With Kung Fu moves
>>65224768>you see with this move I learned from playing Elden Ring you can dodge anything, even bullets.
>>65224768They do realize that the real drones explode?
>>65224768RMAO
>>65224774Didn't some dude evade a hitman shooting at him point blank by doing dark souls rolls?
>>65224778>Erm, soldiers usually die, heh!Oh okay so just don't train them.
>>65224768But what if it explodes instead of bouncing off the ground
>>65224778do they realize they won't know the timing of the attack beforehand and won't be just replaying a choreographed and established pattern?
>>65224768So more performance bullshit
>>65224768did they learn it from all those videos of Russians getting killed trying to hide behind a tree?
>>65224768Americans are too fat to dodge roll
>>65224774This. Just use your i-frames, equip the right talismans and drones are basically a non-issue.
>>65224778The real drones also are trying to hit you not predictably dive in a spot too.
>>65224795Don't knock it without understanding the affect and intention of the exercise. It trains aggression in the face of drones, and makes the soldier feel like they know what to do when a drone appears.The marines do the same thing with bayonet training.
>>65224768implessive
Chinks are retarded, what else is new
>>65224810bayonet training has applications besides the agressive mindset training, even in today's war we've seen hand to hand combat, close range combat is very common in trenches and interiors so you never know when it will be needed
how do we close the rollslop gap?
>>65224823Equip every soldier with the Carthus Bloodring
>>65224789>it's fine to train them wrong Actual third world mindset.
>>65224768I wish they didn't cam that 2 story building, it is amost impossible to recognize.
>>65224768>just carry a pole and hide behind itgenius!
>>65224768Wakaliwood really were just ahead of the game huh?
>>65224768Actually looking at FPV drone vids "strafing" is unironically best evade tactics. Especially if run around some object like pole or tree.Things to notice1. Never fall on the ground, roll, dive etc, bad. It stops mobility, this is what drone operator wants, stationary target. Awkward but continuous limping is better than best roll. Drone operator will just turn around and reengage.2. Shotting at drones good. It gives operator feel of urgency and prevents drone form hovering at convenient position, aiming for final lounge. Don't fire all rounds and leave yourself without ammo. Do steady, pointing aim, semi auto every two seconds if drone is clother than 100 feet. It forces drone operator to close distnace fast and make a mistake. When drone aproaches to strike start jogging perpendicular to it's course.Of course drone still able to kill target despite all of that but it's give soldier best chances to survive.
>>65224851Nigga the drone can hit the pole or tree and you're still fucked or it can literally drop perpendicular on you
>>65224841I'm no communist bugman lover, but how do you train a soldier "correctly" in this situation, when a tiny explosive robot is flying at him at the speed of a jetski?
>>65224851>. Don't fire all rounds and leave yourself without ammo. Do steady, pointing aim, semi auto every two seconds if drone is clother than 100 feeShould be noted that is the advice for solo defense against singular FPV drone.When you engage drone to shoot it down, as group of solders defending against drone, or shoot drone that hovers, or flies it's course somewhere else. Then volume of fire is a king. Don't expect to be able to aim and hit drones accurately. You just need to fire more. Fire in bursts and often, then reload and fire more. Don't fire much is for solo defense, you don't want to end with empty magazine and FPV drone near you, you wouldn't be able to reload and when you are defenseless drone will move in for sure kill.
>>65224861You have better chance of survival if drone hits pole, or ground 10 feet away than if it hits your chest. If course not so applicable for Russians because their wounded are supposed to Isekai instead of medivac.
>>65224862Some kind of paintball paint charge that represents a fragmentation kill.
>>65224791You just described China as a whole
>>65224768In their defense whatever they're doing is better than waiting for their doom
>>65224768now make him do it with plates & ammo, grenades, backpack etc. ie a full fucking kit and not just clothes and a rifle.
>>65224884Better than zilch, yeah>>65224768Just like my capeshitThe world is full of crouching tigers and hidden dragons
>>65224862they should be training to shoot them down with their rifle, it's the only reliable method we have at this point, clay shooting training would be better training than this.
>>65224768
>>65224807>We need to ripoff our boys one last time even as we send them off to die pointlessly
>>65224807>With this talisman I can tank drones to the face.
>>65224810That's just as stupid as cunfu chinks. American soldiers are trash and the good part is air and naval power.
>>65224768What's so hard? It's just ˅ ˅ A then directional stick in the opposing direction. ˅ ˅ X if you're some Sony faggot.
>>65224768even though this is obviously just a show to look cool, i swear if i spun around that pole just 3 times i'd be wicked dizzy. Kinda crazy how you just hit an age all of a sudden wherein you can't even just stand and turn without getting a little dizzy
>>65224949What the fuck am I watchingThis would actually make it easier for drones to hit their target since they don't travel in a parabolic arc
>>65224768now try that with shrapnel in your ass, chang
>>65224949
>>65224949This is why drone opfor teams are necessary for training now.
>>65224923even just doing it in a vr game setting will train the mind
>>65224949while you were playing video games... I trained on the playground
>>65224862Take them skeet shooting. It's not quite the same but it's good practice for hitting a small moving target.
>>65224949Why would the drone travel up again , instead of just hitting the ground?
>>65225102They won't, it's more conditioning to dodge when a drone comes at you. Sometimes it works and buys a man a few more seconds of life.
>>65225120I'm pretty sure FPV operators are trained to try to hit your legs or the ground right next to you.
>>65225130True, it also doesn't do shit against grenade drops or drone-observed mortars. It's really a CYA op because someone up the food chain saw a vid of a drone hitting a dude in the face. At least it doesn't look as bad on camera.
>>65224768why did they camo the whole building, looks hideous
>>65224768More like training them to think they can survive being droned so that they will go to war with confidence instead of overpowering existential.dread. At least half of infantry training is pretending you will be among the 5% who doesn't get smoked by the horrors modern weaponry in your first contact with it.
>>65224821There has not been a single instance of bayonet fighting in Ukraine.
>>65225652Well there is that one brutal melee fight video but you're right, no bayonet was used in that one
>>65224802to be fair the ones trying to hide behind trees always seem to give the drones the most trouble, almost never successfully but still.
>>65224768Implessive!!
>>65224861>the drone can hit the pole or tree and you're still fucked or it can literally drop perpendicular on youmodern ones dont even need to hit anything, the can be command detonated in mid-air with the push of a button
>>65224963you can say what you want but American soldiers/marines do have way more combat experience than the Chinese. American cops have more combat experience than Chinkoids lol
>>65225652there is a chance, as little as it may be, that someone has been killed by a Mosin bayonet. Not even joking
>>65225619>5%Only if your commanding officers are incompentent. Good tactics and support can neutralize many of the dangers out there.
>>65224957Hey, it has happened once. You never know.
>>65224949>we trained them wrong as a joke
and he's full of shrapnel despite it missing him regardless of his movement
>>65224806I think we would roll nicely, being round and all
>>65224788yeah but most people don't have a bonfire to restore from when they fail training their rolls.
>>65225652Not everything has been caught on video retard. Also, dead men tell no tales, so whos to say it hasn't happened.
>>65225652There was one infamous b'itish moment that was so ridiculous people thought it had to be staged until drone footage and other corroborating evidence came out. Also I remember one video of a ukie pummeling a zigger with a rifle stock.
>>65224963Weak bait, Anon.
I'd start issuing taurus judges with bird shot. They pattern like shit(which may help), and the morale boost will be enough to justify the cost. Never mind you're fucked if you're trying to shoot an fpv on attack approach with your handgun....
>>65226523Scratch that, one of these.
>>65226496Post both, you can't just mention kino without posting it.
>>65224844What building?
>>65224810From left: Major Damage, Lt Computer Damage, 2Eminem, Major Laughs, Lt Lank, 'The Ork' (on special release), Private Parts (Buttseks commando), Norm, Captain Awesome.
>>65224923I like how this war decided we weren't putting enough plastic in the environment
>>65225102Have you not seen drone footage of ukies harassing ruskies?
>>65224774>>65224778there's a video of a rusich guy doing a dark souls roll and surviving because the drone ends up missing and exploding in the dirt a couple yards away. doing the roll kept him out of (most of) the shrapnel cone
>>65224862>how do you train a soldier "correctly" in this situationBend over and pray for a dud. Literally more effective than trying to hide behind a fucking pole or dodge roll the thing
>>65225753>American cops have more combat experience than Chinkoids lolDepending on the city some american cops have more experience than nazis after 4 years on the russian front.
>>65227364Your average american cop faces an opponent much more intelligent than some slavic zerg troop
>>65226483>Amphibi-lada
>>65226461I take back every negative thing I thought about the training in OP.
>>65226523I was thinking that the other day and then remembered, by the time a drone is in 410 pistol range, you're also probably in the frag cloud for some types of drones as well.Shit's so damn lethal now that its all a combination of detection range, effective engagement and obscuring your movements more than it ever was... oh and luck! Being a lucky motherfucker is downright vital.
>>65227378you'd rather face a Ukrainian drone team than an 80iq nig?
>>65224789Bad training is worse than no training. There are a number of highly effective countermeasures to drones, and while I haven't seen field testing of whatever that is supposed to be, it's almost certainly far more effective. The big thing that is available to very low tech militaries like China is just shooting them. >>65224810The substantive difference is if you for some reason have your knife on your gun, and are that close to a guy, stabbing him is very effective. Dodge rolls however, are not, and there are any number of more effective things you could be doing with your time.>>65225652Actually we've seen two people killed with bayonets that we know of, now admittedly they weren't attached to the rifle, but this sort of thing does happen still. I'm sure I don't have to explain to you all the ways someone might end up within a few feet of someone else in a war. >>65225619No, most of training is using equipment, acclimating people to the use of enemy equipment, maintaining cohesion, and weeding out people that would be a liability. Now I'm not familiar with Chinas training regiment, but we don't even have 5% casualties. The Ukraine war so far has 15k Casualties including civilians on both sides according to the UN's figures. The Ukraine reports having 900k active military personnel. Now lets assume that they have 8 guys supporting every guy in a combat role that's actually likely to get hurt, and you're only looking at 4% casualties if we assume a even distribution across branches, and only people in combat roles are getting hurt. Modern war is actually quite safe. Even before then those very high casualty figures are more from disease, supplies, and sanitation than people actually being killed by cannons. We don't have soldiers catching a exotic disease in a foreign land, or dying of dysentery nearly as often these days.
>>65227429You'd be crazy to think that bayonets ever get used these days. Doubly so if you think real life knife stabs are instant kills, like in Call of Duty. It's far better to shoot someone. Bayonet training is good for training aggression, though. It keeps morale up when a soldier is low on ammo, too.Likewise, it's good to get soldiers some face time with FPV drones. They need to experience such a potentially scary thing in a controlled environment. It helps them keep morale when facing them for real.
>>65224841post your correct training regimen.
>>65227442There was a knife fight in Ukraine. In the end the white guy said it hurts and he wants to be left alone to die. The Sami type Russian agreed, walked away then threw a grenade at him
>>65227459Wow. One whole knife fight, huh? Damn, that's crazy.
>>65225019Can you stand on one leg (either one) and dry your hair with a towel without falling over?If not I'd be concerned about paraplastic anemia.
>>65224808>>65227295>>65224778>>65224768So what happens when you take a VT fuse from a missile and apply the same principle to an exploding drone? Seems easy enough to rig a proximity explosive so no amount of close dodging would do shit-all.
The US should pay Drone racers/Freestyle pros to harrass soldiers in training exercises with FPVs. Have them drop flashbangs on top of clumped together guys to give them the lesson about modern drone warfare for example.
>>65227429I've seen it in a few western countries but it seems like the new western infantry doctrine for drones is that your SAW gunner is now your anti drone guy and unless is needed to suppress an area is looking around in the sky for drones to shoot.
a racing drones going 200kmh isnt going to carry a large explosive warhead nor have good endurance, a diving drone like the lanjeet will have a predictable path in the ascent, the small fpvs with granedes are the real threats because they are very manueverable and still go at 50+kmh
>>65224807kek. Who would be the Saint of Anti Drone Warfare?
>>65227604The bigger racing/freestyle drones with beefy motors that can go that fast often can carry a good amount of weight, meaning they'll be going maybe half the speed but you could have a nasty surprise strapped to them like an RPG warhead.
>>65227416forests could be covered with nets. in open terrain you're fucked unless you have interceptor drones or some other defense system covering you. even if you can manually shoot down a few drones, they're cheap and only one needs to get through.
>>65224807This is actually africa tier. They even believe in magical charms.
>>65224807this can't be real right? Why else is it in English
>>65227645Anon you retard, the text has clearly been translated and re-added to the image
>>65227645
>>65227671>>65227762where's the original. Translating and editing the real image is cringe
>>65227640The practice of numerology, folk charms and quasi-religious horse shit has been a part of Russian culture for a fucking long time. Communism might had put a damper on it as not being exactly a sanctioned activity to lead your life by, but it never really stopped it either.You want a real lulzRussians are now consulting numbers and numerology experts to plan their air trips because no one can predict when the airport will be closed due to drones!
>>65227769This is an english speaking board. I'm in a good mood so I'll spoonfeed you.
>>65227359you can pray for a dud while darksouls rollingI would rather die doing something stupid then die doing nothing at all
>>65226288yeah but it LOOKED implessive which is the most important thing
>>65224949the fact that someone who is in a leadership position came up with this sums up why the world is so fucked
I remember when I learned how to avoid a car ramming incident as a pedestrian is to move at the last possible moment to make the driver commit to a linear direction.
>>65227457Just look up Garand Thumb's drone evasion videos, which are instructed by Ukraine veterans. You mostly want signature reduction, like thermal blocking blankets and uniforms.
Typical military copium multipled by turld-world smoke & mirrors. Real pilots fly in a different way lmao, they'll just target the ground around the feet and kill the retard through the explosion.
>>65227600Better idea. Have drone racers train a US drone corps and, as part of their training, have the drone corps harass infantry in training.
>>65227769>Translating and editing the real image is cringeMy retarded friend, it's not done by hand, tools like Google Translate do "text in image" translation automatically.
>>65227442I'm not crazy, it has happened, and will continue to happen. So long as both sides are deploying infantry, people are going to stumble upon one another. Everyone runs away if they run out of ammo these days. Soldiers should be taught to do things that work. Shooting drones works. >>65227604Here is a video of a guy literally shooting a drone. People have been doing this shit for fun in America; for decades. >>65227852How about you try shooting it, this isn't the 60s they give their soldiers guns, and bullets now.
>>65227593VT works fine against air target because there's nothing in the air but the target to trigger the proximity sensor.Against a human target in a wooded area? Not so good because the trees will trigger the sensor before the meat bag does.You may want remote command detonation instead.
>>65228337"Large" by fpv hobby standards is like a 10 inch drone.
>>65227818now this is more funny since it's the real deal lmao
>>65227425an average zig conscript doesn't survive facing the former to gain any experience besides listening to scary stories about them in the 10 day boot camp.
>>65228390*Lion King theme intensifies*
>>65228205>How about you try shooting itI assume he was showing an attempt to shoot the drone while maneuvering behind the pole
>>65224768Iframes aren't real. Ladders are.
>>65224807
>>65224768What kind of fucking strip club is this?
>>65224957
>>65228675>WITNESS ME!
>>65228575>>65228675>no tree or pole to get behindthey never had a chance
>>65224807>Cream of the Sloping Apostles
>>65228575Should have tried diving towards the drone
>>65228675I’M THE ZIGGERNAUT, BITCH!
>>65224768>I'll try spinning, that's a good trick
>>65224768Vely impleassive. Vely ching khu lung
>>65229160Is he ok?
>>65224813It is.>>65227604
>>65229194he performed the chinese "dronuh rolloo." He is alive and recovering in the same st. petersberg hospital as mojtaba khamenei.
>>65229187I think there weren't enough cuts in the video, I almost could understand what was happening in the video
>>65228575Was his arm already mangled? Anyway, he fucked up his input and went the wrong direction, not that it would have helped.
>>65224778
>>65228575There's a video of a guy walking up to a line of barbed wire hidden behind a trench line and just sitting down after seeing it. A minute later a drone comes in and kills him
>>65228369What about thermal proximity fuzes?
>>65226532
>>65228369Anon, the proxy fuse has been a thing since WWII, there are now radio frequency fuses, optical fuses, thermal fuses, pressure fuses and even audio fuses that look for a specific sound.
>>65228675He was stacking leather belts, it's pay to win trash
>>65224768What happens when its not a temu-based system and it has a proximity fuse, you know like in the 40s.
>>65224778Explode, produce shrapnel and there's always more than one hanging around
