>HUD can be put inside cybernetic eyes >doesnt strain the eyes or limit FOV>networked with every sensor nearby>including others using said lenses to know were enemies are, probable location of incoming artillery from nearby counter battery radar, possible location of enemies from sensors,...>integrated thermal, x20 zoom and Night vision >can give optimal fire solution even without having scope>other neat stuff like locking onto enemies and threat like drones>showing the path of bullet like they were tracers(high frame per second to calculate it)say the science gets there, would it be worth it to get every grunt cybernetic eyes?
>>65244378>say the science gets there, would it be worth it to get every grunt cybernetic eyes?No, because not everyone outside of the military should have cybernetic eyes. Say you give joe blow a fresh set of cybernetic eyes because he joined infantry, when he leaves, does he take the eyes too? Fuck no, its too expensive for a majority of soldiers in a volunteer army. If we had an army of lifelong trained from childhood soldiers it would be a no brainer, but having to remove normal eyes (and probably damaging them to the point they cant be put back) is way too expensive, not to mention it would take time to acclimate to such abilities, something that would be even more expensive. The only ones who would probably get this is either (good) pilots, field commanders, or maybe mechanics and shit (because their eyes would remain useful outside of the military assuming they continue the same career).
>>65244449The problem is that once you have augs the enemy will have it too and roll it out in massive numbers. Fpv pilots will need kiroshis first, then Navy/air force pilots. In their civ life, military kiroshis will be reusable. Then it'll trickle down to marksmen, arty/armor, spec recce, intel... So you:> Make Joe Drones the offer of a pair of Kiroshis.> He can take it, leave it and get killed by the enemy having a pair.> Make him sign 10...15 years, and scrap his GI Bill.> He'll need parts and updates - you as part of the military-industrial complex will be equipped to provide him with those.> If he gets back to 1st civ, or gets discharged, he'll keep his eyes - not like you can make him unlearn military training. He'll be a fundamentally different person than the starry eyed 18 year old guy at the enlistment centre. > If you brick his eyes (as in remove all military software and make the eyes work exactly like human baseline eyes) then the enemy can do it too, and there will be a black market of unbricking said eyes.
>>65244378Tleilaxu eyes enslave their users
>>65244378>they hacked my eyes
>>65244378If you have the tech to make all of that happen in a cybernetic eye replacement, then you have the tech to make that happen in a lightweight set of goggles. The goggles won't require extensive surgery, require them to take immunosupressant drugs, and keep their normal eyes for the 99.9% of the time the Mk 1 eyeball is perfectly fine. You also don't have to go through the long rehabilitation phase where the brain figures out what the new inputs from the optic nerve are saying.Really, I don't think you guys understand just how good of a camera the human eyeball is for almost all tasks. It's super high dynamic range, incredible depth of field, self adjusts to lighting and distance, self cleans, every user is an instinctual master user, and is powered by the apple you ate for lunch to achieve a power-weight unbeatable by anything even on the horizon of human conception.Really, what are you going to do when the cameras need their biannual services? Goggles you just send to the shop and go about your day. Are you going to surgically remove that cyber eye and leave your guy blind for the week it takes to get them recalibrated?What happens when your guy hurts his back waterskiing and has to leave service? Your cyber eyes either go with him or you blind a veteran. Goggles just get handed out to his replacement.
>>65244511What happens in reality is that the military quickly finds its recruitment pipeline drying up.
>>65244624You are making a lot of assumptions.>the week it takes to service his eyeballsEvery setting that has these things has installing and maintaining them as an outpatient procedure. Your hypothetical soldier is down for a few hours at most.
>>65244511>Make him sign 10...15 years, and scrap his GI Bill.Lmao. Retard, they can barely get helicopter warrants to sign up for 10 years and that gives you a dual turbine flight certification that you can use in your civilian career. What the fuck are your 200x zoom thermal eyeballs supposed to fucking do for you when you get out and work as an account auditor at KPMG? Why the fuck would anyone sign up for that contract?>inb4 we'll force them with our cyberpunk corporate dystopia plot powerYou're going to force all the guys with guns to get their eyes ripped out and become indentured servants for a decade and a half? That's your honest plan?
>>65244632>we'll uhhh, we'll have quick change stations like jiffy lube!Again, how is this better than just giving them a neato set of goggles?
>>65244651>Again, how is this better than just giving them a neato set of goggles?its way faster if its a part of your body vs external device.>>65244643security, faster work flow since you should be able to use it like a phone, ...
>>65244681>way fasterHow? It's the same information being displayed at the same rate. Also, your cyber eye isn't anymore part of the the soldier's body than his HUD goggles. No, just because you surgically shoved them into his head doesn't actually make them a part of him any more than the goggles. If anything, they're worse than normal eyes since the processing and refresh rate of the digital image is always going to be slower than light triggering a nerve impulse in a normal eye. >securityWow, they can get out and work a minimum wage night shift job checking doors at the local Target! What a great opportunity to get in exchange for doing 10 years of military service!>faster workflow since you should be able to use it like a phone...Lmao. Are these eyes going to let you fly too? How the fuck do you plan on shoving all this into a 2" ball? How the fuck does seeing your bosses phone call .5 seconds faster than just pulling your phone from your pocket even matter?Are you actually fucking retarded?
>>65244378I've thought about this subject to a rather unhealthy degree for a story I'll never end up writing and the only conclusion I could come up with is that the military itself would not be the ones supplying any elective augmentations but would probably allow a person who had elective augmentations to join as long as they are able to meet the rigors of military service.On that note, prosthetics you received through injury would probably be sponsored and allow you to continue your service if you chose to. Then again, it all depends on how this sort of technology would manifest. In my ideal world we would go GitS and I'd get a full body prosthesis by working for some government ABC organization and have to give it back if I decided to leave.On the whole, it makes no sense for the military to abandon equipment you can have Joe Nobody wear and give to John Fuckboy next.
>>65244511>any of thisCyberpunk authors in general tend to be libshits (read: no real life experience) and do not understand that 99.999998% of "humanity" is a utter waste of existence. A real "cyberpunk" dystopia is one that these cretins would have never been born in. The truth is that the more "cyber" we get, the less "punk" we live in.
>>65244632>the week it takes to service his eyeballsNot a big deal,just return to factory for monthly calibration cycle.
>>65245156cyberpunk was built on low life (ie underclass), existing with ubiquitous high tech.
>>65244378If you have the tech to do all that you can put that on a pair of goggles or fully closed helmets, you can even feed that info to the brain if you still insist on cybernetics, no reason to rip off your working eyes only for them to rip them off you when your service ends
