It's only a matter of time, really.

I think just using a car to run a group of people over is way easier is why

Nearly all commercial drones track the operator.
Hobbyist/professional military manufactured drones have a high cost and a parts buying trail since most parts are imported from China, meaning most "I have nothing to live for" terrorists just choose to use a gun instead of spending 800 dollars on making a drone and an explosive that may blow up in your face when you launch it or fail to detonate.

Foreign states would probably find it easier to do something like the Ukrainian one but unless you're controlling it via the internet they will track the phone that was near the broadcaster and find you.

>>65220407
>Hobbyist/professional military manufactured drones have a high cost and a parts buying trail since most parts are imported from China
I'm not sure how much faith I have in law enforcement catching this given that we've had Glock auto sears for sale on Alibaba for years now, with God knows how many making it into the country.

no not really. in the US its hard to get explosives of any real consequence and, at the end of the day, building a bomb drone requires a few days of work. retards and schizos would rather buy or steal a gun, load up two mags of green&white and start blasting.

>>65220422
Noone really gives a shit about that om the federal level, not even the ATF.

>>65220384
>US
It's harder to get an RPG warhead than it is to get a working heavy machine gun
>Europe
The warring slav nations are buying them up at prices your average terrorist can't complete with

>>65220384
after the ukie-zigger war there's bound to be former drone aces that will work for the highest bidder. some CEO or political heavy hitter will eat a fiberoptic FPV in the face. or a passenger airplane will get hit while landing. it's just a matter of time.

>>65220473
I agree. And it's not as hard to make these as anons ITT think. You can get pretty much everything you need wal-mart and best buy.
Sooner or later shit's gonna get crazy.

>>65220384
The radio said the NBA game at Madison Square Garden has higher counter-drone security for the game with Trump visiting.
If that will do anything is anyones guess but they do seem to be at least aware its a very real possibility.

>>65220500
Seriously, I can easily see a foreign advisory using this to take out the president.

>>65220473
>>65220484
The bottleneck is the warhead and since weight is at a premium, half-arsed pressure-cooker bombs of tannerite won't cut it.

Though now I'm wondering whether you could make a directional frag mine with 500g of tannerite, an e-match, and some hex nuts, in capped pvc.

>>65220505
>I can easily see a foreign adversary
State actors have actual TOW missiles and such.
It's not really prevention that stops assassinations between states, it's consequences.

A state-backed terrorist would get some good HE at least but it starts a war if you're found out.

>>65220407
>track the operator
How? They communicate to a network that then hits the user? If so this is easily worked around through theft/buying in cash

>>65220524
The point of doing it is that no one knows it was you.

>>65220524
Could The Beast survive a fagot attack? I wouldn't be shocked if it could take a couple.

>>65220384
the delivery method has never been the difficult part
if anything a drone is more obvious than the typical methods people use

>>65220535
>Could The Beast survive a fagot attack? I wouldn't be shocked if it could take a couple.
Depends on where it's hit but it wouldn't have secondaries so it's more survivable than the average tank but I don't see the sides or top armour tanking a HEAT warhead better than an actual tank.
Could it have DU inserts in the panels? Maybe but say 2cm of DU layered with composites will still get penned on any perpendicular hit. You'd need to aim for the passenger though.

>>65220534
>The point of doing it is that no one knows it was you.
It's pretty high stakes to gamble your country's future survival on the NSA/CIA/FBI not uncovering your connection to the plot afterwards.

>>65220512
>Though now I'm wondering whether you could make a directional frag mine with 500g of tannerite
I'm sure you do, glowie. I'm sure you do.

Jokes aside, we might see churka muzzies for hire after the Ukraine war, many could already be from Al'quada or whatever other towelhead group operates in Kavkaz. If they can get their hands on a bomb, eventually we might see the first such attack after the lulzy Maduro one some years ago.
The average terrorist seems to be just a noif-wielding British doctor/engineer or Volkswagen-driving Ahmed. Not someone who can pilot a drone or prevent inbreeding.

>>65220384
Most terror attacks are an exhibitionistic form of suicide; the attack itself is secondary.

>>65220384
It's the same reason explosives are rarely used, the average terrorist is fucking stupid and can't learn how to synthesize explosives or build a drone.

>>65220407
It's pretty cheap and easy to build your own but does require a triple digit IQ.

>>65220505
States don't generally do decapitation strikes but Trump might be one of the few because he commits them.

>>65220529
They have a hardened GPS that tracks where the drone has been powered on, where it has launched from and where it landed.
It isn't linked to a name and adress but if you ever turned it on at home it is linked to GPS coordinates.

>>65220384
are you the type to also be surprised most mass shootings aren't that high-casualty or can you just not understand the people with enough knowledge and skill to do it usually just don't?

>>65220505
Try flying a quadcopter anywhere near a head of state and see how it goes. Have you ever noticed there's not really any drone footage of the president doing anything, even from official sources?
>>65220529
>How? They communicate to a network that then hits the user?
No, he means they literally keep track of where the base station is so they can navigate home. That said, it's probably just easier to triangulate off the radio than it is to intercept and read that information.

>>65220810
>Try flying a quadcopter anywhere near a head of state
The simple way to find out is does the wi-fi work at conferences, if yes then 2.4 GHz isn't jammed and a drone will work.

>>65220384
No reason to, when you can kill and maim dozens for the price of a brainwashed retard and a rental van.

>>65220384
Small but strong enough explosives aren't easy to get

>>65220384
the ukies made a recoilless shotgun drone design that might be more feasible.
i've said it before and now again, someone just has to do the dummy work of making a design and parts manifest thats ready to buy, print, and fly and then you'd see these things being used everywhere.
in other words, build it and they will come.

>>65220384
>Anyone else legitimately surprised these haven't been used in terror attacks in Europe or the US yet?
They're not off the shelf items dude. You have to have the gumption, intelligence, and persistence to do it. And if you have all that you have no problem getting decent employment and making lots of money. If you're some retard schizo then you just go get a gun or a car.

I mean seriously: what does a drone even buy a terrorist? It doesn't cause any more terror then shooting up a place or car bombing or whatever does. Drones make sense in mass swarms, but that's not a poorfag individual endeavor.

Maybe some actual terrorist organization will give it a go at some point though. Load up a ship with them and cruise to some busy area and attack beach goers.

>>65220384
no, use your 2 brain cells.

Jews have been screaming about "Islamic terrorists" who aren't afraid to die and only want to kill us "for our freedoms" and think they will go to heaven, yada, yada.

Muslim have lots of money, and are smarter than Mexicans, and The Border (and even ports) are wide open and tons of shit is smuggled in daily, so they COULD easily do lots of real terror on USA at anytime, but for some funny reason they never do.

King David Hotel, Lavon, USS Liberty, WTC garage, 9/11, etc.

>>65222177
>someone just has to do the dummy work of making a design and parts manifest thats ready to buy, print, and fly
FPV drones are already trivial to put together. Again, that's not the hard part and has never been.

>>65220384
Religious knives and trucks of peace are doing the business well enough

>>65220384
Not really because because the vast majority of terrorist attacks are carried out by shitskins with room temperature IQs.

>>65220505
>t.the only person who has ever thought of this

>>65220566
In addition you'd need to set up a ATGM, fire the ATGM, and survive long enough to guide the ATGM in.

>>65220384
one that drops pipe bombs is more likely imo

>>65222197
>completely unrelated incidents
Is this what mental illness looks like?

>>65220384
Dont jinx it

>>65220750
>a state even attempting this
The JFK assassination had the Soviets absolutely terrified they would get blamed for it, so much so that the KGB gave the FBI all the information that they had on Oswald.

>>65220484
>Sooner or later shit's gonna get crazy.
Drone parts would be controlled no less than machine guns in the year 2046.
Screenshot this psot.

>>65220384
eruopean tanks dont exlopde

>>65220384
Not really. Terror attacks usually happen when the government isn't getting what it wants. For the most part Trump administration is getting what it wants.

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>>65222487
It happens.

>>65222484
motors and batteries?

>>65220384
Its literally just a matter of time
As soon as this war ends you will see HUNDREDS high profile people being killed by drones.
You literally cant realistically do anything about it, since everything enemy needs is some sort of visual confirmation on target and like 10k$ drone with lan cable spool.

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>>65220384
If you can get you hands on some serious munitions(rpg warheads, mortar shells, mines) as a terrorist, you can make a ruckus even without a drone.
If you cant, a drone wont make a difference.

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>>65222567
boomer delusions.

>>65220384
Because the US is seperated from most of its worst adversaries by a giant fucking ocean, and because Europe is not the world's PVP zone yet. For a military tht hates the west it is far cheaper to do shit as close as possible

about a matter of time till israel makes a new 9/11

>>65222277
prove it. go dig one up on odyssee that i could order all the parts for / 3d print the frame tonight and have it and requisite munitions ready to go harass the unmarked police cruisers on the weekend.

>>65220384
Any event with politicians or other important people will have jammers and other anti-drone measures.
If the objective is to just kill a few random people, a regular bomb hidden in a trash can or something (or even just a knife on a tram, a car on a crowd) is going to be easier to organise and about as effective.

>>65220524
The point is that a TOW is much harder to smuggle into the country vs buying a standard drone and then only having to source some HE

>>65222619
>new 9/11
Weird, Israel didn't do the last one.

>>65222773
fiber FPVs then

>>65222197
>arabs are smarter than Mexicans
arabs are as dumb as it gets, you are in full cope mode ahmed

>>65222557
Are they going to ban power tools?

>>65220384
>Anyone else legitimately surprised these haven't been used in terror attacks in Europe or the US yet?

Why ? The usual bomb delivery vehicle here in Sweden is a young swarthoid, an albanian, arab or latin american who delivers the bomb to the targets apartment's or house's front door and then disappears. Due to fuzing problems they occasionally blow themselves up. Also, sometimes they deliver the bomb to the wrong adress and it turns out that there is a "person known by the police" who lives in an apartment at 7B while the swarthoid bombed 7A.

There is absolutely zero need for an expensive air delivery vehicle. If anything, there is a need for better street maps and higher literacy among swarthoid youths. Also, better and safer delayed fuzes.

>>65220473
>or a passenger airplane will get hit while landing.
Probably not. Airports are one of the few places that were already prepared for counterdrone shit before they become common weapons of war.

>>65222177
WELCOME TO MC DONALDS YOU SON OF A BITCH

>>65222704
>and requisite munitions
this would be the hard part I was referring to
people have been building DIY FPV drones for years

>>65220422
Law enforcement only cares if white people buy autosears on Alibaba. Since it's nearly 100% blacks doing it they don't care.

>>65223855
The only people who got prosecuted for this shit in my state were blacks, take that as you will.

>>65222394
It's funny to think the Soviets were more cognizant of their abilities during a time where the US thought it was on the backfoot in the arms race than Russia is today.

>>65223855
>>65223863
Yeah, just because you don't hear about it in the news, doesn't mean Afro-Americans don't get disappeared in the triple digits each month for doing illegal things.

>>65220384
It's just easier to get a knife

>>65220384
>Israel getting ass pounded
>No terrorists attacks in Europe
>....

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>>65223499
>albeit some require you to study the way of the missile and figure it out yourself but the science is freely out there.
If Konrad Haas could figure out multi-stage rockets in 1560, what excuse does the modern missileer have for not managing at least the same?

>>65220384
Sourcing explosives is the main issue

>>65223567
stop recognizing patterns goy

>>65220622
Ease it with slavspeak, broberg.

>>65223567
We get it, your crackhead mommy let the rabbis pass your tight young ass around for another hit, and we're sorry that happened to you.
>>65223925
White people getting caught doing it is newsworthy. Browns getting caught is a Thursday.

drones are only cheap in the context of a State and mass production, for an individual it's not that cheap and the damaged each drone can do is pretty limited

>>65223536
>Due to fuzing problems they occasionally blow themselves up.
That reminds me
> Russia, 2010-12-31
> some retards built an IED to blow up in central Moscow in the evening
> the fuze is wired up to a cell phone vibration motor so that it can be triggered remotely with an incoming call
> Cell operator spams everyone with "Happy New Year!" in an SMS
> bomb goes up while retards still sit next to it in their apartment

>>65220384
Sure, good idea. Do you really want a million Americans open carrying shotguns? Because this is how you get it.

>>65220384
browns are dumb

>>65220407
> Hobbyist drones have a high cost
Let's build a 5 incher! Payload capacity approx 1 kilo, which can be used to deliver any number of antipersonnel frag charges against massed unarmored threats (bunch o' clueless civvies thinking that prop noise is someone filming)
You need: props; frame, a 45A AIO or a stack, 4 motors, radio tx, vtx/vrx (if you want to fly fpv), and a 4S lipo. Including the radio, Drone flyaway cost is $200, the radio is $100, fpv kit is $200 more.
In any modeling store, you won't be raising flags buying a kit to create a drone, neither would you if you bought from china.
If you access manufacturing gear, (3d printer or a cnc mill), the costs are way cheaper, since you can print the frame, and the props, all you need is the electronics and motors.
If you want to build a drone with a larger payload capacity, the price scales approximately linearly with the destructive power.
If you want range, you need fixed wings.
If you want to control your drone from several klicks away, you need a triple-digit IQ to figure out radio gear. Or you can do a burner phone, but your typical target areas will have shitty reception on commercial phone bands.

Commercial drones have a tracking module (similarly to a squawk code), and have shit radios that won't allow you to fly BVR.

A drone is inherently unstable, flying fpv is not easy, especially if you need to fly over a crowded territory (ie. in a city) or when adverse powers are running EMI. To hold your drone steady, and not crash at your first turn in an open field, you typically need 10 hours in a sim.

tl;dr: Yor typical asshat considering a drone mission is a mid-high-IQ psychopath who kills for fun. Not your room temp IQ terrorist

>>65222484
They're already trying.

>>65225732

We had a similar case in Sweden ten years ago, some swarthoids were going to bomb some other swarthoids resturant, they used a remote garage opener as the trigger device and electromagnetic interference set off the bomb in their apartment to their and their neighbours great surprise. IIRC the police deduced they were part of a protection racket, the string of resturant explosions in the regional town they lived in ceased after they got blown up.

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if it happens its to try and push a ban on fpvs