/fa/ editionGuide: https://files.catbox.moe/9g5sv2.pdfPastebin: https://pastebin.com/gs6mLNikSTOP THE COUNT: DO NOT MAKE 1776 UNTIL 7/4#1775.1, #1775.2, ETC.Previous: >>65211062
Got a chance to shoot with the steel weight this weekend, what a difference! I can only imagine that this in 9mm would shoot like a laser. Even the +P stuff I had felt like nothing. This may become a “fuck around” competition gun
>We can get the gun in and test accuracy for grouping. That would be the only thing we can do. But the barrel will be loose if the gun is not cocked. When unloaded and not cocked, the barrel will move more freely, as that is how it is designed. But those groups with factory sights at 25 yards, is not unreasonable.I guess I'm going to be making use of that Walther® 30 Day Money Back Guarantee™ and eat about $100 loss
>one (1) round>neutralised (DOA)9mm is all you need for self defenseAlso, Shadow Systems is trash
>>65219397After you get the Comic Sans warranty form, please reply in Papyrus or Wingdings.
>>65219378It this Mrs. Graverobber Golddigger?
>>65219439It's wild how many police and civilian shootings seem to involve a basically static or slowly advancing target at 3-7 yards. Actual gunfights seem pretty rare.
>>65219439>no round>suspect neutralized
Just shipped my G17C slide off to get an optic cut, if it comes back in time I’m going to shoot a GPA match at the end of the month with it. Any anons tried GPA? I don’t have USPSA or PCSL near me and IDPA isn’t that appealing.
>>65219466>static or slowly advancing target at 3-7 yardsIndeed, seems the only thing that's changed since the work of Dennis Tueller is the number of cameras!>>65219469Melanin fears the Glock!
>>65219397Walther today is very hit or miss it seems with almost no in between.
>>65219480>Just shipped my G17C slide off to get an optic cutHahahahahahaha enjoy your little window filled with carbon.
>>65219480what the fuck is GPA
>>65219439Tell me if combat accuracy(tm) accounts for 1 shot stops
>>65219571Grand Punk Auto, it's a vidya game.
>>65219469
>>65219469>Awww sheeit why it have to be Officer lightskin
List of countries I've been to that I have a handgun from:>America (duh)>Austria>Germany>Italy>Czech RepublicList of countries I've been to that I DON'T have a handgun from>England>France>Russia>Sweden>Denmark>Poland>Netherlands>IcelandThis may be tougher than I thought. Any suggestions?
>>65219647Blackpowder antiques.
>>65219394If you don’t have the 6in barrel, be careful shooting it a bunch, the powder will sandblast the polymer frame under the match weight.
>>65219647Mak or Tok for Russia, MR73 for France, Firestar/Megastar for Spain, Bersa for Argentina, Radom for Poland, Webley Mk VI for England
>>65219394>>65219674Oh also, if you get the 6in barrel, the POI will be super high, so you’ll have to get the adjustable, taller sights as well.
>>65219469I'm tired of these fucking cops having arm sleeve tattoos
>>65219542tbf it is a Umarex, I especially should have known better. But I thought it was cool and the price was right>>65219647>SwedenOld Kellgren like a TEC9 or Grendel?
Elitist whore>>65219378>>65219378In our lifetime we will see glock sold to a private equity firm who thinks only the military, elites like them, and their bodyguards should be armed.
>>65219706I actually until very recently though Mossberg was Swedish due to their logo but nope; 100% American
>>65219486>Melanin fears the Glock!>Melanin-rich individuals overwhelming use glock in crimesOne of these things is not true
>>65219706>>SwedenHusqvarna m/1907 (FN-m/1903 clone) Chambered for the 9x20Browning-Long cartridge, but I believe a lot of the US-import versions were rebarreled for .380acpHusqvarna m/40 (Lathi L-35 clone), a lot of these are beat to shit, but there are nice ones out there.The old Swedish Nagant revolvers are nice too, often found in remarkably good condition. These are chambered for weird 7.5mm Nagant cartridge, but may relatively common .32cal revolver cartridges that work in them.
>>65219700Cops most of the time are just state sanctioned gang members.
>>65219725>100% AmericanLike Kel-tec, it was founded by a Swedish immigrant to the US.
>>65219737So true xister! ACAB!!!
>>65219439>one (1) round>massive malfunction immediately Average strikerslop experience.
>>65219439>>one (1) round>>neutralised (DOA)>9mm is all you need for self defenseYou omitted that the person shot was walking calmly and directly at the person shooting and the shooter had plenty of time to aim which, of course, made it super easy to place a round directly where the heart is, especially since it's 5" in size and only 6' away. I'm generally on the cops side, but this one is a pussy for not engaging him in hand to hand or, at the least, shooting him somewhere else less vital then stepping back and watching him cry to his mommy.
>>65219737Closer to the Mafia than a gang but sure pal.
>>65219772The Mafia was a gang
>>65219752Zogbot
>>65219756>engaging him in hand to handThis gives the perpetrator opportunity to take the service pistol and user it on the policeman.>shooting him somewhere else less vitalWould that it were so simple.>>65219755>Average hypebeast experience.FTFY, Shadow Systems is not GTG.>>65219726>Melanin-rich individuals overwhelming use glockWrong.
>>65219700Most cops aren't much better morally than they people they deal with. Wrangling and babysitting the dregs of society all day for laughable pay only really appeals to D-average retards who can't do anything else with their lives. Majority-white state police agencies are the only exception I've personally seen.
should I buy a 3000 dollar .22lr plinker?
>>65219844Unironically yes. Bullseye shooting is immensely satisfying even if it looks kinda gay.
>>65219844Not when you can get one for $700 that still outshoots you
>>65219571Galactic Pistol Association, to out do United States or International pistol associations. Less rules, less regulation lawyering, guided towards people looking for more fun. One issue is that it naturally attracts people kicked out of USPSA or IDPA or people don’t want to “waste” their time shooting something that doesn’t count towards their practiscore
>>65219869Reddit Pistol Association
>45 Shield >runs all the ammo I've thrown at it so far fine (pretty sure some Winchester hollow points were in that mix)>decide to use up some old Hornady TAP ammo that's sat in the safe for a decade no one's gonna use>chambers fine >after the first shot trigger goes dead>slide is stuck with the second round in the chamber>won't go all the way forward but won't pull back either >send it to the gunsmith since it'd be my luck I'd set it off trying to clear it and put a hole in my hand>no one can give me a straight answer on the causeThink it's ammo specific or tied to the fact its hollow point? Ran the same ammo in a SAR K2 and it had some ftfs too, but not to the extreme of the Shield's lockup
I need spare mags for my 9mm 1911 (Tisas).Are Mec-Gar good to go? I can buy like 10 of these at $18/each. They look at awful lot like the one that came with the gun.The alternative is $37-55 Wilson Combat mags.
>>65219927No 1911 mag is 100% "good to go," not even the big boys like CMC and Wilson. Every gun has different preferences. You should definitely get 1 or 2 and try them out though, and if they work well in yours yeah load up
>revolversfudd guns>da/sa fudd guns>striker firedplastic garbagewhat else is there?
>>65220002SAO.Come home.
>>65220012The P210, 1911,and Hi Power are the three best guns ever conceived. Honorable mention to Glock for doing something different and succeeding. I will never EVER fuck with DA/SA.
>>65220057>Glock for doing something different and succeedingThey succeeded, but it's an amalgamation of HK and Steyr at the time.
>>65220069Basically every firearm design in history is somehow derived from a past design.
Right hand Shield 45, left hand Smiff .38 shoulder holster on orderAlso I have to pick up the .38 from my FFL later when he's available
>>65220057Where is the Hi Power Hater Anon to come speak the truth?
>>65219755are you transgender perchance
i cc a glock 42 AMA
Noob here, Recently got my first handgun, a used P320 RXP XCOMPACT. Yes, I know about the p320 fiasco, but I got it cheap and I am on a limited budget. I have gone to the the range with it twice and put 150 rounds of Blazer 124gr 9mm though it, the gun has worked flawlessly, but I can't seem to hit shit even at 10 yards and I just don't know why. I know the red dot is off zero so I am not even trying to use it, but I cant seem to find a sight picture on the irons that gets me consistently on paper. I think I am mostly hitting very low. Can anyone give me some advice and point me to some references for new pistol shooters? I knew it would take effort to learn but I was not expecting to be this bad. Sadly, I don't have any gun owning friends to mentor me.
>>65220220Your dubs say you should switch to a 220
>>65220239Just slave the red dot to your irons at the start. Work on dryfire, get the trigger to break without moving the dot. Ben Stoeger is a good resource to learn how to shoot, but might be a bit too advanced for you for the moment.
>>65220239For sure you are anticipation flinching which, I think, all new shooters do at first.Getting more dry fire and live fire reps in will help that go away with some time.I watched a lot of YouTube videos to work through finding my grip and practicing trigger controlJoel Park and Hwansik Kim have some great videos on fundamentals as well as advanced techniques
>>65219394This looks like it should have three round burst.
>>65219756>shooting him somewhere else less vitalThere was a video of that where the cop tazed her first and she didn't react so he shot her in the leg. He got fucked for that. Last I checked it was taken down, happened out west like Texas or something, the woman was a beaner obviously.
>>65219469I like how he clearly says what the fuck.
>>65220220why do you do this
>>65219439>killing a "suspect"i guess we can just kill innocents now
>>65220375Who cares? What kind of retard rapidly advances on an excited zogbot pointing a gun at them? Seems like nature taking it's course to me.
>>65219871Not to be confused with the Reddit Association of Pistol Enthusiasts.
>>65219700pretty much every hospital and ems worker has them too.
>>65219891I've had times where I just had to yank on the slide to get the round out. One time it was with my reloads and I was testing to see if it chambers on my couch. When I got it out the bullet was stuck in the barrel and the ejected case spilled all of it's powder on my belly. Tapped the bullet out with a section of cleaning rod.
>>65220220>>65220208jk I cc a 43.
>>65219647Iceland is probably the only country you're completely out of luck with, unless you liberate some type of handgonne from a museum (if it was even made in Iceland in the first place)
It gives me the ick
>>65220488I work with this girl now who talks like that. I thought all of this stuff was just memes.
>>65220494THAT'S THE ICK BROTHER
>>65219927Like Burt says, it depends, there are different styles of 9mm 1911 magazine in how they place the smaller 9mm round in the magazine Tisa in my experience have shipped with mecgars
>>65220259>Just slave the red dot to your irons at the start.you mean putting the dot right behind the front sight when the irons are level right?>>65220270>Getting more dry fire and live fire reps in will help that go away with some time.I definitely intend to practice more. My dry fire has clear flaws but does not feel terrible. I am just baffled at how inaccurate my live fire is. is it normal to struggle to hit anything at 10 yards starting out? Like I put up 6 letter sized paper targets on the target board and I could not even consistently get hits on that. I can see some of the hits going low and hitting dirt but I can't quite figure out why its happening. I know I pull some shots but how bad I am still stumps me. I don't think there is any way the gun can be that far off so its got to be me, right?.Thanks anons. I will watch some more YouTube videos.
>>65220682I dont think the gun could be more than a few inches off at 10 yds. It's gotta be a lot of shot anticipation, and you're pushing the shots hard, subconsciouslyDoing some super slow trigger press reps during live fire may help with that or pressing super slow and talking yourself through the shot going off. Some people have reported good improvement from mental tricks like thatThen once it's gone, it should mostly stay away if you practice semi-regularly
>>65219588I've been thinking about that, John McPhee said that the B-zone makes greater sense to target than the lower A-zone because the CNS is more vulnerable at the neck and blood pressure drop after piercing the heart might not happen fast enough. SME's, play weigh in!>>65220375You're not allowed to advance on anyone without an invitation, anon.
>>65219647P83 Wanad for Poland or a P64 (although it's an abysmal gun) is a no brainer
If I want to put my Surefire X300 Turbo on my USP 45, should I buy this adapter?https://hkparts.net/lights-lasers/hk-usp-pistol-light-laser-adapter-mount/
>>65219647If you want something more modern, I've heard mostly good things about the VIS100 from Poland. It's biggest issue is price. Last I checked about $800-1000 depending on finish.
>>65221056that pink is pretty
>>65221056Not who you are talking to. But I owned a MAG98 and it was extremely underwhelming.
>>65221075iit would look cute on your hips owo
>>65221144dude that's gay
>>65221115I bet. 90's post Soviet states like Poland were shitholes with decaying industry. The vis100 from what I hear fixed the issues it's predecessor had and is now a serviceable pistol. $800 for serviceable is a tall ask though.Why is polish shit so expensive anyway? The VIS100, Beryl rifle, and presumably the GROT will be wicked expensive. Even the mesko 9x18 Makarov ammo is pricey.
>>65219700Me too, I’m a GenX and ex-copfag who remembers when agencies wouldn’t hire you with any visible tattoos. I don’t have any and the whole trend is just NPC-esque. >>65219833Where I will say most cops and those in LE are lacking is in the “gut check” do the right thing when personally costly. I say that as a former LEO, former because I was a whistleblower and none of my colleagues were willing to go on record and admit what they saw. Most are decent and probably got hired with altruistic intentions. Some egomaniacs, some think they are an occupying army.
>>65221161Poles have a reputation in Europe, it's not a great one. Not sure what it says about their country that the three most famous things from/about Poland in recent memory is a song about selling crack, some okayish looking pole vaulter, and a meme format (Poland/Country balls).
>>65219439>unarmed man walks toward you slowly>OH FUCK *magdumps*
>>65220430The difference being nurses, FD and EMS actually give a shit about your well being, despite being overwhelmed, overworked, and underappreciated. There isnt a lot of corruption in those lines of work.
>>65219860where you pulling the trigger with those fucking toes or something
>>65221161Only a handful of people import Polish guns IIRC and they know what they've got I guess.
>>65221409Kek got his ass
>>65221345Pretending to be crazy shouldn't fuck around with pretending to be sane.
>>65221056I want one of these, but I don't think they import them anymore. They're expensive and the black one is impossible to find now.
>>65221449holy band kid
>>65221449>Pretending to be crazy shouldn't fuck around with pretending to be sane.
>>65221167>t. didn’t make it out of FTO because he got “PTSD”
>>65221666>>65221676Manchildren detected. Cops are sociopaths who want to kill you.
Just put some gold grip screws on my BerettaI like :)
>>65221753
>>65221753Looks very nice! Where'd you get them from?
>>65221753That's not real gold
>>65221756Thank you!Got em from Patriot Gun Polishing >>65221766>that's not real goldSays they are on the site...plated obviously Even if they're not im happy with them. 35$ with free shipping...im not complaining
>>65221775You paid 35$ for a couple dozen grams of brass
>>65221781Bro...i get it. I bought them for the lookEveryone else selling "gold screws" wants like 20$+ a screw with no guarantee that its actually real gold...thanks for your concern though
>>65221781Plated gold takes a grain to gild a 1toz silver coin. I believe beretta anon that they're gold plated, it's less than a grain of gold for the 4 screws. The plating process itself probably cost more than the gold used.>t. /biz/ /pmg/ anon
>>65221901No it's brass
>>65221911>brassBrass can tarnish, gold does not. Only time will tell.
>>65221929It's already tarnishing
>>65221929Hit it with a dab of be brass black. If it's gold, it won't darken.
>>65221929>t
>>65220002striker fired with a steel or aluminum frame
>>65221901Nice stack
>>65222061Thanks I like it tooI'm just worried if the $ value per Toz of silver goes too high that 10Toz bars and bigger will have liquidity issues versus 1Toz and fractionalsBut that would be a good problem to have
>>65219439>be American>walk slowly towards a cop without a weapon>get shotMore proof that the only thing that stops a badguy with a gun is a goodguy with a gun.
>>65222086.t pretending to be crazy
I don’t get the joker reference. Am I too old (27)?
>>65222170nta but no you're just autistic
>>65221753>>65221755Congrats, now itooks much more like a Taurus.
>>65222170It's edgelord slop. Some guy will think he's like the joker and then his thoughts are interrupted by>Brandon!!! Come upstairs and help me put the groceries away!!!
>>65222170I dont know why the Disney Adults are so mad about a basic fact of life to the point they have to post capeshit.
>capeshit>as if joker edgelord cringe hasn't permeated every corner of the internet to where it's a common meme to even the most normal and all the most wizard of fags>can't handle being clowned for posting unironic cringetime to unplug mateoh
Will Colt ever make a 2011? Or are they just gonna go the Harley route and stick to "heritage" or whatever and just keep making regular 1911s?
>>65222267Seethe little boy.
>>65222276I doubt it as they have no experience with the platform, they'd have to outsource for the frames but alot of manufacturers do that. Colt is owned by CZ, DW is currently making this 2011+P220+CZ magazine abomination called the DWX.Possible. But Colt historically has been ran by fucking idiots and has no idea how to market to the public sector.
>>65222284>Seethe little boy.
>>65222284Heh, nothing personnel, right?
>>65220832Does anyone here know?
>>65222295I accept your concession
>>65222304Do you tip your fedora when you hit enter?
>>65222310Damn unc you bringing out all the 2010s memes today huh
>>65222304concess deez nutz in your face
>>65222312>Unc ahh diddy blud>Heh they'll never suspect a thing
>>65222318Disney adult ass unc stuck in 2016 baka
>>65219447No she's the horse cum enthusiast.
>>65222321>If I say Disney adult enough it will stick!!!
Moving to CA soon deciding between a Beretta 92 and Sig P226. I really hate the look of the LCI on the P226 but and wish I could get my hands on an Italian 92s. Is there really much difference between US and Italian made 92s? Also whats the deal with the brigadier slide on the 92? I kind of like the look.
>>65222374>Also whats the deal with the brigadier slide on the 92? I kind of like the look.thicker slide, heavier slide>double thickness where the slides "cracked" and split in two during US military testing (they were shooting proof loads by mistake of Winchester/Olins + a metallurgical issue with that batch of steel), over time a 92 slide may crack there if it was abused, locking blocks break, not enough recoil spring replacements in a extended life span (25k rounds + shooting NATO)>more slide material to add a front dovetail>heavier slide means a heavier gun, changes the recoil impulse since the slide travels slower. Some people don't like it, some people like it better. the brigadiers were more towards competition and also heavy duty use. The US Border Patrol IIRC adopted the 96 Brigadier which was the largest procurement of law enforcement handguns ever at the time. They promptly then shot nuclear .40 S&W loads through them, 155 gr screamers that cracked the frames in 15k rounds or so. At least the slides didn't crack.
>>65222391so they were shooting bubba's pissin hot loads and cracking the frames, gotchawhats your preference? the inox brigadier is pretty sexy. is there a noticeable difference in shooting?
>>65222408I think I prefer the brigadier, mainly for looks but I like feeling the slide ram home and over spring my guns typically. You’ll have to shoot both side by side to even try to tell the difference.It does nuke your holster compatibility but you can have a holster custom made.Ronin Leather Works is my favored maker. Actually not that different from having a custom kydex made by a Gucci shop
>>65219700Lol same. They look trashy
>>65220832>>65222303I have the GG&G one on my USP45T, so I can't directly compare but I've found it to be a solid mount.
>>65222420cheers. appreciate the info
>>65222430If you’re shooting irons, being able to swap the front iron does make a big deal. Otherwise you’d have to get the slide milled for a fiber optic front. My Wilson Brigadier with their battle sights with a fiber front.
>>65222391>promptly then shot nuclear .40 S&W loads through them, 155 gr screamers that cracked the frames in 15k rounds or soAs soon as man gets 40 he yearns for 10mm
>>6522246494X performance (the newest steel frame), swap my 96 slide on there, and the underwood .40 loads. What should have been the U.S. Military’s combat handgun.
>>65222482Just think of what could have been. 10mm NATO
>>65222482>What should have been the U.S. Military’s combat handgun>94X performance (the newest steel frame), swap my 96 slide on thereThat's not a P226, anon.
>>65221688>10 yrs local as an FTO>3 years on a high tier .gov PSD team >10 years as an 1811 (CBRNE and USMS TFO). Can’t wait to hear about your experience.
Has anyone on here tried one of these? Seems to be typical Keltec, if you don’t get a lemon, they seem to run pretty good. I’d actually consider carrying this (I know bodyguard exists) if it worked. With how cheap they are now I’ll probably end up buying one.
>>65222447this might be actually something I would want to change out, thank you for bringing that to my attention. didnt know the standard 92s cant swap sweet looking pistol btw. not usually a fan of green tones but yours looks great
>>65222790The Vertec model slides can also swap irons, it’s just that in CA the brigadier is the one you can get. Unless newer 92s made it onto the roster. I believe you can buy a vertec slide off eBay. Vertec slides would fit in standard 92 holsters while the brigadier is fat
>>65222715Whatever you say Robert.
My first USPSA match is in a month.I've got a Shadow 2 that I'm racing up.Tell me this will be fun and I won't get capped by a mall ninja using a keltic.
>>65222941>First match>Already has a shadow 2Lol
>>65223068I have a lot of handguns. This is handgun general.
>>65223068Yes? Use your words.
>>65222941Just have fun and try not to get a DQ.
>>65222941Hope you know how to thumb the hammer to decock.
>>65219869That sounds faggy as shit.
>>65223296> I hope you know how to do the easiest thing in the worldnope, never owned a single action pistol in my life
>>65223305What are you, gay?
>>65223068>your not allowed to own nice guns if you aren't a competition shooterSince when?
picking up some new guns for the coming race war/ societal collapse. is this to gaudy? i kinda like it
>>65223342I'm actually Elton John
>>65222810Ok champ you got me.
>>65223375>Worrying about how gaudy you look in a societal collapseGrab whatever you want, your dumbass won't last long enough for it to matter.
>>65223381When I was in grade school, a teacher would call students he didn't like Freddy MercuryKinda funnyHe didn't say it to the obvious gay kids which was even funnier
>>65223384If I was such a fuckup I got kicked out of the USMS I’d probably feel a little sore about it too.
>>65223457I was a task force officer and working for another alphabet agency, USMS loved me.
>>65223462who is this anon talking about guys?
>>65223517I used to think nonsense shit like thatAnd then I stopped smoking weed and got better
>>65220832Sorry I was at work and the mobile IP was banned. I have the HKparts rail adapter and it's one of the few quality products on that garbage site, It's big, chonky, and solid. If you want lighter and lower profile go with the GG&G but i've heard warnings that itcan bend with full size lights on it and their website even says that putting an X300 on it voids the warranty. So up to you.
>>65221449I agree with you but I think at this point it might be more of an indictment to your character because I'm pretty far gone.
>>65223556Thanks man. I'm not afraid of chonky so I appreciate itDo you also recommend using the floor plate and springs from hkparts to turn my 12rd mags into 15?
>>65220832I've had one since ~2012-2013ish and it's been fine. Never came loose or anything.
>>65220440I had this happen with a fucking snap cap. I used a cleaning rod but I didn't "tap" it (with a mallet?) I just mashed the clogged barrel down around it. I thought it was fine because it was a brass cleaning rod, did I fuck up?
>>65223629I'm sure it's fine. That wasn't sarcasm just in case it sounded like it.
>>65221444kek got them trips
>>65223642No I was genuinely asking, I was afraid I scratched my barrel
>>65223614Absolutely fucking not, it turned mine into an FTF machine, like not a single round fed correctly from it. And putting it on/removing it destroyed the spring that I used for it. As a general rule HKparts is hot trash, the rail adapter is, as I said, one of the few exceptions. I think I have a cleaning mat from them as well, that's about the level of manufacturing I trust them with.
>>65223647They're pretty tough.
>>65219439>>65219756>I'm generally on the cops side, but this one is a pussy for not at the least shooting him somewhere else less vital then stepping back and watching him cry to his mommy.SO. FUCKING. MUCH. THIS.LEO's have it pounded into their heads that if they are going to shoot the only place is mass center, and specifically the heart if possible; and don't forget to magdump every and any chance plausible.And WHY are they told that? Because very few of them are tough enough and far too many of them are females.
>>65221753>gold grip screws on my Beretta>carbon steel>thin Indian gold-coloured plating
>>65219378Wonder if SNL will sue her?
I learned something new today. Glock factory 10 round mags are less reliable than the 33 rounder and the beat to shit police trade in gen 4 mags I have. Even the most beat up trade in magazine was 100% reliable whereas the 10 rounders had at least one failure to feed a mag. RIP ban state bros.
>>65223702Also, Carhartt’s tool roll is decent magazine storage.
>>65223659>it turned mine into an FTF machineSame. I used to have that cleaning mat too.
>>65223375Dewalt-core
>>65223614>>65223708>>65223659Just double up on stock springs or get a custom spring order in, it’s not hard, and I have no idea how you gorilla’d your spring so hard that it was unusable. All 3 of my +5s run 100%. I even lost a pin and HK parts checked my order history and sent me 6.
>>65223716ai generated can. kill yourself
>>65221345>>65222089>>65223674Loomis drill
>>65223741Which spring? Give me a link and I'll try it this week. I would love for this piece of shit to work.
Think I'm going to pick up a glock 45 tomorrow. Assuming my LGS still has it. If not, we shall find something else.
>>65223716>Lift bridgeReal men drink Sprecher's.
>>65223802>we
>>65223810Yes. We, as in /hg/.
>>65223844:)
>>65223804Damn I should take a picture of my BCM with a bottle of sprecher for the Wisconsin pride.
I don’t drink.
>>65223786https://www.gunsprings.com/index.php?page=item_details&iID=552&dID=136&pID=169These are the ones I used. Just nested them inside each other.
>>65223802Good luck, Anon! Is this your first handgun?
>>65223741How did you get yours off? I don't know how you do it without mangling it. We're talking about removing the +5 right?
Beretta 92 frens, are the reduced weight hammer springs worth getting or is it a meme?I wouldn't say the trigger pulls are heavy with the stock spring, but is there any advantage to a lighter spring besides a lighter pull?
>>65223992The only advantage is a lighter trigger pull. Some people go to 12 pounds for competition, but I wouldn't go below 13 for carry. Lower weight risks light primer strikes.
>>65224002As an aside, I've had good luck with a 12#er while using a reduced power Firing Pin Return Spring
>>65223992The SA doesn’t need it but it makes the DA easier. DA to SA will ALWAYS be hard and something you will always grapple with, having a lighter DA makes that easier.
>>65223707Damn, that's clever.
Where do you buy your cases for guns? eBay isn't showing me any for some of mine. Conversely, what's the best way to store them to prevent rust?
>>65224066What kind of case? Old factory cases or Pelican cases or what?>store to prevent rustNOT in a case lol
>>65224066Easy buy oil barrel fill to the brim with clp, take gun, get big plastic bag, place in the bag, fill bag with desiccants, vacuum seal bag, submerge bag in barrel, now take a shipping container, place barrel in container, fill container with concrete through hole in top with barrel in the center, place shipping container in desert
>>65224076>What kind of case?The box it would have come in if I went back in time and bought it new. Usually I try to buy guns with the box AND manual but these last few were just the gun and mag. I remember someone posting a thing a few threads back where they had almost like a box that had all their handguns in it facing forward>>65224099Anything a little bit more practical?
>>65224108Buddy if that aint practical then you aint ready for a gun
>>65224108The only time I've had rust on my guns in storage was when they were in contact with foamBut I'm in an average humidity area
>>65223766????
>>65224066Used Pelican laptop cases when they get wholesaled
>>65222751Curious myself as I'm getting a gentleman's gun soon (pocket pistol). I figure for the same price I can get an LCP Max with proven pedigree, but the pr3at looks very cyberpunk. Will get one someday.
>>65224108eBay and Gunbroker is pretty much it, but you can find a LOT on there. Never the original serial number of course. Brand enthusiast forums can also have a great source of factory boxes, especially the S&W and Walther forums. There are boomer hoards the likes of which you can't imagine and as they near death's door they want to sell sell sellI use ArmoryRacks for storage but you can get chinese ones on ebay now for less than half the price
>>65224108I’m the same and for the couple I bought without a box/manual I eventually found them on eBay for a cheap price. But these were for older Sigs which aren’t that scarce.
>>65224212Thanks man. I'll definitely poke around some boomer forums (I have a boomer gun I want to sell anyway). I think my greatest fear is that as my collection grows, I won't have enough time to shoot all my guns and the neglected guns will get rusty (even if I use Lube's Gold Guard)
I'm curious. If you guys were to start over all again knowing what you know now and were limited to 3 handguns... a carry, duty/HD and range toy/extra pistol... what would you choose?
>>65224282vp9cc, vp9a1L, mark 23
>>65224232Gold Guard will preserve them, I can't imagine even salty air being a problem as long as every external surface is coated, including under wood stocks.I try to rotate through everything over maybe a 5 year span. Normally I don't clean anything until it malfunctions, but any of the blued or collectable guns I take out to shoot I give a wipedown and fresh oil for the shelf.>>65224282A Bodyguard 2.0 or maybe Ruger LCP MaxAny mid tier or higher 2011, comped, 9mm. Probably a Kimber 2K11One of a select few .22s. It'd be hard to decide between something super accurate but low volume and potentially finicky like a GSP or something utterly reliable, high capacity and endlessly spammable but loose like a TX22Why would I be limited to 3 handguns though? That sounds like a living nightmare.
>>65224282>CarryPX4 Compact>Duty/HD .45 2011 of my own make >Range Toy/Extra PistolSVI Infinity or other 2011 with their slide allowing for breechface swaps allowing me to shoot any caliber as Burt says, I'd probably kill myself if I was limited to 3
>>65224282Using just the guns in my budget?Carry:>PX4 Compact Gen 2Home Defense:>Glock 19 with an Aimpoint and suppressorRange toy:>6" Colt Python or 8.5" S&W Model 29
>>65224298Have to put some constraints somewhere. Nightmare that may be. I have some extra keepers myself but thinking of "if I could have only 3" what would I prioritize. For me, I never should have sold my P226. It just works for me.
>>65224324I've only ever sold one gun and I regretted it and lucky I got it back. I recently received a gun that I don't really want and it's too nice to shoot but I think it would be up some boomer's alley. I might post it on the Smith forums or just throw it up on GunBroker and see what I can get for it
>>65224282>Glock 19C>Staccato HD 4.5>4.75” Colt Single Action Army in 45
>>65224282Glock 19, some sort of Atlas 2011, and a Ruger Mk IV.
>>65224305I really need to get my hands on a PX4 compact carry. I need to see if one of the big indoor ranges around here rents them.
Look who came out of commiefornia DROS hell. I love it. Shot 400 rounds, zero jams, even with Glock pmags. I love it.>inb4 why a $30 fake X300 clone on nearly a $3k Staccato Because I can and Surefire can eat a dick if they are thinking I'm paying $300 for a flashlight with some rails on it. I'm not paying government contract bucks for what amounts to some aluminum, a switch and an LED.
>>65224066I don’t use cases. I have one tiny pelican but it’s just for one gun and two spare mags.
>>65224343What about paying 400 for something they promptly discontinue since it fucking sucks
Imagine the peace in the world if the 92FS, CZ-75 and Sig p226 all took the same mags
>>65224149Hold one first.
>>65224282Glock 43, glock 17, usp .45.
>>65224351theyre the Xbox, Playstation, and Nintendo of the gun worldit's just how the world works
>>65224305>file deleted Gay.
>>65224309Nice range toys. I need a revolver again.
>>65224343Should have got a streamlight.
Just finished installing a miller precision grip. They’re great. Self contained trigger return spring so you can have a very positive reset without having tune the sear springs. Also available in the 120mm size for better concealment. They’re also super thin.
>>65224375Makes the grip width very similar to a 1911.
>>65224362I may get a TLR-1 down the road but I like these chinkshit clone lights since cheap and at least the listing I bought from, they've been holding up miraculously well. I have one in a dark earth brown on my G19 and it has over 1k rounds while on it. No issues. I will say that I had one of these broke on me but it was a lower quality clone I got for like $10 on aliexpress and I bought that 4 years ago These clones have gotten better in quality, at least for the PCB and overall dimensions. It is it fake? Yes, but it also does its job good
>>65219756It is because we allowed women to pretend to be cops. They cant have gender based training so everyone is a murderous pussy now. I tell these faggots all the time if you think that badge makes you a Man, just remember Sheila is over there doing your job and likely to promote faster.
Made good progress on my conversion from 1911 to 2011. Just need to cut the frame dust cover
>>65221421That's the thing though. The poles make fine guns but they're not spectacular. Why is a VIS100 $900? It's not better than an M9.
>>65221508The black one is gone yes, but I know Atlantic firearms and arms of America still have some cerakote options in stock. I kinda like the eastern bloc green option but I still can't get over the price.
>>65222288Colt fascinates me from a business point of view. every fifty or so years they make a product that defined a generation before they go back to making absolute dog shit.>1870's - SAA revolver >1910's - m1911>1960's - m16How do they keep stumbling into success?
Bloody hell, I can't decide between the px4 full size or the 92x performance, i know that one is nearly half the cost of the other and getting a delta point mount on the px4 is a pain, but I just can't decide.Same thing about whenever picking the perfromance is a right choice or if I should take a lighter 92x version
>>65224521>m16armalite
>>65224591Don't be dense the M16 was a distinct colt project which was more than just a scaled down AR10. Armalite designed the AR15 but they only made a few before selling the project to Colt in '59. And I doubt the M16 would've ever been a thing had Colt not been involved, Armalite never managed get the military interested in it. I would also add the M4 to his list, it's had just as much if not more of a generational impact as the M16.
>>65224510Its priced and in quantities that imply an astroturfed collectability aspect. Boomers love speculating on new production European guns for some reason, when I brought my Stribog out once for range blasting since I got it for 750 bucks I had to listen to one of the boomer employees at check in/out about how he was hoping he could flip his for a couple grand in a few years. Makes me think of the sad sacks getting into children's cards thinking they can make a good income on flipping the cards.
>>65224614>never managed get the military interestedThe military solicited ArmaLite in the first place when General Willard Wyman (CONARC) approached Eugene Stoner about Small Calibre High Velocity being conducted by the Army Infantry Board.>only made a few before selling the project to Colt in '59Licensing firearms was part of their business model which is why the actual AR-10 production was by Artillerie-Inrichtingen (Netherlands). Even much of the AR-18 proliferation was in Great Britain (Sterling Armaments) and Nippon (Howa).>would also add the M4 to his listKek, are you a Colt rep? What set the M4 (Colt 920) apart from the Colt 723 and carbine AR-15's of decades prior were the optics and accessories most of which were not the result of Colt R&D.
>>65224580"Bloody hell"? Why do you have to buy one of those?
Na, trink erst mal einen auf meinen!
>>65224871Coltshill BTFO
>>65224871Hi pasty!
>>65224871The post said make a product you sperg, they submitted TEN rifles in 1958 ONE year before they sold the whole thing to Colt. Clearly they wouldn't have done that if the military was interested in it. He also said defined a generation, the M4 absolutely did when someone thinks of GWOT they don't think of an A4. Are you like a nigger that can't do hypotheticals? You have to realize that I'm saying the M4 is the best thing ever or that Colt are gods, simply that they are responsible for two iconic firearms.>>65225026I don't own a single Colt and I did eat breakfast.
>>65225092>You have to realize that I'm saying the M4 is the best thing everAgreed.
>>65219378The queen of horse cum
>>65225131>Google replace all the weapons in the cases behind this woman with jars of thick offwhite liquid and put horse images on the jars
>>65224451DIWhy
>>65225148>>65225131context?
stupid M9. I'm going to clean you.
>>65225163More bullets
>>65225167Glock has invested in horse farms and they arent doing it for glue.
>>65225247They make glue from horse cum?
>>65225277They make race horses with it that can earn millions
stupid M9 I'm going to clean you!
>>65224351i thought they do
>>65224451You should try to do this one following the parabola of the slide cuts. Plus then it will have knives like Taran Butler sayshttps://youtu.be/LpAk1lzcIh4?si=DN88R8eMya5_iUXW&t=145
>>65225321Are you sure that will help them sell more guns?
>>65223988I think I just used something thin to compress the spring from the rear up towards the follower to get the back of the plate off.
>>65225365I’m going to do this again so I can retain the front rail slot
>>65225391Then at least mirror the cut so it looks like a
>>65225447I’m not as talented but that might actually be sick if I get the slide scallop/recoil spring tunnel cerakoted or lasered with shark teethBut this is a potential carry gun
>>65225092>they submitted TEN rifles in 1958That's how prototyping works.>sold the whole thing to Colt. Clearly they wouldn't have done that if the military was interestedThe military was so interested in AR-15's that Continental Army Commanded contested the Army Ordnance Department from adopting the T-44 as the M14. Referring to this as a "lack of interest" is a mischaracterisation of events.>He also said defined a generation>can't do hypotheticals?That's a non sequitur but I'm only concerned with correcting the historical record.>>65225051Hello, there's going to be boundaries moving forward now that I've renewed my pledge.
>>65225391be careful px4tan
god damn
>>65225605oh that's even worse
>>65225609yeah probably won't be using DSC gunworks then if he fucking recommends customers to ship through UPS violating UPS policy which means they can just straight up just shred your gun
>>65225605>>65225609This shit got stolen lmao
Why is every handgun $100 more than it was last yearEven the turkshit is $100 moreEveryone wants their welfare $100 for fucking nothing
>>65225637Materials costs. Tariffs. Thank the retard in power.
>>65225637The fact that there are STILL adults who do not understand what inflation is is shocking to me. THE VALUE OF THE DOLLAR HAS BEEN GOING DOWN FOR NEARLY E I G H T Y Y E A R S. IT IS STILL GOING DOWN BEVAUSE THE GOVENRMENT KEEPS P R I N T I N G M O N E Y. IT WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO UNTIL THEY STOP.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflation
>>65225637Zero interest rate policy that's been almost-permanently in place since QE1. Retards like this guy >>65225649 blame the wrong things. Look at any asset price. Precious metals, real estate, cost of education, equities, anything, they've been rocketing since QE1 (and QE4).
>>65225660>material costs are higher, the retard who blamed material costs is a retardBrilliant.
>>65225658Costs are going up since the hecking orange man is deporting all the valuable workers in America
>>65224375Holy shit this looks so much better than that polymer grip that assaulted my eyes
>>65224874I tried to remove all the others that have serious issues that I don't want to deal with, where I am getting a beretta is easier so
>>65225674The raw materials costs of a fucking steel and plastic gun constitute a vanishingly small portion of its manufacturing cost. You're essentially arguing that the price of silicon sand is driving up RAM prices.Shut the fuck up, you retarded nigger. You're very clearly out of your depth.
>>65225683So you're going to tell me that inflation and the global tariffs on steel and aluminum, plus the blanket tariffs placed on Chinese goods have had no impact on the cost of imported (and some domestic) firearms prices? Okay pal.
>>65225682Get something natively optic mount like the 92XP, the Tony systems dovetail mount for the 92XP isn’t bad either if you have an older model. A px4 with a dovetail mount would be haram. While you can also do a frame mount onto the 92XP
>>65225692America should be buying American steel. We can do it. We just overtook Japan to become the 3rd largest producer of steel.
>>65225692I'm going to tell you that those effects are vanishingly small compared to the trillions upon trillions of dollars printed by the Federal Reserve to fund bond measures put forth by the Treasury, which pumps asset prices to the moon. If you had any conception of what a counterfactual is, you'd ask yourself why the price of a college degree has gone up 45% since 2011. You'd ask yourself why the price of a single family home has doubled since 2011. You'd ask yourself why the price of gold has nearly tripled since 2011. Do you think that's all "raw materials" and "tariffs?"Do you think that it's Trump's tariffs in 2025 driving up college prices in 2011? Do you think it's Trump's tariffs in 2025 pumping gold prices in 2020? Do you think it's Trump's tariffs in 2025 pumping the S&P500 since 2011? Do you really think that it's the price of raw materials like steel and plastic that are making the price of a college degree go up 50%? Are you a retard?
>>65225680Yeah. It’s so nice. I hate how I can get a more low profile mag release or different trigger lengths but otherwise they make a kick ass grip and trigger system. The trigger has a new return spring so it doesn’t rely on sear spring pressures. Super thin, too thin to use the stock bushings and screws. I’m probably going to buy more. I hate how it has an angled trigger guard and not square though.
>>65225719Tell ChatGPT to leave out the Strawmanning next time, champ.
guys, the orange man's tariffs are making the price of 4140 steel go up from $3.00/lb to $3.35/lb! that means that my gun forged out of three pounds of steel is going to go up $100!oh, but letting in one gorillion immigrants from the third world isn't going to affect the residential real estate market lol
Labor costs in the US have been suppressed for decades due to illegal labor and clever controlled demolition of working class careers. Combine a post illegal labor being acceptable economy with a gorillion dollars printed during covid plus oil uncertainties and consumer goods rise in cost to produce and deliver to customers. We dont produce as many consumer goods as we used to domestically so prices fluctuate more too.
>>65225727>she thinks anyone who actually knows what they're talking about must be "chatgpt"kill yourself, nigger
>>65225731those people are just as american as you or me and they are valuable workers that increase the GDP and per CATO commit less crime than real americans and we should bring in the entirety of india into dallas
>>65225737Tell em, sister! No one is illegal on stolen land!
>IMMIGRANTS IN THE US ARE SOMEHOW AFFECTING THE PRICE OF THIS IMPORTED TURKISH HANDGUN!k
>>65225748you forgot this
>>65225748>immigrants totally don't push down wage growth, stop noticing!Again, you're very obviously out of your depth, here. I guess that's to be expected because you're brown, but still.
>>65222391Could you pretty please take a picture of that guns breechface? For some reason I can't find any head on images of it on Google.
>original poster asks why his turkshit clones are $100 more>say it's because material costs (inflation) and tariffs>Anon gets buttmad and says "actually you're a retard because if we deported all the brownoids we'd all get $10 raises each quarter and then we could buy all the roach guns we could dream of!"
>>65225773Sure thing pal. 92 Brig, 96D Vertec, 96 Brig that’s too much of a pain to disassemble
>>65225784
>>65225775Yeah, see, you were (and are) fucking wrong when you said it's materials costs and tariffs. The price of literally everything has been going up year over year since the Great Recession. That's why agglomerated indices such as the S&P500 or any commodities market are up so much since then. You think that the only cost inputs into your steel and plastic gun are steel and plastic, when in reality, there's much, much more. You're mentally unable (or unwilling) to ask yourself why things such as college educations and real estate prices are up so much, when they're clearly not being driven by materials costs. You're fucking stupid, and worse yet, you accuse everyone who isn't fucking stupid of being AI.
>>65225786In black is a true 92, the other is a 96 with a 92 barrel in it. It sits not flush but works fine IMO. You can buy a dedicated .40 to 9mm barrel to fill the gap from Barsto
>>65225794This is what happens when you're retarded and allowed access to a computer.
>>65222464Im 38 and the change is already upon me, the recoil on my tanfgolio has been so calm that im struggling to see why the feds struggled with it.
>>65225794>You think that the only cost inputs into your steel and plastic gun are steel and plasticNever did I say that. But I'm done speaking with you, chudly. I understand that more cash chasing the same amount of goods = higher prices.
>>65225805for the FBI 10mm, the qual course was nearly 1000-1500 rounds fired in 3 days, their bitch hands + people's shooting techniques weren't as good as they are today since IDPA/USPSA techniques have not filtered down to the rest of the public yet it was probably pretty brutal shooting that many defensive loads in such a short amount of time the top tier guys did it first, passed, and then when the more general agents attempted it they started seeing problems.
>>65225816>I-I'm done speaking with you!Yeah, after getting embarrassed this much, I'd run away, too.
>>65225816Happy pride month!
Good afternoon my fellow American brothers! Well, morning for me even though it's 14:30. I pooped twice, feels good man. Have a blessed day you glorious bastards!
>>65225880Based pooper
>>65225385Must have been pretty thin because I'm not sure how you can get anything in there and depress the spring. I understand what you're saying but mine definitely does not have room for that. Maybe they changed the design over the years?
>>65225880Hey man, thanks! Hope you have a great day too!
>>65225880God bless
>>65225880Afternoon, stranger.
>>65225784>>65225786>>65225795Thanks a bunch, I was wondering if my 92x "brigadier" slide I'm getting in had a 40 sized breechface (so I could do 357/40 conversion) since theres conflicting info on the internet. From the looks of those pictures the 96 breechface where the firing pin protrudes is a bit bigger than the 92, my eyes aren't deceiving me right?
Visited an original Detonics Combat Master gunsmith today. One of my guns he definitely worked on and then tuned up for me. Unfortunately it’s one of the ones I’m selling to some guy, who wanted Peter Dunn to inspect. Peter reinvigorated my love for the Detonics and so I want to buy more now. He recommended I get one of the Georgia guns and possibly the 3rd gen (60 thou more slide travel) as they were the best ones ever made. He recommended getting the Georgia ones marked 9-11-01 on the slide, the score master or service master. Peter Dunn who was the head gun smith at Seattle set up the entire manufacturing line at Georgia. He showed me a trick to bend the ejector inwards so it hits the casing more center to kick it out better. Which one my guns has meaning he definitely tuned it up.>>65226201I doubt it since I’ve never heard of a .40 92X P, as people would be shooting .40 instead of 9mm Major through them for competition. Firing pins are the same.
>>65226258
>>65226258That's very cool, Anon. Well done
>>65226271He identified the batches of frames for each gun and told me all 4 were from good or decent batches. My stainless one with the wood grips was one of the later guns made in Seattle and the best that came out of Seattle.
>>65225805Yeah it still flips a good bit for me but it's such a gentle kerchunk. I'm sticking with steel framed pistols until my good shoulder gives out on me.
>it's another we're going to make a bad ass gun but only make 11 of them episode
>>65226369>single stack 1911>literally just a 1911>almost 10kthis is a joke
>>65226382it's a double stack .45 ACP, you can tell since it has the two piece frame of a 2011. Made by Accuracy X which are disciples of Bob Marvel so they do his extra tight barrel and slide fitting techniques. They obviously by the name specialize in very accurate guns. https://accuracyx.com/custom-1911hicap-pistols/It is crazy they charge 3k more for just a different slide, parts, and grip from other models. It's not like it's anything crazy compared to their standard models.
>>65226258Neat
>>65226059I don't think I believe him, so far you and I are the only ones that have posted pictures of the +5 baseplate and both had the same experience.
>>65219378>kathrin>>65223696>Wonder if SNL will sue her?I now remember Mike Myers before he was banned
>>65226477He also printed off the article about how they shot 30k rounds through the full-size 1911 they were making (score or service master), drop tested it extensively. and literally fired it out of a civil war cannon and it still functioned.
>>65226369Man I like the crazy accuracy guarantees but these boomers are smoking crack on that price. >>65226258Very cool, I would have thought the Georgia ones were lesser than Seattle originals.
>>65226369I’m happy that this product exists, even if it isn’t for me.
>>65226497>Very cool, I would have thought the Georgia ones were lesser than Seattle originals.The Seattle ones had a variance in quality, them originally starting with cut and welded slides, brazed on barrel cones instead of monolithic barrels, bad batches of cast frames, the owners of detonic's not paying bills and invoices to suppliers. Plus the dudes in the basement were using spare/reject parts to make guns and mark them as originals and sell them at the gun show in Puyallup. Peter was the head gunsmith and marked his replacement/repaired slides in a particular way with just DETONICS .45 on them instead of the full combat master rollmark, the guys in the basement were copying his rollmark, so my beat up "parts gun" may have been his work, or the guys in the basement. He also commented that one of my guns was marked 17-4 which was the stainless alloy they used, he said that was one of Detonic's biggest mistakes was telling people what stainless alloy they were using since they were the first company to make a stainless 1911 that worked and did not gall. If they didn't they would have kept it a secret for longer.
>>65226497Also it's the Arizona guns he said don't even bother with.
>>65225658He has a point though, things don't just go up $100 every year. There are plenty of things that haven't gone up much if at all.
>>65226514Would you recommend a Detonics for a first 1911?
>>65226411How come none of these day how many rounds they hold? What is considered hi-cap for 1911?
>>65226480It's such a weird thing to lie about.
Have a few handguns, but not anything easily concealable so I wanted to get a compact (mostly revolvers or full size) I got a shield x 9mm, and I like the way it feels
>>65226514>>65226522Wow this is some great lore>>65226495Not surprising desu>>65226555Not him but I vote yes if you can find a good deal, it was my first 1911. It's just so neat and cute and so unique compared to current offerings on the market.
>>65226555No, they are still very finicky handguns they are cool though, many firsts of the 1911 were done by them>first compact/subcompact 1911 frame, used custom shorter magazines made by a sheet metal company that made airplane parts in Renton/Seattle>first short barrel/slide 1911 (detonic's predates the Colt Officer by a while) >first stainless 1911 that functioned>first bull barrel>first captive recoil spring>first multi recoil spring assembly in a 1911 and I think maybe in handguns as a whole I think. They originally had 3 springs, sometimes 2 springs, but Peter Dunn was adamant that they should have 3. The story of Detonics is interesting. Literally some guy just cutting and welding Colt 1911s until he figured it out how to make a tiny gun and then someone saw it and tried to mass produce it. >>65226568"hi cap" is what people call 2011s that aren't from Staccato/STI/Infinity since those people actually hold the trademark of 2011 (they invented the two piece frame). All the copies have to say "hi cap" "double stack" "2k11" "2311" etc instead of saying 2011 despite them actually being the same 2011 design. for .45 ACP, 11/14 depending on brand of magazine. The STI/checkmate pattern is 11 rounds at a 126mm long mag while MBX sells a 126mm long mag that holds 14. Accuracy X uses the MBX mags.
>>65226658>11/14That's pretty cool. I never knew they made double stack .45 1911's, I only knew about the 9mms. I've come to accept 10 rounds of .45 since that's how many my usp range mags hold. 12 I consider great. Any more than that is extra credit. The same capacity in a 1911 would be sweet.
>>65226687Strayer-Tripp International (STI), widely known as STI International and rebranded as Staccato 2011, is an American firearms manufacturer famous for revolutionizing the 1911 pistol market.Originally founded in 1987 as Tripp Research, the business was renamed Strayer-Tripp International (STI) in 1993 when gunsmith Virgil Tripp and engineer Sandy Strayer partnered. They revolutionized the industry by designing a modular, high-capacity 1911 frame (the 2011 platform).The company branched into two companies, STI and SVI, with SVI focusing on high end bespoke guns while STI was mass production guns. Both companies sold just the frames to custom builders or for DIY 2011s for a time. Strayer-Tripp International became Staccato and SVI Strayer-Vought Inc, rebranded to Infinity.The 2011 can be in any caliber a 1911 was. 9mm, .38 Super, 10mm, .40, .45, .357 Sig, 9x23 Winchester. That was kind of the issue as the same magazine body had to hold all those different rounds. Fitting the tiny 9mm round into that fat .45 double stack mag may be the most issues with the 2011 platform, now the magazines have been figured out but back then they were very finicky. I regret not buying this Wilson Combat Strayer-Tripp frame build.
>>65226687>I never knew they made double stack .45 1911'sAlso. How did you miss my several month project into building several? I built this .45 2011, it's based off my interpretation of what the Les Baer double stack .45s adopted by the FBI should have been with a 2011 frame instead of the Para Ordnance frame. Mine's stainless but I was thinking of having it black nitrided or something.
>>65226705My build, wrong image
>>65226696>widely known as STI International and rebranded as Staccato 2011Ohhhh so that explains where the name Staccato came from. I couldn't figure out why people were so enamored by this new company selling $3k guns. I thought they were out of their minds but now I get it. I've been skipping over this whole conversation but now I'm going to go back and read it all because this is interesting. I'm a casual pistol enjoyer in case that wasn't obvious.
>>65226706You've had this gun since I started posting here. I just got back into handguns since I got a new one recently.
>>65226705Also imo stainless is great. It's clear which parts are dirty so you know what needs to be cleaned.
>>65226708STI had to rebrand since all the companies that they sold 2011 frames to or reversed engineered the 2011 frames and made their own were eating their lunch in 2010s. STIs were mass production guns of a very finicky gun and magazine. Competition shooters did not trust STIs and went with more expensive options. STI rebranded and targeted police contracts with Staccato, police and military flirted with 2011s earlier but never got them reliable enough for service. Delta Force famously tried adopting a .40 S&W 2011, they did not run well. They locked in, fixed the magazine issues with 9mm, refined their manufacturing process with better frames, better machining, and rebranded as Staccato as a premium duty gun. They won contracts, US Marshall adopted them, aggressively demo'd them to police agencies, very aggressive police/retired and veteran discount. They set the standard for 2011s now.
>>65226728>Delta Force famously tried adopting a .40 S&W 2011Didn't hear about that but I know the og delta used 1911s.
>>65226744https://www.forgottenweapons.com/delta-force-sti-2011-competition-meets-operations/
>>65226756Interesting. The 2000's were a weird time.
>>65226744I will forever be pissed that I missed the CMP selling the MARSOC 1911s, what a fucking steal and now they're all five thousand dollars.
>>65226784How much were they going for?
>>65226784Same for the M45s and trial M17s
>>65226803I don't remember exactly, but it was like $800-$1000, crazy cheap for what was essentially a professional armorer built 1911 with awesome provenance.
