discuss and post pictures of submachine guns
>>65245308>no Dom machine gun
thoughts on the ARP9? its turkshit. but im starting to like some turk shit. at a 350- 400 dollar price point, i night pick up a couple to lend to family if we ever need to do the needful
>>65245325>forgot pic of steven seagal holding it
>>65245321>>65245325>>65245328This isn't a cartoons thread.This isn't a PCC thread./k/ is a Weapons board. If you want to discuss semiautomatic replica PCCs, start your own separate topic. If you want to discuss cartoons, video games go to an entertainment board
>>65245333a PCC is just a sub machinegun that has yet to spread it's wings
>>65245338If you want to discuss semiautomatic replica PCCs, go start your own separate topic elsewhere on /k/.
MP40 but in 7.62 Tokarev
>>65245340AR-15 but in 7.62x25 Tokarev
>>65245344checked, is that firearm fully automatic? (Doesn't look like it) If not it and (You) do not belong itt
>>65245350this thread is gay, because you are a massive faggot
>>65245354(You) = nogunz and the minimum age to post on this site is 18>'thread is gay'All of the posts in except 1 it are off topic
>>65245358>nogunzpost your submachinegun faggot
>>65245350AR-15 but in 7.92 Kurz
>>65245360Post hand and a single gun (You) own nogunz 9-year-old>>65245362shitpost all the way to 310, I have all month
>>65245362thats a good submachinegun
>>65245367ok unc
>>65245365
These are heavy.
>>65245365>>65245367AR-15 but in 9x18 Makarov
>>65245375>prison walletOff topic
cmmg in 40 s&w
>>65245375>MICBlast from the past! I upgraded to a Vanguard 2 years ago. Still my favorite stow and go for the G26 I carry.
>>65245386Dont shoot your dick, buy a MIC!!!! what do I need to know about the vanguard? this mic is starting to get a little floppy
>>65245390>https://rcsgear.com/product/vanguard-2-standard-kit/Its like a MIC but not made by a guy in his garage and has multiple carry options over just a string (although you can still use the string method). Plus there is little chance you'll crack the Vanguard 2 by inserting the gun wrong unlike the MIC. My MIC cracked by itself even though I always slipped in on correctly so I never looked at it again.
>>65245402I like the detachable clip. sometimes mexican carry is the best for my wardrobe because i can wedge the butt deep under my belt and get away with wearing a wife beater. but most of the time i would prefer to have it supported by my belt
>>65245377I knew they were heavy but when I actually picked one up for the first time I thought 'yeah these are heavy, fuck carrying this around'
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>>65245308I didn't know they made a version that took curved mags. Why bother? >>65245321The Dom can use the MMP-80.
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>>65245483In the 1950s-60s era it was common for NATO / the west nomenclature to refer to then-new assault rifles, in their folding stock or short-barrel variants as 'submachine guns'
>>65245483Back then it was full-sized rifle, machinegun, or submachinegun with no in-between. The STG-44 was originally called the MP-44 (Maschinenpistole-44, Submachinegun-44) when it was first made. The closest AK variant there is to a submachinegun is the Krink, but it's not a submachinegun because it's still chambered in a rifle and not a pistol caliber.
Always really liked these really old styles of SMGs where they had full rifle stocks made of wood.>>65245340Isn't it kinda like a Beretta SMG?They definitely wanted the MP40 form factor, but it's a bit different.>>652454639mm Parabellum has a slight taper, and they may have found that the curved profile mag was more reliable. As an example, the H&K MP5 originally had straight stick mags, the curved mags came later.
>>65245333>>65245339Oh, it's the refinery schizo
>>65245529MP 34 was peak submachine gun machining and manufacture quality
>>65245308I really want in Ar-45 pretty much like poc related with eventually an frt and a can.Tell me how I should do it
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>>65246618(image: dk what happened there)
Anons I got $1000. Is there any submachine gun worth that money, or should I save up for an uzi? They appear to go for 1.5 to 2k
>>65245529wood?
Yes I know it's not really about SMGs but if anyone wants to read an amazing book where they were employed extremely effectively this is well worth your time. Such a good treat.
>>65246794>1.5 to 2kThis thread is about full auto/select fire submachine guns. Are you in the the U.S. or planning to violate the NFA?Functional Uzi machineguns in America sell for around 7 to 10 thousand dollars. (Not sure what they sell for in a few other countries that allow civilian full auto)
>>65245333>>65245339What are you gonna do about it, bitch?
>>65245308So there's a number of WW2 SMGs that were blatantly assembled out of spare plumbing and I affectionately call them pipe guns. Unfortunately, it seems to always cause a ruckus since people seem to think being made cheaply out of available materials automatically makes them bad. Is there any way to salvage my little nickname or is it better to just abandon the term?
>>65246882show us unc
>>65246915As a Brit we know the Sten as 'the plumbers nightmare'. The receiver tubing was genuinely made out of standard size steel pipe with the bolt made to match that internal diameter. The stock was made by every bicycle workshop around. Proper cottage industry in one sense. I'd use the term with pride in a way. Sure they were made out of cheap parts. But we needed a lot of guns very fast. And they did the trick.
I want one of these.
>>65246994metoo
>>65246952>As a Brit we know the Sten as 'the plumbers nightmare'.
>>65245308the XM177 was technically classified as a submachine gun
>>65247205Yes ------------------------- : >>65245487
>>65246794In the U.S, transferable Uzis are about $18000 to $20000+ by this point, but imagine that sample ones would be a lot cheaper, though those are only for SOTs.The cheapest transferable automatic weapons on the registry in the U.S is going to be Reising M50 or M55 guns, and Sten guns, but that's not original intact British or Canadian Sten guns (those will be as expensive as the Uzi), rather those are going to be much later parts kit rebuilds which people put together over the years (up until 1986).You'd be paying a very minimum of $6000 for a transferable rebuilt Sten, but probably a good bit more, probably closer to $10000.On the other hand, an SOT could build a Sten parts kit as a sample for like $100, but you're not an SOT.Reisings can be anywhere from $8000 to $12000, though good magazines for them aren't really widely available.
When it comes to transferable machineguns, assault rifles like M16s and AKs are very highly desired, so those are around $30000 at a base price. Less desired ones like FNCs and AC556s used to be a lot lower, but you're paying quite a lot for those now too, you're probably paying as much as you would for a transferable Uzi for that now.One of the big factors in transferable machinegun prices is the availability and cost of ammunition (and also magazines to a point), and very importantly, if the gun is fun to shoot. 9mm SMGs are very cheap to feed, and VERY fun to shoot, therefore people want them.Another is historical value and cultural impact, so guns that were big part of historical events and conflicts, and have been shown off a lot in movies and games, people will want those too (even if the ammo isn't very cheap).Many 9mm SMGs have historical value and cool value, so that's been adding up with their fun value. Transferable machineguns in .22LR have no historical value or anything, but they are also really fun, and they're the cheapest to feed, so a converted Ruger 10/22 registered as a transferable (or registered trigger pack) is going to be almost as valuable as a transferable M16.Parts kits rebuilt Stens lack some of the original historical value, but one that's been rebuilt proper is still gonna give you the true Sten experience, which gives you a somewhat uncomfortable, but still damn fun 9mm SMG, along with some WW2 cool points.
^^Good points
Does the LAD count as a SMG or is it a ULMG?
>>65245385Based .40 gang>>65245620These are nice but the PM-13 is peak aesthetics. The NSW version is my fav and a joy to shoot.
>>65251490dk, I'd say it's a belt fed submachine gunThere's an MP 34 on tripod upthread
>>65248074That thing has seen some shit.
>>65245377Someone please tell me the appeal of these things. Apart from pretending youre a gangster theyre shit. The weight is only of any great benefit with a select fire model and they just look so buttfucking ugly. That foregrip always looks to me like its hanging on for dear life and getting ready to snap. The rest of it looks like a scaled down 50bmg or somesuch placed into a loose fitting piece of walnut. Are they nice to shoot? Also why does the barrel look like two jews fought over a spring doorstop thinking it was a shekel?
>>65252498The guy intended it to replace all infantry rifles, SMGs, LMGs (which they really didn't have at the time) and make it the standard infantry weapon, that isn't a traditional SMG role. He also designed it with a 150 round belt/drum and a quick swap barrel. He was tasked with making the most firepower possible in something that weighed as much as a Nagant.>All 7.62x25mm SMGs and pistols used until destruction>Penderson device and drop in pistol grip stock converts all Nagants into quasi assault rifles taking PPsH mag with a quick bolt swap allowing the use of 7.62x54 >Crew served and vehicle guns unchanged>7.62x25mm costs 1/3 the resources of a 7.62x54>At infantry ranges (100-150 meters) ballistics don't really matter>WW2, body armor isn't really a thing yet, as long as you hit them it works>The LAD has select fire, they can do individual aimed shots>6000 rounds per Soviet squad standard loadOur timeline was robbed of a future that had LADs as standard Soviet infantry weapons, US .17 HMR belt fed infantry Gast guns and 12 GA flechette firing rotary cannons.
>>65252749Completely crackpot idea.
>>65252787>12 man squads>Platoon is 4 infantry squads plus HQ squad>48x600=28,800 7.62x25mm>6 marksmen with 7.52x54 scoped rifles>14 SMGs with 400x 7.62x25mm>LADs can do semi automatic fireI don't know about you but a company of troops that can throw out almost 35K rounds of 7.62x25mm out of carbine length barrels 'at the moment of contact' sounds like a very unpleasant experience, even in the modern day.
>>65252822Note the 'select fire' option, they could just plink aimed carbine length 7.62x25mm fire at you for a week before reloading. They would be amazing at suppression fire.
>>65252822>>65252847Yes. Crackpot idea.
>>65252749>12 GA flechette firing rotary cannonsWith all-tracer ammo and exoskeletons to lug it around...
>>65252856Your imagination and knowledge of both WW2 and modern infantry conditions alarms me due to you lack of any of those things.>>65252866I was thinking that in this alternate time line that those would be roughly the size of a M2 or KPV. As an alternative a 12 GA Gast gun might be smaller than a M2, perfectly suitable for use on a vehicle or as a support weapon.>Fuck, i didn't really think out what the western response to universal adaptation of the LAD as the USSRs basic infantry weapon would be. Of course it would be multiple projectiles or lots or tiny ones.
>>65245308His design wasn't very convenient but it was quite admirable.
>>65252856Why are you gay?
Is it required to have owned and flown a fighter plane to discuss mil fighter aircraft online?
