With Russia slowly running out of stuff to send, how far off in the future is their last offensive hurrah? What would they even have left?
>>65232310After Kostiantynivka falls, I bet the RuAF make a BIG push on the flanks of the fortress belt.
Tries to at least.
>>65232334>15km in 1570 daysSure.
>>65232348Even the MSM has started making noise about K-town falling sometime soon. Also, not a vatnik. Russia is losing.
>>65232356No one is disputing their “wish list”But to do that, they'd need about two million soldiersDo you think they have that many in reserve?
>>65232393No. An attempted push is not a good idea. But they will do it anyways.
>>65232393They have enough illiterate churkas to toss into the grinder that Ukraine needs some big breakthrough to stop the meat machine. Russia can continue pushing forwards so long as a handful of Siberian steppe mutts with AKs is capable of taking ground, even if it costs them a thousand of them a mile. Their focus on economic warfare has slowed zigger progress, but it won't stop it. I think now that Russia is running low on artillery and armor, a fuck huge minefield isn't the worst idea for defense in depth. Layer it out and make it just punishingly brutal to attempt to assault through.
>>65232348>1 meter per day>only 205900 days (563.7 years) left until Berlin>OOOOOORAAAAAAAA
>>65232398They're already trying to do that right now.While the ground is still dry and there are still leaves on the trees.But they're not succeeding.
>>65232398Why are you avatarfagging with Bush?
>>65232413>Imperial Russia expanded to Kamchatka/Alyeska at a faster rate despite having an objectively worse logistics situation thereSad.
>>65232421I'm kinda drunk. >>65232419Perun said it: It's hard to tell now when a Russian offensive is happening and when not.
>>65232334I'm pretty sure the only way that's even remotely possible is if they completely withdraw from Sumy and Kharkiv.
>>65232429Pretty sad; even that last German offensive at Balaton was more of an offensive.
In a scenario where Russia goes for an offensive, will it be Kaiserschlacht-level (70+ divisions), Battle of the Bulge-level, or Balaton-level offensive? Which one is more likely to happen and what will they have to remove from priority to attempt it?
>>65232453Is there a level BELOW Balaton? Steiner?
>>65232356It literally took them longer to surround Kostiantynivka than it did to push the Nazis from Moscow to Berlin.
>>65232453How would they even get the troop build up without getting hit?
>>65232471They don't. Germany had hundreds of thousands straight up dessert on their way from the eastern front to the west in 1918.
>>65232464>>65232453Land-based Ten-Go.
>>65232478So...Ichi-Go?
>>65232478>Armatas finally pressed into desperate service>picked apart by drone waves before they can even reach the fightKino
>>65232484>Kuznetsov put on tracks and sent on a Yamato suicide run to Kyiv
>>65232474Kaiserschlacht also saw German troops intentionally attack their own supply trains.
>>65232483Ichi-Go actually made significant gains and technically achieved objectives.
>>65232489pic related (better image)
The future of Crimea?
>>65232499>made significant gains and technically achieved objectives.all operational/tactical weasel words for STRATEGIC OBJECTIVE NOT ACHIEVED
>>65232534Yeah, but it's better than I expect any future Rusky offensive to go.
>>65232514I hope not.It would be better if Crimea were extremely costly for ziggers to supply, so that it becomes a black hole that devours ten times the resources.
>>65232348the fuck?! they're still in chasiv yar?!
>>65232514
>>65232544Just as long as they never reach Tasha Yar.
>>65232453>Cuckoldschlacht-level>Battle of the Bydlo-level>Blyataton-level offensive
>>65232544They can't move any further.There are hills where the Ukrainian army is positioned, as well as open terrain.
>>65232557>Russians cannot into over the hills and far away
>>65232557>They can't move any further. There are hills>2026
>>65232556I prefer "Clownserschlacht."
>>65232555Would. Also checked.
>>65232544They're still in the south, yes. And they're still putting up a vicious fight.
>>65232570Forgot to add that ziggers claim to have surrounded them to the west, but simultaneously have failed to make any gains from that direction behind them either.
>>65232559>>65232561They're trying.But so far, it hasn't worked out.
>>65232310Real talk, how do you even fuck up this badly? Hell why was ANYONE afraid of the Soviets if they were (and still are) this fuckong retarded?
>>65232576Corruption.
>>65232334>>65232356>Even the MSM has started making noise about K-town falling sometime soon.This means there's at least a year of fighting and close to 100k casualties to go
>>65232576>Hell why was ANYONE afraid of the Sovietsmuh ww2 and US hyping them up and establishing their influence via propaganda and a place in UN/surrendering eastern europe to them. it all emboldened soviets to act like they own the place and nobody dared to call their bluff.that's literally it.
>>65232576Europe wasn't nearly as heavily armed or as well armed. The USSR had all its vassal states to draw from and Ukraine for example was really a big arm of their industrial and tech stuff. The tech advantage of the US was probably only twenty years ahead instead of the 50 or so it probably is now.
>>65232576nukes and space race kindacoping over western civ and declaring that it would eventually fall to commies moreso.
>>65232409You can't defend a minefield without artillery against an enemy with better long range fires. That's the point of minefields, to funnel and slow down an advance so it's easy to kill an attacker. If all you can do is cower in a trench and hope the drones don't find you while someone systematically clears assault routes the minefield is useless.
What would they deprioritize? Sumy or Kharkiv?
>>65232605>artillery >2026You just need a massive drone swarm buzzing the field constantly.
>>65232620Why are Russians still bringing up artillery to pokrovsk then
>>65232576>why was ANYONE afraid of the Soviets if they were (and still are) this fuckong retarded?How about you stop equating russia with soviet union.Because this war is just soviet union attacking itself in confusion.
>>65232544and just east of that is Bakhmut
>>65232421Last good president
>>65232544>he thinks we compare it to 40k and WWI as a jokeA million men dead for not even a hundred miles of forever wasted land, that's what this shit-show is.
>>65232559>>65232561Welcome to the realities of World War I.
>>652325761970s US was in really shitty state. Western Europe, too.The Soviets ran the mother of all masterful propaganda campaigns from the 1960s to the mid-80sAnd the Soviet economy really began spiralling in the 80s, so thqy couldn't keep their potemkin-village millitary show running, couldn't keep financing the 5th columnists in the west, etc..Modern Russia is like a muppet controlled by the mafia wearing a Soviet skinsuit.
Why are people still saying 2 weeks lmao. This war has been going on forever.
>>65232576Soviets had Ukranians.
>>65232666>Why are people still saying 2 weeks lmao.because its a tongue-in-cheek saying
>>65232650The Russians are slower than most WW1 armies.
I'm back.
>>65232685Your analysis on the southern front, Mr. President?
>>65232348I remember when they were still fighting for Toretsk. But looking at the map it's literally like the next map being right there in operations in Battlefield 1
>>65232692For the first time in years Ukraine is killing more men than the Russians can "recruit". But, strategic degradation takes a long time. They need to keep this up for another... 6.. 12... whatever months before they achieve meaningful degradation of Russian forces.
>>65232692The Ukies would be best off not doing any ground pushes, but continuing to use Crimea as a hunting ground for Russian AA assets.
>>65232698Well they aim to accelerate that so it doesn't take as long. We shall see. >>65232699Free kills though they may be, they cannot stay there forever. Say, the Kinburn Spit is being stripped of forces because of the supply situation.
>>65232621Lack of drones and lack of good drones.
>>65232514This requires Ukraine to be at the door step again.
>>65232356It's certainly not looking like a great time for the Ukrainians there. Infiltration tactics and urban warfare are nasty, and russian drone operators are working to make logistics very difficult into the city. No one is disputing the difficulty of the situation there. However we are now at the stage of the war where Russia needs to commit a maximum effort offensive onto a single in order to slowly take a single city with high casualties. They are going to have to repeat this atleast three more times, all while facing counter attacks in Zaporozhia and Lyman and an increasingly grim logistics situation for the entire southern front.It's likely that the city will fall by autumn, by which point the logistics strike situation will have gotten worse (if current trends continue) and the foliage cover will start to disappear.
>>65232723They only have a few months before the leaves start falling.
