors aren't something people get every day, so if your last experience was even a couple years ago and you don't follow these things closely you're still going to remember it as kind of annoying. I think it'll take at least a year for the knowledge to really percolate out, though truly cheaper cans might help accelerate it.
>>65221323What's wrong with trilug?
Do you guys use e-sifnatures on your eForms? I've had ATF tell me twice that they don't accept e-signatures and to correct my forms so they use a "handwriten" signature (i.e. using a mouse or tablet with stylus). Once I do that, they approve them. Given that working with PDFs is already a major pain in the ass, this has become the biggest frustration with doing my own Form 1s.
>>65221791For my last F4 I was able to just "sign" with my PIN. I haven't done an F1 in awhile so I don't know if there are any differences now.>Given that working with PDFs is already a major pain in the assGet some better software? While it's bullshit not to just be able to use a pin to sign same as fucking taxes even, PDFs also should be pretty easy to deal with if you're just scanning a hand signature once (or using your phone) and then keeping it as a template.
>>65220713I have not and that looks complicated as fuck, not to mention your A2 probably has a crush washer behind it and that's a no-no for suppressors. Everyone these days runs some form of QD attachment like Plan B or hell even direct thread. You're planning on doing muzzle - A2 birdcage - A2 adapter - toothed suppressor adapter - suppressor? wew laddy. Better check tightness after each shot and keep an alignment rod in your range bag.
>>65221859literally what
>>65219893Just wrap the suppressor in nomex or something and use it as the handguard
>>65219366>mfw want to get into suppressors>don't want to replace the muzzle devices on all my gunsalso decision paralysis due to shit like>>65221029>Can't. Huxworx uses a proprietary mounting system.
>>65221857It's designed for widespread military issue.It works, it's repeatable, it's accurate.The suppressor attaches to the threaded hub on the QD and that threaded hub is pressed tight against the birdcage.
Since a suppressor is legally a firearm, coul one create an integrally suppressed sten/sterling/mp28 style carbine where the receiver and suppressor are the same tubing, and only have one serialized part?
>>65221029>>65221877Huxwrx has a HUB adapter.>>65221877>also decision paralysis due to shit likeDon't be paralyzed by outdated info, field is moving quick right now and a lot of standardization is taking place. But also keep some perspective anon. The reason not to buy a huxwrx is because they're fucking expensive and yeah they perform well for being low bp but as with most stuff on guns (like optics) you can get 85% of the performance for like 20-30% of the price. Better suppressors do perform better or perform the same for less weight but we're talking a handful of decibels, it's measurable but is going from 28 to 33dB actually worth a big price increase? You already got a huge reduction with that first few dozen. Conversely, if you really do want to insist on spending like fucking 1600 trumpbux on a titanium can who cares about saving pocket change on a mount, just get the stupid mount.Really though just look through reviews on pew science for something low-ish bp that isn't too expensive and is hub compatible and that's it. Or wait for more of the new wave of good budget cans to come out.
>>65221886>Since a suppressor is legally a firearm, coul one create an integrally suppressed sten/sterling/mp28 style carbine where the receiver and suppressor are the same tubing, and only have one serialized part?Yes, if the combination gives you enough barrel/OAL to avoid being an SBR. A suppressor that is integral or pin/weld does count towards length, and a fair number of people have done this if they travel between states enough. Obviously though there are downsides, like if you're shooting rifle rounds enough that barrel life is a consideration, because suppressors last much longer and you're making it a lot harder to keep that aspect separate.Another approach that I don't remember what happened to was having a "handguard muzzle device" which was shown at last shotshow or maybe one before. Clever legal hack, some other anon will maybe remember the name.
>>65221915I was thinking of a blowback pistol caliber, with a welded in trunnion in the middle, bolt and barrel can come out the back, and suppressor guts can come out the front
>>65221859Consider suicide, 4chud.
>>65221880How do you ensure concentricity when there's a crush washer behind the A2?
>>65221857>your A2 probably has a crush washer behind it and that's a no-no for suppressors.nta but how crooked can a crush washer possibly make a fully-screwed on muzzle device?
>>65221995It only takes a little bit. Id just swap it for shims just to be safe, its nbd
>>65221931Yeah for a PCC where the barrel will last fucking forever anyway (9mm can go like 40k rounds or more no prob) permanently attaching a suppressor so you can have a 1 stamp, non-SBR is reasonable if it works with whatever the model is. There also isn't that much innovation happening in pistol calibers, cans work pretty good, pressure is rarely an issue etc, so if you get a decent can doesn't seem like much risk of wanting to ever upgrade it. Obviously do make sure your final plan will get you to 16"+ & 26"+OAL, would feel stupid to go to the effort and end up with an SBR anyway.Anyway, it's totally doable, just a certain amount of extra trouble, and now that stamps are $0 and quick you're not actually saving any money or time either. If you ever want to sell it also makes it somewhat harder/costlier. I think the only remaining major reason is if you cross state borders a lot and in circumstances it might matter (comp maybe) and don't want to deal with 5320s. Your call on whether you care enough for that one.
>>65221973There's no reason why a crush washer would cause the A2 to sit crooked.
>>65222110Well I was just thinking of doing it for the novelty. I have a lathe now so making a tube gun from scratch is something I'd like to try to do.
>>65222275Just doing a fun project because you feel like it and wanna try is based so not going to discourage that at all. No more $200 per effort also lowers the bar a lot in terms of fucking around with it and seeing how it goes. So in that case yeah, god speed!
>>65221906It's always a balance between sound performance and backpressure. But, what is low backpressure? 60% increase in bolt speed? 30%? 5%? Everyone is marketing their suppressor as "low backpressure compared to traditional designs", but many are still very gassy.The problem is that there's no industry-standard metric for measuring anything. You've got Pew science on one end, with sound data on only <20% of the suppressors on the market. We can get a rough idea on backpressure on the shooters ear sound performance and the written report, but way to many variables and it's not properly quantified. On the other end, you have that silencer syndicate guy who blows out his ears every week telling us how he feels about a random group of suppressors, that may or may not include his report on backpressure.And like that G36 anon said, just because it's HUB compatible doesn't mean it will work with your muzzle device. For example, the first baffle in the Maximus L is very close to the back of the suppressor. Many muzzle devices won't fit, even though it's HUB compatible.
Finally got my first can a couple years ago. Have: Mac Bros. 556 FAS. I got their Gen 1 with proprietary FH mount for $439 on a closeout (was around $1k retail). Hadn’t heard of them so did some research and read great things and I liked their mounting system. I bought a second flash hider for $95 for my 14.5 P&W, and it stays on my 11.5. Want:-YHM R9 for my AR SBR. Seems like a solid option, and I could use it on my remaining 16” 5.56. Still learning about the main mounting options, I’m leaning towards an ASR FH (1/2x36). -Rugged/Ruger TXD22Ti. I know there are some cheaper options, but my ‘tism likes the fact the burnt bronze finish matches 10/22 barrel.
What's the absolutely best can for a p90? A ton of people have posts but they are years old and we have seen tons of 223 stuff come out. The new b&t compact print one seems legit but hard to find good reviews.
>>65222688I googled "P90 suppressors 2026" and immediately got multiple pages and videos that are specifically answering your question, faggot
rc4 mini is pretty nice, almost zero gas, I would say effectively zero gas honestly. Ejection pattern same.Also if you are on the fence about an ocl polonium k, go ahead, it's great, still a traditional stack so you'll need an h2 on a 16 and h3 on a 11.5/10.3 but great can, light, and hub compatible.Am looking at getting a exigent defense fireteam 556 or possibly vanish, that is the next logical one.
>>65222528>silencer syndicate guyI honestly take this more feedback than others, he owns an absolute insane amount of cans, I would trust his opinion, plus his high tier list of cans are actually pretty good ones. And he tests on both bolt guns and semis.
>>65220713>aac ranger 7lol damn dude you couldn't have bought a more worse suppressor for a beginner. should have gotten literally anything else.
>>65219903>1.87 MB JPG>I'm 3 in since February.>>YHM T3>>CAT ODB>>OCL 22Ti>At this point I've got a suppressor that can pair up with every gun I own that has a threaded barrel so I'm going to chill for now. Truth be told if I could do it all over again I probably would've skipped over the T3 and gone straight to a CAT WB or Rhodie 6 variety, but it is what it is.very good choices, I also would have went cat WB, but those are solid 3 choices there. the YHM is insanely underrated.
>>65219384im surprised they aren't selling more, considering it's the fastest and easiest it has ever been basically. I did 2 and got both back in less than 3 weeks total (2.5 weeks), end to end, shipped to the door.
>>65220562flow 9k for size n gascat mob for sound
>>65222961And yet most of them are not discussing suppressors released in 2026, why did you even bother to reply?
>>65222688Unless you are shooting subs any 5.56 can will get you there. The problem with most 5.7 suppressors is they are basically .22lr cans made with anything stronger than aluminum baffles. What you want is a short fat 5.56 can that will produce little back pressure but keep the P90 configuration as short as possible. Unless you are looksmaxxing I would consider getting the YHM Fat Cat as a dedicated can.
>>65222615>fetal alcohol syndrome suppressorIt’s called a pillow
>>65223333How dare you sir!
>>65223289>suppressors released in 2026That's not what you asked for. You asked for the best can for a P90, which is almost certainly not any can released in 2026, the year of the budget-can avalanche
>>65221857>>65221880>>65221995I’ve got a set of decent alignment rods so we’ll see tomorrow when I pick up the can. Got shims to but honestly curious if it will work with just crush washer. The hub locks in using a gate-lock similar to the KAC NT4 then screw-ratchets to center on the flash hider and keep it from backing off. It locks and centers really good onto two of my rifles, one shimmed and one crush-washer.As far as I can tell all of the Mk.18s in the early 2000s that used the NT4 were secured using only crush washers so might be possible to use it with only crush washers and NATO spec A2, will have to check again with the can attached to verify bore alignment. >>65223026Literally can’t find anything on the internet on why it’s a poor choice for a beginner. I got it because I wanted an inexpensive surefire clone that would take hub adapters. If surefires weren’t $1000 and their muzzle devices weren’t $350 a piece I would have got that instead.
>>65219366why can't China do something like make 3 different low cost parts that can be screwed together to make "not a silencer" or an 80%?
>>65223588Wait til you learn about "solvent traps" and "fuel filters"
>>65223588Here you go bud.https://autokingpart.com/products/fuel-filter-5-8x24-1-2-28-solvent-trap-napa-4003-oil-wix-24003-monocore-gas-adapter-inline-replacement?currency=USD&country=US&variant=42720417480835&stkn=df0457e35b84&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=17248306535&gbraid=0AAAAACaT6VB_I83As3CppxvFaFKdlVwJ8&gclid=CjwKCAjw857RBhAgEiwAI-1yKB2_D9kzOBX6ED5oWTeDvpK4VUu07yWDX8AmOdM4HfG246mGbZMYQxoCf6gQAvD_BwE
>>65223323I don't know if I'm so much looksmaxxing as length, I like something that I could use without hitting things compared to some of the cans like ECCO MachineCaracal,(although there are many longer) I have a hux 556 flow which is certainly heavier than a 22 but I need to get another muzzle device to use it and I don't think it's a great look on the ps90 with how it would sit on the barrel.I'll check out that yhm, they make some good stuff, thanks
>>65223574>As far as I can tell all of the Mk.18s in the early 2000s that used the NT4 were secured using only crush washers so might be possible to use it with only crush washers and NATO spec A2, will have to check again with the can attached to verify bore alignment.Unironically, just email Chris Bartocci and ask about whether that's how they did it and whether they ran into any issues with it. If you are ever at the point where you have done actual research into historical configs or technical specs, then you are well past the point where you will reliably go forward instead of backwards on your existing knowledge base by asking here (an esp in the generals), and you should instead talk to someone reputable and in the know who's friendly about it.Also, not him, but buy his books.
>>65223690Looks like it was pretty common practice at the time, regardless of what his books say.
>>65223690Zoom in on the muzzle devices, doesn’t look like they’re is any flat washers.
Would a milkman be a noticeable improvement over a gsl fatman on an mp5k or am I better off with something like CAT?
>>65223868Why do so many suppressors have such faggy names?
>>65223898I think it used to be the whole tee hee government form has funny words, but now retards create retarded company or something
Has anyone cut open some of the high performance 3D printed stuff like CAT or SAW?I wanna see what they look inside.
>>65222528>But, what is low backpressure?How much extra pressure is generated behind the bullet over time due to extra flow constriction from the suppressor. In terms of actual measurements I think only Pew Science actually has consistent measure there based on sampling. In practice what it meant for me anyway was a lot less gas face and dirtyness. I went from a high-bp (by pew science omega rating) to a low-bp one on a 308 rifle with a good 6pos AGB. The rifle definitely ran perfectly fine with the high-bp can once tuned, but the difference in pleasantness going from that to a low-bp can (a Flow762 if you care) surprised me. I was expecting something sure, but not as much as it was.And while I can't prove it with any mic I have it actually feels the same or a touch quieter too despite the previous can theoretically having somewhat better suppression. One thing I have measured is that the action of operating a semi gun is actually surprisingly loud. Nothing compared to muzzle report obviously, but easily 100-110dB. I think that'd be easy to muffle somewhat, a bit of rubber stops on where the bolt hits the upper in certain spots or other small design tweaks, but nobody has bothered I know of presumably because who cared when the blast was 160-175? In a world of suppression though, maybe there are other gains to go after. And having the gun work harder might produce more noise on that front. I suppose technically it'll wear the gun faster too, though doubt that actually is a limiting factor in practice.>doesn't mean it will work with your muzzle devicemeh. I run some stuff direct thread and it's fine. I guess ask around and check, but ultimately just feels like a minor thing on the scale of suppressors.
>>65223898>Why do so many suppressors have such faggy names?1. Being like, actively an enthusiast of gas flow dynamics AND 3d printing/cnc AND guns is small overlap on a venn diagram that is already tiny vs normal population. So a lot of the best designers are turboautists of one flavor or another, and since a lot of the best suppressor companies a tiny and pretty new they're purely the makers with little to zero marketing or whatever yet.2. The final product of a ton of effort and manufacturing is a nondescript metal tube that by default looks about the same as every other metal tube ever. Objective measurements and standards are minimal and old. So I theorize a lot of places are desperate to do anything to stand out.
I just started working at a LGS, really nice one actually.. we have a Suppressor Shop kiosk and a pretty decent selection in house.What should I get as my first suppressor bros? I mainly just want to put it on my 11.5 BCM AR, maybe a 9mm one in the future?The Huxwrx flow-throughs are really cool but cleaning them seems annoying.. we do also stock the big bottles of cleaner too so Im sure I can get a good deal on that shit.what get bros?
>>65225373>The Huxwrx flow-throughs are really cool but cleaning them seems annoyingYou have to clean modern cans basically never. I have a hux and other 3d print stuff and have only needed to bother once so far. They tell you to weigh the thing when you first get it, write that down, then wait until it gets, like, an oz heavier, if it does. Which can easily be 5k-10k rounds. Then the cleaning procedure is:- immerse it in a bottle of clp and let it sit for a day or two- pull and drain- shoot a mag through itand that's it. They say they have some sort of low friction coating inside but probably it's just because gas if flowing through fast and hot so it doesn't have much chance to deposit a lot.You might have to clean your gun more though, but that's true with any can.
>>65225373>cleaning them seems annoyingFill a gatorade bottle with cleaner, let it sit overnight vertically so the carbon slops out of the bottom, take it out and let it dry over the day, screw it back on before you sleep, ez.
is it true that you can make a suppressor from car parts like oil filters and such?
>>65225774>is it true that you can make a suppressor from car parts like oil filters and such?No. Or at least, not something worth more than a shot or two and that'll perform badly even for that. You may have gotten confused reading on the internet with>oil filtersvs>""""oil filters"""" :^)ie, 99% complete china suppressors that don't have the right hole drilled on each end and that's about it. Which, mind you, by the law still should have been perfectly legal with a Form 1 but ATF cracked down hard on it.
threadly reminder for anyone looking into a can for 300bo: you probably DON'T want flowthrough for that because the backpressure can actually be helpful for cycling with subs in a short barrel.
Would a side charging ar bypass the whole gas in yer face issue
>>65225809Retardhttps://youtu.be/C7Nr8urjmPA
>>65226191If its effectively a bolt action rifle then yeah you won't be getting gas in your face.
>>65225373for 5.56 def get a flow through either the hux flow 556k or a surefire rc4 mini, just whatever mount system you want to stick with at that point. I would recommend anyone to get one of those two as their first 5.56 suppressor, then get a 7.62 like a Nomad or whatever fits your fancy for a bolt gun, and then a 45 hux or something for pistol.Then you can start looking at cool stuff like Exigent Defense, etc. Actually an Exigent Defense fire team 5.56 wouldn't be a bad first can, since hub compatible as well.Considering the price difference of the rc4 mini vs the hux, id probably get the hux but the rc4 mini probably can shoot more over time and is probably quieter.
>>65226533also fuck B&T, fuckers stopped giving the surefire mount for free, and their mounting system is ass and they are in lawsuits currently between the US and overseas divisions.
>>65226527No retard, its still semi auto but with a bolt handle on the bolt.
>>65226620Sorry, by your dipshit question I thought you were from the UK. Turns out your just a faggot who likes big black cocks up their ass. Sad.
>>65226538>overseas divisionsB&T AG (Sweden) is the only company. B&T US is just a licensed partner that did the importing and all the suppressor manufacturing in the US. Since apparently Americans cannot pay their bills B&T AG has sued them for money owed and legally blocking them from using the B&T name.
