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>>65235469How do people like the Kimber 2k11?Did they ever get over their manufacturing issues?
Long shot but does anyone here have an M9 safariland SLS holster AND a government 1911 here? I am genuinely wondering if I can just shove my 1911 in an M9 holster and run it. The prices on 92 holsters are at rock bottom and the prices on 1911 holsters are ridiculous. Difference of $90-120.
>>65235502You allergic to gun oil or something? Yeesh. That rust freckling...
>>65235496It’s good. Kimber 2K11s are made in their new plant in Troy Alabama
>>65235516...did he shoot it in midair?
>>65235521It looks like it.
>>65235516>perfectionImagine if the Gen 6 becomes a P320 tier disaster and they fuck up the response to it just as badly.
>>65235538Meh, its been known to happen in previous Gens as well. Its only going to really bite you in the ass once you take the slide off.
>>>65235536You'll find a USP9 under $800.
>>65235575Meant for >>>65235374I find much pleasurable in this image.
>gun runs fine>train with snap caps >takedown involves racking the slide like a Glock >slide won't budge at all>possibly a FTE or FTF with the snap capWhat are my options here? I can't disassemble the gun to find out what is wrong with the gun
>>65235609take the mag out, and force the slide back with a rubber malletthe snapcap has probably jumped the extractor and doesn't want to eject
You're welcomeHS9LDJHU077
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>>65235611I'm a little worried that the snap cap will damage the internals but I'll give it a shot. Thanks man
Ten chewbs going out next week
>>65235650Burt, you've got a heart of gold. Don't let anyone take that from you
>>>65230896How does a shrouded hammer accumulate lint and debris? I thought the purpose of enclosing the hammer within the frame would eliminate that problem.
For any anons that live near a GT Distributors they have trade in G17 mags for $13. It says they’re out of stock in line but they had a ton in store. >>65235650My king. I feel like I need to get an LCR to go with the poster so I don’t feel like a fraud. >>65235609Do you have an optic or rear irons with a ledge? You could put the rear iron against a ledge and hit the back or the grip to try to reverse mortar it.
>>65235681I just sheared the top of my sro off my slide, thanks dude
>>65235686Fake news, the SRO glass would have shattered first.
>>65235686Fake news the glocknade would have blown up in his hands and he wouldn't be typing right now.
>>65235694>>65235697I'm deadass, I didn't have a warranty on this shit
>>65235730Should have bought Holosun.
>>65235730My holosun doesn't do that.
>>65235734>>65235733Why the fuck did he say that like it would work to clear the pistol? I'm out 600$ to replace this, I paid 350$ on the fucking gun
>>65235736Pics or it didn't happen
>>65235736It does work. You did it wrong.
>>65235635what's that from? asking for a friend.
>>65235635i was going to ask how this is /k/ related but then i saw that gunshow
>>65235008Not yet, but it's only gone through maybe 200 rounds since I replaced the CC with the HD. It's definitely something I'm monitoring.
>>65235913Don’t tap it gently with a rubber mallet :/
>>65235516I've been hearing more about Gen6 being a stinker
>>65235995Tap what, the RMR HD? It's got a reputation for durability relative to something like the SRO. You learn something painfully expensive firsthand?
>>65236032Glock has always been dogwater
Thinking about getting a EDC sub compact, narrowed it down to the G43X or the M&P Shield plus. Planning on running it stock/iron sights Any suggestions?
STOP!You MUST post an Italian gun.
>>65235512I bought it used for $284No complaints
>>65236055I'd do blacked out rear sights with a high vis front post.
Qrd on the gen 6 issues?
>>65236217Likely lowered QC standards due to the desire to fully saturate the market with gen 6s. Shoot 500 rounds through your Gen 6 Glock before you daily carry it.
Post tactical shitter guns.
>>65234825Man sometimes I forget how nice our small gun options are nowadays>>652349951. Soak screws and end of slide where screw holes are in acetone 2. Scrub old thread-locker off (old toothbrush or something)3. Apply new thread-locker and use torque wrench (adjust for wet vs dry torque)4. Wait for it to cure (depends on what you use)
beretta out they mind
>>65236375and here i was shitting on s&w for putting their brand on chinkshit knives
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>>65236362Usually this guy
>>65235641That’s certainly a possibility, but you can just inspect your extractor/ejector afterwards for any damage. If you take it to a gunsmith and he finds that slide is stuck too, he’ll get the mallet out lol.
>>65236217https://youtube.com/watch?v=U-vhhuERVO0
>>65235913what model SA 1911 do you have?
>>65236568Looks like their older model “1911A1”I miss their old roll marks.
>>65235913That VP9 would look so much better without the stupid Spider-Man grip. Why is HK so insistent on keeping it?
>>65236043Don’t drop an ammo box with 500 rounds of .45 in it into it, knocking it off a range table into concrete, with a fully loaded magazine of .45 + 1 in the chamber
>>65236613it feels good to grasp
I get paid in a few days, talk me out of a Mark 23. Since it is fucking huge and I am a small dude I think I will be mexican carrying
>>65236694become a mark23 chad
>>65236694I don’t think anyone here will talk you out of a mk23
>>65236694You should definitely carry a mk23
>>65236723>>65236714>>65236698Unfortunate news for my wallet
>>65236694If you were smarter, you wouldn’t be so short.
>>65236752>Unfortunate news for my walletGet Mk 23 at home then. At least $1k less.
>>65236694If you're buying it on a countdown you're overpaying. Probably by a LOT unless you want one of these green ones that are cheap I don't know whyStick the money in another account and wait until a deal comes up. It may take a year, or more, but you'll hate yourself lesshttps://www.gunbroker.com/semi-auto-pistols/search/completed?keywords=hk%20mark%2023&exclude=glock%20usp&pagesize=48&sort=4&view=2&timeframe=1https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1173196455also>get paid>spend it immediatelyYeesh.
>>65236781>unless you want one of these green ones that are cheapThe green is ugly but not as fucking ugly as FDE.
>>65236694>talk me out of a Mark 23you missed out on them being 1700 earlier this year. the fact of the matter anon is that its JUST a da/sa handgun that is hilariously overbuilt, it costs as much as a 2011 and will shoot worse. yes it can sit at the bottom of the ocean for ten years and not rust or whatever but who the fuck cares? you're just going to baby it and keep it in its case all the time.
>>65236780But no drip.>>65236781I imagine no one likes the green because it looks like baby shit. It isn't like I'm poor, I just try to budget smartly. I suppose I should wait a bit since I had to dump a few grand because my AC died
>>65236786tbf I dont think any MK23 owners buy them because they're optimal carry guns
>>65236794they buy them the same reason people buy deagles, because its funny beeg peestol. but is that really worth 2300 dollars? please don't spitefully say 'Yes.' just because i asked a rhetorical question.oh also, im pretty sure mk23s are out of stock everywhere right now so you will be paying an insane markup.
>>65236796nta but yes
>>65236796>they buy them the same reason people buy deagles, because its funny beeg peestol?? I bought my Desert Eagle for caliber conversion.
>>65236804>I bought my Desert Eagle for caliber conversion.why? that seems like a really dumb reason.
>>65236804?? i bought my deagle because its in the vidya and moobies
>>65236804What caliber did you convert it to?
Thoughts on 22/45? Want a range gun I can suppress and go tick tick tick and hand place my boolits and I’m thinking the 22/45 is the ticket
>>65236831tx22 also gud
>>65236787>But no dripYou may as well just go to Canada and get euthanized with that attitude
>>65236825.357 with different barrel lengths and ports for the 10+1, and .50AE with a 6 and 10in as well. It came in .44.
>>65236493>>65235611I actually got so frustrated that I just ripped the slide back with all my strength and the snap cap when shooting across my room. I disassembled it and i don't see any visible damage and the action works fine. Probably not gonna run snap caps through this in the future but thanks for all the advice man
>>65236831I have one of those, ssh variant, and don't like it too much.
What are my options, if I wanted a 7 inch slide and a 8 inch barrel for a 1911?
>>65236831Do it anonhttps://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/pistols/-22-pistols/awc-amphibian-ruger-mark-ll.cfm?gun_id=103668235
How the fuck does Stoeger stay in business? I've never met anyone online that has bought one of their guns, let alone irl
I bought my deagle because vidya game
Havent seen winchesters usa flat nosed ammo (OP's pic) in quite a whileSup with that?I usually buy it in 9mm and .45acp
>>65236977they're much prettier with the rails
>>65236083Hang on let me get out of bed.
>>65237002and ported
>>65236967I know a black fella that loves them.
>>65237002On opposite day!
I'm having trouble picking a hangun. I've narrowed it down to either a Glock 19, a Beretta PX4 or a sig P226 X-Carry legion
>>65237059none of these are CZ so you have clearly made a mistake.
>>65237002Anon I'm sorry but that's a very bad opinion.
>>65237066I think the px4 compact clears any CZ carry option easily.
>>65237096>I like to smoke crack on the weekendsIf it makes you happy ig
>>65237059posts like this legitimately feel like astroturfing.
>>65235678I'm really splitting ends here, it isn't a huge flaw, however there is a cutout on the back of the slide.
>>65237100>trigger Better >ergos Better >aesthetics Better
>>65236083At first I didn't love how the PX4 looked but its really grown on me.
>>65237115>triggerI have never had a CZ but my PX4 trigger sucks. Same for my 92. Wondering if all stock Beretta triggers are like that
I think the PX4 Compact is the ugliest handgun I own but damn if it's not the gun I carry 95% of the time and it shoots incredibly well for its size and weight. I would be absolutely shocked if a CZ could compete out of the box.
>>65237223well I don't like how CZ triggers stack and do not have a consistent pull like my Berettas, but my Berettas are aftermarket.5-5.5 pound DA pull, 2 pound or less SA pull.
>>65236997seems with the demand for ammo right now they switched to more profitable ammo, the red box stuff is supposed to be their match ammo (flat nose punches a perfect round hold).
>>65237223The PX4 Compact Carry 2 has a wonderful trigger but you do pay for it
>>65237115>triggerfamously worse>ergofamously worse>aestheticsbitch pleasethe only thing cool about the PX4 is the rotating barrel.
>>65237291
>>65236568Basic loaded with an aftermarket spring housing/backstrap/magwell and grips from whatever year it was when I grabbed that thing.
On my project to convert my Wilson Combat 1911 in .45 to a 2011 double stack .45 it seems successful. After fitting to that JEM frame, 10-8 hammer + EGW sear I have a 4.5-5 pound pull which I’ll tune up a little bit. My optic plate is a Eleven 71 design EPS plate I had to dremel to fit a RMSC optic but with the 10-8 Glock rear sight on it the BUIS has almost the same sight radius as a Detonics Combat Master. I ran about 150 rounds of FMJ through it, 75 rounds of JHP without a single malfunction.
>bought a revolver with the intention to become good at shooting revolvers >realized there's a reason they're are considered range toys by most people who actually shootAnother bad financial decision by yours truly
>>65237532>Another bad financial decision by yours trulyHere for a good time not a long time.
>>65237532Revolvers are not easy to be really good with and the existence of reliable semi autos makes them obsolete.
>>65237532What did you get? Something like a Model 10 is very easy to shoot, you might just have to get used to double action.
>>652375554 inch Model 19 (a real one, not one of the new ones) Been shooting mostly .38 specials with the occasional cylinder of 357 mag for fun. My problems are:>I wear a size XL glove and I haven't found a pair of grips that actually work for me. Everything I try is too rounded and "ergonomic" for a consistent firing hand placement, and my support hand always feels like it's slipping off. I almost spent stupid money on a pair of old Hurst grips, but I snapped out of it, thank god. >The DA pull has this annoying little wall at the very end of the stroke that I can't get over. I picked up a couple other smiths at the LGS and they did it too, so I don't think anything's actually wrong. >The serrated ramp front sight sucks dick, even after I blackened it. >I fucking hate cleaning it.
>>65236880hell yeah brotherinspect the ejector and extractor for noticeable wear/burrs, but you should be good to go
Just got another P10 after selling mine last yearI feel like I've completed the trifecta with a PDP, P10, and Glock. I sold my VP9L because I didn't like it as much as those 3. Never shot an M&P 2.0 but can't imagine I'm missing outAlso, harbor freight selling TLR-1s for $49.99 will never not be funny
>>65237059Realistically you're going to end up buying several handguns, so you shouldn't really labor over this choice too much.
>>65237620>Also, harbor freight selling TLR-1s for $49.99 will never not be funnyI wish I could have gotten one before the redesign. I don't like the knurling, not right there where it gets blasted with carbon.
>>65237624I picked one up early but I should've bought like 5. I just didn't trust it at the time. Now I do
>>65237598Post pics I love shooting revolvers and I'd love to get a model 19 one day. Maybe you should have gone for an R8 or GP100+ or something
>>65236694No. I look forward to you posting about trying to spic carry a 3lb gun with no holster.
>>65237620I'm getting a ported one of them next month as my first gun. Super excited to start planning range days.
>>65237675Nice.
>>65237223the stock px4 has abominable trigger reset.
>>65237675Very cool dude
>Steel ReserveChrist.
>>65237059glonk. Sign up for GSSF so you can get a blue label for like $400. >>65237598Don’t take this the wrong way but it’s a skill issue. Get some snap caps.
>>65236831I don't like mine. Or rather its foibles make me unable to really like it. It's finicky, intolerant of crud, low capacity, takes a lot of work to make trigger nice and somewhat expensive, and racking the bolt with the hammer down is unpleasantHonestly settling for 10 rounds in the current year is pretty cuck-tier unless you are doing slow fire, which it sounds like you are not primarily intending
What are the pros and cons of LEM vs DA/SA
>>65237775LEM is consistently mediocre every shot, like a glawk with a mile of takeup. DA/SA has a learning curve with one heavy DA press followed by superior SA with a decent reset. LEM is for pigs, DA/SA is for professionals.
>>65236083does 'italian designed' count?
>>65237806Thanks Anon, that's what I was suspecting
>>65237775One type of trigger pull vs two. LEM is for strikerfags who want to holster with a thumb on the hammer>>65237806Takeup is irrelevant, especially in this comparison with DA/SA where the DA pull is far more intrusive, upsetting and training-time-consuming than extra takeup on the first shot. The break and reset are normal
>>65237775As the other anon said, LEM is an attempt to make a single trigger press to appeal to knuckle draggers who can't learn a DA/SA trigger (or rather the agency who needs those knuckle draggers to pass qual).DA/SA has the most safety, that long deliberate heavy trigger pull does two things. One it makes it mechanically very hard for there to be a ND without extreme negligence. Two it makes there to be a barrier before the use of force, you have to be sure you're pulling the trigger to pull a DA trigger versus a light SA pull. (not really a thing, but people sell that). The biggest pro to hammer fired guns is the ability to control the hammer when you holster, you can hold it down or jam your finger infront of it if cocked while holstering it. Makes it very hard for there to be an ND/AD.
I have ONE mailer left, you want-a da posters you send-a da addressburtgummer6chk@gmail.com
Talk me out of getting the vp9cc(sfp9cc at home)
>>65237775I have an hk45 with the Lem system and I really like it, it’s the hammer equivalent of the p99s Anti-stress or AS system, the take up initially is da long but with no resistance as the hammer spring is mostly cocked and then it’s like 4-5 pounds or so the last eighth? of an inch or something like that, the reset is sa short but it’s the same state. The only time you get the full heavy long pull is if you didn’t cock the hammer spring by racking the slide or you have a ftf and have to restrike the round. Lem and the AS are probably my favorite trigger designs personally, doesn’t hurt that they come with the objectively superior paddle mag release either. Nothing wrong with dasa, have more of them and like them too, but I can get the benefits without the negatives.
>>65238009No, buy two.
>>65235538>>65235542>>65236032Not a Gen6, it's a Gen5 with a dual slide spring.>>65236502>reduced spring weights>hearsayInvalid.>optic spacer issuesFair.
>>65236694Carrying a Mark 23 is one of the worst ideas I've ever heard. You literally just will not.
>>65238049Why it’s just big not particularly heavy, I’ve CC’d a full size USP and a Desert Eagle, and the weight of the Desert Eagle was the issue, the size as well, but mostly the weight.
>>65238049Why is it a bad idea? It’s just a longer USP basically. It’s not impossible, I can CC a 5 inch 2011
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>>65235681>G17 mags for $13Already replaced mine with Mec-Gar but thanks anyway
PX4anon, are there any recommended upgrades for the Compact Carry 2 for an EDC? Internally or externally. Thank you. I'm gonna have the slide get CrN'd shortly
>>65236666Quads might be backing you up, but I still believe there is a way to make it ergonomic without having to pay royalties to Marvel Comics.
>>65237998It's not that I don't trust you, it's that I would never actually hang this up so it would be better off with someone else.
>signed up for email notifications for Collector Design Werks for their Samurai Edge grips>receive email that June preorders are open>see email 35 minutes later>pull up website>already sold outSad!
>>65238174He's come a long way. Used to be that his batches would drop every few months and they'd take awhile to sell out. Now they're hot-ticket items that are gone in a blink. Thank God I have like 4 pairs. ;)
>>65237598Have you tried the original style of target grips? I also wear XL gloves and those target grips are my favorite. Not the shitty Altamont ones.
>>65238181Yeah, I just got back into RE and I decided now was the time to build out a Samurai Edge. All I need left for a Jill model are the grips and engravings. Who did yours? How long ago? Would you recommend them?
>>65238148Low profile slide release, optic cut, the low profile slide release you may already have
>>65237675It doesn't have to be the best, it just has to work pretty well.
>>65238193>Who did yours?Customized Creationz>How long ago11 years ago. Goddamn, has it really been that long. >Would you recommend them? FUCK no. He's fallen off bad. Middlebranch Machine is the new engraving meta.
Cz75 compact or po9c?
>>65238230I don't know how the new one is, but I found the original P-09 to be perfect except for the grip being too skinny and the decocker levers too fat. I know they fixed the decocker levers on the new P-09, but if it has the same skinny grip, I would take the CZ75 Compact.
>>65238230If you aren't hung up on not having an optic cut and accessory rail, the 75 Compact is downright luxurious to shoot. It's the size of a G19 but shoots like a much bigger gun with the steel frame, the alloy PCR and P01 can't match it. It's slimmer and less top heavy than a P229 or 92 Compact, carries better despite the added weight. The P09C is just a hammer fired P10C, it's fine but there's nothing notable about it.
>>65238255>>65238251Okay, and taking that into account, how about the po1 compact?
>>65238230A few years ago I would have slapped myself for saying this but try the p09c. Even though the 75c is a decent size for cc it's heavier than I would like. I don't act as comfortable or natural when I have a three pound brick on my hip. Especially after long periods of time.
>>65238213Damn, $600 is steep. Might have to make it a Christmas gift to myself.
>>65238264There's less than a 2oz weight difference between those two, so that's just going to come down to a preference in ergos and aesthetics. If you want a boxy polymer gun that supports an optic out of the box and isn't a Glock, the P09C is made for you. If you just love the 75 and want one to carry, the P09C isn't going to scratch that itch.
>>65238312I need an M9A1
>>65238376for what
>>65238381for f-. WHAT DO YOU MEAN
>>65238382You said you needed it, I'm asking for what: target, carry, collection?
>>65238376its good, i love the versatility of having a railbest decision of my life when i was debating on either the regular M9 or the railedstill wish i could've gotten the M9A3 in black though but it's no big deal
>>65238401Hell yeah, thanks for the information. It looks great with the light on it.>>65238385Oh. I need it because I don't own anything Italian.
>>65238407But the M9A1 is American manufactured
>>65236605What gun is this?
>>65238415FUCK
>>65238419It's a DIY piece of shit.
>>65238427Rude
>>65238423does it really matter?even the Tennesse ones have gotten better
>>65238429Nah, I'm just breaking your balls.Have a good night, everyone!
>>65238455>Have a good night, everyone!no u
Which 1911 would you consider the holy grail?
>>65238565For me personally it’s the 9mm Mk IV Series 70 because it was used in Way of The Gun.
>>65238160the stippling is fantastic, it doesn't dig into your palms but the friction is perfect
>>65237897Why did HK replace this with basically the same gun but uglier (P30)
>>65237551That willet family reserve is one of the best bottles of whiskey I've ever tried. Good taste anon.
>>65238596Yeah that stuff is good. I tried a few of the Willets when I worked at a liquor store but some of it was out of my price range. I didn't have dibs because we still had to make customers happy but I got access to a lot of stuff that never made it to the floor.
>>65238114>mec garHow are they without the mag overtravel stop? Is your ejector holding up?
>>65235469Which Beretta is the most berretaer of all Berettas, realistically speaking ? I'd like a Brigadier 92 Samurai Edge but it's unobtainium in Europe without infinite money, time and hoops to go through. I'm slowly starting to consider a M9A3 or M9A4 or even M9A2 plus a threaded barrel. Or a PX4CC2, that gun looks nice, even if out of stock here for the moment. Let's say I will own a single Beretta, must be the one. Btw I wonder which one between the PX4CC2 and USP9c is the coolest.
Im going to buy a M&P Shield Plus today for my EDC unless anyone can convince me otherwise
>>65239109> not a shadow 2 compactoof. > not even a da/sa hammer gundouble oof.
>>65239109eewwwww not a glock?
>>65239109M&Ps are g2g
>>65237998Any chance you could get high resolution scans of the posters. I really want to get a desk mat made out of those posters.
>>65239127>shadow 2 compactLooks nice but out of my price range>da/sa hammer gunnever considered it, don't have any experience with them either>>65239145I was looking at the 43x as well but i dont see a red dot package like i see with the plus. I do admit the glock looks sexier
>>65239109It's not going to be your favorite gun
>>65239214>this wishy washy and considering a glockkek
>>65239109What other handguns do you own?
>>65239109it took me 9 yeareals to collect the cereals
>>65239214>never considered it, don't have any experience with them either>mfwhttps://www.smith-wesson.com/product/s-w-csx-e-series-3-6-inchSame price as a Glock but not shitGlock was good 10 years ago. It's been replaced everywhere but LEO and Government procurement now.
>>65239281A fellow ytp AND 92 enjoyer
>>65239303sonic crapped in the force field
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_im-zOxZ1Usonic crapped in the force field
>>65239247I'm looking strictly for conceal carry>>65239257Dont know what youre implying>>65239278Canik tp9, tp9 SFX, 22 revolver, j-22, ruger 380This will be my first non meme handgun>>65239301I dont dislike it, what are the advantages over a shield plus/striker fired? Just the safety?
>>65239378>Just the safety?Better trigger, just as safe.I'd rather get a new M&P 9 Compact over the shield desu though. The shield will work but it's never the best option.
>>65239378The exposed hammer of the CSX means you can thumb the hammer while holstering it, so if some how if the manual safety was disengaged, the trigger safety disengaged, you still prevent the gun from going off when holstering It’s also made of aluminum and not polymer like the Shield.