There's already a contract in place for 32 F-35s, Poland is now planning to extend it to 64.https://defence24.pl/polityka-obronna/wiecej-f-35-dla-polski-jest-potwierdzenie
>>65242617NOOOOOOOO
>>65242617Should have bought 3 more
Impossible! I was assured that DRRRUUUUMMMMPOPPHHHHH caused everyone to hate America forever and ever and nobody would ever buy American products ever again?!
>>65242617F-35 bros... we keep winning...
Also, one aspect of Norway, Finland, Poland, Czechia, Germany, Romania, and Bulgaria all procuring the F-35 means that if the USAF needs to surge American F-35's to NATO's eastern flank, there's already a bunch of airbases equipped to handle them.
>>65242671(me)>BulgariaI am retarded.
>>65242617Poland is the Greece of the north. They can only buy and are not able to produce anything. It's a recipe for disaster. If they were smart they would've entered a 6th gen program.
>>65242675There's no reason to waste money producing 5th gen fighter, when we can buy 64 of them and have the skies pretty much locked out.Instead the manufacturing goes into ammo, rockets, drones, vehicles AA systems - all expendable systems that you need to constantly churn out.
>>65242675>entered a 6th gen program.They're all a crapshoot at he moment and no fighters will be made for like 10 years. The f-35a order can be filled now and it's going to be enough to overmatch Russian forces for a long time. I suspect Poland will leapfrog 6th gen manned fighters, but probably still get the wingman drones that come from the programs.
>>65242617what do f35s even do baka
>>65242628Not sure why Germany is complaining. It's more firepower between them and Russia.
>>65242783They carry 4 missiles in stealth mode.
>>65242675Any polish citizen could rape you to death
>>65242617>F35 allegedly greatest jet in the world>US keeps cancelling domestic orders>USAF order slashed, F15EX orders increased, almost double of F35>B and C variant somehow even worse>F15EX has more modern MAWS which would've made the hit Iran scored against the F35 impossibleHow is this plane so shit after so many years that the US is quietly giving up on it, and admitting 4th gens are better, and why do euros keep buying it?
this seems like an excellent opportunity to remind everyone that right now, as we speak, Poland is fielding more stealth fighters than Russia
>>65242675>Why would I need to learn how to farm when I can buy potatoes at the store?They've been slaves their entire history, they're happy to keep being slaves.
>>65242617What a waste of resources.Legacy weapon systems proved completely useless against Iran, and they will be totally useless against PUCCIA.
>>65242675There were supposedly some talks about joining GCAP as an observer, but after the initial news they went radio silent siniej if anything came of it. But yeah, we have no real aerospace industry. Frankly buying f35s is infinitely cheaper and more effective than developing, but it would be nice to have something domestic, even just for the sake of the know how.
>>65242628>>65242785Germany isn't complaining. It's likely Germany will order a second batch of F-35A too.
>>65243966>buying f35s is infinitely cheaper and more effective than developingthe issue is that when you can only buy you let your industry die. which already happened in poland.
>>65242861>>65243016>redditards so mad they start sucking off pierre sprey
>>65242617I want to hate Poles, because they are stupid. But they are also stupid honest and genuinely hardworking, more so than good Mexicans even so I wish the best for them.
>>65242628>I am 115 years old.
>>65242642They do NATO org so 2 squads with 2 flights each and a few dedicated trainers/backups.
>>65242674Still fits. 16s will be used. Fat Amy will do initial strikes and then loiter, Vioer will do agile bomb truck runs. 15-EX will do and needed deep strike due to payload.
We are inevitable, Eurocucks
>>65243016>and other fantasies you can tell yourself as a retarded dronenigger that doesn't understand how drone warfare actually works
>>65244062There is no aero industry in Poland. Hasn’t been any in many decades. We’d need to develop from scratch, which is why nobody wants to bother, especially when we can just buy the literal best thing on the market instead.
>>65242628>buying F-35s? We don't do that in GERMANY!
>>65244363They could have fixed this by building more nuclear power plants. Even coal power plants are an alternative at this point.
>>65244602But they uhhh…They do do that in Germany
>>65244363B-b-but I was told Germany spend 900 billion to rebuild Europe! Surly they didn't spend it all on painting a PDP in Fde brown!
>>65242675Unless Russia becomes an actual Chinese proxy. The F-35 will rape anything Poland has to face for the next 50 years.
I remember they needed one more squadron and were considering Rafale, KF-21 and I think Typhoons as well. Ive got to say I am a bit curious about the Koreans and would like to see the KF-21 in action one day, but ultimately going with more F35 was just objectively the best choice.
>>65245046>They could have fixed this by building more nuclear power plantThe Russians spent years shilling for Germany to dismantle its nuclear energy sector by the way. But Germany and the rest of Europe could have heavily invested in a mix of:>Nuclear>Coal>Gas and oil fields within the boundaries of Europe itself>Solar and wind farms
>>65242785>Not sure why Germany is complainingIts what they do best
>>65242778>The f-35a order can be filled nowLMAOLockheed is at 3 years of backlog, while producing an Amy every other day. >>65242861Its not just shit, its attritable even.1340 units delivered, it can crash head on into all of BRICS manned aircrafts, and stil remain for museums. Lockheed poops these shits out faster than china plastics. If the global south can shoot down 10 every week, there will be no airframes in 4 years assuming continous peacetime production of 192 planes a year.
>>65246427>If the global south can shoot down 10 every week, there will be no airframes in 4 years assuming continous peacetime production of 192 planes a year.Are you retarded? Like, why would a non-retarded person write this?
>>65242785this>>65243989It's some dime a dozen brown D&C, remember the pzh2000 vs Krab threads?
>>65246453I spent way too much time explaining those vehicles to retards before i realized it was d&c.
>>65246440Im not good at conveying satire, and human communication in general.Retarded? Probably.
>>65246453No, I was purposely avoiding those.
>>65242628/qa/ lost
Poles need to take their revenge from Germany. They have my full support
A skąd pieniążki na to wziąć. A deficycik budżetowy jaki.
>>65247342Po prostu wydrukuj wincyj lmao
>>65242675>>65242902>If they were smart they would've entered a 6th gen program.Airframes are need for today, not for when they will be ready.
>>65246895
Poland is the only loyal European ally we have in that God forsaken craphole they call “europe”. The rest of the europeans + the brits are very disloyal to America, talking about buying crap Saabs and overpriced eurofighters and Rafaels that drop from the sky
>>65246276Germans don't complain enough.
>>65247327>occupying almost half of their neighbor's country"revenge" lmao
>>65242642>six-sevenYou need to be 18 to post on this website.
>>65244307We're not stupid we just have post soviet problem solving with the added handicap that it actually works unlike in russian hands. We're functional just very strange.
>>65242783For starters, they can sneak in and drop every bridge being used by Russian logistics. We've seen how hard it is for them to advance on foot without adequate supplies.
>>65244277>status:>arrived [X]>not arrived [ ]
Are they going to get the special variant with lifting weights for a radar since China has cucked your supply chain?
>he posted the firefighting sim>again
>>65248080>Are they going to get the special variant with lifting weights for a radar since China has cucked your supply chain?like all polish military contracts, it will deliver a half of a fraction of what they ordered, ~12yrs after contract tender
I wish Lockheed-Martin would sell me a F-35 necktie to wear to work.
>>65247554Poland is the perfect example of the Grasshopper
>>65248092Kek. Reminds me of their FA-50 deal that the koreans claimed it would rival the F-35. Yet now years later they only have gap filler modules that can't use any A/G weapons, no AESA nor AIM9X integration nor any block 20 models.Yet some fat officer got their wrists greased.
>>65248080UFOs, birds as drones and flat earth are all rookie conspiracies.My conspiracy is that radar isn't real. Those radar returns? It's all a hallucination. You're imagining it. What, you emit "energy" and see "reflections"? Don't make me laugh.
>>65242628Oh look, the Korean/brown false flaggers are at it again.Did you know Polland and Germany signed a formal defense cooperation yesterday?
>>65244297The problem is that in the drone era Pierre Sprey started making some sense
>>65244363Aren't you forgetting the pipeine through the Sahara, MIGAtard?
>>65249529>the koreans claimed it would rival the F-35They didn't, they say this about KF-21. FA-50 is a F-16 analogue.
>>65247682Go back to sleep unc
>>65244330whoosh>>65247682>32+3=67>You need to be 18 to post on this website.
>>65244341turdie opinion discarded
>>65249616>FA-50 is a F-16 analogue.>no weapons>no radar>less than half the range of the already short range of the f-16It's a fucking trainer at best. >KF-21>anywhere close to the F-35 under ANY conceivable metric. LMAO
>>65248080>i-if i keep lying about this image of recovery training i will stop being a smelly chinkbug!you won't. you will forever be an ugly and smelly bugman.
>>65247560/QA/ lost, sorry that it makes you seethe.
>>65249598Cute cope, pay up
>>65249780I'm talking about what Koreans are saying you mongrel illiterate idiot.
>>65249780>FA-50 is a F-16 analogue.>no radardon't look up the F-16A, kiddo
>>65250948Well, kiddo, considering that we're in 2026 and the block 20 version of the FA-50 that has been hyped by Worst Korea for years is nowhere to be seen, I don't think it's fair to compare it to an F-16A from the seventies that almost immediately received the AN/APG-66 radar.
>>65251151>nowhere to be seenRaytheon has confirmed the AESA is on the order book, and the US Govt has cleared AIM-120 for the Worst Koreanswhat more do you want, short of first flight, first launch, etc
>>65251222>Raytheon has confirmed the AESA is on the order book>the gloves are off>what more do you want when we're 4 years late?
>>65251334>nowhere to be seenis not the same as>4 years late
>>65251431knowing the gooks, it's the same. They'll find an excuse and say the client was dumb for believing their sale's pitch.
>>65251468>Raytheon and the US Govt are gookscope lmao
