why did these dudes get all dressed up in their Sunday best to hit each other with flails?
>>65226773Because people weren't pajama wearing slovenly shitlord degenerates and gave a shit about their appearance, even when they were just planning to bash some dudes skull in.
>>65226773Looks like a legal issue. Trial by combat was a legal matter to settle serious disputes. You would certainly wear nice clothes if you’re possibly going to die, especially if it’s in front of the town.
>>65226773>>65227153Yeah, you wouldn't want people to have to dress you up after you died, especially while your face is possibly smashed in.
>>65226773Do you not get dressed up before going to kill someone?>that's why no one will remember your name
Because it looked awesome
>>65226773i'm pretty sure this is from a dueling manuscript. it would be written for rich people, thus it depicts rich people fighting.
>>65227259the slashes in their top layers are a way to get around sumptuary laws limiting what commoners were allowed to wear, mostly regarding colorful clothing. most landsknechts were commoners.
>>65226773>showing up to the flailing looking like a serfyou get zero wenches
>>65227264Wouldn't the ones wealthy enough to do the slashed clothing bit be closer to the proto-middle class? I don't think it's incorrect to consider them a type of merchant, albeit a merchant that peddles their fighting skills.
>>65226773That was just the normal fashion of the day.>>65227259This.>>65227264Landsknechte were exempt from sumptuary laws as per the Imperial Diet of Augsburg, 1503. And as many petty nobles served in the Landsknecht armies as officers the fashion spread.
>>65226773Going clubbing you get dressed up
>>65226773Why, do you not?
>>65226773Dude, flails didn't exist. Your picture is a 19th century forgery. t. redditor.
>>65227506The short-hafted type most often depicted in media was. The long-hafted type shown in the OP's pic most certainly did exist and were basically peasant grain flails adapted for war by sicking some spikes or studs on the head.
The idea that both sides will become exhausted from wielding cumbersome weapons, thus avoiding a fatal blow, seems like a pretty good choice.
>>65226773They're just casual everyday clothing as worn by the European medieval upper class. Men's fashion used to be a lot cooler before the bongs ruined it 200 years ago and decided that everyone had to dress in plain and boring dark coats.
>>65227551>The short-hafted type most often depicted in media wasEven that's a meme. Short-hafted one-hand flails used commonly used in Central/Eastern Europe and Asia with many archaeological finds. It's only in Western/Southern Europe where they were less common and mainly show up in artwork.
>>65227551Imagine having your ass slapped by that?
>>65227650
>>65227551Pretty sure the military flail was essentially a Tacticool weapon. It existed even though it was stupid simply because you can't stop idiots from buying cool-looking shit.
>>65226773Man has to look his best on the day he's burried.
>>65227663What was he trying to achieve?
>>65227935No
>>65228083Why?
>>65227935>even hundreds of years ago people loved tacticool shitI love seeing how even with thousands of years, humanity never changes.>Pompeii having a message board with dudebros, dick size jokes, and "call this wench for a good time" messages>ancient Sumerian tablets that are just a 1 star review of a copper salesman>that one instance of Roman officers shitposting
>>65227506Some of those pictures are literally fanfic tier and silly theory crafting for fun. Imagine taking 21th media at face value and arguing that gun kata was the real thing. You are the equivalent to 2300s retards that will argue that fast dashing was the real tactic used in combat, after all, if it was not real, why so many primary sources mention the same requirements required for successful teleport?>nothin personnel kid
>>65226773because renaissance europe had a massive "face culture" and how you presented yourself mattered a lot.
>>65228094The only thing that's changed is that soldiers are issued equipment rather than buying whatever they want. But yeah, people gonna people.
>>65227935The hussites had success with it, striking down at attackers from their wagon forts. It works very well in that context... and not very well otherwise. But a peasant who has no other weapon might prefer it to his kitchen knife or hand axe when it comes to unexpected combat.
>>65228088NTA but it's based on a peasants tool so it's unlikely nobles would have wanted it or considered it as a status symbol.
>>65228534>>65228528Oh I have no doubts about the Agricultural Flail. You can build up a Lot of kinetic energy with that thing and there's virtually no chance of hitting yourself. The one-handed Military Flail, on the other hand, was probably the result of some ~20 year old knight blowing their first paycheck on a "More knightly" version of the peasant flail. I know it's silly but the one handed flail pops up too often in the records and everyone is a little stupid in their early 20s.
>>65226773flail beats the chaff from the wheatflail beats the weakness from the mansimple as
>>65228810Are we trying to stengthen our enemies?
>>65228088Because it wasn't? The primary users were peasants who were turning a farm tool they were familiar with into a weapon quickly and cheaply. Even then, they tended to mob individual targets. One retard with a flail isn't a threat. It will g hit hard enough to stop me killing him. 5 of them is going to rock my head around enough to make fighting difficult. Add another guy hitting me full for ex while this going on and I'm going to end up on the ground, and then I'm fucked because between falling, being beat on, and the poor vision out of a visor, I'll be too disoriented to survive unless they massively fuck up.On top of that war was such a part of life that mall ninja shit didn't exist. There was ALWAYS someone in your immediate social circle who'd done it for real who'd tell you something wouldn't work. Armchair general theory crafting bullshit requires you to be insulated from the reality of fighting.
>>65228703Ah, I fucking misread your post like the retard I am.Flails generate a lot of force, anon, and men at arms REALLY liked single handed impact weapons for mounted use. Picture slamming that down onto a bascinet while you ride past and it will seem a LOT more practical. Also hitting yourself is a non issue when you're in plate armor, that chain isn't going to allow it to happen with enough force to do much.
>>65226773Winner gets pussy
>>652267731. Why the fuck wouldn't you?2. Medieval times were extremely colorful, the grey and brown hollywood filter is pure nonsense.
